31.3 - Sukkah Daf 38 B (15 lines Up)

Today’s learning is sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here: https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU=  Summary   They asked of Rabbi Chiya bar Abba: If one heard [hallel] but did not say it, what is the law?  Rabbi Chiya bar Abba: Everybody is in agreement that he was yotze.   Rabbi Shimon ben Pazi quoting Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi from Bar Kappara: The principle of shomeia k’oneh is learned from the verse “The words read by the king” but actually Shafan read it to the king.  Challenge: Perhaps he read it himself afterwards.   Resolution: The other verse states “When you heard”, it means he heard them but did not read them.  Rava: One shouldn’t pause between “Baruch Haba” and “Bsheim Hashem”. (We don’t welcome everyone who comes just to form a crowd, only those who come b’sheim Hashem). [The parenthetical remark in the gemara here should be skipped, its proper place is later].  Rava: One shouldn’t pause between “Yehei Shmei Rabbah” and “Mevorach”.   Rav Safra: “Moshe! Are you saying correctly?!” (He’s talking to Rava, Moshe means “Great man”) In both cases he is merely concluding his phrase*. We learned in the mishna (30.6): “Where the custom is to repeat verses, he should repeat, and where that is not the custom, he should not repeat.”  Beraisa: Rebbi Would repeat the Ana Hashems. Rabbi Elazar ben Porta would add more verses.  Abayye: He would add from Odcha and on.   We learned in the mishna (30.6): “Where it is the custom to recite a bracha he should recite a bracha.”   Abayye: This refers to the final bracha [melech mehullal batishbachos] but beforehand one must say a bracha as Rav Yehuda quoted from Shmuel: One must recite a bracha before [the Hebrew word “over”] doing the mitzvos.   Question: Where do we find that the word ‘over’ means ‘before’?  Rav Nachman bar Yitzchok: Vaya’avor es hakushi.   Abayye: V’hu avar lifneihem.   Or: Vaya’avor malkom lifneihem vaHashem b’rosham.  _________ * Tosfos : From the gemara in Sotah it seems that Rava came to accept Rav Safra’s opinion. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate