Annabelle the Doll

Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. We are back. Hello.

Hello. Haley, I am of the understanding that we have been receiving some emails. Some good ones. You know, non-threatening ones for you.

I don't have a threatening email in a minute. I like that. I'm feeling a little neglected. No, we are not encouraging that.

But tell us about the email that you got recently. Sorry, I didn't use the popcorn. Oh, so by the way, I went to Sam's Club and spent over $300. But anyway, I found this bag of like salty and sweet like caramel and popcorn thing.

Yeah, it is amazing. It's so good. It's huge. And it was like 4.98.

Great deal. And I thought, Haley and I need this. There are 29 servings in this bag. And we will take all of them this evening, which means that we can probably get like three uses out of this bag.

It's amazing. Right? Yeah. So I'll save it for next week.

And then we can come back and enjoy it as well. Okay. It's really good. So I want to read this email because we've been getting this email.

But it kind of confuses me because the name that pops up in the email is not the name that's in the email. So I'm just going to read the email. Gotcha. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. It says, Hey, y'all, I had to email you and tell you I'm not an alien and anesthesiologist or a robot. Unfortunately, which I mean, she's listened well.

Just a squishy human. Also same. My name's Tess. I was born in Lincoln County, Wyoming.

And now through a series of impulsive decision, I'm not going to say exactly where she lives lives in Kentucky. Thanks. From the affection I discussed, you two joked about quote, young love in the preview of the alien abduction episode. I have to tell you that I moved across the country for a boy as one with an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex does.

Yeah, I'm going to get it. I understand. I never thought I'd love a place more than the T-ton mountains. But over the course of the two years, I've lived here.

I've fallen in love with Appalachia. First off, I'm a little bit of a weirdo and I have a morbid curiosity with true crime. Same. We say in unison.

I've been doing research into true crime related to Eastern Kentucky as of late. And I absolutely love that you guys cover cases that are more obscure. This is going to sound disrespectful. Sorry, it does.

But I get bored of the bigger cases being overdone. Which like, I hear that. I hear that. I especially love the really old 1800s cases.

Nice. Thank you. There's a more favorite too. I currently live in an actual haunted house and I've had lots of ghostly experiences living there.

I've only listened up to the alien abduction episode of 2021 so far. Sorry, you apologize. So I have no idea if you guys are still accepting fan stories or not. Always.

Always. Let me know if you are. We are letting you know now. Always.

Always. I also wanted to ask that either of you knew the story of Screaming Rock in Not County, Kentucky. And I looked it up and I can't find anything on it. Interesting.

But she said her boyfriend's cousin recently told me the history by the folklore slash ghost story. It happened on the road that used to be a main highway between the best Kentucky and Brithitt County. Brithitt? Brithitt?

I don't know. Kentucky haven't been able to find anything on it. Neither have I because I tried. So if any of y'all know, let us know.

Anyway, I love your podcast. I also have a plan of how to hide a body. So Haley isn't alone. We could trade tips one murderer to another.

I'm just kidding. That was her not me. She's just kidding. Have a wonderful day.

Tess. Well, Tess assuming that you're another killer. That's awesome. Yeah.

That is really cool. Yeah. And she's sent us several episodes. I won't read them all.

But maybe there's should wait. And so maybe we could do some. Yeah. Okay.

So now I'm confused. Okay. So Tess or okay. So the name of the email is Mariah.

But then she signed this one is Tess. And then there's another one signed is Reggie. Because it says Reggie again. Tess Mariah says Reggie, can you please tell us what's going on?

So are you really? Are you really? Are you really a murder? What's going on?

What's going on? I worry. I have some concern. I'm just a little sketched out that maybe she is a robot could be or an anesthesiologist.

A yeah. First was was a human anesthesiologist. But now a robot. I get that.

I never seen it. Yeah. So that's that. But I just thought her email is really funny.

Especially if it's if she's not a real person or an alien or an alien coming down to steal our brains. Yeah. I mean, I believe she's real. I just don't understand exactly what's happening with the email signatures.

But if you'll let us know, that'd be great. Okay. I just wanted to share. So big shout out to you, you know, Mariah Tess, Reggie.

Reggie. Yeah. I hope it's Reggie. Yeah.

I'm just making my day. Okay. So Haley, I have a question. When you were growing up, did you ever have any dolls?

Dolls? Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you elaborate on that?

Well, I was just curious. I mean, I did. I did. I had Barbies and I had maybe dolls.

I had some baby dolls. I had one and I had two. I don't know. One and maybe two.

Maybe two. Yeah. I had baby dolls had Barbie dolls had like little and plastic. Came in like a little house that like folded up and you unfolded it.

Oh, cute. Like a poly, a little more big, bigger, bigger, a little more big. Yeah. Little more big.

Yeah. Okay. Like jumbo poly pocket. Yes.

So I had it all named Catherine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my mom had this doll and it still I think under her bed.

It's like three feet tall. A walking doll. Yeah. I think it's huge.

And anytime I'm at her house and I have to like go look for her cats or something because they hide and I'm like, yeah, my anxiety won't let me leave until I see all of them. Yeah. Her just the same way. So I'll get it honest.

But I like, I don't know if it's still there, but you too, I would like lift the bed skirt and like look under there and its face was just in the plastic staring out from under the bed. Because she wants to keep it in good shape. Yeah. I mean, like it's an old, I don't know when she got it.

I mean, had to be like when she was a kid. Yeah. And it could even be maybe her sister's doll. Yeah, it could be older.

Yeah. So yeah, it's pretty pretty impressive. I would say. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. I had a doll named Catherine. Eventually her head popped off.

Oh, you know, she was one of those kinds. And my mother tells me that I sometimes just carried around the head. Okay. Super creepy.

Or carried around her body. Without the head. Should we unpack that a little bit? I think we should.

I mean, it's gonna take a long time. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not.

It's a long D. R. E. M.

D. R. Maybe I should do some tapping. I'm not really sure.

Anyway, yeah, that's interesting. But today we're gonna talk about a doll. Okay. I know that sounds like a weird story, but we're not talking about just any doll.

We're gonna talk about a haunted doll. I know where that was going. I was hoping it was not going a headless doll. I was going with sex doll.

Would I do that in a well, I'm maybe in hatred. Maybe. That's Holly and Haley. Yeah.

So maybe that's kind of a really funny story about a sex doll. I don't think I can share it on this platform. Tell it to me after. Okay.

I like it. All right. We're headed to Monroe, Connecticut. And I know you'll are like, wait a minute.

Aren't we supposed to be an Appalachia? Well, Connecticut is a state where the Appalachian Mountains fall. Yeah, stretches even farther past. It goes to Maine.

Yeah. So this state, we really haven't traveled to, but I'm super excited. My BFF is from Connecticut. Oh, and I love how you spell that.

It's like, connect. Connect it. I'll have it. Connect.

I got. So before we dive into the story, I want to give credit to an ATI article written about this case in 2021 by Katie Serena. Yeah. All right.

So we're going to the Occult Museum. Oh, can we go? I would freaking love to. Let's do it.

I'm going to start planning that trip. We have to plan a lot of trips. Okay. We're going.

All right. So this museum is filled with odd contraptions and supposedly haunted memorabilia. Sounds like a place we're going 100%. So this museum was the brainchild of Ed and Lorraine Warren, who became famous for their work in the paranormal world that started in the 50s.

Okay. Hang on. This is permanently closed. What?

Why? I don't know. I'm troubled by this. Hang on.

It closed because of over zoning violations. We'll screw the state of Connecticut. I feel like there was a way to reopen this. Let's move it somewhere.

Okay. We'll keep going. We'll keep doing some research. All right.

So Ed and Lorraine were very strict Catholics who believed in the peaceful tranquility of heaven, but also the damnation of hell as all good Catholics. Exactly. And you know, probably some purgatory in the middle there. They felt that God represented good, but believed that demons and demonic forces were placed on earth by the devil.

I mean, sure. In 1952, the Warrens founded the New England Society for Psychic Resource, otherwise known as NEPSPR in ESPR. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Do do do do do do.

Do do do do. All right. The Warrens and their team would go on to investigate paranormal activity and demonic energies. These investigations included the haunting and Connecticut house, where a big exorcism took place, the Amniville house, she talked about or what we've heard about.

And the paring family haunting that would go on to be famously depicted in the movie, the Conjuring. I cannot do any haunting, haunting movies, especially like real, like I can't do. I actually, there was a documentary on the haunting in Connecticut scared the crap out of me. I can do the documentary style ones, but I can't do like, if it's like a true documentary of it, I can do that, but I can't do the like over like that kind of like the like the Conjuring style like jump scared.

Yes. Great. I just can't. I can't.

I can't. I can't. No, no, no, no, no. So the Warrens work has been highly regarded and their help has been sought out by many families who were plagued with otherworldly energies who were causing havoc in their lives, their homes, everything.

Yeah. So in the 50s, the Warrens opened the Occult Museum that displayed some of the items said to be haunted or overtaken by demonic forces. It is permanently closed. Maybe it was a demonic fortification.

That's zoning. Zoning. Zoning issues, rap bastards. So things in the museum include a Ouija board, lamps, and other artifacts.

But one of the most peculiar items in this creepy museum is a doll by the name of Annabelle. Oh, yeah. Annabelle is kept in a glass case with a crucifix above it. There is a sign on the case that Warrens quote, positively do not open.

Okay. So, you know, there's your warning. Okay. Hayley, you ready to learn about Annabelle and her history?

How she got into the room with you? Sure. The crucifix alone kind of does it. But then the sign helps.

So it does. It's a lot of fear that goes on with this doll. All right. In 1970, a young nurse by the name of Donna, I've also seen her noted as Deidra elsewhere.

But for the most part, I'm going to call her Donna. All right. Yeah. Well, it's a little easier.

So Donna was celebrating her 28th birthday. And for her birthday, her mother gave her a brand new Raggedy Ann doll with red yarn for hair that's gift. Kind of a not choice for a 28 year old. It is.

I think I got a Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy, the boy version. Yes. I got both of them when I was six or seven. Yeah.

My brother and I had it when we were like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, a choice for a 28 year old nurse. Oh, yep. On. But who are we to say?

Right. Anyway, so Donna would put the doll on the living room couch. And so every morning before she left for work, you know, had the doll there, when she would return, however, she would find the doll in a different position than she put her in. Like, I was bumped over?

Yeah. So normally the doll was placed like on her back sitting upwards, you know, like on the couch, like you would almost sit on a couch. She would often be found upon return on her side with her legs crossed, which is not, you know, situation. She put her in.

Exactly. So Donna thought, ha, ha, ha, my roommate, Angie is playing a trick on me. Angie was also a fellow nurse. And she thought, she's trying to screw with me.

So she confronted Angie and she said, Angie, what is the deal? And Angie said, what are you talking about? Why would I mess with her doll? And also, again, why do you have a doll?

I was trying to get busy with my boyfriend and you had your damn doll there and it's cute. Exactly. Exactly. So obviously she's like, okay, so not you.

That's kind of weird. And then, but you know, you chalk it up to maybe I didn't remember how I put her, you know, whatever. So eventually, though the doll begins moving from one room to another. And again, Angie said, I didn't move your doll.

So when you set up the entire thing? I think so. You just burn it down. We're about to, they should have because we're about to learn a little bit more about the doll.

Donna continued to place the doll in the living room couch, but often found her on her bed with the door closed. Okay, so listen, even if you think the roommate is doing it, when weird shit like that starts happening, we all just laugh that off. We get freaked out. We don't say, how funny, Angie's doing this.

And she's like, dude, I'm not doing it. If I'm Angie, I'm out of there. I am gone. I'm breaking loose.

I'm moving out. Gone with whoever boy I hooked up with last week. We're moving in. We're now connected.

Exactly for life. I'm gone. Absolutely. Or I'm setting fire to the place.

Or at least the doll. At least the doll. Yeah. If I'm Donna, Daedra.

One of the D's. I'm getting rid of that thing. Yeah. Why would you keep that in your home?

I would not. Like even if it was a gift, what from a grandmother, is that what they said? Her mom? Sorry, mom.

I'm burning your gift on fire. Exactly. It was weird creepy stuff. Exactly.

This would have been solved so fast. Oh, 100%. But we wouldn't have this story. We wouldn't.

But it anchors me. Okay, proceed. But I mean, would the doll have like risen from the flames? I mean, who knows?

Who knows? But we got to try. We got to do something here because it's getting scary. So one day Donna and Angie came home to find parchment paper all over their apartments.

They were notes written on each one of the papers. Some of the wording said things like, quote, help me. Gone. So I opened the door.

I'm like, already, well, that's enough of that. So I didn't like light a match toss it in close the door, walk on out. It seems like, you know, the doll or something, you know, took the parchment paper and wrote on it and put it, you know, there for them to find. Here's a problem.

They didn't have parchment paper in the house. Also, and that like my first thought is not going to be, oh, the doll is doing this. My first thought is we have some creepo stalker living in our walls. Or I would think like maybe, because you know, they probably were renting an apartment.

So maybe the landlord's coming in, screwing with you again, again, saying, I mean, that is true. Like, why wait? Get out. Soon.

The doll began leaking. What appeared to be blood? I was peeing on things or bleeding. Yeah, like the doll is bleeding.

So at that point, you're not saying, I think I need to burn this thing. I need to leave like, we've given you chances here with the parchment paper and all the other things, but now the thing is bleeding. If I'm the doll, I'm getting pissed. So I'm like, I can do all these signs.

Exactly. All these opportunities to turn me to where I came from or set me on fire. Y'all are dense. I get with it.

I don't feel bad for these people. So one day, Donna sleshed your dress boyfriend. His name is Lou. He was staying over and he fell asleep on the couch.

It's idiot. I don't even know how you would feel so calm to sleep. Why are you there? She's probably relayed to you the story, but you fall asleep anyway.

Okay. When he woke up, the doll was facing him and he fell to pain coming from his chest, opened his shirt and found bloody claw marks. Gone. Within a few days, however, the claw marks had disappeared as if they had never been there.

I mean, that is how things feel. Not that quickly. It is the healing process. The claw marks within a day or two?

That's no. I don't know. I don't know. Another article I read said that Lou was awake and had heard rustling through the apartment.

And when he looked around, he found the doll lying face down on the ground, but no one had moved the doll. It had just moved itself. So did Lou just roll over and say, sign or did Lou leave? I think Lou was concerned.

He shared his concerns with Donna, Sleshede, or Drah, and Angie who called a medium in. He's like, you know what? We're dealing with a paranormal here. Let's call in a medium.

That wouldn't be my first go to. My first go to is leave the doll in the apartment and run. Right. I mean, you that is rule number one.

Take what you're wearing to get out. Yep. You don't need any of that stuff. And then you call maybe from a secondary location.

You call the medium and you're like, hey, there's some freak shit going on. Exactly. I got to get up there. You're calling a medium.

You need to call a priest. You need to call a Jewish man. And I don't know who a rabbi. Why are we?

Why are we Jewish? And some whatever of Mr. Wallowitz come down, please. Like, I'm trying to hit all my religions here.

Just a just a Jewish man may not do it. Yeah. I got full rabbi. I need a shaman.

I need a someone with a Torah. Someone with a Torah. I need someone of the Muslim faith. Yes.

Leader of that something. Roll on in. We need everybody. We got to cover all the bases.

Exactly. All of them. Yes, we do. We do.

We need to stage that place. We do. We probably just need to burn it out. Holy water.

We need a lot. We need a lot going on here. We need a lot of good vibes to. And then maybe just a random Jewish man.

And a random Jewish man. If he's available. Come on down. Let him know.

Let him know. Yeah. We'll post it. Yeah.

They didn't listen to Haley. They called in the medium to come into their home that they were still staying out. And the medium said, you know what we need. We need a seance.

I mean, I get it and not everybody can just up and move, but I'm sorry. I'm sitting in my car. I would go back to my mommy's house, the one who bought me the damn doll, but maybe she's got dolls at her house. And who knows?

I don't trust her either. She brings that stuff in. So they held the seance and she the medium told the young women that the doll was possessed with a spirit of a deceased seven year old girl named Annabel Higgins. All right.

All right. Well, Annabelle had apparently been killed and her body was found at the site where the apartment would later be constructed years later. Okay. So maybe mom didn't give her the haunted doll.

The spirit was already there and just yes, exactly. Exactly. So to hold up the doll, the medium claimed that Annabelle was a kind and benevolent spirit who just wanted to be loving care for. So why are you scratching people?

Well, Don and Angie felt badly for the spirit called Annabelle and began holding her and rocking her. Unfortunately, their care was making things worse. You see, the energy of Annabelle was becoming evil and the women wanted to rid their home of her presence because it was unsettling. It took us that long to get to that.

And I'm sorry, but somebody who has clogged your boyfriend, you're now hugging and cuddling and like mommying. I mean, is this like a case of mass hysteria? Like are these people okay mentally? It doesn't say otherwise.

So we'll get into more about the doll. So they called in an Episcopal priest. Oh, the Episcopal forgot about them. Yes.

See, you went Catholic on me. Catholic. You went Catholic. You went random Jewish guy.

I got the rabbi eventually. Exactly. You got there. You got there.

I brought you the Torah. Should have gone to Pyapelian Catholic light. So Father Hagen called his superior Father Cook after assessing the home, Father Cook said, you know what, we need some paranormal experts. So he called and Lorraine Warren.

I mean, when the Episcopalian priest is having to be like, listen, we need some. I can't do whatever this is. So we got to call in the paranormal folks. The Ghostbusters people over here.

When Ghostbusters meet God, nothing can stop them now coming to a theater near you. Oh my God. Ghostbusters and Jesus team up. Hello, my son.

Do do do do do do do do do do do do do come on, just get with it. Yeah. This is a secret. I'm sorry.

I'm not offended. When Jesus meets Ghostbusters. I like it. Magic will happen.

I was clearly it didn't hear. Magic will go away. So the words felt that Donna and Angie, like I said, were making things worse by coddling Annabelle and giving her their sympathy. Yeah.

They thought that there was a demonic force in search of a human host within Annabelle. So it wasn't this benevolent, oh, little girl spirit. The Warrens talked about this case and stated quote spirits do not possess intimate, inanimate objects like houses or toys. I hope they don't possess intimate objects.

Ananimate or intimate. Falls are cool. I'm sure I'm sure it is. I thought to win in some really dark places and none of them were demonic.

All of them were extremely inappropriately central. All right. All right. So they can't possess houses or toys, but they possess people.

So an inhumane or inhuman spirit can attach itself to a place or an object. And this is what occurred in the Annabelle case. This spirit manipulated the doll and created the illusion of it being alive in order to get recognition. So truly the spirit was not looking to stay attached to the doll.

It was looking to possess a human host. Get out there. I'm saying why are we still here? Why are we still here?

This makes no sense. Leave the damn apartment. Yeah, get out. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Take your sex doll and beat it. All right. It's all right.

If you're slow, the audience was maybe with me. I don't know. All right. Oh my God.

We talked about Jesus and Jewish people in sex dolls all in this episode. And activation. This is a email waiting to happen. And I'm down for it.

So ready for it. We'll read it around. Sorry. There was other.

I was going to say that's what she said. All right. Okay. Here we go.

Immediately. The Warrens documented what they believe were signs of demonic possession, including things like teleportation with a doll moving on its own materialization with the like parchment paper note thing that was happening. And again, the parchment paper didn't even have any apartment. So how did that happen?

And their quote Mark of the Beast with the claw marks on lose chest. All right, Lou. So quickly they ordered an exorcism of the apartment to be performed by that Episcopalian priest. He's back in father cook.

father cook back in back. So they took Annabelle out of the apartment during the exorcism because remember again, it wasn't the doll necessarily. They thought that it was the demon in the apartment. Exactly.

Right. Took Annabelle. So they moved Annabelle to her final resting place in the occult museum in the hopes that, you know, demonic rain would finally end anyway following Annabelle's removal from Donna and Angie's apartment. The Warrens documented several experiences that they had with the doll.

Yeah. So they took her and the exorcism began. They buckled Annabelle into the back seat of their car. Oh my God.

And decided, you know what, if she were to decide that she was going to cause mischief while we're driving, maybe we shouldn't take the highway. So they decided let's take like some back roads because God forbid she like drove us into a semi or something. I want to listen. I want to take my chances on an interstate where there are lots of people.

I don't want to take anybody else out. But like if I have to crash into the barrier or something, I'd like somebody to get me out of there. Exactly. I'm not trying to go down some dark windy path.

I agree. I actually agree with you. This sounds like a terrible idea. I agree.

So as they were driving through the back roads, obviously, Mrs. Warren claimed that the brakes stalled or failed multiple times resulting in near disastrous collisions and crashes. Mrs. Warren claimed that as soon as her husband pulled holy water from his bag and doused it on the doll, the problem of the breaks disappeared and everything was fine.

Why didn't we burn the doll? Where's the random Jewish man? Where's the I feel like if we hadn't have trusted Episcopalians, whoa, paranormal investigators and just gone with a rabbi, maybe this would have turned out different. I mean, nothing against Episcopalians.

Really? Are you going to boil clearly the circumcision? Your approach did not help the situation. Maybe we should punt that over to another religion.

Let them give a go. Yeah. Say, what's the worst that could happen? We gave it our best.

And clearly, it's okay. It's okay to say we didn't succeed. Yeah, that maybe this this was not for us. Nope.

And we're just going to let the next religion know that. Batter up. Just yeah, just rotation. Exactly.

Yeah. You can hop back at the end of the line and try to wait a minute. But let's let somebody know. It's a little bit more likely.

You just split. So yeah, they took back roads and had issues with the breaks until a little Ed pulled out his holy water and then suddenly everything's fine. Well, so maybe the Episcopalians are wrong to something that the holy water works. Could be.

All right. I'm back to you. So remember the Warrens themselves are Catholic. Ooh.

There you are. There you are. Okay. I'm too Catholic now.

All right. So they finally get back home and the Warrens place the doll in Ed's study. His little library. Why would you put it in your house?

Well, I guess you were like, I don't know where to put it. So they put her in there. Burn it. Again, I guess they for themselves wanted to see like is it really, you know, so they reported that the doll levitated and begin moving throughout the house.

Absolutely not. Even when they placed it in the locked office of an outer building, like almost like a shed of swords outside their house, they claimed that she would turn up inside the house. No. Like, yeah.

Finally, they were like, okay, we have got to do something with her. We're going to lock her up up for good. Why don't burn her still don't know. But I guess maybe if it's like she's burned, she could still, you know, maybe I would just I mean demons like fire.

So that would probably make them happy. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. All right.

So I don't know, rain had a specially made glass and wood case that they had inscribed the Lord's Prayer on and St. Michael's Prayer. So for the rest of Ed's life, he would periodically say a prayer over the case, ensuring that this like evil spirit remained trapped in this case. And since being locked up, Annabelle the doll hasn't moved.

And it's alleged that her spirit has found ways, however, to reach out to the earthly plane. One time a priest was visiting the museum and he picked up Annabelle and discounted her like believe her demonic abilities was like, nah, like this is BS. Like it's just a damn doll, basically. Ed was like, no, no, no, no, no, like don't mock her.

Like don't mock the power. Like Annabelle is filled with demonic energy here. The priest was young and was like, ha, you're hilarious. Like that shit ain't real on his way home.

The priest was involved in a near fatal car crash that completely totaled his brand new car. He also claimed that he saw Annabelle in his rearview mirror right before the accident. Okay, I have questions. All right.

So they're saying we're gonna back up. Okay. They were saying that the demon was in the house and had just channelled through Annabelle. So the whole point was to take her out and rid the demon from the house.

So when did the demon get back in the doll? So I guess they thought if we remove the doll, there's nowhere for the spirit to cling to that it just will exercise it. It just went with it. Yeah.

So I think that they thought, oh, well, exercise the house, but actually it went with the doll. Okay. Yeah. So it didn't end up working.

I guess they thought it's either inside the home or it's inside the doll. So if we take the doll out of the equation and leave it within the home, we'll exercise the home and everything will be fine. The only thing is when they took the doll out, it went with the doll. So their exorcism proved futile because it was with the doll.

Yeah. So creepy. Anyway, years later, another visitor was like tapping on the glass of Annabelle's case and laughed at how silly and stupid people were to believe in the story. As he was driving home, he reportedly lost control of his motorcycle, crashed, headlong into a tree and was killed instantly.

And his girlfriend who was on the back of the motorcycle like barely survived. Oh my God. So yeah, maybe not. Yeah.

Don't. Don't. Apparently at the time of the accident, the couple had been laughing about the Annabelle doll. I mean, that's also hard to do on a motorcycle though.

Like, can you hear me? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'm not, I'm not laughing at the doll or just crediting the doll.

What I am doing, though, is saying that the people who allowed this thing in their home are idiots. Or scientists who are looking for don't put demons in your house. I agree. That's why I rarely invite Haley here.

Yeah. You're lovely. You're welcome. So over the years, Ed and Lorraine continued to tell these tales about the Annabelle doll and all of her powers.

And however, the issue is that none of the stories could be co-operated. Right, of course. Exactly. The names of the young priests, the motorcyclists were never really divulged.

Neither Donna, AKA, Didra, Angie, like the two nurses. They never came forward with their story. Neither Father Cook or Father Hagan appeared to mention this in their exorcisms or ever of her. So we don't know.

It would have appeared that, and in Lorraine's word of any of this, like we're not really sure if that took place, but they talked about it nonstop. Well, they were into all kinds of stuff. Like, they were there the people you call it, like the Ghostbusters. Hardcore.