209. Leanne Butkovic and Angie Boylan of Freezing Cold Discuss No Doubt, Tragic Kingdom

Send us Fan MailLeanne Butkovic and Angie Boylan, who comprise the rhythm section of the New York-based indie rock trio Freezing Cold, join Al to discuss No Doubt’s 1995 breakthrough album Tragic Kingdom. Leanne and Angie each talk about how the album was formative for them, why they still enjoy it and why being a fan of the band—and of Gwen Stefani in particular—is sometimes challenging. They also talk about Freezing Cold’s latest album, Treasure Pool, and their collaborative songwriting process.You can follow Angie on Instagram at @angie_boylan. Freezing Cold also has an account on Instagram: @freezingcoldband.Be sure to sign up for the YMAAA Newsletter at youmealbum.ghost.io. The first four episodes of Bonus Tracks—YMAAA’s subscriber-only podcast series—are now available at patreon.com/youmealbum. More monthly episodes and other good stuff are soon to come. Please consider subscribing! Your support will make it possible for Al to keep this podcast going.To keep up with You, Me and An Album, please give the show a follow on Instagram at @youmealbum.1:38 Leanne and Angie join the show2:04 Al talks about his preconceptions about Tragic Kingdom3:43 Angie details how she became obsessed with Tragic Kingdom and No Doubt when she was 127:46 Leanne recalls her first concert and her early music listening experiences10:58 Leanne identifies the elements of No Doubt’s sound and image that she found so appealing14:14 Angie talks about Gwen Stefani as a fashion icon15:18 Leanne discusses the complicated nature of being a Gwen Stefani fan20:43 Angie talks about the more politically progressive side of No Doubt23:03 Leanne and Angie have felt betrayed by Stefani at times25:10 Al got over his preconceptions27:31 No Doubt demonstrate their versatility on Tragic Kingdom30:49 Leanne talks about Gwen Stefani as a lyricist32:00 Angie, Leanne and Al discuss how Adrian Young and Gwen Stefani thrived as relatively inexperienced musicians36:13 Angie and Leanne cite some of their favorite tracks from the album39:39 Angie notes the one track that she skips40:27 Leanne thinks No Doubt may have benefited from Interscope needing Tragic Kingdom to be a hit 41:48 Leanne shares her reactions to the album’s final two tracks45:34 Leanne and Angie enjoyed No Doubt’s 2024 reunion performance at Coachella47:08 Leanne explains how she joined Freezing Cold48:52 Leanne discusses how Freezing Cold typically write songs50:40 “The Day” is an outlier on Treasure Pool55:20 Angie talks about how she and Jeff Cunningham have simplified their songwriting for Freezing Cold57:03 Angie explains how she became the touring and studio drummer for Sleater-Kinney58:26 Leanne discusses some of Marissa Paternoster’s contributions to Freezing Cold1:00:12 Angie and Leanne talk about Freezing Cold's upcoming plansOutro music is from “Eclipse” by Freezing Cold.Support the show