EPISODE · Oct 13, 2025 · 47 MIN
Burnout, Betrayal, and Survival – Inside the Life of an FBI Undercover Agent
from YOUR CRISIS COACH · host Fredd Carroll
Former FBI undercover agent Scott Payne shares gripping, real-life stories from decades spent infiltrating biker gangs, drug cartels, and extremist groups, revealing the toll of deep cover work on mental health and family life. In this powerful conversation, Scott discusses his near burnout, PTSD, the dangers of the adrenaline-driven “warrior mentality,” and the vital importance of asking for help. He opens up about friendships formed with unlikely people, the ethical challenges of undercover work, and his mission today—speaking, teaching, and helping first responders, veterans, and anyone battling trauma. This raw and honest episode delivers life-saving insights, practical advice, and hope for those feeling there’s no way out. Book Purchase Links Amazon: Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis is available in multiple formats—hardcover, ebook, and audiobook—on Amazon. Apple Books: The ebook version is available on Apple Books, offering a vivid account of Scott Payne’s infiltration of extremist groups. Instagram The audiobook narrated by Scott Payne himself is also available via Apple Books/Audiobooks. Apple https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/... Social Media Links Instagram: Scott Payne is active on Instagram under the handle @scottpaynebigcountry. https://www.instagram.com/scottpayneb... His profile describes him as a New York Times and International Bestselling Author, Retired FBI (Undercover/Tactical/Firearms/Active Shooter Instructor), ALERRT Adjunct Instructor.
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Former FBI undercover agent Scott Payne shares gripping, real-life stories from decades spent infiltrating biker gangs, drug cartels, and extremist groups, revealing the toll of deep cover work on mental health and family life. In this powerful conversation, Scott discusses his near burnout, PTSD, the dangers of the adrenaline-driven “warrior mentality,” and the vital importance of asking for help. He opens up about friendships formed with unlikely people, the ethical challenges of undercover work, and his mission today—speaking, teaching, and helping first responders, veterans, and anyone battling trauma. This raw and honest episode delivers life-saving insights, practical advice, and hope for those feeling there’s no way out. Book Purchase Links Amazon: Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis is available in multiple formats—hardcover, ebook, and audiobook—on Amazon. Apple Books: The ebook version is available on Apple Books, offering a vivid account of Scott Payne’s infiltration of extremist groups. Instagram The audiobook narrated by Scott Payne himself is also available via Apple Books/Audiobooks. Apple https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/... Social Media Links Instagram: Scott Payne is active on Instagram under the handle @scottpaynebigcountry. https://www.instagram.com/scottpayneb... His profile describes him as a New York Times and International Bestselling Author, Retired FBI (Undercover/Tactical/Firearms/Active Shooter Instructor), ALERRT Adjunct Instructor.
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