EPISODE · Mar 10, 2020 · 1H 8M
Celeste Headlee on Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving
from The Better Show · host March Rogers, Ian Mikutel, Celeste Headlee, Darren Austin
Show NotesTo purchase Celeste’s new book visit https://amzn.to/2PSSZ4X2:45 — Ian welcomes back Celeste to The Better Show.4:14 — Why slowing down and learning to sometimes “do nothing” is a important to our individual health and well-being.8:20 — Ian asks whether the idea of overworking is a cultural phenomenon or if it is just a western trait.10:10 — We learn about the “hedonic treadmill” and how this adaptation of human psychology affects our behaviors towards work, money, and time.12:30 —Celeste shares the story of how she came to a turning point with her work-life balance and how being out of balance deeply affected her health and happiness.18:00 — How the things we do to save time end up costing us time in the long run.19:18 — How the invention of the steam engine completely transformed the way we think about (and value) time.21:21 — If we’ve adopted all these time saving techniques and technologies, why aren’t we working fewer hours each week compared to how we worked 50 years ago?22:54 — Celeste shares things we can do to begin to recapture our time and increase the quality of our lives.23:32 — Why digital communication tends not to save us time.26:20 — Ian asks whether we have to shun technology if we are going to recapture the quality of our lives.28:20 — How multitasking can actually do cognitive damage to your brain.31:11 — Why Celeste makes it a point to throw more parties.32:00 — How the changes that Celeste made in her life really constituted a lifestyle change and how she introduced the change with her friends.34:00—Are we obsessed with researching decisions to death at the expense of actually making the decision?39:50 — The one thing that Celeste recommends people start with in order to make progress on this aspect of their life: do a time audit to see how you are REALLY spending your time.43:01 — Ian asks Darren and March to share their impressions of the interview with Celeste and Darren draws a parallel between Celeste’s concept of “doing nothing” and the Slow Food Movement.44:12 — March reflects on the difference between the tool and the implementation of the tool.47:20 — Ian reflects on how he wants more meaning and intention in how he spends his time.49:16 — Darren shares how Celeste’s observation of the hedonic treadmill seemed, to him, like a very deep truth about the human condition.50:05 — March offers the suggestion of a well-being audit to get a sense for what things in life cause you happiness and unhappiness.52:14 — Ian shares how Celeste’s insights on the history were helpful in giving him an idea of how different generations have different perspectives on their values.55:22 — March reflects on the value of questioning our cultural assumptions about time equaling money.59:47 — The team ends on a note of optimism about the future and our ability to use Celeste’s observations to improve our future.Mentions📖 Book: Do Nothing by Celeste Headlee
What this episode covers
To purchase Celeste’s new book, visit https://amzn.to/2PSSZ4X. This week we interview award-winning journalist and friend of The Better Show, Celeste Headlee, about her upcoming new book "Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, & Underliving". We were fortunate to have a conversation with Celeste back in 2018 on the heels of her award-winning TED talk "10 ways to have a better conversation". In this episode we discuss her new book and her mission to institute a global shift in our thinking so we can stop sabotaging our well-being, put work aside, and start living instead of just "doing".
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