Bitcoin, AI, and the Credit Air Pocket with Michael Tanguma episode artwork

EPISODE · Apr 27, 2026 · 1H 14M

Bitcoin, AI, and the Credit Air Pocket with Michael Tanguma

from Onramp Bitcoin Media · host Onramp Bitcoin

Originally aired on Joe Consorti's "Over the Horizon" podcast.Watch the full episode on Joe's channel.Michael Tanguma joins Joe Consorti to break down the launch of Onramp Finance, the macro setup heading into the next leg of Bitcoin's run, and why custody remains the most underappreciated risk in the entire digital asset stack. The conversation covers the institutional groundwork being laid across Wall Street, the case against digital credit products marketed to retail, and how AI plus Bitcoin are converging into the most asymmetric business opportunity of this cycle.Over the Horizon: https://www.youtube.com/@JoinHorizonJoe Consorti on X: https://x.com/JoeConsortiMichael Tanguma on X: https://x.com/MTangumaOnramp Finance: https://onrampbitcoin.com/finance00:00 — What's behind the rally04:17 — Institutional groundwork falling into place11:31 — ETFs as the on-ramp to MIC15:30 — Why custody is existential for Bitcoin19:36 — How MIC works24:47 — Announcing Onramp Finance33:45 — Why everyone is converging on this architecture44:44 — Stretch and the digital credit problem53:26 — The custody question nobody asks about DATs55:05 — AI, credit air pockets, and the Treasury market1:06:08 — Bitcoin + AI as the asymmetric opportunity1:12:19 — Closing thoughtsTopics CoveredThe macro setup heading into the back half of 2026, including Morgan Stanley's MSBT launch, Charles Schwab opening Bitcoin trading, Goldman's premium income ETF as a trial balloon, the Iran conflict's impact on commodity settlement, and Hank Paulson's call for a Treasury demand backstop.The Onramp Finance launch — a unified platform combining a cash-earning account paying up to 5%, the lowest-cost Bitcoin brokerage, an earn card with up to 1.5% rewards, IRAs, lending, and spot gold exposure through Argo with optional physical delivery from the Royal Canadian Mint. Built on Stripe-powered settlement infrastructure, with the Genesis founding cohort capped at 210 members.Why multi-institution custody is the inevitable end state for serious Bitcoin holders, the limits of single-custodian ETF structures, and the case that DATs holding billions across three custodians without addressing custody-layer risk are building on a faulty premise.A direct take on Stretch and the digital credit category — why retail-driven preferreds priced at marginal spreads over real inflation are not compensating holders for the risk being taken.The convergence of Bitcoin and AI as the two defining technologies of the next decade, and why bootstrapped Bitcoin-denominated businesses leveraging AI tooling have the structural advantage over fiat-funded incumbents carrying bureaucratic overhead.

Originally aired on Joe Consorti's "Over the Horizon" podcast.Watch the full episode on Joe's channel.Michael Tanguma joins Joe Consorti to break down the launch of Onramp Finance, the macro setup heading into the next leg of Bitcoin's run, and why custody remains the most underappreciated risk in the entire digital asset stack. The conversation covers the institutional groundwork being laid across Wall Street, the case against digital credit products marketed to retail, and how AI plus Bitcoin are converging into the most asymmetric business opportunity of this cycle.Over the Horizon: https://www.youtube.com/@JoinHorizonJoe Consorti on X: https://x.com/JoeConsortiMichael Tanguma on X: https://x.com/MTangumaOnramp Finance: https://onrampbitcoin.com/finance00:00 — What's behind the rally04:17 — Institutional groundwork falling into place11:31 — ETFs as the on-ramp to MIC15:30 — Why custody is existential for Bitcoin19:36 — How MIC works24:47 — Announcing Onramp Finance33:45 — Why everyone is converging on this architecture44:44 — Stretch and the digital credit problem53:26 — The custody question nobody asks about DATs55:05 — AI, credit air pockets, and the Treasury market1:06:08 — Bitcoin + AI as the asymmetric opportunity1:12:19 — Closing thoughtsTopics CoveredThe macro setup heading into the back half of 2026, including Morgan Stanley's MSBT launch, Charles Schwab opening Bitcoin trading, Goldman's premium income ETF as a trial balloon, the Iran conflict's impact on commodity settlement, and Hank Paulson's call for a Treasury demand backstop.The Onramp Finance launch — a unified platform combining a cash-earning account paying up to 5%, the lowest-cost Bitcoin brokerage, an earn card with up to 1.5% rewards, IRAs, lending, and spot gold exposure through Argo with optional physical delivery from the Royal Canadian Mint. Built on Stripe-powered settlement infrastructure, with the Genesis founding cohort capped at 210 members.Why multi-institution custody is the inevitable end state for serious Bitcoin holders, the limits of single-custodian ETF structures, and the case that DATs holding billions across three custodians without addressing custody-layer risk are building on a faulty premise.A direct take on Stretch and the digital credit category — why retail-driven preferreds priced at marginal spreads over real inflation are not compensating holders for the risk being taken.The convergence of Bitcoin and AI as the two defining technologies of the next decade, and why bootstrapped Bitcoin-denominated businesses leveraging AI tooling have the structural advantage over fiat-funded incumbents carrying bureaucratic overhead.

NOW PLAYING

Bitcoin, AI, and the Credit Air Pocket with Michael Tanguma

0:00 1:14:11

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

MG Show MG Show The MG Show, hosted by Jeffrey Pedersen and Shannon Townsend, is a leading alternative media platform dedicated to uncovering the truth behind today’s most pressing political issues. Launched in 2019, the show has grown exponentially, offering unfiltered insights, comprehensive research, and real-time analysis. With a commitment to independent journalism and factual integrity, the MG Show empowers its audience with knowledge and encourages active participation in the political discourse. PodQuesting Dwight J Randolph- WolfShield Media PodQuesting: -By WolfShield Media and Dwight J RandolphJoin us on an exciting journey to master the world of fiction podcasting! At PodQuesting, we document our quest to improve and innovate, sharing valuable insights, strategies, and behind-the-scenes tips along the way. Whether you're an experienced podcaster or just starting your first show, our podcast is your go-to resource for everything podcasting.Discover practical advice, creative techniques, and lessons from our own experiences as we explore the ever-evolving podcasting landscape. Ready to level up your skills and embark on this adventure with us? Tune in and join the quest!Have questions or feedback? Reach out to us at [email protected] and visit our website:WolfShield.Media LIGHTS, CAMERA, SMILE! Creatives Club Media Lights, Camera, Smile, is a podcast for anyone with a dream to share something with the world, out of the overflow of themselves - be it their mind, their heart, their personalities, and much more. Each of us are alive in this moment in time, with an innate ability to have ideas and create various things to benefit both ourselves and the people around us for a reason, and here, you will find the encouragement, the inspiration, and the motivation to do just that. Hosted by Cicily, founder of Creatives Club, she dives into various topics surrounding creativity and business. Exploring entrepreneurship for creatives in a corporate reality, sharing tips and tricks in a media centered company, answering questions regarding what a creative actually is are just a few of the things discussed on this podcast. Be encouraged to create for yourself as Cicily gets vulnerable by pivoting the camera to herself for the first time.To submit questions for Cicily to answer, or have her address certain t The Protocol CoinDesk Dive deep into the blockchain realm with The Protocol Podcast, where we unravel the intricate technologies powering cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Join us on a journey through the labyrinthine layers of blockchain innovation, as tech-savvy developers sculpt the future of finance and the decentralized web. Led by CoinDesk's adept journalists, we dissect the freshest news and project revelations, demystifying the mechanics and significance of it all for those hungry to grasp the inner workings of this dynamic and rapidly evolving industry.Meet your hosts: Brad Keoun, Sam Kessler, and Margaux Nijkerk…and tune in, techies!

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Onramp Bitcoin Media?

This episode is 1 hour and 14 minutes long.

When was this Onramp Bitcoin Media episode published?

This episode was published on April 27, 2026.

What is this episode about?

Originally aired on Joe Consorti's "Over the Horizon" podcast.Watch the full episode on Joe's channel.Michael Tanguma joins Joe Consorti to break down the launch of Onramp Finance, the macro setup heading into the next leg of Bitcoin's run, and why...

Can I download this Onramp Bitcoin Media episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!