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645. Is the Air Traffic Control System Broken?

Flying in the U.S. is still exceptionally safe, but the system relies on outdated tech and is under tremendous strain. Six experts tell us how it got this way and how it can (maybe) be fixed. (Part one of a two-part series.)

Episode 645 of the Freakonomics Radio podcast, hosted by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher, titled "645. Is the Air Traffic Control System Broken?" was published on September 5, 2025 and runs 62 minutes.

September 5, 2025 ·62m · Freakonomics Radio

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Flying in the U.S. is still exceptionally safe, but the system relies on outdated tech and is under tremendous strain. Six experts tell us how it got this way and how it can (maybe) be fixed. (Part one of a two-part series.)

Flying in the U.S. is still exceptionally safe, but the system relies on outdated tech and is under tremendous strain. Six experts tell us how it got this way and how it can (maybe) be fixed. (Part one of a two-part series.)

 

  • SOURCES:
    • Dorothy Robyn, senior fellow at I.T.I.F.
    • Ed Bastian, C.E.O. of Delta Airlines.
    • John Strong, professor of finance and economics at the William and Mary School of Business.
    • Kenneth Levin, retired air traffic controller.
    • Polly Trottenberg, former deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation.

 

 


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