What do you go? See, Jimun, do you know what's going on? You saw Jimun? In four days, in the middle of four days?
No, no. What's four days? I think the seat's five right, right? Forget about the seat's five right?
I'm sitting there just water spraying at me, there's air. I'm going to sleep. If I take the kids to the cinema, I'm going to sleep. What's that?
It was at the Hoyt's Joy Street. Water spraying at you? I mean, it's ridiculous. The kid's in the water.
The kid's in the water. That's what's talking about. Good afternoon, good evening. We're already on.
We're on. It's been a couple of weeks off. That's why I'm on. Good evening.
You're listening to the All Talk podcast. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. We're all here with you.
We're all here with you. I can see clearly now. We're feeling it's going to be a good year. I'm feeling very professional.
We're in a protest studio. I feel like I'm in a super villain's league. We're in a protest studio. Listen, I'm in a protest studio.
You're not going to be in a protest studio now. There's no other protest. I'm just watching my voice immediately. It's a bit of a lie.
It's a bit of a lie. Because we've got one of Australia's biggest game out. We've got the only one because it was okay? Music.
Music. That's a technical. It's a cool key. That's a lot of the pronunciation.
Thank you for having us in your lair. We're in a secret location deep in the heart and the bowels of Sydney. We're not allowed to reveal that. The rest of it.
The rest of it. It was a lot of things. It was a lot of things. Some streets of the pink.
But there's a cat. And what's that called for the George here as well? Can I George? You need hell.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you for having us. Wait.
No, you're having me. Wait a second. What's going on? We're on your podcast.
We're on your podcast. We're on your podcast. We're in New England. It's just put it that way.
Internet. Internet world. But you are a real person. It's not holograms or anything.
No, it's amazing. You got a big fan base ranging from kids to old kids. No, no, no. You got a big range in that.
You don't realize that you need to start meeting people when you go to a dance or run to someone on the street. You're like, oh, it is pretty broad. Depends on the black spot. You're on the street.
I don't know who you are. The funniest thing is when you're out of shopping center, you watch, I was out the other day behind something. I was just waiting for a juice. I was waiting for a juice.
I was waiting for a juice. I was watching them. They were standing 50 meters away looking at their phone, googling photos. That's him.
Someone walked over there. One of them did a drive walk. I had to figure out a closer look. Watching people freak out.
You're so stopping. Sometimes you see a really young kid. You can tell they're just nervous. You want a photo of something.
My ultimate fear is one time I'm going to do that. Someone was just glancing my way. You're like, stakeholders. Yeah, leave me alone.
But that's going to be a great answers in there. Lamar was like a 190th person and I sat down trying to do it every minute. He could've been 72. I was like, who's funny?
He was just glancing my way and then he was like, . . He figured out that right now he has a short count of that. watching a YouTube channel, they love the game.
But what night they play it, they'll be there for me today because they're all the shits. And they'll spend a fortune on it, that's okay. How do you know, was it something like you just kind of woke up and went, I'm an also, like, from the age of 10 to be in a phenomenal game, and whatever, what did you get up to the age of 20, you know, what are you saying? It's like, yeah, I'm not gonna watch, but get a little bit more watch me play them and see what happens or is it something like?
Yeah, I mean, like, I was never like, I've never been great at games, I'm still not great. Like I'm good, I'm as good as someone who should be, who plays him six hours a day, but I know it means like professional. But you don't really watch most entertainment youtubers for being like the best. They watch you for, I mean, normally a blend of being like, okay, the game where it's like, you know, decent to watch, but also just that kind of commentary, like the style of videos you make, the way you make the game entertaining.
So I spend a lot more time doing just dumb shit than I know you're doing like actual, so if you see your Minecraft ones that you've done spike like last night, that was me. I was about 45, I don't know, I just mesmerizing. And then I actually tried to turn the Xbox on to play Minecraft. It couldn't be that big game, but it's kind of, it's a lot of fun to watch, right?
I know how much, I always watch kids go, the next one, he's actually in 10. Yeah, yeah, when you get those stories going and kind of like that. Yeah, yeah, no. You were playing Minecraft last night.
No, actually, my kids now have an Nintendo Switch, which is the fucking worst thing I've ever done. Why? They, because there's only, they wanna play as in singles. They wanna play against each other, but with the Switch, right?
You can tell them, mate. In two switches. No, I don't want them holding it here. I don't want them to like this.
They fall out and fall. But that is all. I stumbled across all just surfing stuff. You should've been, there was this.
No, no, what was it? What was it? You're like, we comment tearing. Oh, yeah.
You know, fucking mesmerizing? Yes, man. That's what I meant. Oh, look, it's always gonna crash.
How the fuck did you do that? This is just people playing a flop simulator like that. Different people flying in flying across landing crashing. This stuff, yeah.
But look at the lens head, with watching television's completely changed, right? Like, when we were kids, we were like seven, not tears. It was like, fuck, no. It was like, fuck, no.
And you had the 10,000 before 6,000. If you got a little bit of a... I mean, it was like, I was gonna go, fuck, it was gonna go, fuck, no. I know that I'm the stuff like when Lost first came out and I'm like, I'm being like, oh, you know, it's 7, 30, on Tuesday, everyone is around the couch.
Yeah, that was for stuff, right? But our kids now have, everyone's gonna access to it. But it's also, it's kind of comforting because it's open to anybody. Anyone, look at me, Linda.
Linda, Linda, Linda, listen. Listen, listen, listen. When you started, when you were a young kid, at a place station, were you exposed to gaming from a kid? Yeah, like, I used to, I mean, I think I got an Xbox when I was maybe in year, got what was it?
Like, maybe like, year eight or something? Like, not that young. You still like always go to friends houses, though, who are to play there? So he's like, they're like, like, do stuff on the back of the other place, bring it, sit inside for six hours, play GTA.
But, um, yeah, no, I, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I, yeah, I got an Xbox. I think, you know, I played it like a decent amount, but I was at boarding school for a year, in 1912, so I couldn't really like play that much back then. My dad didn't really like me playing it that much, you know?
It was, I think it was, gonna throw the Xbox in the pool moment once or twice. I think everyone said that much. Yeah, yeah, I think back then, though, I think it's, maybe changed with these days. I think the, the weirdest thing to me, that was a kid, was like, that kind of like hypocrisy of, you know, if I would like sit in front of the TV and like, just very stare at a TV show for like six hours or something, like not as much of an issue.
But if I would have sit and be like playing like, like, all right guys, you go left, I'm gonna do this, I'm like engaging with what's on the screen, I'm talking to my friends and I'm like doing stuff. It's wrong. Then that was like, oh wow, that's bad, because that's video game. It doesn't make any sense.
Which was weird, it's like, no, like, dead staring in a TV. One first experience of multiplayer was GoldenEye. Oh yeah. It was original, it was in Nintendo.
Yeah. And it was, it was, we had to get it wrong. You know what, it was in my early twenties. And, and spread it out.
I was going out with GoldenEye, don't worry about that. I was like, I can't say what. I can't say what. I can't say what.
No, no, no, no, no. I had to be spread to be. I had to project that TV. And I used to work night shift on weekends, but that night, I think, at 9pm.
That's what you were saying. So we went to her place and played four-play GoldenEye. And we used to smoke back then. And it was like, I'm talking for a cigarette.
And it was like five hours, it just passes. Like, it's easy, you're kidding. It's 2am, we finished by the 5am. Well, I got a confession and I'm like, I love Granite's order.
It's the ultimate. My wife was like, I was doing some work. I'll play Granite's order. And everything.
That's every night. It's awesome. I saw your clip. Which one?
The Grand... The convenience store with your mate. Oh, wow. We landed the plane in front of the store or something.
I swear we did that. No, no, no. I actually know the clip you're talking about now. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I ended up going from helicopter to plane. Yeah, yeah.
I remember I wanted that video to be like, so I was back then, I mean, what I did with YouTube Chasels. I'm back then. I was obsessed with making stories in my videos. So we had to replay that like 30 times.
But having someone that didn't know the plane was even funnier. Yeah, exactly. Was the other person that didn't know the plane? No, no, totally, totally suck.
We'd accidentally punch people. I know he was just punching that guy. He was sticking his finger up at the police. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
He was just punching the guy. He was just punching the guy. No, no, no. So talk to me, car games.
If you played, you took a game. I think one of the first games I got super into was Need For Speed, which is the least realistic car game you will ever play. And I remember the first time I had damaged. But as a kid, I didn't know that.
So I was like, you know, I was so used to being able to hit a corner at 200 kms an hour and then just pop a 90 degree turn and keep on going. With the wall, it uses the button. Yeah, exactly. And then I played the 4's at one of the more simulated games.
And then I was suddenly like, what is this? It's just terrible. I mean, what's the button that never used a break before? What was the break?
I actually, I don't think I ever used it. The entire time I played Need For Speed. And then suddenly, 4's I was just like, smash, turn, smash. You've played the new 4's at the latest one.
And it breaks for you. You can set up automatic braking. Yeah. Yeah, they're still training wheels.
Yeah, that's not a huge. That's not a huge. Not me, mate. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no. This was, yeah, we didn't see them at the time. They're full size simulated that the drivers use to learn and track. This was the pedals.
You're setting it in the cockpit. I think that is 10 years ago. And there was nothing on the market that you could buy off the shelf like that. I waited your life like a few times to have a go.
Because I was saying, three fastest times got to go. And drive an F1 cap. So, they'll take these around. But this thing was the duck.
It was so real. Like every little, you know, you play forza or whatever, but if you, if you, if you're down the break it was like the pressure was on Like the car moved the jolted. Yeah, they've got the like shock things on each one, aren't they? Yeah, I rewilled in Abu Dhabi has the Simulates, the Ferrari Simulates, and I said, oh man, I was like, okay, I just like that.
I don't mind that. And you can sit there forever. I'm gonna try and get out of that after the end. It's that intense.
Yeah, it's that intense. Yeah, it's that intense. Yeah, it's that intense. Yeah, you know, can you see the future of gaming?
Like, would you, I mean, I know, uh, this and it with the Nissan Academy with PlayStation and Gran Turismo, but can you see that games are becoming so realistic that you could get out there and drive up, drive up, drive up, drive up, drive up, drive up, yeah, there was actually a, there was an interesting thing recently. It was like the guy, there was a guy who was, I think like the single best forza racer or something like that. He was like the best at like a racing car, sport, and they put him in a formula one, like, you know, the dream formula one and you know, one or game second or something like a translate because he would play and like a full sim set up and just his ability to, you know, understand like the racing lines and what I tried to drive. Yeah, was, was like good enough that he could fully compete.
And what, you know, it'd be interesting to see if it was actually tracks that he was driving on. Yeah, because if you look at all the time they are, they do the one for one. I think what's the, there's a, I don't know what the car game is, but you can actually, it's in Australian, you know, it's forza, Australian version, I think. Yeah.
The Australian version lets you do all the tracks here. So if you sat on, Mount Panorama, for example, on Havot, for two, four hundred hours, I'm sure you'd be able to get there. Get out. Let's do it.
You bet the two. Right. Simulators can't get it right. Some kind of battles to the stick track.
Coming up out of the street track. And those walls are fucking high. Yeah. On a simulator, you can just run around the walls and not, and not notice the actual depth.
But it's interesting that God translated into being able to drop. Yeah. Well, I mean, like now, if you start combining, like, you know, the thing you were talking about, which I tried like a year ago, they're like, car, simul, like what the races use. And I did it.
I was like, this is insane. Like, what is it? Like, it's like, like, $30,000. So the premium version.
So I was like, okay, maybe not. But, um, when we did that, we did, when we did that, we did it. Yeah. No, but when they, when they did that, they had it at this event.
It wasn't only the racing thing that actually put like a VR headset on you. So like when you're in the carpet, you know, like, you know, you can actually get that. Yeah. Really, really cool.
Can I actually drive a car? That's right. Okay. So I have a, I have a, yeah, thank you.
You see the car loves taking on the podcast here. No, but, uh, yeah. No. So I'm sorry.
I have my full license, which, you know, is probably more reflection on the fact that you should revisit the laws that you get of all the lessons. But I basically, because I've got my initials in Victoria, and there after you're 21, you can just take the test for your P's. So I went down there, got a driving instructor for like two days, because it's like a, two day intensive, like, hey, this is how it all goes. How about I'm doing it?
Yeah. Yeah. So you're not running pedestrians, I'm stuck. You've driven a lot of cars.
Which one do you like? But then, yeah. So I pass the test with that. Like, no, like my actual, um, you know, ability to control a car is fine because I spent a lot of time up on our farm.
And I had like an older, I had a 1987 Nissan pulsar with like 300,000 carmen. It was a square. Yeah. It was manual.
And, yeah. I used to just. I love the, I'm not going to be thinking about that. I absolutely ruined that car.
I destroyed it. I've got racing stripes on it. It's fantastic. Still got it.
No, it is, it is sadly deceased. But it's sitting with like, motorbog time. Yeah. It's actually really good.
They're a good sort of cars, good sort of. Just feel like doing this. Yeah. And that's the type of stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. No, it's sitting in a shed. It's like a teletop.
Yeah. What's the drill in car? Come on. Drink car.
I love the, uh, love an R8 or a 458. Um, four by the, I had a name, I read a four by the eight, but, um, I like the R8 because it's like, I'm the same. Yes. Exactly.
You're the other four by the four? I'm the other four by the four by the eight. Yeah. No.
Um, I love the R8 because it's like a, yeah. This is like a sick car. It's also like, I'm not trying too hard to, like, but I love the, I love the bit of it. Kind of reminds me of a big arty, a little bit.
Just that kind of like the body. Yeah. The white, sort of the frame. Yeah.
Flat, flat, flat, wide. Yeah. Exactly. All right.
Pick up. All right. Yeah. All right.
All right. As well as the fact that it's, you know, about half the price before five eight. Yeah. Still, yeah.
Still, yeah. Still, yeah. Still, yeah. So, it's interesting that all this, like, with the gaining and stuff like that, like, it's basically an industry within itself like it's people, that's all your employees.
I understand. Yeah. We've got some family friends, I've seen, it's in the UK, and two of the sons with the Alpha Sauva esports team. They got drafted.
Do you know what they're doing? They raise esports. They, they raise esports. Yeah.
I think esports internationally is, uh, really, really interesting. Like seeing the, the size of things growing. I think right now, some areas are really good at kind of naturally bringing themselves up. I think other areas, if it came to like a buzzword with media where, where, you know, it's like, hashtag esports.
We've got to be involved in hashtag esports. And suddenly you have all these companies being like, oh, we want to be best in each tag esports. And then if you actually like break down the numbers, it's like, oh my God, they're spending like $5 million for like $100,000 impressions. Like insane, like really like the worst ROI that you can ever see.
But, which has created some really, really weird areas. And a lot of, and there's also a lot of behind the scenes, like very, very dodgy numbers smudging. Like, we're named the league specifically, but there's one that basically, um, the, whatever they're doing in tournament, it will embed, they'll basically pay for ads, right? They're not exactly the arrangement.
They'll pay for ads to embed the tournament as like an ad in websites that people are scrolling all over the internet. And the thing is the way that Twitch registers viewers, if that stream is embedded in a sidebar ad on a website, registers that as a viewer, so they pay for like 100,000 sidebar impressions and then that registers the viewership. And then advertising is like, oh, this tournament's pulling big views. Like we should invest in that when, in reality, no, no one's really watching.
And you can tell, don't even look at the chat. They're all going to be there. If they're getting those numbers and you're not getting the credibility for it. Yeah, so, but, but then there's other areas where you're really, really good, growing really, really authentically.
Does that actually be, like, I mean, obviously it's got to be visually appealing. Is it the sport that's appealing? Was it the commentary lock on your side of the fence where it makes the sport really go through? I think it's not really, I think actually, I mean, obviously good commentary helps, but I think that, um, for a lot of people, it's just seeing the insanely high level play.
Like, when you see someone who's absolutely like a god at a game, it's like they're playing it completely different games. They just do things that you don't even realize. Also, the games would be like the straight-forwarded top games or... Also, yeah, that's the interesting challenge that I think is what's facing is what kind of games are going to take the forefront, because there's a lot of probably most popular games, the ones like League of Legends, which is really, really complicated.
Which, for people who play the game, it gets a lot of viewers because it's very popular game. But if I were to show you, any of you guys, they're like, what the fuck am I watching right now? League of Legends. League of Legends.
Very good. So, it's got like 130 characters from each of those characters. That's what we're going to be doing. Yeah, correct.
But that's my point. So, the advanced traditional, even the traditional sport has, is like, I can literally bring, you know, just like at the, like, at the great get the other day with like someone from Sweden who'd never seen the game before. And he was like, so what's the game? I'm like, they hit ball further, is good.
Like, New Zealand is bad, Australia is bawling. We want to knock their sticks over, they want to hit ball far. You know, it's like, you can write that down. Who's winning?
It's only one of five. What? Yeah. We're going back again tomorrow.
Yeah, yeah. Or like, we're going to have six and like Ozzy Rules or soccer. It's like kickball internet. It's good.
You get a lot of it. And, you know, all the little like, I'll foul for that. You can still enjoy and watch the game without knowing those rules. So, the esports, a lot of those really, really complicated ones are just, you need to invest like 100 hours learning the game before you can even get to the sport.
So, what's your checks? You know what pieces, what armour, what things do? So, you can predict it all, you know that someone's got a strong shield or something. Yeah.
But I'll say, you know, I'll just do driving games. Well, like, on the driving topic, I was saying one of the probably more successful like esports that I think is a good example of how they try to find like a game that's very translatable is, I don't know if you've heard of Rocket League, but it's basically, it's literally soccer, but it's played with cars. So, these... So, it's literally, it's 3v3 and you've got this giant soccer ball.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that, but the cars have like, you know, Rocket Jets on the back, they can fly around and it's crazy. Like, it's not real locked. It's not real locked. It's not taken to end it.
But it's great for an esports because you can pretty simply be, you know, it's one of those and then it goes in the net. There you go. That's what you need to do. It's fantasy.
It's like, there's rules. We used to watch the sport where you score points or do something, but the plays are rockets and things that can definitely do other things and the way you go. And then there's obviously like the ones that are literally just essentially virtual real life, like the formula one, they're like racing sim games, like they have fully sports behind as well. So, like, that's literally just like real life, but digital, you know.
What's next level? What do you see is phenomena going the next 10 years? Because if you look back 10 years ago, who would thought, when were you last for now? Yeah, 20 years ago.
It's interesting. I think that, I think one of the, there's a bit of an interesting clash right now between technology is going, you know, such a crazy way, you know, if you guys are trying to think virtual reality, right? We can put it in the headset and it's like, in the game. Crazy.
Or like, you know, what you were talking about with the racing car simulator chair and being able to combine that with virtual reality. There's a lot of technologies making games you can do really crazy stuff these days with it. But the problem that all those things have is you know, if I get virtual reality, I got like 50 different tables, I got plug into 50. I got a camera in each corner, I got an output free ground to even get the things to say that harm isn't yet cheaper in the future, perhaps?
Well, it's just going to be, I think, interesting to see whether or not they can, you know, kind of simplify the hardware down to a point where it makes that kind of really immersive gaming something that consumers want to do. But ultimately, like, I don't necessarily think there has to be a move away from what it is right now, which is playing games on a screen with a controller with a mouse and keyboard. It's very casual, it's very easy to get into, and it's, you know, you don't need to like overwork it really. You know, games are fun and it's not only about increasing the amount of field of vision you have, but coming ahead is a lot of ways to enjoy games.
You've got your different type of game. I mean, they're all sort of, you can categorize them. You've got your driving game, you've got your sport game, you've got your killing games. Why the hell is Fortnite just gone really thick?
It was free. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of things. It was, um, Battery Art was just before I came out, like the biggest genre, so obviously made it a big fucking point. Free to play on all platforms, like you said, with like no pay-to-win aspect at all.
It's not like paying money gives you an advantage. Available on literally every single platform. I think a huge thing, which is pretty underrated, is just the art style they went with. It's very colourful.
It's very bright, which is great because number one, kids see that and they love it. It's very engaging to play, but also when you make content on it, then, you know, people see that content and it brings you in a lot more. It's more engaging to watch and the more people that watch people play Fortnite and what they want to play Fortnite. And then all this noble coming in a hill, it was just, oh my god, it was exponential.
It does make you think because you're building ramps, you're getting high ground, and people can just chop you from the low. Yeah. And you're dead because you're going to bloody high. Yeah, so it's a lot of, and that's, yeah, that's also the other thing that makes it, you know, so good.
It's a lot of games. Like I'll play for, you know, the usual playing like six hours a day. I'll play them for two years, six hours a day, pretty much every day. And after a year, I'm like, you know, I'm pretty much as good as I'm going to get at this game.
I'm like, I'm not the best, but like this is kind of a peak for me. But I'm doing it right. Exactly, but Fortnite, not that at all. Oh my god, because building is now so complicated.
The speed people do stuff, the rate that people move. Like I watch a, I've got a friend who's young, he's one of the, he's 17, he's one of the best players in Australia, and he's watching him play. I can't even comprehend what's going on. I'll see, like, you know, I'll just see like a flurry of building, like things going everywhere.
He's jumping up and down, he's moving suddenly, he like edits a hole in a wall, and there's just nanny there, he shoots a man. I'm like, number one, how'd you go back? Like number two, how did you know that guy was there after you've just like been sitting around like building a game? You were really, really, really, really good.
I saw it click the other night where you played a 12-year-old. Oh, you're like coach me? Yeah, but you were normal at a time. What were your figures?
Yeah, yeah, I went undercover, except for like, that was a good video. The people out there making money on coaching, like, you don't notice at the start, you were about losing your 15 bucks, whatever it was. That's where the kid turns up and he was like, I can hear the voice, I'm like, oh my god, he's the answer for real. And then he recognised your voice for people like, different people.
Yeah, that was the hard thing. I've got a semi-distinctive voice, so unfortunately, when I try to go undercover, it doesn't go back. We got the most. Yeah, no, that was a good video.
No, coaching's not like a huge thing, it's mostly people's need to, yeah, I mean, it's weird. I mean, James, people can't really tell you that much about it. You literally just have to sit and just practice. I cannot play for off-drive so many times.
Sorry. It reminds me of Honey Games. Is it like Honey Games? It's like, you know, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's like, I'm going to play it.
And then my youngest one's like building, right, I'm like, where was that wasn't there before? Because I put it there, pulling, shit out of your backpack and oh my god. I was just having a quick look at that, forming one of the esports. No, no, this is, this is, that's, it's, that's not.
It's, that's not. So basically, if anyone has one from EF-1, anyone that buys EF-1, no, if one, can, can, can, can I go into qualifying? Right? And then there's the pro draft series, which is what they do, I'd say.
No, no, no, no, no, no. You got to go to the qualifying. You got to the qualifying. No, Mercedes Benz has built a dedicated facility that the defending champion can practice on full time.
What? Yeah. Well, it's the same way that they get drivers from GoCarts, I guess, you know, like it's not neater than a like one to one comparison, but it could be a. No, there's ten drivers, ten drivers this year.
Ten teams, ten drivers. Yeah. Right? And then all the EF-1 teams, half, self-out, all the EF-1 teams have got an official, F1, esports driver.
Are you telling me you're fast enough, I'll come out here? Yeah. Don't put any one that buys your official game. Hey, because you would have random just because formula back, and they was, who's got enough money.
And they got $100,000 in prize money. So if you make the, the, the ten and you, if you get people that are ten drafted, you're basically got to show the prize money at any end of you. Yeah. No, some of the esports ones, I mean 500,000 these days is pretty small.
for one of it, where just the internet's like a World Cup basically for this game, and the price was 40 million. I am going home and buying Nintendo switch on the way to the other kid. No, no, no, I was in Nintendo. I played the Switch Mate, yeah, the dance on the game.
Yeah, you can't, I was in the game. Time's up, I went old school last night. After the movies, after almost throwing up in Jumanji, I went to the time's up, and I was dancing games. This guy was playing two players.
So at the same time, he was dancing on the stage. At the same time, no, no, no, no. He must have been playing two. I don't know what he was doing.
The blood was sweating like an animal. This is before we went to the table. We came back, he was still fucking dancing. He was still going, he's school's high.
There's people crowd around, he's building him. I was going to be still in the shuffle. 20 years to late that guy. I never said you'd like to be stuck.
I'm never saying you'd be stuck. What a legend. He took his girlfriend out to watch his games. I was sweating like an animal.
I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I need a lot. I saw you, you don't want to work for charities. You had a pro-am tournament? What was that now?
Oh, yeah, that's four night. They do a fun tournament every night, every night, two or three of them a year, where they just have a big prize pool, and depending on what you bison it, you can win a bunch of money for charity. They ended up coming second, I believe. And that was like, down in four night, they make too much money, and they're pretty good at giving it away as well.
And the right size, so I think it was the second. Got like $100,000 each. You got to choose the charity? Yeah.
That's cool. You'll choose your charity? Okay. They do a lot of stuff.
All of the while, they're actually, maybe like, Ethiopia, kind of places, but I went to Ethiopia with them when I was like 13, 14, it was like, yeah, it's not Australia. This is a sure issue, not Sydney. Oh, Dusty. Dusty, pretty depressing.
Yeah, it's just crazy. It's good. It's a wake up call when you've grown up in Sydney in my whole life, and then you go over there and you're like, holy shit, this is actually, you know, it gives a lot more meaning to how the other half live. Which I think is like a term that gets thrown around a lot.
It's more than a heart. Yeah, yeah, I mean, the craziest thing is, there was like, we were like, obviously, it was hungry, staying at like, pretty, like, very like, not great hotel, but one afternoon when we weren't kind of going out or doing anything, we walked to like, there was like a Hyatt or a Hilton or something there. And it was just insane, these giant, like, 10-meter walls all the way around it. Like, and you're going along with those people, just like, in the car, like horrible.
You walk through the day and you could be like, and it was probably the single nicest hotel I've ever seen in my car. It was like, and you got people like 50 meters away, like, starving all the straighten in there, they're doing high tea, which is like sandwiches all, and which obviously is like, I've been at Colonial. Very Colonial. Yeah, but you know, it's like, and obviously that's like, yeah, it was a good little wake up.
So that's kind of like stuck with me. So that's my go-to charity these days. Oh, yeah, I'll go with them. What is it?
They're about here, it's rather cool. Notice there's, I mean, they've got ones in America. There's a specific one, 100 projects Australia, which is the one that I do stuff with, but yeah, they're really good. That's great work.
I put on an Instagram that will come into the lair today. Oh, yes, please. And we've got down 100,000 followers of that. Sorry, I put down on the top.
And so, Grit, there's 100,000. So that works. No, exactly. So we've got a...
What are the two most ticks every month? I know, we're like... We use the internet for what, just searching things, and pictures, but a good friend of ours, the show, a poor maric, sent a question in, and it's basically saying, aside from car racing, have there been any other game formats where players have gone from being great at the game into getting a job in that field for real life? So like a simulator on GSC?
Yeah, I mean, I'm guessing like Formula One's pretty much the main example, you know, doppelg gamers, maybe like casual games, you love the industry, you love that company, you want to work for them. But I mean, you see people come from all over, because ultimately, you know, if you're working in the marketing department, games companies are same as Apple or anyone else, you know, they're just trying to sell you to understand the best way to spend. I'd say that it's probably, whenever you... You can definitely tell the difference between when you work with like a younger person versus an old person these days, like a game company, because they probably...
They can understand the shift in, especially stuff like advertising a bit more, you know, where they're where, you know, maybe like a older ad exec who's, you know, come from like, you know, came up in the 70s. It's like, are we to, you know, spend on those TV ads? You know, kids watching TV these days, watching Netflix, watching YouTube, we're like doing this and doing that, and I'll be like, oh, yeah, we'll spend $100,000 for like, you know, do you think of that? TV shows these days, like The Voice, you know, or any other, like the big ones, like a success, like a crazy success would be, oh, we got a million views on a, on the show tonight, like absolutely insane.
It's why Luz had a recording like this. Yeah, and it is with the Luz recording, it's assuming two or three people, 30 people in each room and they're both complex. Yeah, and I look at the views on their official social media channels, YouTube stuff like that, and it's, some clips depending on what's happening. It'll be four or four hours, they've watched for an hour.
That's what you don't look right. It's not even, I mean, what's the difference between the views, what would you get in a, well yeah, but I mean, like, you know, you think about the cost that it would take to put online, so you've got like, insane tech behind it, you've got hundreds of employees, you've got this, you've got that, you've got audiences, you've got everything, probably like millions, like a million dollars in episode or even more. It costs a lot, yeah. Whereas, you know, on YouTube, you've got a kid in his room who will literally just shout again, 20 minutes and up, or like two, three million views.
But like, and it's accurate. And it's actually, and it's actually direct scheme. How does the YouTube views work? Like, you have to watch the whole clip.
You have to watch, I believe, 20 seconds or so for it to count as a view. But most people, like your average engagement, will be about 60%. So you won't get, so normally you'll see about a 10% drop off in the first 10 seconds, I'm gonna like click the video. Just like two million views, say 1.8 million, will actually like say, and then, you know, by the end of the video, you've probably got about, you know, 40 or 50% of the people.
I've got a Chris, I'll just pop up, speak on holidays and there was, I'll go there, he was very much into it, Instagram, I'll go there, okay. But every five minutes, she was taking a photo, she was editing this, she spent a whole time. Yeah. She was an Instagram, she's a fucking Instagram.
She's a fucking Instagram. Yeah, yeah. Is it hard to maintain that? Such a, it's hard to maintain it.
Like, you've got to play a follow on that. Is it something that you constantly, anyway, this girl did a bit of time, but she would constantly just run and make sure that the page had enough contents of people would keep coming back. Is it something that you, like, I got on the beach. It's something that I don't know.
It's something that I don't know. I like giving you a contact. Is it something like, like, Tesla's driving, it's ranging, so I think you get like, it's an anxiety. Oh, yeah, I didn't like very much in the early days, I'd say, you know, for the first two, three years, when you're like, really like, coming up.
I was absolutely, like, I was a full-on addicted, addicted to just, you get addicted to the numbers, you get addicted to the growth. And the thing is, like, YouTube's not like any other job, because most jobs, it's like, you know, you get your job, like, this is what you gotta do, maybe like, for once in the end of the line, it's like, look, performance would be like, hey, you're doing like, pretty good, maybe work on this area, like, go away for another four months, end of year review, like, do I get my bonus done? But YouTube, every single day, every minute of every day, you're getting like, a real-time view, you're having like, today's video is currently performing 13% under your current video, it has 426,000 views, your average is 400,000, and then you're looking at your subscribers, like, today I got 20,000 subs, the other day I got 26,000 subs, and it's a bit of a cast-22 because if you, you know, say I get 20,000 subs one day, and I get more subs than next, I'm like, oh wow, I'm on the hot street right now, you know, I've got good momentum, my subs going up, I got 20,000 yesterday, 25,000 today, I need to take advantage of this, I need to work more, so I ride this wave while I have it, because YouTube's very momentum focus, so that leaves you working more, but then, say the next day I'm down, I only get 15,000, oh my god, my view's going down, I need to work hard to get the momentum back, and for three years, like my first videos on YouTube were just absolutely that, it was non-stop, like, one of my views, one of my subs, and that's what you can offer, that is what you do full time. That's awesome, that's a good fun.
And if you take, and it is like my momentum, and if you stop putting content on, if you notice, and the media drop off. Yeah, I mean it becomes easier, the kind of bigger, more established channel you are, like these days, I mean, I think I just took a week off, like from January 1st to the 7th, so I thought I expected to take a break. Or do you compile your content, or do you think, no, no, I mean videos before then, so I keep something up, but it didn't post as much. It used to be on YouTube, but if you take a break, you're like done, like your channel will just like, you know, and you can fight to get it back, but it was hard.
These days, YouTube claims you can take a break, and it'll be fine, but it's a little bit, do you know what, right area? Do you know what works, what does it work, do you think, I've got a couple of that video got all the time. A lot more, and you think, bubble ball, or something, I was drunk that night, but the other one, the end you was trying that character. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you got a pattern down, do you have a pattern, or sometimes you'll figure out a trend, you'll be like, okay, that video did well, I'm gonna do something similar to it, and kind of play off that.
But other times, no, it will only work a couple of times, you normally repeat the same thing two or three times, still people catch on, like, hey, you just don't have the same thing. But other times you'll have a video, like this is a great video, this video is gonna be well, no doubt at all, absolutely like, it's great, and it's a text. And other times, I'm like, I'll go up this video, it's like a throw out, you can think of anything bad as a day, and it was up to you. And is it live on the other than the four guys, or not?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I have two editors, so you do the editing, and I just do the recording. I used to do the editing, but... So much more, don't need to... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're tripping stuff before, but there's...
Yeah, watch out, we're coming on you two rows. We're coming on you two rows. We're coming on some ID, and we're not playing games. It's okay, we're gonna do the next book.
Yeah, thank you, look at what, it was saying about, you know, you got a TV show, and you don't have a million, a million, we don't know, like, so I get to be in a house, do it half a month, watch that, and pull that stuff. Yeah, three million times. You look at the other night, Ricky Jibae, at the Golden Globes. There's a 59 second clip.
Is that all for anyway? I don't know what, so you think you're having a little more watched, you know, the whole thing? Not many people would have watched the whole three hours. Yeah, go ahead and put it on the door.
The 59 second clip of him tearing shreds off, you know? Promise that. Yeah, I got to leave that out the cup of the yard, that's how... Oh, watch it off, you definitely.
It's how you do it. It's how watch it off. Yeah, I'm going to be out of a shopping pretzel. Right?
Okay, I'll go see what it's going on. Yes. 13 million views. Yeah, probably more when you talk a lot about all the different separators.
Yeah, all the different things that happen. Yeah, 13 million views. What do you add? Well, you add it up.
More people probably have watched that segment on YouTube than what was the whole three hours on TV. I find YouTube's got amazing too, because you can now go, oh, there's a social line, we don't have any access to Australian television, so it's YouTube. Yeah, and you can watch music, you can watch now. Yeah, it's becoming a really cool platform.
Well, what makes kiddo food quietly? And people watching on YouTube? What? Whatever that's called?
What's called? A bang. Yeah, it's on my dad. He basically goes and buys a cup of nuggets.
Okay? And he'll just, he's going to be cool. That to me is just, people eating food or, people watching people like the rest. He's a young rapper.
He's got a guy. Yeah. He's got 8-4 nuggets tonight. He's got an 8-4 nuggets tonight.
And he's got friends that, it's cool for him. He's not like 35, I mean, he's not like 35,000 subscribers. What was he? He's got many guys and boys.
He's got nuggets. He brings them home. Okay. And he'll sit there.
He'll sit there quietly. And quietly he gets up. Now, people don't want to watch him. Come on.
I'm going to watch it. I'm not going to get me. I'm going to watch it. There's so much weird content.
I mean, like, you know. Not that it's weird, but Ryan's Toys reviews gave the guy out on Boxers Toys. He made last year 40 million. He's 8 years old.
I'm not going to get him on a short show. I'm not going to get him on a short show. I'll take that. I'll put that in a short show.