Wounds of High Control Religion. Processing, Deconstructing while renewing a deeper, richer faith.

- Candid Conversation. Part 2 with Eli Lucas. Unedited. Real talk. Real questions. Honest exploration.- Two guys who met 27 years ago through our common affiliation in the 2x2 church. One a "worker" (minister) and the other a "friend" (member) in the church until the bombshell dropped three years ago, March 23, 2023. This is our second podcast visit. We don’t say everything right. We are just two guys trying to get it right. I hope to do more as I crave candid, real conversation that asks hard questions and explores uncomfortable truths. Without that, we remain stagnant and the cycle of abuse, control, and trauma continues.