Alday Family Murders Part 2

Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Hailey. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. All right, welcome back. I am excited.

Are you? I am because you're I have spent the whole week horrified by the story that you presented last week and not being able to look up the information because you wouldn't let me and I was very tempted. But but I kept my word I told Hailey I wouldn't look up information. I did not.

So now I want to know. What happened? I know what we're talking about like last week how the story and it's so horrific never heard of it never heard of it never heard of it but also gives in cold blood vibes. Totally cold blood vibes.

Yes, like that movie that book was so terrifying and so scary. It's like to be a per like epitome of like true crime writing. 100%. That was it.

And and yeah my grandma lived it. I was telling Hailey last week my grandma is from Kansas and not far from where the that crime happened and it totally changed how they did things. She wouldn't walk alone anymore and they locked their doors and just you know the whole vibe changed. So and I'm sure that that happened in this town in Georgia as well.

Oh for sure. I remember we had to do which I really liked every I think nine weeks or six weeks or whatever it was when we were in school. When I was in eighth grade we had to read a book of our choosing could read you know any book but you had to do a little project like some type of physical representation of that book and present it to the class. I remember I was very into true crime even as a young students and go even then and I chose in cold blood as one of my books and I believe they had they were off of a list of like classic like you had to pick a classic and that is you know a classic and I chose that one and I remember I think I was you know 14 reading this book was a very I got me very interested in you know procedural solving things so my project I made a case file and I went and found like original documents from the case or copies of the original documents from the case I think Kansas and Cola case files which have been super cool that's you go to terms but like went to like different sites like government sites and found all the information and copies of original like interviews and things like that and put them in a little file and like we've had them all displayed in the library at school.

Did you get an A? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Meanwhile I as well had my choice of the classics and I said you know what green eggs and ham. That's the one. And I yeah I was I guess college so I can't remember. I would have because I was an elementary administrator.

You weren't. Go ahead. No I can't remember the only other one I can remember reading because I know we did several was of my cinnamon. Oh it was the only other one that I remember having to do but there were several other ones that we had to read that one traumatized me.

Yeah. And I do remember the poor I can't remember this boy's name but this poor boy he chose the Wizard of Oz and we all knew he didn't read the book. He had just watched the movie and I remember our teacher in cold blood looking him straight in the eyes saying what color were Dorothy's shoes because they're not read in the book. They're not read in the book.

And he said read immediate failure. Yep. Like a brutal eighth grade English teacher like just let him have it. One should know and we had summer reading and 11th grade my summer reading was Oh god.

What's that? Oh the one from the 20s and it's the family that moves around. The family that moves around the 20s or in the Great Depression. Oh god.

Is it the the glass? Not glass menagerie. That's Tennessee Williams. Oh that's a play.

It's a big thick book. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. The readers that listen are screaming at they're screaming at the screen.

Oh they're screaming at Google that quote. Hang on. Okay. But anyway, what did you do with it?

Anyway, so it's about this family travels around amidst the Great Depression in the United States. So I did not read the book, but there was a movie with Henry Fonda and I was like, okay, I'm gonna watch this film. It was in black and white. It was very lengthy.

It was very boring and I was too busy talking to my friend on the phone. So I was like, I'm gonna fake it until I make it. There was a test and you had to write in. So it said who is, you know, what is Rose of Sharon?

Describe Rose of Sharon. So I said a beautiful rose that grows in the field. My teacher said, I need you to come up here, please. I did.

And she said, did you read this book? But tell what she said. Actually, it wasn't. I that was that that was the quote from a tell to cities, which I also read.

It's not that one. It is it's something else. Okay, continue. Continue.

You've been called the front. I've been called the front and I come up and I talked to her. She said, you didn't read this book. Did you?

And I said, um, she said, did you at least watch the movie. And I said, all right, I rented it from blockbuster. But I started talking to my friend on the phone and I couldn't, you know, totally watch it because it was kind of boring. And she was like, what is Rose of Sharon?

And I told her again. And she said, it was a character. She was one of the characters. Her name was Rose of Sharon.

And she was a character. And I was like, Oh crap. And she said, the grapes of wrath. The grapes of wrath.

Sorry guys. The grapes of all the wrong screening. Anyway, and she said, I'm going to give you a 70. And I said, Oh, that's generous.

And she said, in the future, at least fake it better. Do some research. And I was like, you know what? I heard that.

I took it. And when I didn't read Cold Mountain, I at least didn't read it better. Can I put it in a presentation? Got an A plus.

It's always, you know, as you learn about exactly 100%. The Gurs of Wrath is on that top shelf up there somewhere. I think I've never read it. Why is it on your shelf?

Are you ready? I think it's on my shelf. Maybe it's not because I have a lot of books on my shelf. I haven't read it may not actually be up there.

I feel like it is. It's really thick. Yeah, it's on the outside. Anyway, that's the great way to trauma of English class.

Great to get into this. So we kept. Yeah, so we left off the Alde family in Georgia have been horrifically murdered by three escape convicts and Billy that they picked up on the road. The 15 year old Billy.

They've gone through multiple cars and they sold a car from Richard in Pennsylvania. Yeah, we're trying to figure out what happened to him. Came down to Georgia in that car. And now they're driving Mary's car.

And they're headed even further south. Yeah, so they are now on the run. So they were all and I don't really have a lot of info on how they were captured. But they all ended up being caught.

I think there was someone kind of split. There were some people around. I don't know. It's all very fuzzy on how they were caught.

But they were all caught. So we're kind of going through different times. But at some point they all got scared. Yeah, so yes, George Dunge was the first one to be captured.

And he was taken into custody on May 17th, which was the day of the funerals, which is only three days after he made a very far. He was interrogated for over two hours. And he told, you know, pretty much everything was like, this is what happened. Talked about the assault, the rate, the murder, he confessed that he had not been able to sleep since what we had done to that woman.

So he had a little bit of a guilty consciousness. And he did say that only Billy was innocent of the rape and murder. He said, Billy wasn't, you know, he's 15. He wasn't involved in the rape and the murder.

Like he didn't pull a trigger. He didn't participate in the rape. He was just along for the ride. So there's a piece of George that seems like wanting to protect young Billy and George did participate in the rape.

Yes. Yeah. Probably under some duress from yeah. So he was trying to protect Billy.

However, ballistics, which they did testing the bullets and everything in the body showed that the allies had been killed with four different types of guns. One of which Billy had been carried. So does that mean Billy fired that gun or does that mean that somebody grabbed the gun Billy had been holding or after the fact that Billy take that gun? It was like, this is my gun now.

Or maybe they said here keep this for safety. It's hard to say. You don't know. We don't know.

I mean, it seems like George is being pretty forthcoming. Yeah. But it could have been a protective thing. Like I'm going away forever and I don't want this young boy to.

Yeah. Yeah. Wayne's story was a little bit different from George's. You know, George kind of had this remorse sadness about what had happened.

Wayne though appeared to have a pretty good time recounting, you know, what had happened to the all day family. He boasted that he personally had killed everything one of them. Like I did. I was the one who did it.

And he was proud of the of the fact, like proud of what you've done. He smiled, laughed as he was telling law enforcement, you know, all about this stuff. So George actually had, you know, a pretty clear memory of what had happened, you know, timeline where they were what had happened. He was pretty, pretty on it.

Wayne though was a little bit more fuzzy. For a man who was responsible for all of this, he had no idea. So he was so fuzzy on the details. And I think just an idiot that he had to ask officers if Alabama was a part of Georgia, and if Louisiana was a county in Mississippi, oh, good God, he's low.

Yeah, it's not great. Not great. Which, you know, I mean, he wasn't in school a lot. Didn't learn his states.

That's true. I mean, it just, you know, but if you can't even figure that out, though, I don't think you're going to mastermind the murder of six people. Not unless you're no, I don't think you're the mastermind. I think that you were your brother tells you to do you were a participant.

So Billy's account was very similar to Georgia's. You know, he said that, you know, the Aldi family members arrived at the trailer. He got the right order, the order which they were killed. And he said, you know, he had not participated in the murder at all.

He was just there. Not great, but we shouldn't kill anybody. Yeah. Only Carl.

refused to say anything about the day. The only thing he would say was that it was a pretty May day. He was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

The four inmates were returned to Seminole County on May 24 of 1973. There's just 10 days after the murders. So they've been picked up, interviewed, and transported back all within 10 days of this murder. That's impressive.

And they were supposed to be arraigned at the courthouse in Donaldsonville. Each of them faced six counts of murder as well as felony charges of rape, kidnapping, armed robbery, and the theft of Mary Aldi's car. So with all four of them under arrest, the long wait for the family of Richard Miller, that missing Pennsylvania teenager, was finally able to come to an end. So they now, they have everybody there, we're going to figure out what happened to Richard because his poor family has been like, oh my god, or son's missing.

Yeah. Like for, you know, a month, I guess, probably a month, a couple weeks. Yeah. So with the discovery of his car at the Aldi site, the Mary Aldi site where she was murdered in the woods, there were eyewitnesses in Pennsylvania who gave accounts of the men that Richard was chasing.

Authorities suspected that Richard was probably dead, but they'd wanted to locate his body to return it to his family. So they're going off the assumption that the men have killed Richard to take his car, which, you know, good theory. There were several hours of negotiation in which Wayne was assured that nothing he said or did could be used against him. So Wayne is the chosen one here.

He agreed to return to Pennsylvania to aid in recovering Richard's body. Shortly after his arraignment on May 24th, he was taken by plain to Maryland where he laughingly told authorities that he had pulled the trigger himself, which again, yeah. For three days, he led officers in circles on a wild goose chase around the Pennsylvania and Maryland border. He told them that he knew plenty about the homicide, but he had no geographical sense.

Clearly, obviously not. And he was in return to Georgia. It's probably in Louisiana County. Yeah.

So he was not able to help them find Richard Miller's body, but authorities were surprised when Carl said, I'll help. So Carl, you know, broke his silence, broke his silence and said, you know, I know where he is. I'll tell you where he is. So unlike Wayne, though, he was transported to Pennsylvania, had no remorse, but he actually had a photographic memory of landmarks and where they traveled.

Like he could tell you exactly where they'd been, what was on the side of the road, like he knew it all. So crazy smart, which is terrifying. Um, he did not want to take them there. He just told them.

So he directed police to the exact route they had taken from when Richard Miller had taken off following them to when they had eventually circled back in kidnapped Richard. The group was taken to a small town of Flintstone, Maryland, where Carl gave them detailed instructions on where to find Richard's body. And he did not want to accompany them to the site. The body of Richard Wayne Miller was found exactly where Carl said it would be.

It was up a logging road and to the left of debris-strooned trash dumps. So this is just a really sketchy area. The man had tied his hands behind his back, forced him onto his knees, and then they argued about who was going to kill him, a whole time Richard's pleading for his life. You know, he's a 19.

He's a child. He was in shot in the back of the head and his body was left with the trash. Carl was very much like, you know, we killed him, whatever, um, had to happen. So we didn't know exactly who it was?

We don't. We don't know. That's the point that he pulled the trigger. Carl said that from the moment that Richard Miller had approached them, he was a dead man.

So like that was the plan, you know. We should take an off chase and then they were like, yeah, we gotta kill him. So now we're going to get into some of the trial stuff. So trial is taking place in Donaldson ville, right?

Yes, in Georgia. Um, do you think that we get a fair trial though? We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it.

So first trial started was the one was for Carl. Billy had actually made a deal with prosecutors, um, who felt that because Billy was going to be ineligible for the death penalty due to his age, um, was the best eyewitness and that he had, you know, been told by several people, like it had been said by Billy and several of the others that he had nothing to do with it. So they were like, well, he's probably going to be the best source of information. So we use him to testify.

Yes. So rather than going to trial, Billy was going to be sentenced to 20 year terms for burglary and car theft. And that was the maximum sentence he could receive and he would testify against the three defendants. But he wouldn't have to go through the trial.

He wouldn't have to deal with any of that. And he's not eligible for the death penalty. So, um, the state of Georgia versus Carl Isaac's started at 9 30 in the morning on December 31st of 1974. The judge was Walter Greer.

Um, both of the prosecution and the defense made closing arguments on January 5th. So not a super law. That was very fast trial. Um, and then they sent the case to the jury to deliberate 68 minutes later.

The jury reached his verdict. Take a while to think about it. They found Carl Isaac's guilty on all counts and he was sentenced to death. Good.

The trial against George began nine days later, um, followed the same kind of style as Carl's pretty quick. 58 minutes after the jury got the case, they returned with their verdict of guilty on all counts. Um, Georgia's attorney did kind of do a little bit more of a, you know, plea for him to not get the death penalty. Um, the jury deliberated less than two hours before voting on death.

I mean, yes, he was a participant in this, but also it seems like he had some remorse. Yeah. So to me, it seems like he should have just had life in prison, but, but, well, I mean, we'll, we'll get there. We're going to get some more.

Yeah, because around this time, we're talking about turnovers in death penalties. Okay. Go ahead. Um, Wayne Coleman's trial was last.

Um, but like the two previous, it was about a three day trial, um, ended with a guilty verdict on all counts after the jury deliberated for about 50 minutes. Um, Colin, who kind of had a different feel. He was nervous through the whole thing. He was very fidgety.

Um, he was sentenced to death 50 minutes after his attorney had pleaded for his life. Um, however, after the judge pronounced a sentence, he smiled broadly and said, thanks judge before he was like crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, they're awful and they're crazy. Um, so although trials were quick, convictions were quick, sentencing was quick. Um, carrying out the sentences would not be so quick as it never is.

It never is with, you know, definitely cases, yeah, especially when they've been sentenced to death. They're never fast. I think the average now was like 12 years that a person will spend on the throw. Yeah.

And that's, that's being generous. Yeah, not as low. Yeah. With the low amount of time.

Wow. Um, so the judge had already set the execution dates initially for February 15th in 1974. Um, he felt that since all days had died together, so should their killers. Um, but it was kind of just a formality because there were mandatory, um, and automatic appeals that had to happen.

Right. Still do. Absolutely. And as they should, as they should, yes, you shouldn't be doing all these things.

Um, so over the next 10 years, there were multitudes of appeals filed, um, by, you know, defense also by the defendants themselves. There were new dates scheduled and then postponed. However, all the appeals and motions were denied. Um, however, until another motion on 1979 was granted, which would lead to retrials.

Full blown retrials. Why in 1988? So we'll talk about that. Okay.

Um, they were retried because of the fact that they were not due to the media sensation of the case where it was a bias. There was bias. There was bias in the case. I mean, you can't really deny it.

Well, and, and you know, they came back so fast with guilty verdict. You have jurors who already have, they know about this crime. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's true. It is true.

I mean, they should have another trial, even though I think they're horrible monsters. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Um, so we'll kind of talk through a little bit of that, but we're kind of going timeline here.

So in 1975, Billy, who was the only one not under the death sentence because of his age, he was returned to Maryland to stay in trial for the kidnapping and murder of Richard Wayne Miller. Um, I guess they didn't try the others because they were already under the death penalty. So like, what's the point? Right.

Um, I mean, obviously for the family, you want that to happen. Um, but it's because they're like, we're going to get somebody. Yeah. Get the kid who got the 220 years sentences.

Yep. Um, so he was charged as a accomplice. He was found guilty in sentence to 60 years, which would run concurrent to his 40 years sentence at 100 years. So he's never getting out.

Well concurrently. So serve together. Oh, so he could potentially serve 50 years before being eligible for parole. So but he's not, I mean, like 50 years.

Well, but he was only 15. So that still makes him 65. So he'll come out with Medicare. Yep.

Um, so what kind of kind of interesting segue? Um, Carl's mother actually said that he should be executed. What? Well, yep, do it.

Um, she stated that she didn't want her sons, which would have been Isaac and Wayne or Carl Azics and Wayne. And I don't think she was Billy's mother. Oh, maybe I don't know. I don't know who was mother.

I don't know who was a lot of stuff. Yeah, a lot of stuff. Um, she didn't want them around if they were going to be killing people. I appreciate that.

All right. Yeah. Um, on the morning of July 28th and 1980, there were four inmates on Georgia State's prison death row that escaped. They walked out of the prison during the early morning shift change.

Three of them were caught by July 30th of two days. And the fourth was discovered. Marjorie. It came out with a mastermind behind the escape.

What's Carl? Of course it was. Um, he had been planning the escape since 1974. So for like six years, um, he'd gotten a garden vault to help and he had arranged for five men to be transferred to his cell block to, you know, there's a lot of going on.

So he'd have, you know, time to move on. Um, the fifth guy who was supposed to be with all of them got cold feet and decided he did not want to escape. Yeah. And he'd been transferred from Reedsville to Georgia Diagnostic and Classification Center in Jackson, Georgia, which is a few hours, a few or a few hours before they broke free.

So he was like, no, I'm not going to do this. I'm going on my transfer. Um, Carl's only message to the three escapees who were, you know, when they returned to Reedsville was that he would quote, like to kick their asses for being out that long and not getting a piece and wasting somebody. So Carl didn't escape himself.

No, he just helped these other ones escape. He's like, I like escaping places. And isn't this fun to help America's youth? Yes.

I do. And all the things and they stupidly wasted their time. They didn't off somebody. Gosh.

So on December 26th in 1985, a guard at the Georgia Classification and Diagnostic Center in Jackson, Georgia, which I think is like a, a valuation center or something. But Carl was there. Um, discovered that the entire portion of the ventilation system in Carl's cell had been cut through. Carl was like this close, so so close to have being able to escape.

Wow. He had gone through multiple layers of screens and metal backings and the plumbing and everything behind the cell. All that was left was a single set of thin steel bars in the side light before he could have gotten out. Wow.

And he was planning to do this with three other inmates. Wow. So obviously didn't the legend continues. He did not succeed.

All right. So on summer night, 1985, there was a three judge panel, which is part of the 11th circuit of the United States Court of Appeals, which is where you would send all of your death penalty appeals to. Right. They review it.

They review it. And they decided that due to the quote inflammatory and prejudicial pre-child publicity that Carl, Wayne and George could not have received air trials and that each of them should have ingrained a change of venue and that the error in doing not doing that was an unconstitutional judicial one, which I don't think is incorrect. Right. It just feels icky.

Yep. So the convictions and decimals of Carl, Wayne and George were set aside despite the overwhelming evidence and all three were granted new trials. And where would this be held? So they were going to move the trials to, I can't ever say this, Decatur.

Decatur. Georgia is right outside Atlanta. Yeah. So they moved in there.

Carl's new trial began on January 3rd, 1988 on January 25th, 1988 around 6.45 p.m. The jury reached a verdict after deliberating for little over two hours. They found Carl guilty on all six counts. They didn't deliberate for another hour and 52 minutes and upheld the dissonance for Carl.

Wow. So life in prison. No, they upheld it. Sorry.

Yes. So you were going to go back. Yeah. Um, Wayne's retrial, you know, happened as well.

Um, he, when he was at Verreal trial, he was only 41, but he had lost all of his teeth. His hair was white and his body was pretty much emaciated. So like he was having a rough time. Wow.

Rough time. Um, his attorney blamed Carl saying that he was one of the most manipulative persons you will ever meet and Billy. He blamed Billy as well and said that he was exactly like Carl that he was a killer, a manipulator who cut a deal with the state. Wow.

Um, so he also called in two psychologists to the sand to testify to Carl's psychological makeup and to Wayne's just to be like, Hey, this guy could easily have been manipulated by somebody like Carl and maybe even Laura Q. Yeah. Yeah. Seems things.

Yeah. Um, on April 29th, the case went to the jury. Um, the jury had dinner together before they found Wayne guilty of the potatoes. I think we're going to find him guilty.

Yeah. Yeah. So they found him guilty of the murders. Okay.

Um, on May 11th, following a 35 hour, like 35 straight hours of deliberation. Wow. The jury foreman said word that they were in a deadlock and the jurors were unable to agree on a sentence. The judge was forced to declare a mistrial no Georgia law.

This meant that Wayne would receive a life sentence and be eligible for parole in 15 years. This is 1989 at this point. So 1994 or 2004, 2004 was more for parole. So Georgia's next, um, and up for retrial in 1988.

Um, however, the Georgia general assembly had declared that George was actually, and this is their words back then, mentally retarded. Um, and that since he was, he could not be executed in Georgia. Um, he had been given multiple IQ tests never scored higher than a 68, which met the requirements at the state of the state who judged that people with IQ is lower than 70 to be mentally retarded, which I don't like that word. But that's what the wording was back in right before we had a lot of the Americans with disability act.

Yeah, so on July 14th, 1998, George pled guilty by reason of mental and competency. I'll say to six counts of murder and was sentenced to six consecutive life terms. So he's still in there. Just can't be put to death.

Um, so for the all day family, it just keeps getting worse for them. With the deaths of five of the men of the family, all farmers, the family business couldn't be sustained. Following the murders in 1973, neighbors in Donaldsonville did as much as they could to help, to tend crops, bring them in, but it wasn't feasible for, you know, the community members who had their own farms to do to help run another farm past the first year. So farming equipment was sold off.

So prior to his death, Ned Alday, who was in, you know, getting older, he had dated his property to three of his sons, Jerry, Chester, and Jimmy. He knew that they would never take advantage of him, felt that it was safest way to protect the land. Should anything have happened to him. However, no one could have guessed that, you know, they would all die.

With Ned's death, the property passed to Jerry, Chester, and Jimmy. All of them died with him. Mary officially outlived them because she was killed later in the day. She inherited everything.

Save for, you know, the small plot, right? It went to her wife. There was a small plot that had been set aside for Chester's wife, Barbara. With Mary's death, though, it meant that her heirs would inherit the land, which she would have, right?

And there were, I mean, she didn't have any. So this was 500 plus acres that they had, it went to the state, just sweated and bled for, you know, like this was their land. Ernestee and Alday and Ned's wife had lived there for 40 years, and it was, not hers. It was no longer hers.

The land was sold off in plots. Ernestee was able to keep a small parcel of the land where she built, you know, a house for herself. So, Ernestee and Alday died October of 1998, 1998, which to me, shocking that the grief didn't kill her. So she was a hell of a strong woman.

And you said in the last episode, they married in 1935. So this means she was pretty up there in age. She has one strong lady. She is.

She passed in 1998. She was buried alongside her husband and children in the Spring Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. Less than a year later, in September of 99, her only surviving son in the oldest child, Norman, who'd been serving in the military at the time of the murders, died in Colorado at age 63. He had actually risen to the rank of Command Sergeant Major in the Army, which apparently is high.

So, I mean, but young, still, 63 is pretty young. Yeah, that is young. So, all right, moving on to May 6 of 2003. This was 30 years and one day after escaping for prison in Maryland, Carl's time ran out.

He requested a regular institution tray for his final meal, which was that of pork and macaroni, pinto beans, cabbage, carrot salad, dinner roll, chocolate cake, and free punch. Not a terrible ass meal. No, I need it. He did not, he did not eat it.

He didn't touch it. He was given a lethal injection and pronounced dead at 8 of 7 p.m. No one from Carl's family was present. He was, you know, his attorney was there.

There were two men of stars who witnessed all the all-day family didn't come either. They did. Oh, Carl's family did not. Carl denied making a final statement, but he did request a final prayer to what she reportedly mouthed him in.

Members of the surviving all-day family were present for the execution. This was the first time in Georgia that members of the victims' family were permitted to watch an execution. He became the second condemned inmate to be put to death in Georgia in 2003 and was the 32nd in the U.S. that year.

And he holds at this time held the record of being on death for longer than any other inmate in the U.S. because of all the retrial stuff. Because that means 1974 to 2003. In the years since his execution, he's been connected with the January 1973 shotgun murder of 58-year-old Ann Elder of York County, Pennsylvania.

She met Carl in November 1972 and was killed during a period that Isaac's had escaped from a detention facility. So they figured that he probably killed her. Wow. In 2003, Paige McKeen, who was the granddaughter of Ned and Eriston Alde, and she was the niece of Jerry, Mary, Jimmy, and Chester.

She was instrumental in passing the Alde family bill, which makes it mandatory for state officials to contact the families of victims in death penalty cases twice a year. To get updates. I appreciate that. Prior to the passing of the bill, it was very difficult for crime victims to get any information about any developments in the case.

And she shares their story to spread awareness for victims of crimes. In 2015, she actually spoke directly with Wayne Coleman about the murders of her family. Really? Don't know if there's any type of transcript of that interview.

I would love to find that. But... Or if she would like to come on this podcast and talk to us more, we would be so honored. What the heck that'd be insane.

But she was really like passionate about this project. On April 4th, 2006, George died of a heart attack in prison. And Reed'sville, Georgia, he was 68. May 4th, 2009, Billy died in Florida where he had relocated.

He was 51. Where he had relocated. So he had gotten out. So he did get out.

Okay. So he's 51 years old. Wayne continues to serve his prison sentence at the Georgia State Prison and reads the bell in Georgia. He is eligible for parole, but he has been denied.

Good. And he's currently 74 years old. Good. Or at the time his article is written.

And that's that. This is a... This is so good. I'm so glad you found this.

So that's, you know, there was trials and more trials and appeals and everything was... I think that's really interesting to me. I'm not like to hear about the trials. And some people aren't as interested in it.

But I think this was so crazy. This spree, I mean, you know, these guys were in jail initially for reasons that just weren't that huge. And then they go and they become murderers. Yeah, it's like what happened.

Yeah, what happened on that? And it also does go back to my mother saying, she was like, she was who you hang out with wisely. I think there's several books been written about this case. And I think movies as well.

Oh my gosh. So definitely. And this, of course, is article from Medium by Loria Johnston, where I got all this information from. It was really great too.

I just feel so like, oh, so like cold and icy and not just because it's cold in here, but also just the whole vibe of the story. It's so dark and intense. But I do like that there was some justice in the end of that. So sure.

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Sam and Arm. I like it. I like it a lot. Well, thank you guys so much and catch us next week.

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