Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries, Tales from Appalachia. We're back. Welcome back everybody.
Why hello there. You know, we're thinking about something. What were you thinking about? Well, what are we going to do like in the future?
Like, what if we just decide like, we're done? We're not going to podcast anymore. Like, what will we do with our lives? I haven't missed you.
Let's be honest. I don't, you know, I'm not saying that we never see each other, but I mean, I think that it would be much more rare. Yeah, I mean, we do live pretty far apart. And like, it's hard.
Us investing in our friendship is also investing in this podcast. Yeah, I would still come out and hang out with you and talk about murder. Really? Even if we didn't podcast it?
I really like that. Good. I mean, we did it before. We did.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My couch in my apartment is a lot of action.
Of podcasting. Of murder. Dissection. That's podcast murder.
That's not. Oh god. First, it was dirty. And I was like, oh, that's where she's going.
And then it was, no, it's murder. It's real dirty. So I saw my couch. Actually, you got it from a colleague of ours.
I did a fur-co-worker. Yeah. Her husband carried it down the hill to my house. Highly likely then.
It's above his home. Above his home. Yeah. And he carried it above his home.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. He must be very strong.
He was like, I was fully ready to assist in this journey. And he just like, he manhandled it. I like that. That's great.
Well, he was in the military. Yeah, that's true. So he was very strong. Yeah.
I was able to get rid of the pregnancy couch. Where did that go? Oh, to the dumpster. Okay.
Was it time? It was time. It was comfortable though. I will say.
I felt like it was very worn in. Yeah. That's why it was the pregnancy couch because you sunk apparently because my mom, I think, had that couch when she was pregnant and my aunt had it. Apparently it was really nice when you had to be pregnant belly because it sunk so much that your pregnant belly would lay on the lip of the couch.
So it takes some weight off. I didn't know if it was the couch where you got pregnant. No. No.
Do you know where you were conceived? I don't. I don't. And I don't want to know.
Probably that information. Probably the room that you ended up sleeping in later. I don't want to think about it. You ever think about like, what if, you know how people name their children like after the places they were conceived like cities?
Like Phoenix. No. Never heard of anybody doing that ever. Yes.
People have done that. Like, oh, yes. You've never heard that? No.
Yes. Like, traumatizing. We went off to London and got pregnant, you know, during our trip. And so we named the baby London.
That's traumatic. I'm just saying people do that. No. I did not do that.
No. I didn't name my child after a, you know, like some, you know, he wasn't conceived. Excuse me. He wasn't conceived of the super eight.
It's fancy. It's a dozen. No. Motel six.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Stop it from the super eight.
I guess. Yeah. Or down. Rotide in.
Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Depends.
Interesting. But no, I was actually thinking, like, you know, based on my parents, I would be named like, C. Lee Poster P. Dick or something.
That being my name. Yeah. No. Yeah.
I just prefer not to think about those things. Listen, I lived in the house with them. I know they, they did things and I don't, I don't care for it. I don't approve of it.
They were married, but I don't approve of it. But yeah, no, I would never, never heard a thing. Never saw anything. Here's, here's what I'm going to say about your parents.
I can't even know. Imagine. No. One time your dad's got to be kind of like, sweet, lovey to your mom.
And I was just so taken off. I know. Cause they're not that couple. No.
And I didn't know what to do about it. It was disconcerting. It's very, it freaks me out. Yeah.
When they're nice to each other. Yeah. I didn't know what to do with that. I mean, they're like not mean to each other.
No, no, but they like cohabitate. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just like normal.
Yeah. It's not like, okay, you get over you. Yeah. You know, like, Hey, did you take the trash out?
Yeah. No, no, I didn't. I forgot. Like that kind of love.
Yeah. I mean, I, like they're very much love each other. Absolutely. They've been together for, you know, almost 30 years.
But it is. Yeah. I get that. But they are not like a lovey dovey couple.
They're not a PDA couple. No, like I barely even saw my parents kiss when I was again. I will be honest with you. I don't like PDA couples.
I'm not a good child. I think it's sweet when you, you know, love each other and that kind of thing. But if you're like all over each other, I'm going to throw up. Yeah.
Same. It's just a lot. Like I think that, you know, you can do things, you can love each other and be sweet and kind. But I, you know, I want to see your baby get made.
No, no, no, no, no. Thanks. No. So, you know, it's a pass on that.
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, when my son Manhattan, um, oh my gosh, little, little piscat away. Get over here, little piscat away.
Oh my goodness. Little Wayne, so I read it here. It's a grill. She loves it here.
She comes here willingly. We are back at my house. My dad, I drove here. It was worth the trip.
She told me. Yeah. She said, I can't wait to get there. I got a good salad.
Thank you. I got some doughy pizza. Okay. We have a problem Houston.
My oven is not working. So I had a raw pizza for dinner. I also ate two pieces of it. So I don't really complain that much.
I did eat it. So I, they, the grocery store had a sale on the Dijorno and you know, I mean, two for $10. Yeah, I'm picking it up. So I was excited.
I made a, I've been craving a Greek salad. I don't know what's the matter with me, but I'm like, I must have Greek salad. So I made this Greek salad. It was really good.
And I said, Hey, Lee, we might have a problem because I think my stove is on the threads. And sure enough, I thought it was raw. It was Joey. It was so limp.
It just kind of blew right over. It was like, it was literally a ball of dough. And I said, I'm going to put mine in the microwave. She's like, I'm good.
I'm going to give it a whirl. Then she put it in the microwave. It was actually much better. It did.
The microwave did help. I don't know if it just kind of like singed the edge enough. I mean, it was still dough. It was still dough, but it was a little warmer.
I don't even know what to say about it, which was a real bummer because I felt like that pizza could have been good. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't bad. I ate two pieces. It is true.
So if you would like to donate to the Holly has to go buy your ass a new oven fund. Oh, yeah. That would be amazing. Yeah.
You can, you know, email, Haley, you know, it was a urban mo. Yeah. You know, start like subscribing to Patreon. If you don't already will accept any form of a thing.
Yes. So I was super bombs now. I'm going to have to go buy a, you know, it's always something. It is.
It is always something. And like this is the season because like every February for some reason, something in my house will break. Yeah. Dryers, washers, like I was actually just telling somebody like, just, you know, weeks before a week before my son was born, my dryer blew up.
So I had to go buy a new dryer, which was perfect because I didn't know that I would be having a baby that quickly, like he was born early. So it was like, Oh my gosh, perfect timing. I can, you know, dry all these baby clothes. So can you imagine you come off the hospital and your dryers exploded?
Oh my gosh. So when I did come home from the hospital, my friend had been there and she had a key to my house. And she's, she still has actually now. But she had brought her daughter's baby stuff.
And she filled my house with it that we could barely walk in because there's crap everywhere. She just like laid it everywhere. It was like, Oh, here's a bassinet. Oh, here's a baby swing.
Oh, you're going to need this. Oh, you need all this. And so because I was ready, he had a crib, you know, all those things, but like those other baby essentials that like new, new board essentials that are handy like a rock and play and all those kinds of things. And like they were all over my house.
Well, like you hadn't really even had the baby shower. No, no, no, I wanted that point. Oh, we, you know, and then COVID happened. I never had one.
Right. But you know, like, yeah, all the things that you were prepping to do didn't end up happening and yet he resolved. I attended my own baby shower. Did you really hold were you?
30? Yeah. Oh, wow. They're like little Haley will like this.
Yeah. And some people that came apparently I guess didn't know that I'd already been born. Oh, so they were like, oh, same as that. They're like, oh, it's this baby.
Like that we're here for. They're like, oh, huh, weird. Yeah. Well, I was all early.
I guess this boy's outfit doesn't work. Can we do some time in May? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I was doing that. How early were you? Um, couple of weeks, I think.
Okay. Yeah. I don't really know how early that is interesting because I was technically like listed as a pre-me. Well, I never had to go to the NICU or anything.
Yeah, my centimeter. I was supposed like they were ready for me because my heart rate dropped really bad. Let's do this. And then I was, you know, born in it all worked out.
So yeah, the NICU team was like, peace out. I could see Haley and like, I don't need you. I got this came out. I was like, we're all good.
Bye. Actually, you were handling a crisis in the next room. They were like, uh, we've got somebody over here who stopped breathing. Haley's like, I know CPR.
I got you. And, you know, new born. I was an ugly baby. I've seen my baby pictures.
I was like, you know, some people have a cute baby. Like your baby was cute. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
He was like a cute newborn. Yes. I looked like an alien. I looked like a sumo wrestler.
Fine. Yeah. Like there's pictures of me. I was like, well, let's see how cute.
I'm like, no, I look like a freaking alien. Wait, of course, you know, your mother thinks you're beautiful and cute. Right. But you look at, I did the same thing because my mom got the hospital pictures and I was like, beat red.
Oh, yeah. Just eyes closed. Yes. Scrunched up.
Yes. Red. All kinds of ugly. Yes.
Really ugly. Yes. That's a very ugly newborn. Well, and I fully anticipated that my son would be ugly because most babies are.
Yeah, most new words are ugly and he was not taking out beautiful. Like he was perfect. He wasn't super red. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And I appreciate that. That's validating because you know, a mother is usually biased.
Yeah. No, he was. He was not. He was cute.
I thought he was pretty cute too. It's huge feet. He did make his feet. I don't know the first thing I noticed about him.
Me too. But I hold him. I was like, daddy's copy of feet. I know.
He has huge feet. But you know, what's funny is he's flat footed. So it makes him look like he has big feet, but actually is such tiny little feet now. He really does.
Like he is almost five years old and he is in like a size 10 shoe, which is small for his age. And a lot of other kids are in like way bigger sizes. So interesting. He has little feet.
He's so cute. Sometimes they're stinky feet though. Oh, we call them man clobbers. Yeah.
The clops. The clops. Because he used to say he's got giant man clobbers. So you'll hear him like, he'll say, well, I got to put these shoes on my clops.
You know, and like, now he's got the lingo, which is funny. Okay. I haven't got this week. I'm taking you to the portal to hell.
I can't wait. Oh, I feel like I go there often. I, you know, I feel like you do too. Sometimes at high school feels that way.
I can see that. Like a portal to hell. You might need your mic a little closer. Like a portal to hell.
There you go. Wow. Now it's really close. We're gonna be talking about Shwadi balls in a minute.
All right. We actually this portal to hell is also known as Bobby Mackie's music house. How fun for music worlds. I enjoy a good music world and portal to hell.
Maybe a highway to hell. A little ACDC. Oh, hi. Nice.
Have you ever heard of sure? Okay. Just check. No.
So our three begins in Wilder. I love his wilder. Wilder Kentucky. That's actually a name that was on my baby name list.
Wilder. Yeah, I like it. I'm glad we went with what we went with. I like that there's we like you had a choice.
Because I was so involved. I mean, I was there. Not at the actual birth. No.
I was there very quickly after. I texted and said no dinner tonight. I was at dinner with our friends. Well, the birth was occurring.
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. But you came after.
I did. I offered to bring you things because it all happened very quickly. Everybody was bringing me stuff is great. Yeah.
It's amazing. Like you have phone charger or like anything? Yeah. I had to get all the same.
Yeah. I had to get underwear. Yeah. So the stuff.
So anyway, but Wilder Kentucky is the place and this is a nightclub slash honky-tonk. That's fun. That is so fun. I'm interested.
Bobby Mackie's music world. So it's early spring 2024 and this aging building is being torn down to make way for a new Bobby Mackie's music house. That feels like a bad idea. Well, I mean, you know, sometimes it happens.
It's like, okay, it's dilapidated. Like it's costing more money to keep it. Well, then I think if there's a portal to attached to the building, maybe just don't don't mess with it. Yeah.
Like maybe relocate across the street. Mm hmm. Yeah. Just leave it there and let the ghosts overtake.
Yeah. Just let it like, just let it return to nature. Exactly. Slowly over time.
It will just sink into the portal. Eventually. That's right. I would think.
I don't know. I don't know much about portals. Do you though? No.
Oh. Okay. Okay. I don't know.
I don't know your life. I don't know. All right. So Bobby Mackie's has been the go-to honky-tonk with booze and live music for decades.
But it's time to bid farewell to this Kentucky landmark. So I know. So Bobby Mackie's isn't just a hot spot for patrons who want to shake their booties and wet their whistles. This is also a place where the undead come to terrorize the living.
Do taxes get done in this snapshot? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Just making sure.
There are back rooms. Do taxes? Oh yeah. Maybe I need to go work there.
You know what I'm saying? Instead of the super eight. Well, I don't even know if the portal to hell would have you. I think they would.
I think it would be like coming home. It'd be like coming. All right. And going.
I'm just going to get better taxes. Oh my god. You can't. It's very important.
All right. So Bobby Mackie is said to be the most haunted place in Kentucky. Featuring big claim. I mean, yeah.
It features various bands, artists, boot stop-in and the portal to hell. Great. Yeah. I want to know more about the portal.
Yeah. So get. Can I do the portal? Okay.
Take me there. Wow. Sometimes you can take yourself on your own to the portal. Sometimes you need help.
And sometimes you have to be assisted. I'm ready. Well, that's what she said. Okay.
According to legend, you can boot scoot boogie your way to the paranormal vortex that allows ghosts the freedom to move from one world to another. Nice. Yeah. It's no secret that Bobby Mackie's is haunted.
I mean, the owners actually have signs that you walk in that read the following quote warning to our patrons. This establishment is reported to be haunted. Management is not responsible and cannot be held liable for any actions of any ghosts or spirits on these premises and quote. I think that's probably a pretty good disclaimer to have in most establishments.
I like that. I'm going to put one of those up in my home. I appreciate the truthfulness. Yeah.
They don't want to get sued for kind of misbehavior of a road ghost. I like it. I like that too. And I think you should put that up in your house.
I will. Yeah. And also, Holly, go on. Just.
Nope. You're done. Sorry, Holly. You can't come into.
You can't. In addition to the sign, there are old newspaper clippings adorning the walls of the entryway that tell of murders, you know, on and near the premises really makes you feel a little warm and fuzzy and safe, doesn't it? Sure does. I just would you see that and be like turned on or turned off?
I don't know if I would use the term turned on. I don't be intrigued. Like I'm not sure that I would you know, you know, you know, have the, you know, where it's not like an April 15th, where you're just super excited. Right.
Taxi. Yeah. Try to help you. Thank you.
You're welcome. Yeah. No, it's it's more of a like a more like a yeah, like I'm intrigued. I want to know more like almost there, but not quite right.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel that. Okay.
Okay. Okay. So you could say, you know, I got lit on whiskey and went honky-tongued and got tormented by some murdered ghost. I mean, that could be a t-shirt.
That's a lot of words for a t-shirt or a country song or a sounds like a whiskey when honky-tongued. I got a tall minute. That's a murdered ghost. Why does that kind of give Elvis?
Okay. I could wear a mug. Okay. So let me give you a little history.
Yeah. Do that. Okay. So Bobby Mackies was originally built in the 1850s and was used as an animal slaughter house and meat packing plant.
Fun. Yeah. I mean, what a life sacrifice. Absolutely.
Over the years, the building changed hands. And at one point in the 1920s, it served as a small roadside motel. Oh, there it is. There it is.
There we go. There it is. Can you imagine booking a room where a cow was slaughtered? I feel like you could.
Yeah. Yeah. I was at the travel in last week. Yeah.
You went taxes and some cow was slaughtered next door. Sure it was. Is that primary by smell? Oh, yes.
So the motel was closed at the beginning of the depression and purchased by another individual who turned it into a country club. Like a country club or like a country club? I think like a country club. Okay.
Not like, you know, this is where the rich hang out. Right. Yeah. Got it.
So slaughterhouse country club. Oh, how the tides are turned. Okay. So this country club also had a casino called the Latin Corner that was apparently run by the Cleveland mob.
Okay. Not uncommon for this time period for the mafia to be running these organizations, these like fronts, but really there was a most going on. So by this point in the 30s, prohibition had actually ended around 1933. So it was legal to drink and, you know, do some have some debauchery, but it couldn't really be gambling.
So you still have to have the front. Right. Like, what's the password? We have one of those.
Really? Yeah, it was a gas station. Huh. That's a good front though.
Yeah, they had a gambling operation in the back. Wow. Got rated like three times. That's crazy.
Pretty wild. So they finally sat down your gambling operation. Yeah, that's it. It's still an operating gas station.
Is it really? Yeah. I want to cross from the funeral home. I think I know it.
There's a storage unit place nearby. So felt appropriate. Yeah. Yeah.
Go from one place to the other. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of bounce back and forth.
It's very handy. Yeah. Or the storage unit place. Yeah.
Or that you just kind of make a nice little triangle. Yeah. I like that. So this country club casino was around for about 20 years.
Teng. Yeah. 20 plus years. Wow.
It is theorized that many people were snuffed out by the mafia during this time period. I needed a funeral home across the street. Absolutely. And it was helpful.
Exactly. It was so handy in your town. Yeah. That's great.
Yeah. In fact, the mafia had a back office, a hock see, and people were seen entering but not walking out. Maybe they went on the back door. I don't want to talk about your back door.
Guys, it's close for business. Primarily. No, not an end. All right.
According to legend, there was a trap door that led down to the basement where victims were transferred as not to draw attention inside the casino. It's like a bodyshoot. Pretty much. Yep.
We'll just drop down down. Wow. So this trap door is said to be the entrance point to the portal to help. So wait, was this the trap door in the basement?
Yes. Or was it to the basement? Yeah. I think it's in the basement.
So I think actually you go down these stairs and go into the basement and then then there's a trap door and you can drop the bodies in there. Do you do they then get the bodies out later or do they just leave in there? These are solid questions. I really don't know actually.
I'm going to go leave them there. That would smell. Maybe it's pretty contained, you know. Yeah.
Like oh no, it's just the animal we slaughtered last year. Yeah. Yeah. Huh.
Interesting. So in modern times this office was converted into a men's bathroom and it became Bobby Matthews music world. Yeah. So can you imagine being in like mind in your piece and cues and next to you is like oh not far from the portal to hell.
I mean it's yi waiting to happen. I feel like many men's bathrooms are portals to hell anyway. Have you ever been in one? I made a decision.
Oh my god. Whoa. I made a mistake recently and I had a piece so bad. I just didn't care.
So there was nobody in there. So I went to the men's bathroom and I didn't really realize at the time it was a men's bathroom. So I saw the toilet seat up and pee everywhere and I was like what is happening? And then I realized and I was like this is disgusting.
Yeah. I'm sorry. I have better aim if I tried. Like get it in the toilet.
I don't understand. I don't understand why this is so difficult. And on another side note one time I went to a rest it was an arrest area but it was a gas station. And this is why I'm picky about where I pee.
Yeah. And I went pee. I was a kid and a rat came out of a hole. In the bathroom?
Yes. Wow. There was a big hole. It was just like this crappy gas station.
I just had a pee really hard. And so to this day I am so particular about where I pee. I understand. Yeah.
I'm like I'm all for gender and natural bathrooms. Like I think whatever pee wherever you want. But I think that also needs to come with the expectation that men like I don't want men in my bathroom. Not because they're men but because I pee all over everything.
If you sprinkle when you tinkle clean it up please for the love of pee. Like I have no problem with you know people pee and where they want to pee but do it in the toilet. Exactly. That's my only requirement.
Exactly. Is just get it in the toilet. Exactly. Please for the love of all the tolly.
I just don't understand. Stop being on the floor. Don't try and put it back in your pants if you still have some trickling out. Disgusting.
Yeah. Like I don't get that. Yeah. Yeah.
That's that's another it's another time. Back to our story. Yes. All right.
So the casino also had what was referred to as a safe room. The safe room was where they stored all the money. Oh okay. Yeah.
The safe room features a large round safe made out of metal where guns ammo and cash restored. So. Yeah. Oh absolutely.
And of course tax information. Yeah. That's important. In 1961 the sheriff of Welder was pretty tired of the constant debauchery and bad press that the casino was displaying so it was once and for all shut down.
Like they were really trying to eliminate all this mafia business. So let's discuss some of the people who haunt this here establishment. Okay. All right.
So first we have Johanna who was the daughter of one of the mafia casino owners. Okay. Johanna was a dancer at one of the clubs connected to the casino. Oh okay.
Get it. Yeah. Johanna was in a relationship with a man named Robert Randall and became pregnant out of wedlock. Wow.
Her father was horrified about the pregnancy. I love that someone who's busted kneecaps is like right like that's you put it on a one look that's the scandal. That's the scandal. That's the scandal.
Come on. Bodies down a shoot. You're worried about her shoot? Like come on.
Yeah. That makes no sense. Double standard. Absolutely.
So he didn't like the man that she was messing around with. So he or one of his associates killed him killed Robert Randall. Wow. Yeah.