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EPISODE · Jun 23, 2026 · 49 MIN

5. A Tale of Two Women

from Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York

In the 1960s and ‘70s, two Afro-Cuban women dominated stages from Havana to New York City. They are La Lupe and Celia Cruz, both virtuosic, vibrant artists. But Fania Records seems to only make room for one woman. One of these women is promoted, while the other is set aside, showing the oppressive mistreatment of women by the music industry. Even still, both of these artists’ legacies persevere. Listen to the Music Behind Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York playlist here.Archival courtesy of “The Dick Cavett Show”  Courtesy of Daphne Productions / Global ImageWorks, The Bronx County Archives at The Bronx County Historical Society Research Library, Mary Kent’s Salsa Talks interviews, Maria Hinojosa for NPR, Craft Recordings, a Concord company, Aurora Flores Hostos Interview, and Maria Hinojosa for Latino USA. This episode also utilizes fair use clips from Enzo GD - Contribution.Want to support our independent journalism? Join Futuro+ and you can binge the entire season of “Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York” right now. Plus, get exclusive episodes, sneak peaks and behind-the-scenes chisme on all our podcasts: www.futuromediagroup.org/joinplus. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the 1960s and ‘70s, two Afro-Cuban women dominated stages from Havana to New York City. They are La Lupe and Celia Cruz, both virtuosic, vibrant artists. But Fania Records seems to only make room for one woman. One of these women is promoted, while the other is set aside, showing the oppressive mistreatment of women by the music industry. Even still, both of these artists’ legacies persevere. Listen to the Music Behind Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York playlist here.Archival courtesy of “The Dick Cavett Show”  Courtesy of Daphne Productions / Global ImageWorks, The Bronx County Archives at The Bronx County Historical Society Research Library, Mary Kent’s Salsa Talks interviews, Maria Hinojosa for NPR, Craft Recordings, a Concord company, Aurora Flores Hostos Interview, and Maria Hinojosa for Latino USA. This episode also utilizes fair use clips from Enzo GD - Contribution.Want to support our independent journalism? Join Futuro+ and you can binge the entire season of “Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York” right now. Plus, get exclusive episodes, sneak peaks and behind-the-scenes chisme on all our podcasts: www.futuromediagroup.org/joinplus. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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In the 1960s and ‘70s, two Afro-Cuban women dominated stages from Havana to New York City. They are La Lupe and Celia Cruz, both virtuosic, vibrant artists. But Fania Records seems to only make room for one woman. One of these women is promoted,...

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