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EPISODE · Jan 21, 2025 · 40 MIN

69: Sam Roberts ON: Solving the Pension Problem with Bitcoin

from The Block Reward | Real Stories. Real Impact. All Powered by Real Money - Bitcoin · host Scott Dedels

Sam Roberts is a UK pension actuary and a leader in integrating Bitcoin into pension strategies.In this episode, you'll learn why his firm allocated 3% of their pension funds to Bitcoin and how this decision supports long-term investment returns, the challenges pensions face in ensuring financial stability for retirees, the role Bitcoin plays as a growth asset and a hedge against inflation, why traditional investment strategies might fall short in the future, and how Bitcoin could redefine retirement savings in the coming decades.Sam is a qualified actuary and director at Cartwright, a UK-based pensions and investment advisory firm that serves institutional clients such as corporate pension schemes, charities, and corporate treasuries.Under the direction of Sam, Cartwright has been the first UK firm to make the bold move of advising their clients to allocate Bitcoin to their portfolios, part of the so called 'arrival of institutions' into this new financial realm.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction[04:50] Differences between defined benefit and defined contribution pensions  [06:30] Challenges faced by defined benefit pensions  [08:10] Why investment returns are critical for pensions  [10:15] Role of Bitcoin as a growth asset in pensions  [12:45] Analysis of Bitcoin’s historical performance  [14:30] Explaining the 3% Bitcoin allocation decision  [16:00] How Bitcoin's lack of correlation diversifies portfolios  [18:20] Risk assessment for including Bitcoin in pensions  [20:10] Long-term potential of Bitcoin compared to other assets  [22:00] Why pensions need to consider Bitcoin as an option  [24:15] Comparing Bitcoin to traditional investments like real estate  [26:00] Addressing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility  [28:10] Evolution of pension strategies over the decades  [30:00] Impacts of inflation on pensions and savings  [32:40] Importance of education for pension trustees  [34:15] How Bitcoin simplifies the concept of saving  [36:00] Predictions for Bitcoin’s role in pensions in the future  [38:20] Encouraging active decisions on Bitcoin for pensions  Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Do you need help getting where you need to be? Getting your pension trust in a prime position can be a tricky business. Find out if Cartwright is the perfect partner for you.If you want to connect with Sam, find him on LinkedIn.Resources Mentioned:Nakamoto Portfolio | WebsiteParamount Employee Benefits & Pension Consulting | WebsiteFind More From Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn

Sam Roberts is a UK pension actuary and a leader in integrating Bitcoin into pension strategies.In this episode, you'll learn why his firm allocated 3% of their pension funds to Bitcoin and how this decision supports long-term investment returns, the challenges pensions face in ensuring financial stability for retirees, the role Bitcoin plays as a growth asset and a hedge against inflation, why traditional investment strategies might fall short in the future, and how Bitcoin could redefine retirement savings in the coming decades.Sam is a qualified actuary and director at Cartwright, a UK-based pensions and investment advisory firm that serves institutional clients such as corporate pension schemes, charities, and corporate treasuries.Under the direction of Sam, Cartwright has been the first UK firm to make the bold move of advising their clients to allocate Bitcoin to their portfolios, part of the so called 'arrival of institutions' into this new financial realm.Timestamps:[00:00] Introduction[04:50] Differences between defined benefit and defined contribution pensions  [06:30] Challenges faced by defined benefit pensions  [08:10] Why investment returns are critical for pensions  [10:15] Role of Bitcoin as a growth asset in pensions  [12:45] Analysis of Bitcoin’s historical performance  [14:30] Explaining the 3% Bitcoin allocation decision  [16:00] How Bitcoin's lack of correlation diversifies portfolios  [18:20] Risk assessment for including Bitcoin in pensions  [20:10] Long-term potential of Bitcoin compared to other assets  [22:00] Why pensions need to consider Bitcoin as an option  [24:15] Comparing Bitcoin to traditional investments like real estate  [26:00] Addressing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility  [28:10] Evolution of pension strategies over the decades  [30:00] Impacts of inflation on pensions and savings  [32:40] Importance of education for pension trustees  [34:15] How Bitcoin simplifies the concept of saving  [36:00] Predictions for Bitcoin’s role in pensions in the future  [38:20] Encouraging active decisions on Bitcoin for pensions  Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Do you need help getting where you need to be? Getting your pension trust in a prime position can be a tricky business. Find out if Cartwright is the perfect partner for you.If you want to connect with Sam, find him on LinkedIn.Resources Mentioned:Nakamoto Portfolio | WebsiteParamount Employee Benefits & Pension Consulting | WebsiteFind More From Scott:Scott Dedels | XBlock Rewards | InstagramBlock Rewards | YouTubeBlock Rewards | TikTokBlock Rewards | WebsiteBlock Rewards | LinkedIn

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