16: Sit Down and Drive

If I looked at when you came, I was kind of too just on. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening to wherever you are. You were listening to the all talk car podcast. I think it's episode 16.

I've got no co-hosts today with me. He'll be all has gone to feed you. Look for a new trident. Blah.

Ross is an Instagram and a Queensland with his family. I think he's buying VR goggles for his new drone. So co-hosting today with me is Bradford Berry memory from last week with BMW Finance. So he's been promoted to co-hosts.

It's a good evening. G'day. And today's real guest is also a listener. And it's Marcus Aderes from Sydney City Chiropractic.

Hey, boys. Hey, everybody. This topic, are we going to be talking about, it's probably the most important part of a car that no one thinks about. And I think it's the car seat.

What do you look for in a car seat? Your size leather and cloth? I think back to my time, I don't know. They've changed so much.

When you go back to, I got an asset in 1997, you heard about three ways of moving a seat. You're talking about seven series now. And I think they're near enough to 20 different directions that you can play with one plus the bloody ventilation massage needed. You know, what are those sorts of things?

Yeah, what are they? Yeah, absolutely. And I talked about the bench seat of my cousin's valuat. It's a couple of them.

You actually used to be in the seat? That was my biggest criteria. So I think just a bit of fit that you said. And hopefully it's comfortable after five minutes.

Yeah. Right. Anyway, yeah, the old bench seat. Yeah, so he used to hook the turn, sharpen it, place the slide into his arms.

And that's what he used to do to his goals. So there you go. So we've got Michael here. Apparently he knows a lot about backs.

Apparently. I mean, is it something that people should consider? Is there a bad car seat? Or is it more?

I think it's more about the settings, the way that you set it up. And I think the racing car guys have got it's quite on. OK, where they have you pretty much nice and upright. So if you have to extend your arm, your wrist sits on top of the snoover.

OK, that's the perfect sort of distance to be. If you're only sort of further than that, then you're leaning too far back. And over time, you're driving around. It's going to put a lot more pressure on your lower back.

Your head's going to be dropping forward because you still need to see what you're going. And before you know it, you've got to sort of a neck, sort of a lower back. Everything's sore. You come out, wind you in the same car, shift.

There's the pedals too. Because I remember years ago, I did some drive training stuff. And one of the things that they pointed out is if you're sitting too far back and you've got a straight leg when you depress the brake to the floor and you hear something, your leg hit, and then you bug it. So that's so very important to make sure that you've got your foot all the way to the floor and the brake and you've still got a lot of bend left in your leg so you've got something that's going to soak up an impact.

You know, mind driving, that's quite far forward. Relatively upright. And you know, 10 and 2 would be bed elbows. And I was like, have it a while ago.

And it probably does. Look, it's cool to help you. And I'll head back. But it works fine.

Yeah, I know it's the bed elbows too. You can absorb any. Well, for there, it's the turning too with the elbows. And you don't have to take your hand off to basically lock enough that's going to get you out of anything.

You know, if you've got it where you're up the top, you've sort of got to do that shuffle, which slows you down. It's just that 10 and not even until it's at 9 and 3. And just being able to get to that half lock or a bit more than half lock without having to move your hands. So with new cars, I mean a lot of new cars now have got different type of, whether it's push button, with mugs and beams or whether it's knobs and knuckles on the basic cars, like they all got the recline back and backwards and forwards in front of your legs.

Is there a position or is there a control that's more important than anything else like a lumber support? Does that find the lumber support at waste of time? In the cars person? Yeah, OK.

What I find in my car, OK? I've got the Merc. The C43 Couche, the MJ. What I find is you set it, it'll come right up.

But what it does over it, if you're going on a long drive, say an hour to an hour and a half, it just gently deflates on its own. I think which is a good thing, because if you've got something that's constantly pushing into your back for a long period of time, you're just going to get uncomfortable. Because our spines are dynamic, not meant to be sort of just be frozen in one spot. You're spining one of your counters on drive.

I think you're going to have a half now. Yeah, OK. So basically gone down to a junction. So it's a killer in the other part.

But as you've built it, a long drive, on average, I've got two two and a half hours. Well, that's what the advertising is. You may not have to work. It's going to be 45 to an hour.

I think that's the average in the same. You probably feel it all the time to get to work. Yeah, see, it's funny. I think we're on Swoil.

You know, in new cars, I mean, cars that have got the latest technology and adjustments and stuff. So I kind of don't. But the last, I thought it was the last long drive, I did old for a long drive, three hours plus, if someone asked me to trivia. You get to feel it after about that two hour mark and start to go, oh, I'm just going to stretch my back, move around a little bit.

But that's where all that massage stuff comes in. You know, you look at cars in seven series S-Class, you know, but they're not unique with it. But I think the theory behind that is much more that European approach where they have people that used to drive in across continents and go, sorry, across continents and go, whatever. And you can sit there and go, OK, so what's going to keep me awake and alert?

I'm just going to get the blood moving in my back. So I'm sitting down for four hours and I haven't stopped. And I've been doing 200 Ks now for four hours. So I'm pretty wide.

What's going to get me going and moving? The level of adjustments, I think, that blows me away in some place I can cars. You think even something like in three where you've got, you know, the lumbar, the outer bolsters, the bar bolsters, the front of it, the back of the tilt, there's got to be 16 ways in that alone. Do you think the massage function in the books of Beavers are gimmick like the airport massage?

I think it's a bit of a worrying feeling. Do you think anything to stimulate your body? I think in that regard, if anything, it's nice to have something working up in a body, because it interacts with your brain, your proprio, that stuff, you know, elevates it, you know, makes you alert. And that's a very important thing.

I was wondering, like, the last thing you wanted to do is your brain sort of, you know, circulation is getting your body, you know, it's really exercises if you, I mean, everyone's got a seven series or an S class. What I'm doing is, I mean, I'm doing a positive two hours. I think what I do is I've got the crucial problem. And I'm constantly moving my feet up down, back before, you know, like, I'm texting reading the paper.

Well, I suppose you're doing that. The misses get the chance, but, you know, I'll push, I might push you to see back a little bit and just sort of stretch it legs out, bend around a bit, keep it moving. So like as if you're on aeroplanes, basically. It's only all those technologies that the five series of driving at the moment, sort of that sort of adaptive cruise and the lane keeping stuff.

So you put those two things on and you can literally, but you've got 45 seconds, you can just just, you can crack your back and you know, the tickles after you. I just did that recently on the drive to Melbourne, over Christmas. I tell you what, the set's got, and I've got a set, and that's got the distance right after Christmas. And we just passed a full stop start.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we just came out of Gundy Guy and there was a more on the cars on the highway, one guy in the other taking lane doing a hundred, five, so that's the set at 123. He would take five kilometers, that cocks not going to pull you over for doing one Saturday. Not that we promote speeding on these one cars, but it's not a set at 123, because you're going to be doing 180.

And he's not going to push it at 150. So 123, 123. He's doing it at 123. Does anyone know any good solicit?

So what happened was he would get out of the car slowed down to a hundred, as it does automatically. I went to the left lane and the car didn't speed up. The car knew I was in the non-overtaking lane and I told him, well, we're coming back from the summit at City's Audi. And the same, obviously, in the related cars.

It would not have taken the undertaking lane. So I don't know, I don't know. But it's got a Volkswagen or an Audi. I wonder where that's come from.

Because it wouldn't be that accurate. It would have to be something to do with the cameras sensing that you're in the left lane. But then how would that work on a three lane? What is it in the middle lane?

I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. So my mind just goes in the passing motor. It's not going to be accelerated.

All that electronic nanny stuff. It's just going to pass you. And once I take my foot off the accelerator, it all just comes back. Yeah, a little bit text right.

I like it. What about with age? If you're an older driver, you buy multi-vend, don't you? Ross.

Ross. Is it like you do you see high like a multi-vend? I think just observing people. I think the older we get, the more upright we tend to see.

That's just natural. I think it's just a natural. High pants. And more upright.

Your waist gets smaller and wider. Yeah, you don't drive in catching caps. The only beans. Cabbies are in six, four hours a day.

I don't know why as dealers, we don't sell those as an accessory. I think where it does work. Is that, you know, if they're sitting that long, you know, I think the gas was less basically for a ticker. You know, interesting things.

I get a big guessing. I suppose it doesn't stink the seat. He's also back to the old, you know, things of all those caps. Yeah, that's a good situation for him.

You know, a pile of books. And you wonder why you're a bit successful. You know, you've got an extra minute there. But now, I mean, I get a recent drive last year that drove from the Gold Coast to Newcastle without stopping in the Macan.

That was like a lounge where I drove last week from Newcastle sitting in the F3 and I was struggling by two hour markets. Tell me a different seat. Well, I think that's it. You sort of look at these grand series, all these SUVs that are a very, very different style of thing.

I mean, if you try to throw the Macan around a corner at a corner, it's kind of like you're in a thread. You push up against the driver's door, but the injuries designed to give you that support. You know, you have the, I guess, you know, balance of one side of the other. You know, the Macan, good, comfortable, you know, long driving seat fabulous.

And I guess with the other three, you've got to track it. You've got to be on there for like 15, 20, half an hour at the most. It's almost an hour and a half. You know, doing something longer.

They're just designed to give you more support. They're not designed for you to be comfortable. They're designed to hold you. I'm going to ask you guys.

Mate, let me tell you, I missed that VNC. Every V in that I saw back then, the driver's seat. They were the passengers and they were big buckers. It was great for us, big boys, right?

But the one side would always buckle and drop back on an angle. Did the outer side? No, it was the inner side. I was the inner side.

I was the inner side. So if you're not, he's the person that has to do with the side. No, either. Either that or the front, yeah.

The front, yeah. The front, yeah. We always turned right. Who knows?

They always come out and always think, what was my back saw? We're not in the late days when I was at school. My car was an exit. It was a velua.

Not velua, it was the cloth. It was used to get hot. But that was why it's in the late days, not in Australian cars. Very comfortable.

My brother had a V in Calais. The leather wasn't that great in that. He also had a DA feeling. That was a big square thing.

That back seat was like a lane. That was before. That was twice the six. That was one.

But in driving long distances in Australia, you're with high states. The Australian cars are designed. We drive long distances or do we just drive long time because of our speed restrictions? What do you think?

City of the Queensland. 10 hour drive now. What's the equivalent trip in Europe? Is it going from Paris to Munich?

Yeah, so you do Paris to Munich at 250 calories. We're going to City of Brisbane at 110. Right, right. You look there and go, no wonder we all get time for tea.

If you look at our cities, our cities are mega cities. Probably the size of LA. We're just like 20, 15 colours of the coast, 60 colours west and 30 colours each way in all south. Are European cities probably 5, 10 colours in the middle of the market?

And then it's the big connecting roads. Yeah, we commute daily on an urban environment a lot more than Europe. We're our long distance, our towns are far apart. But you're right.

I think our speed limits are way too low. They're not roads again. I'm given the capabilities of cars. They're not just a press that has it.

All the cars. They're all the cars. We're talking about heck of the new key looks. I saw those living on the Earth.

I saw one, I saw one. I saw three during the week. I saw both a hatch and two sedans. They're a good looking bloody car.

They're like, look like, you want to think it's a car. Firstly, but secondly, it made me wonder how many cars do you know were a hatch and a sedan look great? Look great. I remember the Ford Focus hatch I reckon is a great car, but the sedan looked like it had this massive torque But same with an Astra.

You can almost go back to the Golf and the JIT comparison. The JIT comparison was just an electrolyte with the car. No, it was just an LED cause. We're curious.

They've really come to town with it. Apparently there's a GT pack with a 160-150 kilowatt which is almost like a GDI type power. It's a really big one. I can't think of any hatches.

Where are you going through with the S? The Volkswagen car pulled off. I mean, the old Astra was one that was the model car for that. On a TS.

The one that looked like a saw for the TS. They had that really nice looking 2-3. It was a good looking car. The coups for hatch looked good.

So that was all wrong. But the sedan was at different car again. It was a slightly bigger one. It was a bit like the Gera.

It wasn't as big as the Astra. It was a slightly size up. It was the same as the car. And it just loosed lots of proportions.

I mean, in Euro world cost, I guess, the big one. You don't see bends doing too much. Pergios and perchos and all hatches really. And they're designed as much as people get perchos.

How do you actually A3? How do you see the only one where I think the hatch looks like a... Hatches looks like a... I think it's a hatch looks like a hanger.

It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. It's always been the trackiest thing back in 1999.

The first A3 came out. It was that three-door chunky, you know, first thing that wasn't a golf thing is a European hatch. You know, good, accessible car, good price point. But you know, the new one, I think the new...

The A3 range, the RS3s, particularly in the A3s, look great, but the sedan's just... It's all cut off to me at the back. Okay. We've seen that one.

With the C. Yeah, but they're traditionally being sedans. You don't have a C hatch. See?

And I get it. The difference between... Yes. But the CLA is based on the eight class.

And much like... It's like a four series of grandkids. The grandkids. Much like I was about to say the big one.

It's just, I think with Merck and BMW, they're traditional sedan. And Europe, they're traditionally wagonats sedan. But I don't really... You know, I think it's...

It's... I reckon that's one of the saddest things that I find through the German heritage of cars is the step away from Wagans. Make a five series wagon. He's just one of the greatest cars of all time.

Well, you can feel my hurt this week. That's a big W sort of ex-cars in Australia than sedans. Yes, it's a high-selling car for forever. I'm going to say forever, I think it's about the last nine years for BMW.

A white-on-black X5 30DM sport. Because you can see a narrow down... Take something for that. Whereas you flash back and think, you know, 90s and even up until late-1930-2000s.

Five series wagons, three series wagons, high-volume-selling cars, brilliant cars. Five series wagons, as good as the X5 or the GLE in Benz Lane, all those things are in the E-Class wagons. Those things are so nice to drive and own. Like they're fabulous.

You don't have the massive size and scale of these SUVs. You know, you can throw the things through corners. They look great. They can't look very good.

They're really important to be. And the A's Benz wear, because they're the jumpsets at the back. Make the reverse ones. I'm going to see what I'm going to say about it.

Didn't you feel like a rock star about you? I'll see you in that. Like you fight to sit in the boot. Envivo races wear.

It's in the boot. Yeah, that's a two-three-six, right? That's a three-three-six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not a two-three-two-one.

Yes. That was a ten-three-four-four. Twenty-five-four. Twenty-four-four.

And then from perks and minas, gold. From semisies to two-three-two. From semisies, they went to two-three-four. Common-alls.

Because the cash jackpot was more than the price of a common-all. But, yeah, you've got a car, guys. Well, that's why you're on the show. Your car, history.

Oh, there's a few there. There's a few clangers coming from where you had. Oh, my very, very first car was a Daphson Sunny. It was a 1.2-litre, three-speed order.

I remember having all the boys in there. You know, like, here I am, just fresh out of high school, first year uni, all the fellows in. Sorry, another car with a standard bit of the coupe in the sun. Yeah, that's true.

No. I had a vox on, sound system. Oh, that's a shiny up-cap. Staying?

Yes, it did, actually. It was. But I remember trying to get up, I think it was a car straight. And could you?

Yeah. Yeah. You know, boys in the car didn't quite have a way to go for you. No, I was going to go for it.

Please, that's not pushing. Three clutches later. I'm going to go for the top. Yeah, that's three-speed order.

Oh, my god. Yeah. But it was like an interesting so you can't. And then from there, I think I graduated to, I think, was the high-A span.

I've got a least. Yeah. I had a high-A, but that was a good fun. We were going to say good fun, so I should think.

I was like a hotel on wheels. You're not? That thing. That's good.

Did you use it as a hotel? Well, I'm not one of the keys until, you know what I mean? But there was some really cool stickers on the car. I had the train mark, no fetchings.

OK. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Right. And then the other one on the other side of the back was, that laugh could be an oring. Right? Oh.

Yeah. You know. But most of all, you said, no, that's so sleazy. That's it.

But they never had any problems. Yeah, because the stickers are different. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? After that, I had a VN. I think it was the XL. Oh, yes, right.

I heard that you still. I was a cuck-cane on wheels. The gym and I have the 90s on it. The only thing.

The only drive away. And then the aftermarket girls are coming, staying for 500 for the central lock. Then try. If you want to steer you, you want to steer you?

You want to steer you? It wasn't. Stereo. 22,000 dollars later.

You know? What happened? You're home crying with a contract in the shower. What have I done?

I speak. Then there was a VN. VN. This VN.

I was just looking out of the storm. Now, yeah. That's a Y1. I couldn't handle it a year ago to take it to someone else and do an answer.

Right. So, yeah. You still got that? Yeah, that was always fun.

It was always something. I think I modified something on it and it kept cracking the flywheels. Oh, no. It was bizarre.

What happened there? All those blood-toes to go, they saw me coming already in the back end. And then I thought, you know what? Time to get into some prestige girls after that.

Yep. And I thought, what am I going to get? What am I going to get? I'm going to get up and eighties going.

You know what I'm going to get? No, no, no. That's a nice, 80-c. That's how it was.

I was a prestige lady. I remember being impressed by 1984 and I had to get myself an exchange week's worth. Right. Now, did that have the twin tanks on it?

No, that was the same. Right. So the two only had the same right account. Yeah, so that was fine.

So the problem was, every time the way the fuel switched around, the tank, the fuel gate was just done down the hill. So you never knew how much fuel you had to do all that right. Did that always break down? I mean, I've done it the other exchange.

So, no. Look, I'll tell you what, if you had an exchange, you had to love the exchange. It's not a car that you thought, you know what, common sense tells me, you know, by a jamming exchange week 12 because you know they're a good car. Look, I like the style.

I like the interior. It was very comfortable. I can't read. The verticals left.

No, it was flat. JG. JG. It was the straight one.

Straight one. Okay. So that worked. Yeah, that worked.

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Yeah. That worked. That worked. Well, he don't really need 12 cylinders working?

You know, you know, kind of like a Vuitton. It was a heavy Sackler newer than a bad guy. It's like a stick was on that, but I'm not going to say that. No, I'm not going to.

The thing about a period of car though, I genuinely miss, and I love cars, is not that unignous in design anymore. I'm jagged used to be, that was a jagged. No, but if they twist me more, the car was a jagged. And you'd see it and you'd have the tune, but he bubbled once.

But then you'd have like, when you'd slag it up, but then you'd have to say it up here. Nothing looked like that. Nothing else looked like that. You know, Citroen way back in the day with the original C5's and that sort of stuff.

Whereas these days, there's just this design of running towards the middle, I guess a bit like we've seen too much politics here. Everyone's too worried that they can upset someone. So they want everyone to kind of like the cars, but no one to really really love them. You know, there's few manufacturers that I guess have held their course on and pushed probably to stand out when we're 9-11, I mean that car's changed.

You know, five inches since it was born. I mean, Ferrari, you sure out there, and the other bit, that end of the spectrum. But you look at the road stuff. You know, I've been great about it.

People can't love it. But the beams I've been, from a design point, you think about it. You try to get into the mix, you put a bit of elixir in there occasionally, and you can hear all cars on a road that sit there. You know, I often say to clients when they're going through stuff.

All those manufacturers, they're all cars. They all do the same thing. You know, a three series of C-Class that Alexa's in an A4, kind of going to be with the same outcome. You do badge a car shopping centre, and I don't think it all gets the five cars you've got.

I've been thinking about this with Scotty here's ago. There was this great campaign in the early to mid 2000s in the UK where they parked the badge scotter on the high street and the financial district and had, you know, the people out in all the money suits, the big clipboards asking questions and all of that will look back as round go. It's this and that. This must be an even seize, this must be the new whatever.

And you'll get absolutely. I mean, this design case with all of them being done with the Hoffmeister Kink, you know, you'll never get a reputation of that other than Subaru. I think it was the new circuit that I thought it was going back. I thought I'd just look at it and it breaks my heart.

But it's just, I don't know. This is hard as I think it was a bit lost. You know, I want someone to come out and I guess Chris Bangor we've been doing some crazy stuff some years ago. But you know, I want that difference.

I don't know what the texture is like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's these two look in the room. It's like the same series taxi. But I was like, oh, that.

But can I say, if you go back and look at that era of his cars now, in isolation, they are actually beautiful. And I think that the design of them and how they see it, how they flow, you can in hindsight see it. But I think that that whole thing was the start of going, gosh, don't go away from the same. If you look at the model before, you get to the model, you get like the five six, it was ready.

It scared people away. And now they've evolved. Yeah, now they've evolved. And you can see a line.

It's something that I argue that it's the only way too much. He still do see it. I think some of his work in the current cars. But it's just, you know, I want cars to be different.

I want cars to be an expression of personality. I want them to be something that people can do in the fashion day. But it's actually kind of the same. You know, like, you look at that stick that you sit there and get me an eye from him.

That's what I was looking for. Oh, mate, Kalam has designed Jags. He designed something early, I just think it's like, you know, it's like, you've got an age of speed, what a girl in the world is doing today. So Kalam is a pretty, he knows that the design of your cars is making a look good.

But yeah, after the Jags, mate, you're very good. Very good. Very the Jags. Then from the Jags, I bought my first Mercedes.

Okay. Yeah. First Mercedes, I have a desire. So was this the car that was the first, I'll start my business and get set up.

This is my first Mercedes. Did you last chance? Why everything you want now? Because after this, I'm calling the shots.

I've got a baby and there's no way that we're going to be getting out of the back of the Mercedes. I'm just one on 11, I know. I should have done that. And I went from the Mercedes which was 4.3, like, if you injected, you know, it was only a good day when it was running and it was when it was cold, it was painful.

It was like, right. I'm doing 8160. Oh, I'm a original. How boring about that?

You remember the one? I had an 819. I had a big one. I'm talking about it.

Also, the one was who was the most of the pictures. Oh, shit. That was the thing without the classical. Yeah.

I was much fun about having a manual car without a clutch wheel. But I worked for the wife. Yeah. I didn't want to fly that driver.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. Not bad, that sounded like a super upbeat.

But I did drive a Boxster Rest the second year, it's at the 987, the one when your camera came out. And that car took corners at speeds that you weren't allowed to take. It was the most balanced car of a driven Boxster Rest. We were driving through suburban streets taking corners at speeds, I'm thinking no way.

And they just stuck myself in it. It wasn't scary though. They're like a major way better driving than what you were. You'd make me think you were.

The car was factory nice, it's pretty great. But you're doing, because it's got the tyres, it's got the grip. When the closest I can compare it to the 10X5, but it's 23K slower. I'm sure there's quite some in the game.

Boxster, but it's a mustn'tnarrow track though, right? You think it has time and the tyres twice as well? The first thing you're arguing to do is you've got the career-esque wheels. The colour's in the caps, it's very important option.

That's the other important option. That's the other important option. If you don't get those two options, we can enforce whoever's listening, you're crazy. The colour's in the caps, the impossible hit risk.

The impossible armour is you don't need as much. That's the head risk and the colour's in the caps, the very wheels places. You've got a big extra 5mm, very important. Did you take the three stages and put them all in the cup?

Oh, colour's in the cup, what do you do with that? The sports car? No, I think that's the problem. Probably pack it up to 64-0.

Yeah, beautiful. The colour probably used at the very show. Yeah, pretty much what I was saying. Everything's an option.

Oh, you wanted an engine with your Porsche? No, no. I've got a seal K-240. No, I can't.

Yep. Into the Cayman. And obviously, you've seen your cars a little bit of a set. It's a cool car.

It's a cool car. It's a 4-round option. I'll do one of it. I'll take the bike with a seat belt.

It gets a Porsche. It's a Porsche. It's a Porsche. The performance is standard.

Lunchier is optional. Oh, wow. Goodness me. Well, the only manufacturer I reckon that can give you less in a car and charge you twice as much.

When you get an, I love, a 911 is just the ultimate for me, right? When you look at speaking those things up and you get to the high end of town with the GT3s and GT2s and hours and all this other stuff, all of a sudden your manual gearbox is your cost seats. You know how about locks and all that stuff. The cars have them in it.

The right-knock-knock is a 2-round 911. If you can find one. Right? Let's not take a bath.

Yeah, look, I guess all cars do. The trouble is with those 911s is when we see them come through. The deal is hungry for them. They'll pay because they sell and they sell quickly.

You know, when you look at this, that's last year Porsche, have you got something new in the 11s with the last year? It's right on the road. 911, so? Yeah.

You're in? Yeah. 511 cars. Oh, fuck, that was pretty close.

You were pretty close. There was a new registration for 911. So you think in Australia how small that is, but how much of an like on that car isn't? They sold a thousand keyest thingers last year.

That's all that's done away. So put that in comparison. Sure. You know, I thought that would take over the void of a car order as well.

Yeah, but it takes time. So you've been looking at mass market stuff because you need to get the government contracts into it and then get the high-tech contracts into it. You know, that's where a lot of those big registrations come from and just, you know, up this Telstra, these guys driving around in Camry's all of that. They're a huge part of that market segment.

And it takes time to prove it. But the big problem we've got in pricing is we've got an invoice for a Mustang today with a supercharger from Tickford. And that was a 99,000 car. And nine of it and 10 of it was luxury car tax and G-S-T.

Yes. 20% of the car was not a good thing. So I did different maths today for someone from a work out how I get a finance contract directly for them. And we worked out that, you know, when you look at structuring no-voted leases particularly, you can't have any shortfall and you trade so you can't have any minor security.

So quite often you have to do in place of getting a discount on the new car. We have to pay more money for the trade. But what that simply means is there's more tax money. So if I go and lift up any pricing above 75 grand on the car and lift it up by 10 grand, I have to charge $14,800.

So we have the same profit or loss as it either. Because $100 is 5% cent, $10. $33. It's not a...

It's not a... But it's a C&G. We need to get a fine of cash as it takes a nice look. Look at that.

My GSE is coming in, we've always done F AT 2 and F AT 3. We would be absolutely cooking the mouth. On the flipside of tax though, we can drop the whole cost of a call of police and a call of fire, and we have a pretty reasonable standard for car. We are a big country, we're a small population, and we've been passionate about it.

We're pretty good in a lot of things. We had a current history for a small country, which is going to be the shame that we were doing a lot of times. We don't know why we punch them out that way. Yeah, Michael, thank you for coming in.

That was interesting. We claim that definitely health insurance to the other, please. It would be something. If you're an item, can you sign it for it for sure?

I'm sure the portion is still one with it. Quite a bit. Well, you've lost it, but you did, so tell us. Every option on the right.

It's 1,800 plus electric ethics. So, thank you for coming in. That was pretty interesting. I'm glad you're here.

Thank you for helping out this time. Any time, because I don't know if it was all last week. Was he the single one? It's one of the things that we got to take a look at.

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