164. Release, Oversee, Repeat: The New Leadership Model

In this episode of What the Prophets Say, Emma Stark is joined by Jonah Wilson and Matt Johnson for a hilarious, honest, and weighty end-of-year conversation that turns sharply into a prophetic call: the Church has a leadership problem, and it’s rooted in a lack of journeying with people.Together they unpack what it means to follow Jesus and lead others at the same time. From Peter’s messy, Spirit-led learning curve to modern leaders who raise people up too quickly without real parenting and accountability, this episode challenges listeners to move from past-to-present thinking into present-to-future leadership.You’ll hear why:Leadership requires releasing others, not gathering crowds“bigger buildings” can be the wrong dreamSome endings must be expedited to step into new mantlesHealthy ministry needs boundaries (“good fences make good neighbours”)Every leader needs wells, not constant drainsWe all need people beside us, and someone to pull upIf you’ve been faithful in the pew, the Bible study, or the background, consider this your push: it’s time to lead something, journey with someone, and build a company of leaders for what’s ahead.Download the PowerTV app for exclusive resources that go with the podcast: powertv.app.