It's all laid out like a museum as well. No, that's not gonna be able to back it. Off to a FedEx. What's that pad?
No, I'd have been. And I've had that. It's got the rubber fob for your phone. Have you ever used it?
No. Mate, it's so good on a smartphone. Just touch. Just touch.
If you use that on your phone, you just see a normal thing, won't you? Yeah, I'll probably hit. One of the ones I've got, I just touch it. You've got to have a pen with it.
We push it better, push it on it, because... Don't you hit it with your finger? You have to force it. Yeah, well that's too hard.
You know, what in my sense, it's a couple of underbikes for the proper smartphone. The stylist things, yeah. And you're the pen. I had one and you'd plug it in and charge it as well.
But then what happens is if you hit an angle, the rubber knee starts to buckle. Yeah, that's not. But anyway, that's technology for you. Well, we've done noise levels, we've done temperature levels.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening to the old talk. Car podcast live from Vegas hosted by Peter Otis. Joining me tonight, we've done a full interview, full house with the HTT team. Holden Dillard team, special vehicles.
If you want. Champion by name, Champion by name, so we've got the boss, Peter, how you going mate? Going really well mate. We've got Rob here as well, part of the HTT team.
Hello mate. And we've got Emma as well. Hi. How's Cima?
Yeah, look how you... you're supposed to say how's the car show? The car show is Cima, I think. That's what it is.
If you talk about it for the last three months, I'm going, I'm going, well I'm bloody here. You make bigger and better than ever. Yeah, look, it's 11 years since I was here, Peter. Actually, been here before, yeah, been here, 11 years ago.
What do you think? Yeah, look, it's... Look, like it was on steroids, is this you? Yeah, we're in America.
Everything's on steroids. Like, you go ahead and front and you look for a ladder to check, look in the window of any of those off-roaders. So there's trucks? Even if it's coming towards you, you won't get it on open.
Yeah, exactly. You're sure they're not all from down Texas, mate? They're big and big and big and Texas. Hey, I had to go to the Texas, Cima.
Yeah, go ahead. Well, they're attracted to the truck, they show here. They'd be, they'd be messy, wouldn't they? That'd be great.
No, no, no, no. I don't think he's got all excited. You'll see, interesting though, we'll talk to some guys on the stand, we know, on one of the stands here. They thought it was probably turned more into car shows than it is for display for product.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got, there's a lot of product there. And you've got to really hunt it down if you're looking for something specific. And just for a listen, I don't know, Cima's split up in four or five different halls.
And each hall, it's not just slack bang wherever you get. There's that section for tyres, section for mags, section for go-fast parts, a section for panel-beating materials, wraps and things like that. So you get allocated as a full drive section, which is quite big accessories and things like that. So there is some kind of order to the chaos.
And a lot of the big displays will have a, like the mags have a lot of cars, and not a lot of the many customer cars, all those Ferraris and rollers and things like that. So there are a few of the cars, but I mean, there's still a bit of product there. Oh, look, I thought it was product-wise, I thought it was a lot of it. Yeah.
Rob took us down to probably where you judge some of the newer stuff. The new products, yeah. And it was very interesting to see that. And one of the things I want to say is that we haven't got to the pass in the other hall, you know, would be on the nation.
Well, that's the apex, that runs in conjunction. That's more, yeah, there's not many cars in there, but there's smaller booths with more nichey, like wiring for a power steering, like a truck. I think I should take a one or two that tomorrow. It's worth it.
Yeah, it's worth it. I'm not a fan of the show. But I thought it was only fairly well. But the last time I was here, they were advertising auto-matanic, I think.
Auto-matanic, no, in Shanghai. In Shanghai? So I decided maybe that's where I need to go for the future of HDT, like with our body kits and everything. I felt was coming from China that was in SEMA anyway.
Yeah. So we did a couple of those as well, but this is way better. Way better as in over there. It was all very industrious.
I think it was over 72 acres, and I think we walked and walked. Was it a lot bigger than SEMA? Yeah, in area. But you've got to remember, that's been set up over there, Peter, to take the buyers for building trucks and cars.
Like if you wanted to buy parts for cars, you had to buy them by the thousands, and they had all that on display, like the headlights, tail lights. And here you can buy a singleie off these guys, but over there you had to buy a minimum order of a thousand of this. Yeah, but if you're, yes, if you're totally different to this. So if you bring a back to H, if you're going to do a run of 100 kits for a particular model, you probably order a bulk of 150 for spare parts as well.
So China will probably be the place for you to do that deal. We're SEMA probably giving you more ideas of what's out there. Exactly. And if you want to customize a particular car, like if you're looking for a turbocharger or supercharger or an individual set of wheels, this is probably the place that can't be in the company.
But you can still block by here. They were asking us, do you want to be our Australian rep and whichever company you went up to, they're looking, they recognize Australia as a pretty big market. We don't have the volume, but we've got the purchasing power and the love of cars in Australia. They do recognize Australia as a market for the Americans, and they do hassle you to become an Australian merchant or trade partner with them.
So I gave the awards and I had the other night and the listeners would hear some of the interviews and some of them approached me to go partnership with them to bring their products to Australia. So it's a bit more willing and dealing here than the actual product. We're trying to, they don't care whether they want to go partnership with you, that's not your money and I want to send you a container or something. That's what I found.
So what was your goal this year at C-MOP with HCT? What were you looking for in particular? I was just getting a taste. No, not really.
I just thought I'd like to come and see what weather market has got to. I think it's outstepped us because there's a lot of stuff there that doesn't appeal to our customers or for the cars that we built with the, well, we're trying to do the retro of the HD at the 80s. So, and I knew that. But I just wanted to see where the market was going.
It was a bit of a reward for him and Rob did the work pretty hard in HDTT to keep it going live. And I just sort of be great too. Bring it along and have a wander around so they can see what's in the market as well other than what we do. You might see this sort of stuff in Australia.
This is on steroids. You've got any lift kits for any common rules or anything like that? We're trying to get them closer to the ground. There's one more round of them.
They put it right on the ground now. It's just about blue mannequin. If 45% of the businesses are going to see this, let's explain what HDTT is. I mean, they don't want to pop in there about what your company is.
What's the brand? It's synonymous in Australia. It's a brand that started really from a need of a niche market of cars. So that Peter Brock and the Malberg old deal at the time could go racing.
So a group of dealers got together and got Peter Brock in and got into start building cars that they could sell. And it just snowballed from there and started modifying the original holding version and continued on through the 80s. It's something much like we discussed. It's something like Shelby gave me 40 in the 60s and 70s.
Peter Brock was synonymous with holding. He was like, hold on, God, child. He was like, well, pre-seven. He was almost royalty.
He would assist in the development of the vehicle too. He was handling the engine more power. And then the kit, some designers probably helped out with it. Yeah, the storm was done late by Peter Brock himself.
A lot of it was done earlier by the holding designers. But the majority was Peter Brock in there. Which is really unlikely. Not really unlikely.
It was really unlikely. Yeah. The Australian carol surely. And there was stuff like I remember the VH, the SS had the things on the bonnet or the front.
And there was some really way out stuff there that wasn't your typical bot on ACR. Or was that company that used to do the kits in the 80s with the fact that it was a square? It was an ACR. It was USC.
USC. That's what it was called. And there's also GS motor bodies doing the same thing. And then we made the car just look square.
They just boxed them up. They just boxed them up. They were like, they're taking them back to the 70s. With the HDT's had purpose.
The spoilers. Very sleek. And they had a purpose to them. And then obviously come close to the end of the 80s into the early 90s.
That sort of relationship broke up. And a lot of us know what happened with Peter Brock and then what HSP came in. That's more a Holden factory type. They saw the success of H.
The majority owned by Holden. If only one already owned by Tom Walkenshaw. And then continued on through the 90s. However, H.T.
continues. H.T. continued. A lot of people don't know that.
And it's amazing the amount of people that say, oh I haven't seen H.T. in years. And we even had an ex-pack. Ozzy come up to us and say, wow H.T.T.
And he was blown away. And then he started on the story. He was a brother and walked three cars. And it just passed away and still got them.
And it just really emoteed. It evokes on the motion. He had the brain itself. No.
And their cars, many sit on the road. They really stand out. There's nothing else like it from the 80s. Because Ford had their GTs in the 70s.
And the Ford got one car. Yeah. Ford Australian built one car. They were live on the other face three.
And that's all they've ever built. Is what most people always remember them for. Because they got, the gumptons I tried to scare them and out, law them in the early 70s. And then they just did stick-a-packs really.
The cobras and things like that. They were in the 80s. Ford even dropped the V8. And then Brock was there just caining the racetrack as well as the market.
And almost had a monopoly of high performance domestic products. And they weren't. They were sort of maybe limited numbers. I mean you could have ordered one.
But they weren't really pushed like age is V. Were doing in the. No they weren't limited numbers. And usually sold before they got to the dealership.
Yeah. Okay. Red to see a car at the dealership. And if it was, the dealership would actually pay for it.
Got them in their lot and sold it. That's how popular those cars were back in the 80s. And I think, I don't know whether the people would tell the story behind. So when you guys are sort of running the company now, you had the VE, the kids that came out about 10 years ago.
That was all done by a big champion. Yeah. People were the one that wanted to master the monitor. And brought back the Aero Wheel and the Star Wheel.
And like that, they're getting some money. They're getting some money. They're getting some traction in the market and they're going up in value. The last of the VE, the VE, the VE, the RIO was a what would you call it?
The retro. The retro. The VE came and the white was the white one as well. The white one.
And those two inch wheels. We did 20 inch stars. And we also did the 19 inch era. Which is a recreation of the original six.
And 15 inch era that came out in the VE came out in the vehicles. And I think that the industry sort of went wow. I think that put you back on the map. I mean people, the hardcore people knew actually too was still around.
But I think when those cars got released, they were well done. They were what inspired you. What made you get the VE? Well I guess the way the story would run there Pete is that when I had the opportunity to purchase HDT, I was at two mines, but I was shut down completely and put it in the museum with the street rock history.
Because I believed that there was too much stuff being pirated around the country. And it was getting way out of hand. Like the gear knobs, if you had to have a replacement gear knobs, a VC or a VH. All you could buy was the same gear knobs.
Which were totally different gear knobs. And I just thought well it's any part you want. They're just so far from the originals that maybe it's better this brand. It's shut down.
And after I purchased it, I actually saw a drawing of a VE Commodore with the body kit on it. And I thought wow, we need to recreate this. So we built the first one up at the Rock Museum. We built the first kit on a VE Commodore and went from there.
The VE was the perfect car to do it on to do a retro one. Because it puffed out, look of it, never get made. The square, the boot, the fiberglass kit on it on the wheel. It was a square looking car.
And the wheel made it too. And that size wheel. And we started with a grill. The leather box grill was up.
That's the thing that's HDT. And then the body kit on the wing on the back. And we had some little spats on the back to cover it out. And the colour.
Yeah. I mean, they were the signature. The colour and the scoops and the boot. I mean, that's what you had to do.
And once you got the wheels that size, it sort of made it feel like that. We tried to build our wheel in Australia by performance wheels. And I spent a lot of money. I spent $110,000 on the mold before we even got one wheel out of it.
And the same with the old show. I thought, hey, these things will take off. So we had a lot of trouble with it. Whereas we couldn't keep running with them.
And we went offshore and we've gone up the china and got our wheels made now. And not that good a job that we don't get many back. Whereas before 10 out of every 30 was struggling to be. Then the wheel company in Adelaide started not returning calls.
And not returning. So the quality wasn't there. Well, to give you an example, we would get an arrow wheel. And people would buy them.
We'd box it. They'd come and box it and sent to the customer. They would get it. And there's all the drill swaths and everything in it.
And still in the box. And some of it's in the powder coating. And the colours were different on them and everything. So when we chose to go up there, the company we used originally, we're doing all the wheels for Ford and Chev.
And everywhere we still remember walking in their front office, it's a big glass floor. And all these rims that they've made all around the world. So how'd you get in touch? What's your history?
What's your background? Like, were you in love with the brand? Did you believe you had a collection of them? Were you close with a Brock family?
How did you do it? Well, I was a HDT fan. A very old group, a fan. I've got to say, I was.
The Maroon one. Yeah, the Maroon one. I thought when I first saw that in the window of a dealership, I said, wow, this thing is. This is the car I need.
And I was at the time I was a road construction contractor. And I moved from Pendleton, New South Wales up to Queensland to do a job. And ended up out west out in Mount Isa on a road construction job. And I remember clearly actually it was a wet day and I couldn't work.
So I've gone downtown and there's this beautiful group, hey, sitting in the window and walked around and around it. And looked at it and gone inside. And Conndall might have let me have a sit in it and even got to the fires where I got a drive over. It was pretty cool, actually.
Al mate, he said, look, I haven't got any money. Oh, you did those ones? Yeah, I said, no, you're not Greek. I'm to the young fella, you know, I said, look, I won't be able to buy it.
I'll do it a bit of a battle at the moment with those moving gear and everything like that. And I'm giving a chance we get a drive over it. And he said only if I tell the boss to be on a bike. Fair enough.
So, and he said I'd like to have a drive over it. So, I was a brand-smaker. I was a brand-smaker. I wish I could remember the number of it.
But anyway, the boss sort of must have thought that I was good for it. So, they come with a tri-plate of the young fella and he drives it out of town. And he said, well, we have to this big power station and he's driven it into town and pulled it up. And he said, right, you can have a drive.
And it's a big long road. I bet it was. So, this front gate of this power station, I've got him like, absolutely full longest boreal beer. Like, he's brand new.
Al mates in the past year, so he'd start to get a bit squished. We got to have the front gate. Just chucked it into big slide. Like, I did booted this thing, brand new.
Like, stupid really. Anyway, fish tailed everything. Got back to where he left me in it. And he's freaking out.
Like, all you can see is his job just last before his eyes. If you break your board. Oh, yeah, yeah. I just thought it.
Anyway, he gets out, pulls a rag out of some room. He's trying to get the wipe it all under the wheel. It's the back of the eye to let it down well. We take it back.
And years and years later, outside, open the Brock experience. He got in touch with us and he said, I'm the young fella. Oh, you've got a fella. I've got a lot of that.
So I said, well, you caused all this. I mean, so you remember it. Yeah, you remember it as well. It was really funny.
So you fell in love with it. And then when all the control. Yeah, well, what happened there? I moved back towards the coast with a job a couple of years later.
and put my money and I thought, I've got an affordable high speed I'll go base and there was one ever times in Sydney. And I was still living in Backwater and Central Queensland. And I found one in the car magazine. It fell down.
Salvador. She over there and drove pretty hard and fast for the upper years. In a good need look. Yeah, that was great.
Like a really good car. I think the number two five, four. Two five. Oh my God.
Hey. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this is the first one. You're going to be able to start off with a lot of things that have been done.
That's pretty cool. Not a lot of good things. Not a lot of great. the Gen 1 of the Gen 1 combos here.
Yeah, that was the key. And it looked good, and it got it right. It ended up at about 45,000 kilometres on at the time I sold it. I sold it to one of my sons, mates, working backward.
He traded on Nissan deal with Macai, it's that deal for a while. And that guy contacted us at the moment, because he put it up for sale, and that guy from Guipur, went to Macai and looked at it. Alex. And he said it had a bit of rust in it.
So sitting around up there, he thought it. And it's still only had about an extra four or five thousand kilometres on it. But I got, I sold it for 13 grand. Yeah.
And you don't see any of them. Yeah, you've got to be a seven or eight to try to try to. I don't know if it was a ten-eight when they came out. They were a lot of the road when they first came out, and then you don't see them anymore.
Yeah. They're still to this day, I think, a beautiful car. They're my preference. But everyone knows the VK, the Blue Meanie, that's synonymous with the brand.
But that VL was just like really, the next level. But yeah, by that stage, the brand was established. And then, so had to end up meeting the CEO at the boss. Well, look, it was, I was a, I was a, bathist 2006, a month after Peter had passed away.
Yeah. And the owner of HTT's in, the Panichi brothers, when I walked up to me and asked me if I'd like to buy it. OK. So by that stage, they knew who you were.
Like you, you know, they said you'd buy who I was. Obviously, you'd have had a number of them. Because I had a collection of them. And so the day by in the early 90s, it was like, I'll rob Canadian, so then.
Yeah, they bought off the caraffe. They actually bought the assets. They went broke. Yeah.
The land was doing a deal to buy it from the caraffe. We bought off the caraffe. OK. And each strung with the land on and after they went past and bought the assets off the liquidators and brought the business to Sydney.
Yes. They started up again in their premises, which they had for 13 years. And then when you've come along, Pete, it's now sort of at that level. And it's now under your sort of.
You're like, yeah. Yeah. Look, it had no, when I bought it, a couple of my people tried to talk me out of it like, like your work counts. And when they looked at the numbers and, yeah.
Are we blaming family? We're going to go down the table. No, no, no. Certainly not.
Because I know my wife's talking to me out of a lot of things. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No family involved.
And it was more of my financial people that I'd said, you know, like, because I was busy mining at the time. And I got them to look at it and everything. And I think on the books it was making $90,000 a year. So you don't need the tax money number.
So you're back in this morning. So really? Oh, wow. Big, big machines.
Yeah. That's why you're facing up when I said track the show. You're facing it up. Like, you know.
I've always been attracted to, like, along with what I was carrying. Have you stood next to those? Big motherfucker, like, yeah, the Tonka truck things. You have a big toy.
I'm bored. You stand next to the tiger. You kind of have reached the screw up. I've like to check the pressure.
That was a smallest truck. That was a smallest one. Fuck me. Now, massive.
The other one's to check the tire pressure you made. You need to carry a kicker. No, it's the gun. To unscrew the big rubber thing.
In relation to what I'd bought, one of those scissor lifts, to do the air cleaners. Because you're just going to get up the air cleaners with big trucks. Exactly. And how many stories is the cabin?
How high are you? I think so. I was trucked. Like, I ran a fleet of 200 ton trucks.
Yeah. Fairly high. Like, now they've all got the fold up levers up the front and things like that. To get up and down.
It's easy to get up and down. But, yeah, you'd probably like stepping on to the... Ten meters? Second floor.
I'd like to go into the first... Second floor. Is this the thing on the balcony in the second story? Yeah, but it's going through.
How much? You used to move. How much dirt in the earth? How many buckets and so forth?
I don't know. You feel what you'd go through? Just give the listeners an idea. Yeah.
So 200 ton truck meets 200 tons in the back? 200 ton in the back. So, how much do you do you have? So, how much do you have in the back?
So, how much do you have in the back? So, how much do you have in the truck? Way without the ton of the back? So, 100?
100 ton plus ton of tons. Yep. So, you're moving 300 tons? Yep.
Is the cabin like a normal truck? You got steering wheel on it. Yeah, you've got a lot of small cabin in the earlier trucks. Yeah.
You got a little seek for the passenger if you're training or you're learning to drive it or whatever. They're eight speed automating. You just flick them up. What engines are they?
The caterpillars I was running over. They were the V16 cats. Like 1600 horses. Yeah.
600 horses. Yeah. So, they were just purely... Good.
Diesel would talk. Yep. And I had fleet of electric trucks as well. Not Tesla's.
Yeah. I mean... How far back were we talking about? We're talking back in 2000.
So, yeah, diesel. I had a fleet of diesel. I had a fleet of diesel. I had a fleet of diesel.
I had a diesel electric. I had a hydro. No, just got a big old motor on the back like generating 240-volt. And it's like electric power.
And then in the wheels where you normally have planter trees. Yeah. And a diff. You have no diff.
It's really funny on a big electric truck on the back of the diff. There's a door. So, you open the door. So, just pick it up.
You get all that on your off in the diff. Yeah. And then you can look into the wheel motors on this side for the electric brushes. Yeah.
And how would they charge up from the like an engine on board? Just like a big train. Yeah. A diesel electric train.
Identical. Big generator on the back of the engine. Haring the electricity. And how do you get all the wheel motors?
How much of these trucks cost? Oh, back then a 240 ton electric truck would have been close to 4 million. Shit. And the tyres aren't cheap, so who those tyres are?
The other the test mate. Each and how much where do you get out of them? Sometimes you could do it in two hours. You can blow them all the way there.
What is the operator? They have a big shaft, the tyres gone. And there's a ton of granders gone. Yeah, gone.
But how much is the ton of tons of the back? What's that worth? Each time you find a dropper load. When you press that button and you lift it.
And if you don't know it's a 4 million. And that's an hour and a day. Unfortunately to the contractor, not as much as the owner. Because if these things are costing 4 million.
I'm thinking that I'm not saying it's comparing it to a taxi industry. A taxi would cost you 40 grand at times. It's a ton of people like Todd and Vags. Yeah.
Well, I was burning a B double a diesel every day. Seven days a week. And most of the rain had caught it. Yeah.
Two days a year we'd shut down Christmas day and box and day. Every other day is a normal bag to our brothers. So I ran an even time roster. So five on five off.
So you've got four crews. Two away from the site for five days. And two of the night shift and day shift around in the camp. So you know the trucks didn't sub yet to the mines.
No, no, we did double contract. So you had the whole thing. Push the tree over, move to the top so it'll go to coal, go to coal and put it into the wash plane. Once I tipped it into the wash plane it was into my contract.
You make it so easy. You're poised. Some days it was easy. Yeah.
But I never got paid for holding the ground like cubic majors. So the more you card it out, the more money you make. Yeah. And then is there a push?
I don't know. We're all getting environmentally friendly back then. Do you refill the whole? What happens once you finish?
It's done. You start on a shallow skull and you work down the dip. So every time you take that big block out and the coal's gone, you strip the top dirt off till it gets too hard. Then you drill it.
Then you blow it. So that's a throw blast. So what it does it, the waste has been loaded up. It doesn't throw the top dirt.
It throws the bottom dirt above the coal. It's clean out like that. Top dirt drops. So then you go in and start cutting it out.
So you probably throw in maybe on a good blast. 10, 15, 20% maybe. And then all the other dirt is taken to the back of it. And as it goes low as that where you see the ramps, the roads.
You see the trucks going in the pits. So it's like a big rectangle or square. And then they create another level of road and just go down and down and down. Just go down and down and down.
On a 10% grade. Yeah. Okay. By the time I finished up in Coppa Bella, we were 100 meters to the coal.
10 meters to the coal. Then 10 meters to the coal. So they go down 100 meters to the foreign the coal. 100 meters to get to the coal.
And then 10 meters to the coal. Was it worth it? Obviously they would have inspected the latest. Yeah.
So that's how they cull. They culled up 200, 300,000 tons. But you're moving all these dirty before you get to the good stuff. Yeah.
So this is coming out of the cost of setting up, I'm assuming. That's how you build the factory. You're digging a hole to get to the stuff that you're going to sell. Yeah.
Well that's, because in my own home, that's all cost. Set up for a year to the profit. Before you can make any money, you've got to pay me to move all that dirt off the top. Yeah.
But you've already done your surveying. You know, we've already done your surveying. Yeah. They know the quality of it.
They've already bought it. They drill a hole down and then they know how much it's going to cost it. Set up into a dollar. Comment by digging out 100 meters.
Absolutely. And that vein usually, if you're evicted, it's yeah, it's a key cause it's seen as it keeps going across. Yeah. And then they go underground.
And they put a long wall miner in and mine it all left underneath. That's the end of the day from contractors like me. You went by yourself. I was small compared to the big mines.
But the mine now, we were moving five, six million ton of coal. It's a pretty big mine. But to the likes of BMA and some of the big re-out mines, that's not a lot. Well listen, you were down.
You might have heard of a downy or the... Yeah, although a little bit riding in the... All the stuff that's been going on. I just heard Michelle Landry's other day, a politician from your Poon.
She's in charge of that area there. She said that moving 100 million ton of gas is in charge. And that's keeping local companies working in. Oh, wow, yeah.
Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, but you know, if you tell me to tell me to tell your V on now, they want to stop it. They're trying to stop coming.
I can't charge you. I test this from the car. Oh, can't we? Well, I mean, Tesla drivers, right?
What are you going to do when they stop the car? For our listen, I'm getting pointed out. Even though I had a Ford today, I was like, well, God, we have to get in there. He got me in the Ford today and it's yes.
Everyone's very happy. It's only one on four terms. It's just kind of like a video. I'm like, what?
It's not like a broken foot. I didn't sound like a pretty stick, but it wasn't a force. It didn't sound like a force. It's not like the ones I owned.
So, you know, they didn't sound okay. Yeah, we did a live drive. It's depending on when we uploaded the episode I took, we'd be in the Ford. And like, you didn't want to get in at first.
He was just kidding and screaming. But we've got him in there. There's no holdings. He said, hey, I did.
At same time, we did see our Pontiac G8, which is the engine. Yeah, that's a big engine. Yeah, yeah. So it's a, yeah.
You know what? Yeah. So we had the traction control. Yeah.
And also, we saw with the Pontiac G8, there was a sort of an arrow. They're given that away. There was some competition, some apprentices built that up. So when we went out and watched the Tesla versus the Corvette today, in the other time, it was a car they got it.
Really? And because Tesla stopped way too short and then they'd go. I think they were saying that. But they were pretty quick.
Yeah, they saw the time of the time of the time. I was going to get out that end of the ship. I thought it was Corvette 1 and a noise. Yeah.
But that Tesla was quick. Yeah. If it was the same as last year, there was some, there's a lot of ones. He's out.
He's a few booths. We've interviewed a few. Yeah, that was interesting actually. Yeah.
But you know, like you talk about it a peek back home now, everybody goes like, yeah, I'm waiting on the same. I'm waiting on the same. I'm always going to go on the same. It's just a, yeah, it's been here so far away.
Yeah. It is a hike to get. Yeah. Yeah.
And I mean, it's not cheap. It's not a, it's not a, it's not a, it's not a, it's not like a summer that's. But I used to go to the Sun, I used to go to the top of the rock. The, the, the night guy in the, the shampoo guy was there and there's some sticker.
Guy in this and I'm looking at this looking at the shit going, the registration desk at Seema is bigger than this, right. But I tell, I tell him. Sorry. I thought he was joking.
And they're looking at me like, Yeah, you're funny for you. Ha ha ha ha. And it showed Rob the registration desk. Okay.
It's bigger than the the summer that you seen. He's like a never saw. He wasn't like a true, true, true, but not disrespect was something else with either. I thought it was just a different level of fun.
It's, it's, it's, it's no Seema. But it's a few meetings to some of that sort. So what's your role at DayHDT? Like the T for you.
I'm trying to control Pete, I suppose. So at least then, right in the ideas. Okay, so you're interrupting by Pete on the phone and doing your role. Day to day, just looking, you know, controlling it.
So there's ideas everywhere. There's ideas everywhere. Pete's not an ears man and I have to fill it down. Right in the end or make it work.
Yeah, yeah, essentially. So I'm guessing you've organised this symmetry. So basically, there was an idea that got floated. I actually think it's going to seem like 2023.