Battle of the R's: Two Legal Marketers Debating OATMEAL and KANYE?! | Ft. Ryan Macris and Ron Latz

Is justice just another line item on a spreadsheet? Will Google allow you to have a castle? If these questions don't make sense or sound interesting- you are in the right place! Welcome to another episode of Devil’s Advocate, where the only thing hotter than the debates are the takes themselves! Hosted by Bobby and Andrew, this special installment—“Battle of the R’s”—brings together marketing pros Ryan Makris (Founder of Very Decent Marketer) and Ron Latz (Fractional CMO, LegalFenix) for a high-stakes marketing twist on our classic lawyer showdown. This episode spins the Wheel of Misfortune and careens through a gauntlet of controversial questions, from whether sex work and marijuana should be legal, to the perils and perks of AI in personal injury law and the impact of non-lawyer ownership in the legal world. But as always, there’s a devilish twist: our guests must argue for the OPPOSITE of what they actually believe! Expect hot debates on tough topics: Should you separate the artist from their art? Is bidding on a competitor’s name in Google Ads fair game or marketing malice? Along the way, wild hypotheticals, laugh-out-loud analogies, and a dash of absurdity keep things entertaining. If you’re ready for sharp wit, strong opinions, and the wackiest metal band brainstorm you’ve ever heard, grab your pitchfork and join us in the courtroom from hell. Let the depravity commence! This episode of Devil's Advocate is brought you by MeanPug, the legal marketing agency for law firms, and produced by Reignite Media. Ryan Macris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-makris/ Ron Latz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronlatz/