38 Extreme Attitude + Reasonable Plan = Success

Adam Zickerman and Mike Rogers discuss how developing an extreme attitude toward a reasonable plan is a formula for success in diet and exercise.

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38 Extreme Attitude + Reasonable Plan = Success Transcript

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SPEAKERS

Tim Edwards, Mike, Adam

 Adam  00:06

You know, some people think just following a diet to the to the letter of the law is extreme. But that to me that's not extreme. That's extreme discipline. Yeah, but it's not it's not irrational extreme working out so you drop every single day of the week. Those are two different types of extremes, in my opinion. And I think there's a way that we should differentiate those types of extremes because sticking to a very healthy diet, which I can which I laid out before, a lot of people think is extreme.

Tim Edwards  00:40

Inform nation welcome in to the inform fitness podcast with New York Times bestselling author, Adam Zickerman. In just a moment, Adam will be joined by Mike Rogers from the New York City inform fitness location, Sheila Melody from the Toluca Lake Los Angeles location is still out, but we'll be back with us again next week. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting network and a client of inform fitness. Now, last week Adam, Mike and I discussed the potential dangers of not closely modulating high intensity exercise programs, such as those found at CrossFit, excessive spin classes or marathon training. Well, today we'll be discussing the merits of developing an extreme attitude about a reasonable plan, especially when it comes to your diet, which is what pillar number two is of this high intensity strength training protocol found in Adams book, power of 10, the once a week slow motion fitness revolution. And if you're a subscriber or a regular listener of the podcast, you already know that earlier this year, Adam adopted a ketogenic diet. Now, some would say that that would be an extreme dietary plan, or is it? Adam will update us on his progress and the results of going keto plus a lot more. So without further ado, here's Adam,

Adam  01:54

you know, one thing about extremes reminds me of some advertisements I see in the airports, it's the same picture side by side, let's say it's an antique piece of furniture. And one person might look at that as garbage, you know, and somebody else might look at it as art, you know, something like that. There's an analogy here, because we think of what we do as an extreme extreme minimalism. You can look at this, as you know, we're trying to do as little exercise as possible as you need. And some people think that's extreme. Some people look at the level of going to muscle failure as an extreme. Some people think eliminating carbohydrates or refined carbohydrates from your diet is extremely not having any sugar and doing something like a ketogenic diet. They see that as extreme. On the other hand, the same person that does a ketogenic diet might think that the gross amount of carbohydrates that somebody is eating is extreme. And from a biological standpoint, you know, there's an argument to be made that, you know, keto is not extreme at all. I mean, a ketogenic diet was absolutely normal, you know, so because that's my perception. My perception is modern diet is extreme. Again, how do you define a ketogenic diet? Well, you have to be in ketosis, you got to be basically using ketones as fuel and fafi fuel. So in other words, the metabolic pathway exists and people are on it healthily for a long time. So it can't be that extreme. First of all, secondly, you know, what I do in a ketogenic diet if I if I, if I didn't call it a ketogenic diet, and I didn't mention that you happen to be in ketosis. And if I said to somebody, this is what I normally eat. And I say, for breakfast, I have a couple of eggs. Right and, and some water and some greens. And then for for lunch, I have a salad with nuts and vegetables, and I put olive oil on it. Alright, and I put, you know, maybe a couple ounces of chicken, or cheese. And then for dinner, I have a whole plate of Brussels sprouts, and a six ounce piece of salmon. Now, somebody say that's extreme if I eat like that, for three months straight. I'd be on a ketogenic diet. And I've ate those same meals every single day or meals just like that. In macronutrient macronutrient makeup, nobody would call that extreme. It sounds like a vegetarian diet with some, some lean meats, little little portion, lean meats on the side, right? No one's gonna say that's extreme diet, if they hear it that way. But if I say that, Oh, by the way, by eating that way, and not having any bread or rice or any of those other things, then all of a sudden it becomes an extreme diet, but that's what I did for 90 days ate like that, you know? Yes. The amount of butter and amount of oils I put on my salads were high, but they're all the healthy oils right? You know, with some controversy, you know, the avocado oils, the olive oils, coconut oil. I know that's kind of controversial, but it's not it's not to me, it's not extreme to me,

Mike  04:59

people, people have expectations based on their experience and they were they, their early judgments come in. And oftentimes when they take the time to actually listen to what Adam just said, like, oh, like if they actually they didn't hear the word ketogenic and heard. Oh, wow, that sounds actually that's just relatively sustainable. It is very sustainable.

Adam  05:20

And I mean, somebody said to me, you know, that's a good experiment. A lot of people ask me, What do you eat right and expect me to kind of sum it up in the in the name like a noun like, right, yeah, it's a Keto or the Paleo diet, 

Mike  05:31

or if you described a scenario describing it. Oh, you're doing the Palio? Yeah.

Adam  05:36

That's a good experiment. What I'm going to do instead is I'm going to say what, what instead of saying, what do I call it, I don't know what I call, but this is what I eat. Let me tell you what I eat. You tell me what it is.

Tim Edwards  05:44

And no one will look at you crooked that way. That's right.

Adam  05:46

So it sounds like a very well balanced diet, right? Like, you know, that's hard for people to do. In our day and age, it is very hard for somebody to eat like that, because of all the choices and the options, because we do have pizza and cereal and cookies,

Mike  05:59

but also their experience, for example, like the idea of what your breakfast can be, you know, like, we've grown up and we thought, okay, it's eggs and bacon, or cereal, or a bagel and cream cheese, or pancakes or french toast. And if you're going really healthy, it's yogurt or oatmeal, okay, or something like that, you know, like, that's what we've that's what how we grew up. But the thing is, and people ask me wha...