Becoming a 201 Church

Season 2 kicks off with Pastor Craig and Pastor Marty sitting down for one of the most honest, hopeful conversations we’ve had yet. From fresh snowfall and fresh starts to rededication moments (and even a nose-job story), this episode sets the tone for a new year of depth, substance, and expectancy.Together, they look back at “2025 Wrapped” and dream toward 2026, asking what it really means for our church to grow from “101 to 201.” They unpack why many church plants stall out, what it looks like to cultivate true vocational calling, and how to move beyond simply offering “relevant messages” into something more—something authentic, Spirit-led, and rooted.Pastor Craig and Pastor Marty dive into the tension of being “deep and wide,” exploring a church culture that is both word and spirit… mystic and liturgy… sacrament and supernatural. They talk churn, comfort, disruption, and the kind of significance that doesn’t always look like “taking hills.”Let’s become a 201 church together.