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#197 SNES TT: Secret of Mana Vs. Super Mario World

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VS. Battle Event: The Super Nintendo Entertainment System* Turbo Tournament. Who will be crowned as the best game on the SNES mini. In the quarter final round of the Super Nintendo - Turbo Tournament, Super Mario World takes on Secret of Mana. Who will come out victorious and go through to the semi finals of the SNES TT? Listen now to find out.

VS. Battle Event: The Super Nintendo Entertainment System* Turbo Tournament. Who will be crowned as the best game on the SNES mini. In the quarter final round of the Super Nintendo - Turbo Tournament, Super Mario World takes on Secret of Mana. Who will come out victorious and go through to the semi finals of the SNES TT? Listen now to find out.

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The last quarter final match up of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System Mini Turbo Tournament. This is it, last quarter final is... sequel to Marna, again personal favourite, love it, love it to bits, versus Super Mario World, the fucking daddy of the fucking system where he was there for the beginning. He's been there since the star mate, he was a fucking original OG, born in the fucking very beginning, he'd been there all the way mate, so he's a legend.

He's a legend in his own lifetime mate. So yeah, two big massive games. Percy for me, I love it, I fucking had to say, it's a good time to both of them. Complete again, two completely different styles of gameplay, but two fucking...

in their own fucking feels, fucking hour like winners within it. So far, side games. Yeah, right, right, right, side games. In their own sector, if you're going to break things down into like a some sort of RPG, I don't know exactly where Super Mario would fall.

If you put a bit of rawr with Russian RPG, it's right, top. It's fucking top, top's here. Right, it's top, as a platformer goes, I don't even get a bit of platformer then, if you've got a little plumber running around with his hands out. He just fucking invented so much, he didn't even fucking would took it in a whiff and move it, but he was just the stuff that he fucking invented in that.

Sliding on his ass to kill turtles mate. Back to your back, which is what I've needed to do. He's fucking swim, he can fly. He can turn it like inflate himself like a balloon.

And our good friend Yoshio, his first introduction to our good friend Yoshio sadly, if you were listening to the last episode, he did get knocked out. But he put up a fucking get over fight, no? A great battle mate, and something I wasn't expecting, but the egg spoke. You know what they're saying, it's the egg speaks.

It's... it's... it's... it's...

it's... it's... it's... it's...

Yoke-un. The egg speaks is yoke-un. Yeah. So, and actually you can't...

Shut up. No one says that. You've literally just invented that. Now, that's a bit quite an old saying actually.

Do you do research? Yeah, do your own research mate. Yeah, so we... I suppose we best need to run.

Do you know these are legitimate games? They do deserve the classic little round-field formula. Gameplay. I think straight away, I'd have to hold men's up, even if I'd want to see what mine do in this one, gameplay has to get a Mario.

Yes. Like we're talking about, you know, with the reason why I like Street Fighter, probably the reason why you like Metroid is how quickly something happens when it's in your hands. There's no latency, it's just you're there, it's ready to go. And Mario was betting everyone for that.

Yeah, that first level. It's straight away, you've got something coming for you. Jump on it. Jump on it said.

Hit them blocks, you're going to get some of that a bit. Things are happening straight away. Stuff's happening. There's a fucking giant fucking bullet piece.

You're straight away. And you can refine the way you do jump on someone's head mate. You can plop on his head, but also if you jump at the right time, then you propel into the area even more. There's layers of Mario.

So you can obviously play it when you're four years old and just do what you do about you get 35 mate and you're holding down wide the whole time. You've got to speed round it. You've got to try and speed round it. You don't try and do anything fancy.

You just say I'll pass. I can get down. If I die, I die. Obviously I've got a safe state.

It's fine. Just keep pressing. Keep pressing. My speed rounder.

My fucking eye. I don't want to do that little spin jump and make me explain. I love that. I love it.

He can spin jump onto spiky bad guys and bumps and shot. That doesn't get it mate. Ghosts. Yeah he bounced off of them then.

Yeah. Bump, bump. But yeah, gameplay. All in all, stick around and tight.

Really tight. We're talking about efficiency of your fingers. Just when you're playing a video game, the whole purpose of it, the game is just there. It's done.

It's almost perfect. Just the ease of it. I think it's the absolute ease of like again, it's the end before. You give that your fucking nanner.

You give that your fucking little brother. Thanks, Jugg, just press jump on that. Just press jump on his head. Just jump on his head.

Just jump on that. I don't want to jump on his head. I don't want to burn him. Just jump on that nanner.

Just open that. Jump on that. Just open that. Just run into him.

Just don't touch him. Unless jumping on him. So yeah, I mean, it's great. What's up?

What's up? Yeah, then he's fucking one for him. I thought you said don't run. He's a quick start.

No, no, no. Yeah, just a simple presence that anyone could fucking pick up really any. No long tutorials or nothing. No.

No, you don't need a walk through. It's just like, you'll figure it out. Yeah, you know what you're like, press that button something's happening. Then you figure out the game.

Press one of those buttons on that controller and you're a fucking figure the game out. Don't be. I love how he looks up though. Don't you?

I love it. I don't know, Chet. Well, I'm on the platform at the Sky Levels. Like, don't do that one.

Yeah. Oh, wait. What I'm just writing, there's nothing to do, man. I'm just waiting on that bit.

Work, you know, that nice little bit of timber on the face. Just writing there. Oh, I know, yeah. I'll just be doing looking up with the beat.

Just trying to take myself. But it works. It works. It works.

You're not squatting. It's good. Unless you've got a cape. Ah, it's not.

You're squat with the capes. Blow it, exactly. Yeah. But looking up is nice.

Try it. Try it. No, no, no, no. Just press.

Just press. Just press. Just press. Make a look at it.

It's nice. It's a little good. A little bit of good. A little bit of good.

It's not Mario losing his glasses in N64. Bumping into the wall. Get him to the go. It's a bit ice.

Great. If you haven't done it, just do a Google Mario's glasses. N64. You won't find anything.

But it is there. Ah, it's brilliant. You can look for days. You can keep that joke going for so long.

So we're still laughing. I used to do it over the moment. Into smack that wall. Good wall of smackers.

You've got to hide the drop down. Obviously you're losing glasses. And then you could call all the way out the mo. Look at those glasses.

That's your glasses. Call it in the water. It's good. It's good.

Different game. Different game. Coming soon. Um, Super Nintendo 64.

Super. Tore of a month. Egg time. Timon 64.

Music. Music. Um, so you've got mine that has some belt with me. Yeah.

If we're going on the top charts. Yeah. Yeah, Mario's. I mean, he's got some good tunes in there.

He's got some good tunes in there. I think any of them are like, maybe you can grind it though. I'm going to say none of them are like top, top tier. Maybe they're all fours out of five.

But pretty much all of them are decent. Yeah, I'd open it. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. Bad. Bad. Bad.

Bad. I want to get down there. Get down there. Maybe tunes outside of the levels are better than inside the levels on it.

Yeah, I mean, they're world's or actually world tunes. Yeah, you might be right. You might be right. My mind is the banggers.

Oh, great tunes. Yeah, really good tunes. Do you want to think of them? We're going to talk to them.

Yeah, but they're out of the deal. They're out of the deal. Yeah, they're out of the deal. Yeah, they're out of the deal.

They always polish their stuff. They start clinkety pongos here. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's your favorite one?

Matango. Yeah. I can't do, you know, I can't. I can't do Matango.

I can't do I start doing something else. Lost it. Let's get Matango. Let's get Matango.

You know you want it, ladies and gentlemen. You haven't done it for any of the other ones but we'll do it for you. I like Matango. We'll talk over it.

Matango. The Matango. Great tune. Yeah, going to say that, I mean, the only job we've like mine a though is you are playing it a lot.

I mean, the songs are good but you are listening to these songs. How is that? When you charge an enemy in your magic cup, whatever hotel you're in, whatever city you're in, it can be great after a while when you're just fucking half an hour. When you're lost.

Oh yeah, if you were lost. Oh fuck sake. Shut this. Someone shut those fucking mushrooms up.

Shut the fuck up. You can try to think I've been up and down my family. You've five times now. I don't know where I am.

Yeah. Where do you go? I've found out what a little lion I've found out. I think it's right now.

Oh, are you just fucking flying? I go, what the fuck? We're just enjoying it. We're just enjoying it.

But up there. That family's always nice and fun and out of family. But if you like you say, if you don't remember where the person said you need to head here to you. Because it's that space one.

What's the space one? Not the man of fortress. The one before we worry about it. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the bed now. Come on. I think I've had the bed now.

Well, working up something to heal. Heal, heal, heal, heal. Right. Come back to it.

Well, I'm just going to get that tune out. It's just talking about that. Ready to go. Go.

No, no, no. Good channel, thanks. I think I see. Yeah.

Cool. Shit. Anybells. But this isn't in a level.

Yeah, it's the outside. That's the genius, right? You make the outside of the level sound better than inside the level. Then you're happy to be outside the level.

This is jumping about. But then we go inside the level. The tune doesn't have to be that good, because you're playing that game. You're doing something.

Yeah. This is a good game. It's not doing a lot, but I love it. Oh yeah.

No, no, no, no. It's not doing a lot. Yeah. It's not doing a lot.

It's just a bank card, really. I don't know what they do differently. It's a bank card. No, no, no.

It's just a bank card. No. It's just a bank card. It's just a beat.

Back to start. Yeah. That's a good chance of me doing a bit. That's a cave, isn't it?

You should go down as a step and have one little fucking great blue turtle just coming up. Oh, there's a buzzy beat on my knee. That's a good call. Yeah, a little buzzy beat.

We'll just walk up and down. You've gone over him. And a little fucking yellow bird. Or green bird.

You've got to be able to take it. You lose your kite. The one thing I didn't like about Super Mario World, I was talking about was using a kite. The fact that you've got those stored ones.

Yeah. But if you get hit, when you've got kite, you get hit. You don't go without a kite. You'll have to catch the mushroom that's locked in there.

You'll go small. There's a little escape or does he lose everything? No. He loses everything.

There's something weird with it. It's not... I don't think you just lose his kite. Like if you had a fire flower in there and he got hit and you lost your kite, that fire flower would all manly drop how, wouldn't it?

Yes. And you can't... You could miss it. Yeah, you could miss it.

That was irritating. Like if you had not only if he was like an underwater level or something, you're hit by something. You're always... There's only one way the screen's moving.

No, you're always getting that. Yeah, you're always getting it. That is irritating. It's an automatic job.

No. But it shouldn't automatically give you a minute. Well, just give me a minute. I've just been it for a fucking form.

I mean, oh yeah, I was being, you know, a bit risky there. I shouldn't have gone for it when I was impatient. I wanted to get over him and he caught me up there. But it will.

Don't forget, if you hit once and you lose your kite, it will drop a mushroom. You just grab a mushroom and just go back in the fucking box again. Right. Right.

Okay. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure about that dropping tape.

No, it shouldn't be automatic. That's sure. That's sure mushroom up there. Yeah, he's able to choose when he's he's dropping.

He shouldn't just be like, oh, he's been hitting out. Well, yeah, he's going to be fighting. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine.

I don't want toinvest fucking my tits up with his fucking soul. With fucking nothing. Brass knuckles. You better be, you up.

You're a shitt. I'm going to do a fucking music. I'm going to do a fucking cricket. How do you fucking like it?

Yeah. It's a music we didn't really answer the question hard. Hard to kind of really give it to one very different games. I think you probably have to give it to Mary for just for the.

Yeah. Well, it's a fucking, yeah. You know, I do love this even worse, personally. You love the Seagull Man's personally, I think the Seagull Man's tune is better probably, but like, there's a lot of good to just soundtrack of Mario.

Every bit of it is pretty polished. I do like the tunes in the Seagull Man's name. I'm swearing at all the Seagull Man's name now. It's called a score.

It is a score because again, he's got a score for that. But they're not supposed to be a tune. That sounds a tune to a good tune. What you go with the music?

I'm going to go Mario, I think. You swung with the half-hours there. Yeah, let's put Mario in the music then. So he's winning already.

Graphics. That's a tough one. But Mario's graphics are quite good. And Mario was out.

I don't know if Mario's graphics have got that much. Because that was only almost Mario. Because Mario was the first fucking game on it. Or one of the only doctors.

The graphics are pretty fucking solid. I don't think Mario's bringing a lot to the table on top of what Mario had already done. No, it's not. It's a good game.

But the graphics aren't selling one. I guess it's the whole fucking... But if you're dropping Gnomes... Strike, what I'm talking about?

The Rock Slide. The Rock Slide. And it had the little bit of the transparency and the little break on his head. I didn't have any of that shit.

I didn't have anything. I didn't have the zing zing zing. I didn't have un-dings that will drop on him and go over it. That's a little bit better graphics than Mario.

Mario didn't need it. But I'd say... Well, I might just have a side of the game. The mushrooms are better in Mario.

I'll give you that. Right. So for that reason, we'll give it to Mario. Just sales.

No talk. I mean, they did, but I think they both did pretty well. I think Mario actually did. Yeah, Mario's surprisingly well.

But what we thought it would have done. So Secret of Mana is going to be 1.83. Which is still pretty good, mate. You need a 2 million.

Yeah, it's still solid. Super Mario World 20.61 million. Yeah. Yeah.

They're saying that I think it's always sold much. Like, Mana, like 60 quid. And that was like... Before we do like 20 years ago, 25 years ago.

Yeah, okay. Good 15, 20 or something like that. Yeah. We'd ask you if money back.

Yeah, it's a way of a yes. I mean, but yes, people were still probably buying 150 quid these days. 150 sweet, mate. But saying that, I think I brought mine before we cost my money.

Cost me nothing. Yeah. Because my fucking mum probably 50 quid. Yeah, we've been.

Yeah, we've been 50 quid. Yeah. So think about... It's like 50 quid for game now, innit?

Yeah. Like it's 50 quid, but you're thinking fucking bad for 50 quid for game. But like buying a fucking SNES game, fucking 30 years ago, 40 years ago, wherever, 50 quid, that's mental innit. Like that is fucking ridiculous.

You spread yourself for a fucking week on that. Oh, I reckon. Mate, that probably a mum's worth of fucking food back then. Yeah, no, no, you're spending a tenner.

Every time you go into a shop, I spend £14. Yeah, no, let's just walk in there. Every time I'm definitely losing about £14 quid. Yeah, that's easy.

It just adds up. You can't get out there. I'll bet you get some milk. I said milk, of course, yeah.

£14 quid, literally £14 quid, that's cost me fucking milk. Yeah, so say all the C mario's up, but literally it's a tough one because, I mean, Mario is missing the nostalgia though, right? I know it's a good man, I want a nostalgia, and we love it. But Mario, like, without Mario, are you a game about Mario?

Yeah, I mean, like a game about Mario, everybody's playing Mario game innit. Everybody's played Mario, probably on the SNES. And everyone's played some sort of Mario game. Well, how many Mario games have you played or owned to make?

Because it's going to be a lot. Fuck yeah, I mean, it's obviously every Mario on a NES. Every Mario on a NES. All stars, yeah.

64, Mario 64. No, Galaxy, you played it on me. Oh yeah, Galaxy. And everyone's done showing.

It's at the water. Yeah, I never had that one either. I played a demo of it in a shot, so when it first came out. Oh yeah.

It was cars like this. It was fucking... You just had to clean shit, didn't you? Yeah, it's brain.

It's brain shot off and then Luigi was going round with two, but after it was running. Luigi mentioned. Oh yeah. Fuck you, though.

Yeah, so that we played it. But yeah, so it's way better if I can play a million other fucking Mario games. So what I'm getting at is Mario's been there thinking things. So, I think Mario games are using fucking good times, don't it?

Mario, I mean, you play Mario on your own. Mario's a fucking lovely one when you get the three people together and you've got a fucking three of you having a fucking laugh and just fucking kicking kickballs and balls in the face. But it's tedious when one of you is a girl and you've just got all the romantic and everyone else is just sat there going to bed waking up. What should you do?

Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. Where's Mario? It's a banger. I mean, you're stuck in control around.

You ain't fucking... You ain't co-oping that shit until you go to the wee one of everyone. Yeah, but you don't need anyone from Mario, mate. You don't need anyone.

What's a beautiful person? What's a beautiful person? I'm with him. He's my boy.

I don't need anyone else. I am literally harnessing what's confusing. He's confusing. He's a fucking good time to have a bad with Mario.

He's just... What is he giving you, mate? Is he giving you more? It's definitely giving you more.

He's giving you a lot of things, a lot of patience, perseverance, and worship. But Mario's giving you the same sort of sprinkler of that. He's giving you more, and he's never letting me down. Like, a bit of Sonic, like, Mario?

Let's put it together. Yeah, obviously. You don't sell it in it. Yeah, it worked.

My mum bought it. Like, if you're making a Christmas in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mario and Sonic... I'm sure we've got it for Christmas. It's fucking Mario. It's fucking Mario.

It's... Oh, yeah. So, Mario... So, Mario...

So, really, I don't think we can't... It has to go to... It has to go to... It has to go to...

It has to go to Mario, we're talking gameplay, sales, and the stageability. Music's quite a questionable... Yeah. Yeah, I think everyone knew...

The... You know, the man... Super... Superman...

Superman... The Superman, Rio, he was gonna go through. I mean, if Mario had gone up against anyone else, I'd think it would have been a different story, but it's just... Like, if Mario had gone against Yoshi's Island, again, he'd probably look at that, Mario had gone up against...

Or... Or... Or... Or...

Or... Or... It's a superhero version of that. It's a more in-depth version of the same game, where it's up against the ultimate platformer.

And platforming is... That is... I know there's a lot of platformers on it, but not all platformers, but... The inner platformer, I think, is the highest-grading in the...

Oh yeah. Like, that's the top tier you can be. And then it can be like sub-categories or platforms, but if you're a true, time-based, you know, running platformer, that is the ultimate game. Because you've got to refine that shit.

You've really got to kind of hone your skills, so... And you can hone your skills, because you're playing with that. Lovely. Don't worry, I'm gonna eat.

Exactly. Don't worry about it. Don't bless it. So yeah, declaring it, then it is...

Declaring it. No, we're going to eat it. No, we're going to eat it. It's Mario World.

You've won, mate, you've got food to next round, so you will be up against... It's Elden, I'm gonna eat Link to the Past. Link vs. Mario.

Link vs. Mario. That's what we can run down the other side of the company, so that's Street Fighter. Street Fighter vs.

Metroid, Super Metroid. And Mario vs. Link. Why not?

Who's going through the fucking Megafine? Megafine or? Yeah. So we'll find what's up next.

We'll see you on the next one. God bless.

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