2017-036-Adam Shostack talks about threat modeling, and how to do it properly

Direct Link:  http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-036-Adam_Shostack-threat_modeling.mp3 Adam Shostack has been a fixture of threat modeling for nearly 2 decades. He wrote the 'threat modeling' bible that many people consult when they need to do threat modeling properly. We discuss the different threat modeling types (STRIDE, DREAD, Trike, PASTA) and which ones Adam enjoys using. Mr. Boettcher asks how to handle when people believe an OS is better than another, how to do threat modeling to decide which OS should be the one to use.   Stay after for a special post-show discussion with Adam about his friend Stephen Toulouse (@stepto).   RSS: http://www.brakeingsecurity.com/rss Youtube Channel:  http://www.youtube.com/c/BDSPodcast #iTunes Store Link:  https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brakeing-down-security-podcast/id799131292?mt=2  #Google Play Store: https://play.google.com/music/m/Ifp5boyverbo4yywxnbydtzljcy?t=Brakeing_Down_Security_podcast   Join our #Slack Channel! Sign up at https://brakesec.signup.team #iHeartRadio App:  https://www.iheart.com/show/263-Brakeing-Down-Securi/ #SoundCloud: https://www.soundcloud.com/bryan-brake Comments, Questions, Feedback: [email protected] Support Brakeing Down Security Podcast on #Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/bds_podcast #Twitter: @brakesec @boettcherpwned @bryanbrake @infosystir #Player.FM : https://player.fm/series/brakeing-down-security-podcast #Stitcher Network: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=80546&refid=stpr #TuneIn Radio App: http://tunein.com/radio/Brakeing-Down-Security-Podcast-p801582/       SHOW NOTES:   Ideas and suggestions here:   Start with "What is threat modeling?"   What is it, why do people do it, why do organizations do it? What happens when it's not done effectively, or at all?   At what point in the SDLC should threat modeling be employed? Planning? Development? Can threat models be modified when new features/functionality gets added? Otherwise, are these just to 'check a compliance box'? Data flow diagram (example) -   process flow External entities Process Multiple Processes Data Store Data Flow Privilege Boundary   Classification of threats- STRIDE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STRIDE_(security) DREAD - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAD_(risk_assessment_model) PASTA - https://www.owasp.org/images/a/aa/AppSecEU2012_PASTA.pdf Trike -  http://octotrike.org/   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari_window   Butler Lampson, Steve Lipner link: https://www.nist.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2016/09/16/s.lipner-b.lampson_rfi_response.pdf   Escalation Of Privilege card game: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20303   NIST CyberSecurity Framework: https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework   Data Classification Toolkit - https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh204743.aspx Microsoft bug bar (security) - https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc307404.aspx Microsoft bug bar (privacy) - https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc307403.aspx OWASP threat Modeling page: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Application_Threat_Modeling OWASP Threat Dragon - https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Threat_Dragon Emergent Design:  https://adam.shostack.org/blog/2017/10/emergent-design-issues/   https://www.researchgate.net/profile/William_Yurcik/publication/228634178_Threat_Modeling_as_a_Basis_for_Security_Requirements/links/02bfe50d2367e32088000000.pdf   Robert Hurlbut (workshop presenter at SourceCon Seattle) https://roberthurlbut.com/Resources/2017/NYMJCSC/Robert-Hurlbut-NYMJCSC-Learning-About-Threat-Modeling-10052017.pdf (much the same content as given at Source)   Adam's Threat modeling book http://amzn.to/2z2cNI1 -- sponsored link https://www.amazon.com/Threat-Modeling-Designing-Adam-Shostack/dp/1118809998/ref=mt_paperback?_encoding=UTF8&me=   Is the book still applicable? New book   What traps do people fall into?  Attacker-centered, asset-centered approaches Close with "how do I get started on threat modeling?" SecShoggoth's Class "intro to Re" Johari window? http://www.selfawareness.org.uk/news/understanding-the-johari-window-model