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EPISODE · May 25, 2026 · 57 MIN

#172- "Steve Jobs in Exile" with Geoffrey Cain

from The Kuderna Podcast · host Bryan Kuderna

Geoffrey Cain is an award-winning American journalist and author, writing about geopolitics, national security, and technology. His work has been featured in The Economist, Time, Wired, and The Wall Street Journal. He is a regular commentator on Bloomberg TV, BBC, CNN, and NPR. Cain served as an advisor to the United States House Foreign Affairs Committee, a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations, was a former senior fellow for advanced critical emerging technologies at Foundation for American Innovation and was a visiting senior fellow at the GeoTech Center at the Atlantic Council. His books include Samsung Rising, The Perfect Police State, and most recently-- Steve Jobs in Exile. Learn more at https://geoffreycain.net/. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Guest speakers and their firms are not affiliated with or endorsed by PAS or Guardian. This material contains the current opinions of the speakers but not necessarily those of PAS, Guardian or its subsidiaries and such opinions are subject to change without notice. None of the organizations mentioned in this podcast have any affiliation with Guardian or PAS. Bryan Kuderna is a Registered Representative and Financial Advisor of Park Avenue Securities LLC (PAS). OSJ: 50 Tice Blvd. Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 (973)244-4420. Securities products and advisory services offered through PAS, member FINRA, SIPC. Financial Representative of The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America® (Guardian), New York, NY. PAS is a wholly owned subsidiary of Guardian. Kuderna Financial Team is not an affiliate or subsidiary of PAS or Guardian. CA Insurance License #OK04194    #8948580.1 exp. 5/28  

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