and good racing game. Like, SEO was obviously super space fighting, super fucking space flying around, and Mario's Super Mario Kart was, again, a good racing game is more family friendly. You're like, well, you got all your Mario Kart, so you're selling off the back of Mario, you got your Mario, you're actually, so people looking at that and thinking, oh, that's a Mario game, that's gonna be good. But it wasn't any bit, it wasn't a game, so you might think they're just fucking selling off the back of Mario Kart, and they all shit.
And they could have made the Mario Kart game, and they could have been white, because they had Mario in their title, they were a salt, so they didn't really need to put anything to it, but they did. And what you got was a fucking beautiful game. They gave it a buy, it was topped it, it's nearly about a buy in terms of, but. It isn't true, if you know what you're doing, straight away you get it, you might have been drifting as well as you want to do it, you first get it, but when's you're playing?
Come on, I'll go. Yeah, I'll go. I'll go. I'll go.
I'll go. As people in Exitale. Yeah, this is, I mean, even for me, it's a line kind of more of a Mario Kart game in the Metro Arena. Comparing these two, this is Apple's Orange, it's Apple's Touring, literally the probably the best racing game on the Super Nintendo, and probably one of the best racing games of its time, and for a long time, I've been to a fucking Mario Kart 64 game, probably.
Yeah, I remember they were like, even I had the game for you, no, it was 64, sorry, and we're playing like, Mario Kart 64, I'd still go back to your SNES Mario Kart, and just go back and play that one. Yeah, it's something about it. It's just so good, so good. Let's start breaking some of the little kind of sections down there, let's go, we'll go straight into the gameplay.
Mario Kart gameplay, I've been right at the top. Yeah, I mean, it's getting to give one because you're a two player, so you can play it, split screen, level, little, split screen. A little bit of a battle mode sort of thing going on as well. Oh, the battle mode of the balloon, yeah, that's really good.
Obviously, Metroid, that's the whole experience. You're getting sucked into that, well for me, you're sucked into that world, you're on Z, you're trying to dodge the fucking Metroid, it's probably the fucking one since year. It was more experience, one's a power game, you're having more of a soul experience. I've been in battle, I've been in battle in 12 or 12, I've been in battle in that fucking world.
What I love about Super Metroid is the platformer. You don't really fall off shit and die, really. Yeah, yeah, it's not the one hit, it's not the Mario going down to darkness. It's not that such situation.
You can get lost and go to the fucking world. I need to go there. You've got to go back and see it. I really like that, because that keeps it a bit more longevity, but not for the sake of it.
It's like, no, you need to try and go through this door. You've got to get out of this door. You've got to do it the right order, if you will. You've got to say back to rap and that sort of thing, which always feels like a safer game, because you've got time, there's no time with it.
Quickly, you've got to go down, when you're in a level, you're not going to marry it at all. You've got time to explore. You can look at some crannings, the fine and forms and fucking seek a weapon. I mean, as soon as you get in a weapon, and it opens up the whole another fucking area in a map, it's just like, it's just like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, it's just, every time you get something and then something clicks, I can fucking shoot a little rich on the ceiling with my laser guns.
Yeah, you get to sprint, then you can sprint across the, it's a smashy rock bridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, run through walls and stuff. Yeah, so for me, the gameplay is just a lot of just so full depth from area. Yeah, obviously.
I mean, this is what we're saying to me, but you can't have depth, can it? Yeah, I mean, we said the same thing when we did in Zelda, in Zelda, Zelda, at Marnaburz, it's actually a beautiful fucking racing game, but again, they're just so comparatively different. But that was just again, if you learn the land, that's only fucking battle, pull out of the hat completely random. So you are going to get a racing game versus the fucking Metro with being in.
So the original Metro with being in. It's the way it goes. It is, it's just the way it goes. Do you want to have a hat there?
We didn't know, but I would just say that gameplay just has to go to the Metro. Just the variety of different actions and kind of like, just ways, like even ways to navigate a level. Yeah, literally going, you weren't just as well in one way. You were going through the door, and stuff, and away with a fucking shot.
You've been in the news. You've got the tunnel, you know, shrink down your ball, exactly, you've got the ball, all of that sort of stuff. So for me, gameplay has to go, it just has to go, you know, drawing you into nature. But remember the music, this is a difficult one, because obviously Metro is great, kind of soundtrack, but it is more of a soundtrack than Mario's Belwiz.
Yeah, it's just Belwiz. Yeah, I mean, Barry Karts give you banging tunes to go around and race against anyway. Metro is, it's not really your music, it's more, again, that atmospheric thing. It's immersing you in the ball, and you're like, what am I?
Yeah. So that's it. Again, you know, you're under water, you know, when you're in fucking Brinsdono, things on fire, when you're going to bits, and like when you're actually into fucking tunnel levels, it's just that, it's beautiful fucking background music. It just pulls you into the fucking world that's the thing, but like I said, Mario can't bang off the banger away!
And even with sound effects, both kind of have their strong points and doors, but road skit, now, you know? Or just the red-held shell hitting, You know, all these little things, there's so many good sounds in both of the games. It's not fair to be fair. I've never been there's any great enjoy you'd get in somewhere like Red Shell just before they got caught in the line and the best.
Just fucking taking the berries. It's actually kind of like me better with the things that you do with Green Shell me. Oh yeah. Like lined up and everything's got a bit of a gamble.
There's no better feeling to be like, fuck yes. Yeah. I'm going to drive and pass him. I don't want to.
Take that then. Yeah. I got the fight. Yeah.
I'm getting banned from the alphabet. Yeah. For me that's a tough one. Yeah.
I'm leaning closer to Mary just for how typical the game is. It's easier to break, like, I know really going to score Mary and compare to Mary. It's just not the same thing. It's not, you know, to end with any other game on this list, Metroid so like, saw, soundtrack is so pretty.
I've been out there with Janet. The metal you've got to score as you've got the new level of music level. Not really. So like you say, each level has got a banger from Mary out there.
I'd probably lean towards Mary on it. Just because it's fun sounding the game sort of game. But not taking anything away from someone that's been on Megamix's. We've been on Good Tunes on the Super Metroid.
We'll move over to graphics, though, mate. Graphics or Metroid? Just the way they've done fucking Samus. Just the ship.
Just when that ship comes down out of the start and you're sort of thing. They can do this. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Beautiful. The lady's mother brain, the little pirate jumping off that run left and right on the screen and the ship. And again, the graphics in Mary is good.
But I think it could have gone further with it. I'm not saying it's basic, but there is the locomotive car. But it didn't need to go further. And it was kind of very basic graphics.
But you're still fucking racing around and that's what it needed. I mean, you've got either sideways or you've got either side or forward. I think they'd have used Kirby's Dream Course graphics on Maricai, but it would have been worse. Yeah, it would have f***ed the background out of those swear-free-grantling.
It would have been really horrible. Yeah, they tried to f*** in 3DFI everybody instead of just having it like a f***ing nice flapping f***ing image. It wouldn't have been shit. It would have been.
Yeah, I mean, fair play. But it does mean the graphics are nice. Yeah, they just don't have the details. You can't get them.
You haven't got armour plates and all these different little things. It's the shit itself. It's the one in it. It just looks fucking epic.
But then we've met him with thin-apples graphics and they had fucking faces that and that would have been the shit. So he's like, well, what works for one then, what works for the other? Why is it in a difficult process? Why is it in the way that the graphics is wise?
I'd give that to the next one. Yeah, so would I. So it would be, you know, obviously Maricai would have been a specialist. But it's a second on the list.
I think the second on the list. Yeah. Yeah, second to Maria. Yeah.
Which was just fucking like 24 billion. I was like, what everyone else went twice? It's something like that. So, super, let's call you 1.42 million.
So, you know, fair sales. Yeah, fair sales. But compared to Supermaricat 8.76. Yeah, it's different.
So, you know, this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion at the end of this episode. But that's what we're able to do. So, yeah, sales, obviously that goes through a Supermaricat. The stageability, that's a real, obviously, that's your own personal opinion there really.
Mine's going more to Maricai. Yeah, I'd say most people are. You're just probably a harder position being. It's difficult because again, in fact, I don't think I said before, again, I'll go back to the fucking S.O.
versus Maricai situation where you play in like Maricai what you're making. So, you're having a good time with your mates and everyone's there and it's a lot of party games. Whereas that, just doing that mettle, that's as a fucking kid, that's an experience. Like, I couldn't recreate that.
Playing that for the first time and having that. I'm never going to be able to recreate that for you and just how in all I was of this fucking, again, getting no problems, getting the guns, finding this time. We're realizing I want you to do that for the second section. Yeah.
I'm just having that. Every time, that first time I discovered this or the first time I discovered that. I mean, you haven't got to have a Maricai. You've just got to have a fucking Korean.
I'm raising my friends. I'm sure all this shit. Lovely stuff. But I just think, if I could go back in time and replay one game for the first time ever, I would do that.
I would be actually, I'd have to love the other one. That's strong words. Yeah, that's heavy. Heavy words.
I did it. I played it now. I was all played back in the day, when you were at first. I was trying to, you're a boring mettle.
Jesus Christ. Thank you. No, it's not even now. You're not a mettle.
You're not a mettle. I got to the point is where we're mettle. I was actually where I could complete it in under three hours or whatever it was. So I'd come open school and just fucking speed run it before tea.
Just because it was there and I could basically an animal getting the space and fuck off. Just fucking, I love getting his fucking top team. Yeah, it is top tier. Let's speak about Super Mario Kart a little bit before.
It's a great memory of it. Yes, that's loads of the fact that you get 50cc, you've got to get your 100cc, 150cc, the star car from my sort of shit. Super game was structurally had the reward system in nicely. Yeah, it led you up to me.
The gold mario head, silver mario head bronze or whatever. But it meant that if you weren't like an expert, you could still race the track. You still had the fucking mushroom car, you still had the fucking 20cc. Just see what you see.
It doesn't matter, you're enjoying yourself. You've done 50cc, 100cc to IP, you've done 50cc to IP, 60cc to IP. 60cc is more enjoyable than 150cc. Yeah, it's fucking 10cc.
Yeah, it's wild. Then once you get to the fucking 150cc, you're doing a rainbow road. That fucking, I mean, actually not the main thing, the point is that you can't fuck up. You can't fuck up.
One more room on there. Yeah, that's why. Back of day I was more of a Yoshi player on the, oh yeah. Super, Super America.
When I went to 64, I was about to get me. I knew you had to be the big boys. You passed it. But I wasn't bad.
I was more of a Yoshi or Cooper. I was Cooper. You always know what I'm talking about. So we speak about this.
We must be public touch on this before. Do you think it's bang out of order? The way that kinkuba got fucking sharp is. Oh, we got a big, big, big, big, big.
It's bang out of order. Where are we? We got a contract for Mario Kart 6th and 4th and Cooper. Obviously they just laid it away.
Slent. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
When you think about that, you think there's an inside conspiracy theory there. A little bit of inside. Yeah, I mean it's some terrible hatred. I mean I'm bringing it to Mario coming in.
I think that Mario was going to be bigger than he was. I was saying that he got a fucking mini-games game. And they're going to be a fuck about them. Yeah.
They're not real games. But every day Cooper and Cooper got nothing. No, what's he promoting? He probably bowed out and he was like, don't come June.
Don't come June. He probably gave it to family. No, don't keep coming in 64, won't you? Yeah.
What was he doing? No, it was Donkey Kong. Ty, Ty wearing Donkey Kong. Yeah, so Donkey Kong obviously had games to promote.
Bowser just got to work for Mario. He just got to die a big thing. He lost. I mean anyone who's in the Mario game got to back him up and marry him.
They brought a shit to promote. Was Bowser in Super Mario Kart? Yeah. It was King Cooper.
I think he was in King. Once he went past the fucking SNES. I don't know what I'm saying in the SNES. Yeah.
Was he King Cooper or was he a Bowser? I think he was in. I think he was a Bowser. He was in between.
Oh yeah. I think he was in between. So after Super Mario. He was in between.
He was in between. He was in between Super Mario. He was in between. He was in between Super Mario.
He was in between Super Mario. I was supposed to be a three as well. I think about being Bowser. Three, I think.
I think it's Bowser's Bowser's Bowser layer. So it must be from. So literally in the first Super Mario he was King Cooper. And Boi had only got the three in Bowser.
So something happened between those two. Well, when Mario was in that dream world. He was in that property. Again, a friend of the battle days.
Something happened between Bowser and King. I'm sure he discussed it before. We have spoken about it before. But it's.
So you must have been Bowser in the game in Mario Kart? That's why you said you said you should have a game in the game. Because you could get a little people through the game. You should have been in the maricades of Storming.
That's what I'm saying. You would have been in the pre-view with Shell and everything. You would have been in the game. I'm going to fucking do a little game.
I'm going to make one up. You can take your Shell and kick it. And get different colors. They get different powers.
And you can serve for it. Well, on the Green Shell it's pretty sweet. That's probably the best thing about the whole game. There's like three levels of something happening there.
They could do that on the way. Whatever. The lava one. Rock's.
You could do jumps. I think on the first level where you throw the bomb off the top of the mountain. There was a point you could do that there as well. I think it's straight away.
Yeah, it was a point. Yeah, that was pretty sweet. Yeah, that was really nice. Yeah.
But that's the story. That's the story. That's the story. Any other fond memories of Super Mario Kart?
Any little things you remember about any courses, any characters that you got? I think the main ones are like when you were doing the battles. I mean, that's the main sort of thing. You've seen to the one.
You do a couple of races, but the enable ones are doing the fucking battles. Just blowing those fucking balloons off the beach. I'm a little bit of a power. I think it is, I can't, I'd say it's still because you can't fucking fault Mario Kart.
Because you know, again, if you play that and we do make some that, it's going to be a good fucking game. And obviously you're passing the fucking winner's stage on. So, you're not going to win the stage on. Like when you're losing, you're fucking living like your pissed shit.
But that's all you're going to get. You get to go again, man. Yeah, everyone's going to lose, man. You're going to be one winner.
Yeah. Yeah. Super Mario Kart is one of the games for me that I was an achievement. You do that as well.
Like when I did the time drive with me. I really got to work, you know, go get home, go sit and all that sort of stuff. Like I was really, really into that fucking corner. Same with F0.
You know, I did refine once I had a game that I felt kind of in tune with. Like America and I've driven in fucking actually G. I did like refining how you could play it. Yeah.
One of those, I'm sure, I meant to it's a little bit like that, but a little bit different because you've got freedom of just having to go and fuck at once. Yeah. You can do, but with America, you have to, you're driving around the track as fast as we can. We've kind of gone through these, mate.
I think, you know, you're winning this. I think it's a controversial one. Yeah, it's a controversial one. Yeah, it's a controversial one.
But I think it's game. As gamers go, I think a lot of gamers would understand that maybe it's a really good platform again. That's, you know, top of food chain platform is really, they've got a lot of weight going. I mean, we're pretty much with, you know, going into the quarter of final, semi final situation.
And a lot of these are, I mean, even Street Fighter in a sense, it's still kind of like a, you know, it's in a limited, so it's, you know, there's this kind of like, obviously a shit-lady platform is but not all of them are. I don't know what I would say about Metroid though is, you could, if you play that again now, you can still sort of get that same feeling. You know, you're going back in, and you've been to it. But to get the same feeling of what Mario Kart used to be when you were 12, I ain't got my mate still, I was 12, half a box in, I saw you, never left on the side, you'll be laughing.
But before you get around Rob Dao's and playing Mario Kart, but it's not as, like playing that as fucking driving, people are on your mates house around your house and just fucking getting all the snacks, getting told up in your sister's speech and that sort of shit. It's just, you can't recreate the Mario Kart feeling that was really, but to a degree you can sort of go back and play Metroid or whatever, and what it's like. Yeah, because you're more focused in, rather than at various parties, you're in it now, but yeah, I get it. So I think we're both in agreement, I'll hand over to you to declare the winner of this round.
Yeah, like I said, it's going to be controversial for some, but I am putting Super Metroid in Brown to the crew to the next round, which does mean that Super Metroid is going up against Super rules and ghosts. No, I can't. It's versus Donkey Kong. So we have got Metroid versus Donkey Kong, so again, it's going to be some unhappy people, whatever we fucking can't, I'd say people aren't going to get me happy now.
We're going to get a lot of people fucking saying we made the wrong decision or this, you know, that's the way that someone's got to win, mate. Someone's got to lose. That's it. So we've got kind of the court finals lined up now, mate.
So I run through the numbers, which Street Fighter 2 Turbo versus Super Castlevania 4, kind of all that. That's going in Yoshi's Island versus the Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, Big Time Matcher. That is a really kind of, yeah, breaks down there. Super Metroid versus Donkey Kong Country.
Good that we've got two, my performance up against each other. I like that. And the last one here, mate, in the original group of Death, the bottom of Side B's, Secret Mario vs Super Mario World, to me is a big... It's a very difficult thing.
You're going to find out the results, is Turbo Sports Radio, it's on Spotify, SoundCloud, have podcast. Unless they kick a sock spotfire, using the theme tune thing. SoundCloud and have podcast. Yeah, we run it as long as we can.
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