alive. Well, I am I everyone. Well, welcome to the Nelly of North podcast. It's a podcast hosted by Northern nerds.
Apparently I am one of your son, Jesus Paul. Don't we talk about it? It's astounding. Time is fleeting.
Madness takes its toll. So join us tonight. We've got two beautiful, sexy, wonderful, vibrations people. We've got the wonderful, the delectable, Frankly, and we've got the and we've got Columbia herself.
That is Sarah. But before we do get into this night, as Sarah pointed out earlier, we have a virgin with us. So Lee was his first time watching the rock. It was my second time watching it.
I watched it a year ago. And classing you as a virgin. So you've got your lipstick. So get your lipstick out.
No, you're not making a mike version on himself. No, he's getting the V on him. Yes, put V on him. Don't know how long I took to do this, Mabel.
I'm not ruining it. But as I said, we're all getting to the guys. So trying to get your headphones on now. This is not going to work.
Yes. But the only one who doesn't. Tonight is a celebration. 50 years of one of the most inclusive, the most loving, the most arms wide-opening community experience that anyone could dream to have.
I would love to say that nerdy up north was as inclusive and as loving as Robbie Hora. I don't think anything would ever come close. So yes, tonight, we've kind of been celebrating it now for the last couple of weeks. Yeah, the celebration is going on quite some time.
Yeah, so we are celebrating 50 years of Robbie Hora. And I'm going to talk about why we love it, what we experienced of it, what we think of the movie. But Sammy, you've got the taglines. Oh, do you want to do the disclaimer first?
I think the disclaimer might want to come out first. But before we do that, I don't really think you had to. You said that. Before we do all that, there is another celebration that is going on to the celebration of one of our very own, Mr.
Page. His birthday is today. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, little Peachy Boo.
Happy birthday to you. Thank you. Happy birthday, Sarah. Thank you so much for coming on tonight and joining us on your birthday.
I don't even do that. So thank you. I'll do the disclaimer. And then we can crack on open the celebration that is Robbie Hora.
So everything discussed in today's episode is our opinion. If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us on the Facebook page. You can come and join the Nodia of North Discord or the comment section where we can have an open discussion. But what we won't have is anyone coming for us and tell us our opinions are wrong because we can all agree to disagree in fandom.
So let's give it fun. Keep a kind and keep the toxic behavior out of Nodia. Very well said. Thank you.
75. And before, even here, before even Chris O'Lee comes in, yes, I wasn't around then. You dig it. I'm not that old yet.
Not far off as well. But wow. Give us the taglines that you're one of a lady. Thank you.
Let's have a seat. There's quite a few. And so you're gonna have to bear with me because some of these come from actual other anniversaries. Right.
So 25 years of absolute pleasure that comes from 2000 to the 25th anniversary tagline. Right. The Antisor patient is over. That comes from the 1990 viny orchestra set release.
All right. Oh, like this one. Let there be light. Let there be laughter.
Let there be legs. Let there be lust. Let there be lips. So, you missed a cue.
I thought you made a first video. Oh, don't do it again. Let there be legs. Let there be legs.
Just don't fall out, please. Go on. That came from the 15th anniversary VHS. Right.
Okay. Action packed. Lots of laps and sex. Gorgeous gals, thrills and chills, Chasovania parties, romance.
Oh, good. The next one. You can clearly tell what this was rivaling when it came out. A different set of jaws.
Two big films about different types of lips. So yeah. Another kind of rocky. He's the hero.
That's right. The hero. I'm loving these by the way. We have a three more and the probably the one that we all know the best and you know, probably live by this is don't dream it.
Beat love that one and dreamt in your living room, be in the theater. That was the 1915th anniversary video release and the last one, musical dream come true. Oh my. That was the UK quad poster.
I will now make my face go darker. Yes. Sorry, doesn't read. It's just a lie.
It's all fixated. But yes. Me and Sami's talked a lot about rocky horror the last couple of weeks. We've talked to some very important people in Robbie Horror and Robbie's Robbie Horror Future and Robbie Horror Past as well.
We talked to the choreata of Robbie Horror, which was an experience that will live with me for the rest of my life, I guess. I'm quite interested to hear from Sarah. So I was leaving that little bit of anticipation there of her love, her experiences, like why you Robbie Horror means as much because literally when we've talked about Robbie Horror, you've been on your bandwagon, you've been on everything to do with Robbie Horror. You have been flying that flag high.
Why? Why? Why? I mean, can you, if you've watched it, you know why.
That's the big start all to be all of it. It's got excitement, it's got dancing, it's got singing, it's got aliens, it's got a big castle in it. You know, it's a bit of everything and it's sexy. It's it's just kind of like it feels like you belong there with it.
Yeah. You know, none of us are old enough to remember when it came out. Christ. I think I can speak for like, at least Paul and Sami, that when you've seen the movie, you just feel a part of it really, don't you?
Yeah, that's what a lot about this. It doesn't look like aspect you see or how you see it or even if you just like listen to the city or the record. It kind of like you feel like you belong to like the community because let's be honest, the world is full of imperfect people. The world is full of outcasts, miscreants, weirdoers, losers, strange people and Lee.
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm perfectly normal here. So to find like a home or a place where I might not resonate fully with you, what will be a part of it that does or will be a part of it that you can relate to in certain aspects. And in all ways, we kind of go into the movie or go into the theatre performance as either a Brad or Janet or a Dirty Virgin like Lee.
And you come over it and I dare say it. And I'll not say this about many movies or many things that you see. It changes you a little bit. And you're never quite the same after you've experienced Robbie Horror.
And that's kind of like the magic of this movie as well, or magic of the stage or magic of what was created. That this was just a bit of fun, a bit of like busy expressionism of getting, expressing something out that was taboo or kind of like avant-garde of its time. Yeah, some of these big words. I'm sophisticated.
You've ruined it by pointing it out. It's the hat. The hat is big. It's the magic hat.
But yeah, with Lee technically saying it twice, I'll let him off there. What? Because I know, let's be honest here. You didn't dig this first of all, did you?
No, I've had a strange journey with this movie. I didn't really watch it when I was younger because it was just like, I saw the deep, well, the video cassette covenant was just like, it hasn't even got so less than Stallone in. And then as I got older, I just really hated musicals. And I didn't watch this until about a year ago.
Everyone in the discord was going, you haven't seen it. You have to watch it. It's like a rite of passage kind of thing. And I watched it.
And I didn't get the vibe of it because I went in like as someone that hates musicals being like, no, I'm not going to enjoy this. But then the other week Paul was like, do you want to come on the Rock, your horror episode? And it was like, I don't know if I'm the right person to ask. I'll give it another watch and try and do it from a different perspective.
And I went in just looking to have a good time and actually really enjoyed it. And I was like, I'm trying to be feet along to a lot of the songs and having a little single, especially with Time Warp, because everyone knows Time Warp, even if you haven't seen it, singing me heart out to that. And it was a really good time. It's a still, it's a good discourse song, isn't it?
I still don't understand the plot of the movie. Like, I have no idea. I don't think I need to. No, exactly.
You don't really need to. I think I requested you to come on. Yeah, because I knew Sarah was always going to come on. I think friendship sort of being lost if that didn't say happened.
But I'm sure I asked her. I will get away. Yeah, I think he asked for you and Krista. Come on.
I was like, I'm intrigued. I want to know what they guys think about this. It was an interesting one as well, because this was the episode we thought. We'll get as many people on as we can.
And we did ask out and reach out. And for some reason, or circumstances happening, a lot of people couldn't get on this episode as well. Because with us being a community and making it well, trying to be a community at times, this is probably the ultimate community movie as well. I'll mute you to the stage so especially because I think it's coming back to the next year, I think, which is January.
So if we can, we will try and arrange something to where people get together and go and say it together. Because it's one of those movies where experiences that, again, you can go by yourself and you'll get an experience doing it in a group of people, group of friends, and just letting yourself go, letting all innovations and not saying, having an audience of what letting yourself. Fuck going down. Like yourself.
I can't even use that costume again. Yeah, become free. I'm not going out and fucking this. Like, can I just make a joke?
Right. The thing is, when this comes to Sundland, there isn't a person without an outfit on. Like seriously, one of the people I know from work, like it's good for years ago now, he said that he mentioned that he was going the same night that I was and his wife was getting dressed up and I was just getting dressed up and went, oh, but I'm not getting dressed up. I'm not getting dressed up.
And seriously, I saw him outside and he was the only person without an outfit and he stuck out like a sore thumb. It made him the center of attention. I wouldn't dress in something else when I'm not going out the house in Fishnet Stonners. I'm already self-conscious right now because the chat's really quiet and I'm just assuming people coming in and going, I hear a little rant and then clicking off.
Aww. There's a monetization gun because we said that our word. I don't get dressed up when I go. But the idea of dressing up to me just gives me major anxiety.
So I've rather not. I've been to so many in my life and I have not dressed up for any one of them. Can't do it. Can't bring myself to do it.
I love seeing everyone else dressed up. And it is a contracted closet. Is it something? Yeah.
Got to point. Sorry. I can't see anything. I can't criticize anyone else.
I'm only joking. I'm sorry. And some stuff from me, you put an L on your head as well. Remember that?
Oh yeah. Sorry. That was going to get more stuck. Yeah.
I dress like I live in that black castle anyway. So I don't need to do any more. Well, there you go. There you go.
My cousin wasn't a big fan of the idea of dressing up and walking around Sunderland when we took her for our first experience of the live show. So what she did was just put some black trousers on, a white shirt, a black jacket and just put a little sparkly ball tie on. Oh, that's so cute. She was a transylvania.
Oh, I love that. Well, the last time I went was about two years ago and I became everyone's course of course of course of course of course of course because I'm the only person who knows how to lose a course of probably because that's what I used to do. I love, back in my goth days, I love to course it and obviously had to learn how to crisscross it up properly. I think I did it on MSN do as well.
I just spent the majority of the time just and basically these glasses just have a noise. Not realizing that when I loosen it, they loosen too. So things were coming out where they shouldn't be in the middle of town. I was like, we're going to have to get this done quickly.
Yeah, if anyone needs a course of done, right, you're all right, I will have Lee gladly, Lucy, all of them. So what's your favorite song? I know it's going to be a hard one to answer this one. So I'll actually answer what.
So we'll go with Sammy with a German Instagram, which you think you sang it to us when I came on earlier on. I wasn't thinking what you thought about it. Shut up. I had even said hello yet and all I got was you singing Eddie's Teddy, but it wasn't it was Sammy's Teddy.
When Sammy said she didn't like a teddy, he knew she was a no good kid. Didn't even get a hello, I just got that. Yes, Eddie's Teddy. I love that song so much.
It's so much fun. Dr Scott's other things like, I did. It's just it's the whole lead up to it because you get Dr Scott who clearly has some, I'm not free, tendencies going on there with his very, very thick German accent, which he's trying to hide very cleverly. And the so yeah, I actually just backtrack a second.
I rewatch this for the first time movie wise in years after we taste the Linus interview. And it was, I think I said this before, it was like watching a whole different film. It was like watching it all over again. Yeah.
There was so much that I'd missed from it. And this scene particularly, I was like, Oh, good God, it's a Texas chance on this go. However, I've never seen this before. I didn't realise how graphic it was when the lift of the the cloth on the table as well.
This is how much I have watched. I have seen this film so many times, I can't count. It's been in my life for as long as I can remember. But I didn't know why Eddie, why he was there.
I never understood what Eddie's part was in the whole dynamic. And I never really thought to ask either. I just just went, Oh, okay, Eddie's there. It wasn't until I was watching it the other day.
And I was like, Oh my God, half Eddie's brain is rocky. He is. Yeah. So these whole revelations are happening while I'm watching this film.
I know I've just totally stingrolled you questions. I'll come back to a few of the points because there's some things I want to talk about with that. Yeah. What was your favourite song?
Easy time warp. Time warp. Why time warp though? I do it's just so energetic like in the middle and I love any kind of the time warp for this place.
I'd love to go Brian's voice and the beginners are astounding. I was really tingling. It's amazing how much you can change his voice. Like the detail.
There's that and then there's obviously science fiction is sent by him, which is just for years, I had no idea that was him who was doing it. I was 100% convinced it was Patricia Quinn. So he's got such a amazing like range in his voice. Time warp shows off all of it.
Yeah, I think Patricia King sang it on the stage. I think. Yes. And it's faster on the stage as well.
It's not a slow down as what it is on the film. What about you Sarah? I mean kind of, yeah, I absolutely love science fiction. It's the one I automatically go to sing when somebody asks us to sing something from Rocky Horror and I love the cleverness of putting all the other movies in it.
But when I'm actually sitting down and listening to what's been said, I think I'm going home to be favourite. I've gotten to whole new different. I think we're told with Linus when you're listening now it hits differently to when you're what doesn't it as a kid. Because when you're younger, you don't get the meaning of the presence of a lot of the two things.
It's just like this is a good rock and roll song. I love it. It's upbeat. It's fun.
Go on home. It's so many different notes and hits. It's it's it's on a little bit more when you're not expecting. Um, but yeah, it's just how I think Tim Curry plays that as well.
Yeah, it's so vulnerable. So so vulnerable. And the fact that he kind of washes his whole eye make up away. It's like because make up can become a mask and the mask is like totally getting taken away and you're just seeing the real you know, the real friend of mine because this is an appointment to the movie where you have a lot of sympathy from you've not had it the entire film until this very very second.
And this song that's before this one. I never remember what it's called. Rose to my world. Yes.
It's brilliant. I love that song so much. No, any study always be my favourite, but that kind of comes in a close second. And it's all to do with Brad Singing.
Yeah. Sorry. I was always distracted because of the niggles in that thing as well. Yes.
Something I didn't know. I was watching this. I was watching my mother's television and I can barely fucking see that I could still see Nell's fucking nipples while that was going on. But it's very boss mix range and I didn't realize how high and in perfect tune he could get as well.
That sounds so good. So so good. My favourite I think I was talking about was Hoppertootie Bless My Soul. That was my first time hearing a meatloaf singing as well.
Oh, I grew up with him. I think I said I watched this when I was weird too young to understand any of the connotations or anything that was going on. I think me and you used to fast forward touch me, touch me, touch me. I want to be touched for reasons.
Even though I watched it now, I've always paused that bit more than I've ever thought. Preacher of the night. The swing, when you've got to like meatloaf and he can tell he's just performing the absolute shit and having so much fun as well. And he's been on this kid bad ass motorcycle.
And as as I said, I didn't realize when I was younger that the scar on his head was because he'd removed his brain. And you find out the different relationships Frank and Furt is hard. Like going back and causing so many problems or hardy-x and issues as well. That's again, the songs hit a little bit differently or hit a little bit more as well.
But I think one of the reasons as well as Columbia's performance as well, how excited and crazy like not she gets when Eddie's coming out as well. Because when I was younger, I was always a magenta girl. Like I fell in love with her and still literally is defined every girl I found. I just want to be Patricia Cohen on the roll.
But yeah, I hope it's pretty. One thing I wanted to talk about as well, you mentioned it with In-View with Richard and you mentioned just when you talk about your favorite songs, is the influences in this movie. Now you've been one of the hosts of the top rated monsters of North podcast. This should be a monster episode in a way.
Because even though it's a musical and it's got comedy in, it is one of the greatest horror movies. And as you said, it's got all the different elements. It's got all the different references from Frankenstein, Texas Chainsaw, NASA, and plan nine from outer space. Like literally anything that you can think of is thrown at this one.
Even a little bit like I would say cycle at the start when the fume, the wedding and the going through the graveyard as well. I got no hard to say you're living dead. I know that's funny but I still don't like and then you get the castle. I got like it's quite a bit of Hitchcock vibes from it as well.
Oh no, I get what you mean. I just I get a lot of night in the living dead. I can see we're coming to Gertrüvar Bra. I see that going on there.
Yeah, the influence in this movie is just crazy. And when we talked about Richard, I knew he was going to reference B movies. I never thought he was going to say the blob. That was such a moment for me because the for monsters, the blob is being the thing that kind of keeps coming back.
Our whole, I don't want to say a passion but everything after that. So we started season two with Bill the Goresy. And the next episode after that was the blob and we did it as a double feature. And up until then we had no idea of what we were going to do at all.
That episode changed the whole trajectory of the whole series and everything we do kind of comes back to the blob. This when I spoke with Kira and Jimmy, Kira's dad was a special effects makeup artist on the blob. So it's kind of like we saw him, the minute he mentioned it. In the interview I was like, I know he's talking about Steve McQueen one but oh my gosh, I love it.
Inside my mind was like breaking. They say the blob defines monsters up north now. It really, and Dan will agree with me on that. And we just the fact that I managed to get my Steve McQueen fact in there about to talk on just me and my dad.
I love the fact that I get useless information and have like trolling around on me brain and I get to just give it to someone. That was a moment right there. I got to pass that information on Richard over. I think it's crazy how many references and points is in front of Stein is probably the big one as well.
What type of vibe were you getting from it Lee with it being kind of going through new eyes? I kind of weird. Like I know you said you didn't experience it properly the first time. And when you sat in the first one, well not the first one.
You always get better with the second time. I thought it'd be. What kind of vibe did I get from the whole movie? What was the thing you got from it?
It was it's one of the weirdest films I've ever seen but not in a bad way. I wouldn't say I could classify the genre of this film because it's got a bit of everything. It's got a bit of horror, comedy, romance. I don't understand anything about my feelings to do with this movie.
I don't understand the movie itself. It is a good time. Do you think you watched it a second time Lee? I'm really glad I watched it a second time.
I'm really happy to hear that you went in with it with a bit more of an open thing this time. Did you do it? You've been doing a lot of B movies within grumps. Did you not feel a bit of all with it?
No, this is more like anything prisoner. I was going to do that. I was going to do that. Come on.
Honestly, that's probably one of my top moments from you is watching you flip your shit over that film. I just thought with the B movie that you've been doing, you might have seen some kind of like, I'm not seeing similarities but certainly some influence. I don't know because this it didn't feel like a B movie. It still has, it feels like it's got a good budget to it.
Like all for the time that it was made. Yeah. Like in 75. This looks like million pounds just movie.
Was it? I'm not sure. I might have made that all. I haven't done any research on this.
I just wanted to put the hands to the reason why I'm talking so much shit but I just wanted to air coming with, you know. I'm just going to check my own keyboard. I'm doing calls with feelings. There's a lot of things confusing about this movie though.
Like why are like Dr. Fronton Fertor and Riff Ruff at the beginning? They're not really. Not really.
Not really. 1.5. Well, they're just playing extras. Yeah, something.
But you've got to remember this is also it's taken from a stage show and turned into a film and it's kind of, they're not really there. It's just like a, I'm not actually like, yeah. Yeah. And if forums will be like, oh, Brian Janitor actually like, they crashed the car in the corner and they've dreamt of this whole thing.
And that's why those people are there or something. And I mean, you could have an argument for it because it is very strange like how it all just seems to come together and you know, hit the head in the car and it's a bit more rational than like there's some space age alien from the kind of trans. The way that Richard described it though when he was like, and who give these aliens this transporter? What were they thinking?
Well, I love what Richard thought that's expanded as well because most like alien movies or B movie horror films when it comes to aliens coming to earth. It's like, why would the travel sort far in the world to blow it up? When it's basically Frankfurt has traveled so far just to fuck everything that's going. I like that message in a way, even though it's quite like sweet.
Hang on, hang on, are you telling me that Frankfurter is an early version of Commander Shepard from Mass Effect? Yes. Oh, he's just kept from Futurama as well. I don't know what to call that.
What's called it all? Zach Brannigan. I just assumed that he wanted to, he's just, he wants to make the perfect person. And every time he goes in, they clearly have some human fault, I'm being a bit too real here, but they're having, they somehow have a human fault because humanity will always have some flaw.
It's never going to be perfect and he just can't understand that. So he has to then keep going for the next person and the next one and the next one till he gets rocky. Yeah, but in each of those relationships, he's gone in 110%. He's just not ended.
He's not ended as well. No, no, no, no, he's a genius, remember. Yeah, it is absolutely beautiful in this movie. Honestly, stunning.
Absolutely fucking stunning. I think I said this to Paul and I can't remember if I actually said it on one of the interviews, but what I know is more than anything in the last watch I did, how much he talks to the camera. He is literally walking you through this film every step. Every moment he has an opportunity, that fourth wall is broken and you don't, I have never picked up on that before until I was really fucking paying attention.
It's clever as well because you're getting two people doing that in this movie because you're getting a narrator and then you get Frankfurter, then you get Frankfurter giving you the little nods and I like that it's not so overly done. It's not like Deadpool's that way, turns and like seriously directing to the camera. It's more like he's walking you through and he's like, look, look, yeah, and again, that could be either mistaken me as an actor or because this was Tim Curry's first ever movie. This is mindful.
This is busy. He came from the stage and it's very unheard of as well, like getting someone from stage to movie, the same cast or keep the majority of the cast. Again, when he was talking about the Transylvanians, then were just people who they were friends with who wanted to have a good time and be part of it. It wasn't like, so they just went out and just picked up and just went to town with it.
I'm going to talk a little bit about it. Even imagine them, like looking at Tim Curry and going, no, he's not good enough for this role though. There's no way that even came into anyone's head. Yeah, but this movie would not be what it is to do if not for Tim's performance.
That's exactly what Linus said. He said there's an argument there that this movie doesn't succeed if he's not in it. Yeah. And just going to give a little bit of a spoiler here as well because as I said, Strange Journey, the story of Rocky Horror comes out of the pictures in certain moments next month where a few of us have been lucky to see this documentary as well on one of the highlights for me.
And again, take this as we which we were you wanted. I was really worried when they were going to interview Tim Curry just because everyone knows what's happened to him because he's been very well. He's had a really bad strokes. He was at the full of horror a few years ago.
And again, not to say it was done in bad tears, but some of the photographs it was worrying. So when you know he's going to be interviewed, you kind of sitting back and expecting the worst. And he still got that spark. He's still there.
He's still engaging. He's still, I can't say the word. It's running through. And he's telling the story of how he got, how he was going to portray Frank and Ferter because originally he was going to play him as German.
He was going to do a German accent from France. And it wouldn't have been the same kind of performance. And he says it was just sitting, this is how fucking wild it is. It was just sitting on the bus in London, traveling to London, going from doing his day.
And some woman was sitting in front of him just talking in this really posh English accent, like non-seating her words. And straight away, he changes the flex and his voice to copy it. And he goes back into front and further. And I got goosebumps.
And there's a few moments in the documentary that I well have actually cried. That was one of the moments that broke me down. I was like, he's still there. He's still there.
We were not going to laugh as well. The laugh. Yeah, we were really worried because we obviously sing the photographs from the love of horror. And it just, it was just a little bit upsetting.
And he didn't know how really to take it. And I even had the first thing I said, I messaged Paul and I just went, Oh my God, that is not what I was expecting. And I don't know what I was expecting. But yeah, listening to him talk with such clarity.
And the conviction as well. We both just went, I feel okay now. We no longer need to be sad. Again, Tim Curry's had one of the most amazing careers as well.
If you look at the films he's doing, he's been in like, Home Alone 2, I'm up at Strutter Island. He's terrified us with Did you see Scary? Maybe to. He's just going, maybe to.
Clue is one of his clew is probably his third best performance. Oh, you think I'm going to go wrong. I love clue. I think clue is absolutely phenomenal.
It's going to just get attacked by minions. Oh, you haven't even got the ball pulled? Well, I thought what just screaming behind me. Oh, that's okay.
Let's call them little transylvianians coming to me to torment you. Just to speak about the transylvianians just for a quick second. Did anyone remember the rumor that Lisa Riley was actually part of the cast? Yeah.
Thank you Sarah. Thank you. She's not. It's not her.
I know exactly what you mean as well. Yeah. Lisa Riley from Emmer Deal. Yes.
There was a long stand in rumor. No, but there was a long stand in rumor. I don't think people, when it comes to this movie, I don't think people realize how long it's been out for. So when it gets, when it comes out, everyone's just like, oh, it's just something that's come out now.
They don't put a time on it because it is completely timeless. And I always remember that run in rumor that Lisa Riley was part of the transylvianians and I'm like, she fucking isn't. If Christopher Biggens is young in this, she is fetal. She is not here.
Is that the one that's meant to be feymed? Chris, they were biggens at some point to think. I don't think so. There's some more interactions with the transylvianians.
So, what did they do with black hair? Christopher Biggens. Yeah. Yes.
Is he in this movie? Yeah. He's part of the transylvianians. What?
He's still in the movie. I'm not even able to recognize him because this is like 1975. Yeah, he wasn't green or old. He was black hair.
But when you go back and watch it, you can see the biggens. He can clearly see the transylvianians. When the transylvianians won the party, he goes. Yeah.
I'm not watching him. The fellow horror one had the big reunion, like when everyone was there, apart from Susan Sarandon, he was part of the crew. He kind of like came with them. He still holds a huge flag for this film, like in this whole rocky experience.
And I love the fact that they let him be a part of that. Yeah. And there's so many good things. And I'm sorry because I know he hasn't seen the documentary as well.
So I do apologize by talking about it so much. There's so many good things. Like, it's so positive. And that's probably the way it comes across.
Because when we talked about Richard, like, what did he have any worries about the documentary? He said no because of Linus's involvement. And he knew it was going to be in CFN's. Because you could have tried to rake up dirt.
You could have tried to rake up bad things or this happened or this thing. But it would have focused on the wrong thing. It would have focused on the wrong message. And to be honest, it's already in there.
Richard talked about it himself. He said at the time when he brought this, you know, it was in certain places, it was illegal to be gay. You know, there was experiments being put onto these, put onto the people who were gay. Sorry, I'm trying to use my words very carefully.
And it would have been the wrong message because the right one is already in there. Does that make sense? No, it is. And I loved during the documentary as well.
Like when it showed everything growing. And like the midnight showings. And then the performances where you had the people performing as long with the movie as well. And you had these people who were talking about their experiences in, they were in New York or during the height of the AIDS epidemic.
And says the fact that they were doing rocky horror, not going off doing other things that could have been a way to save their lives to a degree. And that meant more like just the love. And there's a warmth from it as well. Like such a warm feeling.
Like, and there's not many times where you get like warm and fuzzies. And when Richard even like, there's a few times where you could go back to Richard in the studio or he's playing on the guitar. I know like we, what you're saying, you should release an album. But it is a thing to hear.
It's very few things that you listen and think are, it doesn't sound, it is right. It doesn't sound as good. It just like lit this way and up. Oh, it was absolutely stunning.
It's if that's all we get and that's all we get. And that's enough because it was just beautiful to hear. But he did explain that he hasn't got the capacity anymore to be able to play guitar at that length of time. And the age is a bitch.
And it's certainly caught up to him in some ways. And but that performance is other ones that you're in the documentary, regardless. Like you completely suck it into it. But there's a whole deeper level of in it when he starts singing.
Because the music, like everything's all slowed down. And you can actually hear it and the it's just, I can't put it in two words how it can actually make you feel when you listen to it. Because you've got to experience it yourself. Very much so.
So to get the weird question out of the way, because I know a fine fact we're going to get some weird answers with these ones. If you were going to cast yourself in the rutby horror, like you, like who would you play or who you think you would give the best performance as? So we'll go with Mr. Leggs himself, frankly.
Well, I tell you what, you cast you then we get to cast you. All right. Okay. I like that idea about that.
See, that's why we're a team. Two work. Two work. Me and the dream work.
Um, there's probably two people I think I could play now. I would love to tell you. I think I would rock that or Dr. Scott.
Dr. Scott. I could say yes, Dr. Scott.
Dr. The beat of this. You'd be this. We can't wait.
We said what Lee, who would you cast yourself as? Oh, I feel really bad saying this because nobody else should ever play this role. But Dr. Frank Infordo, because I would grow all out in it.
You would wouldn't you know what? I think that's what we would cast your eyes as well. Because I know you would give it a 110%. Like you would literally do your homework on this.
I wouldn't because I don't want Russell Brand to play in Frank Infordo. Um, I think I would, I think Lee would be interesting as, I think you would be interested in as riffraff. I think you would be. You could be a bit creepy as well.
So, you know, I had Lee as Frank and Chris. And Chris as riffraff? Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say. I've got Chris as Rob.
What if Chris Paul is a Eddie as well though? Definitely like, I believe in the Rob and Rob. I've got it. Frank Isley, Chris as riffraff and Phoebs is Magenta.
Who was Sarah? Sarah, I think. Well, Sarah, who would you, who would you cast yourself as? I would have done Magenta for science fiction.
But I'd be happy to just do the Usher X side of things and let Phoebs take the main one. No, you're going to fight for your role, Sarah. Don't you fight for it, exactly. If the song I want, I don't care about it.
So, sort of Patricia as well, Pat said, I'm going to do it. Well, I'm going to agree with you. I think you would be a really good Magenta. I don't know.
I think it's a bit too, I don't know. Maybe she's not me really. No, she's not. I'd also be willing to give it a go as a gender swap to Eddie.
Hmm. I think that would work. Oh, yes. And again, through the gender swap, I think Phoebe would be a Mears in Frank Infordo.
Oh, yes. She's really tall as well. So she'd like tell her all about that. That would be, yes.
I think Becca would be a good Eddie as well. I think Becca would be a good Eddie. Okay. What about you, Sunny?
That's what I'm thinking. That's me. Okay. I'm going to be my turn now.
I went in Janet. I hit my Janet. I hit my Janet. Oh, my phone.
Actually, if I'm going to be completely sure you're not the honest with me, self, I would fight for the role of Magenta. But you probably would be a Columbia. I'm not that crazy though. You're not a fuck off.
I've seen you fool, Greg. I've seen you. You have that drunk side. I've seen you.
I've seen you hungry and angry. Oh, that's true. That's true. There's that and then there's there's drunk Sam, which one of your couple of people have actually seen Lee Sinish Paul Sinitt.
Um, okay. Okay. Okay. We'll see Columbia.
Even though I would never wear a watermelon, a million fucking years. It's too bright. Too sparkly. I'm going to cast Antlers the narrator.
That's hot. Yeah. He looks at all these glasses. He's sorry.
He's getting new glasses. Actually, the narrator job doesn't sound like a bad thing, you know. No. I quite like it.
I hear of the narrator. But I also like the idea of singing A of science fiction. Mm-hmm. I think that's probably one of the best.
It is the Gortu song to sing. If you are singing from Rocky Horror, you are starting a science fiction. Mm-hmm. And I do like the fact that you get to put R key on there.
I automatically do it every time you say a chord rains in monsters. I automatically sing it. Oh. Then you must have been singing it a fucking lot in the early days.
Okay. I can't look while I get what they. I know you must have been singing it a lot. But those who bring them up all the time are paying attention now.
Oh, Claude, I'm so sorry. So if we were going to stay on the cast inside as well, they take and us and our friends out of it. If we were going to remake Rocky now, which I know they've tried many a times, like if we're going to do it properly, who would you think would work into today's? Today, okay.
Um, that's about that. That's about today's today. Today's today's today's today's today's. So let's start with each character.
So we'll go abroad. We'll start with abroad. Oh, I think that's an easy one. I'm going to pick one person that I think would be a very interesting choice.
Go on. That was someone in mind. That was in my head. No noise to his two baby face.
That's I was thinking Patrick Wilson. Patrick Wilson's a gosh, a hell of a singing voice. He was a theatre director as well. Let's not forget that he's a theatre train, theatre director singer.
So I was going, don't do that. You just, you just, you just, you just, you just, I know what you've disappeared. Um, uh, Tom Holland's such a baby. I think that's why it works because he's got the innocence.
You want someone really innocent and naive to be. What you say, we've already had it from the lip sync battle as well. Oh, I want to get him to be real. That's a good flip at the end to show you what could be.
Do you have a, do you have an opinion Lee instead of just longing for Chris? I kind of think, if anyone to play Brad's, he's, I just feel like Brad's very generic in this movie. He's so ordinary, isn't he? Yeah, you could get anyone to play him in it, wouldn't I?