12. Urban Planning, Ecology, and Michael Bayliss on Post-Growth Futures

What if the real challenge is not designing a shinier new economy, but learning when to stop? Michael Bayliss, host of the Post Growth Australia podcast, joins Voices of the New Economy to explore what it means to move beyond an economic system that depends on endless expansion on a finite planet. Drawing on years of activism across environmental, post-growth, population, and grassroots community movements, Michael reflects on the philosophical heart of post-growth thinking, why urban planning matters more than many people realise, and what he has learned from years of conversations with thinkers and organisers across the movement. The discussion also touches on intentional living, gardening, music as climate catharsis, and the tension between optimism and collapse in a time when many people can sense that business as usual is no longer viable.Michael Bayliss is an environmental activist, communicator, and host of the Post Growth Australia podcast. Over the past decade he has worked across post-growth, sustainability, and grassroots community movements, including roles with Sustainable Population Australia, urban gardening networks, intentional living projects, and local environmental organising. He is currently Deputy Convenor of the Albany Community Environment Centre and has been a guest presenter on degrowth in Curtin University’s Global Futures and Just Transformations course. Michael’s work brings together ecological limits, urban planning, community resilience, and cultural change, and he also channels environmental themes into music through his Albany-based band, Mobile Zebra.Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet.LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHERA full companion article for this episode is available here.Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedInConnect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedInGet involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]