Well hi everyone and welcome to Nelly Moth Podcast, it's Nelly Podcast was divided by her northern nerds, I am Wani Hossan. And I am the other horse paul, it's not Halloween yet, but it's Autumn Ween now I think, it's Vicky Ween. Yeah, Summer Ween! Everything ween now, yes, and we are being invaded tonight, almost like a hostile takeover by the beautiful women of the wank, so we have Becca and the feisty Sarah.
Feisty, ooh. How are you, ladies? How are you, is this anything? I'm fueled by cuffing tonight.
Ah, I'm good, I'm good. How about you? How about you? How about you, how are you surviving?
This is hot weekend. I'm a fat lad sitting in his pants like you don't need to say, so it's all good. Fair enough. Yes.
So tonight's episode, it's going to be interesting. It's going to be something. I don't know, do we have to put trigger wands out the horn? Yes, just in case.
Just because there will be topics and tones that we might talk about, that people might find upsetting, but not too much, because it's just basically stuff that we watched as kids or heard about as kids or talk about as kids, that focused on a little bit. Is that a good description? Yeah, I'll do this disclaimer. Yes.
But I kind of just mark off the whole trigger warning thing. No, go. Be prepared. We're going to talk about things like my, you know, for a minute.
Go for a minute. Okay, I'll do this disclaimer because I feel like we need to start unraveling this. So everything's going to be discussed in today's episode. There's our opinions and our opinions on it.
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Keep it kind. And keep the toxic behavior out of notism. Well said. Thank you.
Now I'd like to start this episode just by saying a nice little phrase there. So I think it's quite apt as well. So I'm submitting this episode for the approval of the Midnight Society for the Nurdio North podcast crew. So yes, just a little reference there.
Are you afraid of the dark? I'm sure we'll talk about some point as well, because that was one of the scariest TV shows as a kid. But yes, so as the title states, it's childhood trauma, but not as you know it's we're not talking about childhood trauma. When we're slapped about or in a population.
Oh, it's not going down that level. Like no one's going to need therapy or anything like that. Well, this is our therapy. So don't worry.
Yeah, it's our kind of form of therapy. But kind of like in the pop culture sense of trauma, and I think it comes right off the back of a conversation we had when we did the 80s episode of my childhood trauma and we're like, hey, we could do something with this. So what I thought would do with this as well, we can tell personal stories, which I think will be hilarious, because for some reason people like to hear me chewing rocks and sitting in piss, but that wasn't trauma for me. I forgot about the cinemas.
It's in the piss. It's tradition. Every podcast is mentioned. This is law.
Yeah, so books, computer games, TV shows, movies, anything that kind of like sit with you or didn't sit right with you. I think it'll be interesting. I have a conversation, but one thing I wanted to have a conversation as well, and I think it'll be interesting to have a conversation about, because I do think there is a huge difference now to watch people watch or what people allow their children to watch compared to what we were allowed to watch back in the ages. Now, I know there's some slight age differences.
Like we've got ladies and one guys just a smidgen younger than us. That means Sammy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because it's one who's exactly the same age as me. And she always likes to remind me because I think she's younger than us.
Sarah Peach. She looks younger in there. It's not hell. And she always likes to remind us.
I don't know. With the same age. And not a different viewpoint as well, just because I think it might be interesting topic, because me and Sammy have very very very, so we don't really. We don't think we have to be like kids.
Yeah. And we've got two parents with us. And if their viewpoints now have changed since having little ones compared to what we watch. Very much.
Because I can remember watching the Simpsons from a very very young age. And my time human has this gummy Simpsons in the last week to the point that we binge watched a few. And I, um, Oh, yeah. I'm not the one who worries because we are not so I had to cover it right.
Or I was like, It's a very much like that. Yeah. I thought I just sometimes just just how it can get. So yeah, what I watched as a child, I wouldn't allow my child to watch now.
I wonder why that is though. Is it just a change in the times as a change in not to say that the world wasn't scary back in the 80s, but it seems to be a lot scarier now. But is that because information and media is so accessible compared to what it was back then? Like, Things were a lot harder to come by.
And all the governments doing the best to put like facial recognition stuff to start with what I'm going to porn and stuff now. But again, back then, to see if I'm going to go into a bush and find a porno mug and see what was lying about. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to do you really had to, if you want to, you know, scavenge a hunt and treasure hunt and stuff. You really had to work for that media. Mm hmm. We basically had to go to, we had to organise sleepovers at one particular person's house.
Yeah. He's all the sister would go and get the horror movies. Yep. We had that.
I have that exact person. She's right around the corner. How I watched Ghost Party on. Yeah.
You don't watch a watch that regardless of what age horrible film. That's the thing though, because we've talked multiple times on the set of the podcast, like of horror films, movies we watched, like, not just like, there's been movies where I've had a sneaker watch, like the band movie era and stuff like that, where there was a lot of movies that I watched with me parents permission because I don't know if they just didn't think it would walk out my tiny little mind. Like Scream Always Is, they're always playing the movies, all the way in the TV shows. But now, and I think it's interesting to see in The Simpsons, because I remember The Simpsons being the first cartoon where there was a tree house of horror that came with a warning before the episode for kids.
This is enough for kids to watch and stuff. I thought, that's an interesting take now. And again, I know I don't use words like the S word, like, snorfleic or I'm definitely not going to use the W word. But now with, would you think it's more kids or a little bit more successful or sensitive to certain things?
I know my nephew, he had to be, he's got to be never watched this, but he had to be taken out with the pictures during Harry Potter because he got too scared. Because of the toys and stuff in Harry Potter. I don't know because I think about the childhood trauma thing. We're talking about things that were actually made for kids as well at the time.
Like a lot of Disney is seriously trauma based. And they were based for like, they were like, not just you, they were you, see, which is the lowest of the law really. But I'm finding that some movies will be like, if you look at it's something like an action movie or something. They're lowering the age limits for swearing and stuff like that.
And like, you could have a little bit more violence, like punching people and you could see some like blood redrawn and stuff like that. And it's that those things used to be an 18 when I were younger, like 15 and 12 now. Yeah. So I think it can walk both ways depending on the type of movie you're talking about.
Yeah. And I think it's interesting to talk about like with the written system as well. Because rightly or wrongly, when I was a kid, like back in my or good old years. What was the written system?
I mean, we were kids. When we were kids. The written system was more of a guide. It was more of, it wasn't just like, oh, this is an 18.
No one on the 18 should watch this. It was like, potentially this has been out of certain stuff in. You might not want someone on the 18. I remember turning it a two came out.
It was a 15 and they were letting under 15s in as long as the parents allowed them. And again, that wouldn't happen now. If you didn't punch your ID, like to get into a 12, you couldn't get into a 12. But it feels like the written systems are now more enforced than the were back then.
Yeah. No, I was saying, because obviously even with like 12A films, you have to have an adult with you. Yeah. Yeah.
And I can remember going to a 12 film when I was, you know, roughly around 11. And I was allowed in. But you wouldn't have that now because you have to have got to have that with you. And it's really interesting because I don't necessarily think kids are more susceptible to what I'm trying to say.
It's a technical. That's a different thing. I just think because there is so much information on them, I think that's kind of what it is. Yeah.
Yeah. What in conventions a few years ago and have a few horror artwork out there, it was crazy how many kids were coming up and no one who Pennywise was. And you know, it was, it was weird. And I remember one of my friends actually messaging it.
And her daughter was like, seven, eight at the time and said, how scary is it for an eight year old now? I'm not the person to ask this. I don't have children. I always, I mean, nephew once, because my nephew was, he loves horror.
And he, I remember when we watched Scream, he figured it out before, he was so clever that he figured it all out before we even finished. And when we finished the film, he was looking through my list. Like my David Easonie went, the exorcist now is getting mad. I am not being held responsible for them for the nightmares.
I know that for sure. Well, I don't know a lot when it comes to kids, but I know I am not being held responsible for that. So no, no, you're not watching the emphasis. I'd start with that kind of conversation.
I think it's an interesting tip and point, I'd think just to see the different viewpoints as well. So again, when we said we were going to do this episode, what, like when I asked you to come on, what was the first thing that jumped in your mind? That when you think of childhood trauma, like what book, what thing kind of jumps out of you, the more something? Yes.
My immediate one was Paul's going to clear the scene from the never end in story. Right. Well, I'm not going to play it. Just the one that's not going to get played.
But let's relive it. Is this the one that's always? That's the thing is right. When I was younger, it was 100% the one with the horse.
Well, I rewatched it a couple of years ago, and I've actually thought of another one that if I recognized like what was actually happening, what was being said without being said, it traumatized me as well. So it's not just our tasks like dying in the swamp. It's at the near the end where a tree is approaching the, the castle and you've got the big rock man sitting outside and he is, it's much more trauma than what a kid could feasibly take in. It's not just what happens.
It's what he says. Thank you. It looks like big, good, strong hands. Don't they?
Yeah. Now think about what's happened leading up to this. The rough man was trying to keep all of the man with the snail with the other little man. He was trying to keep all of his friends and protect them from the nothing, which is strong.
Rock man's could not protect them. And he is sitting there in absolute horror and guilt and sadness because he could not have his strong hands keep all of his friends. I think we should have done this podcast right now. Two sets.
No, I mean, in the, in the swamp of sadness already. Oh my God. It's something that might have gone over your head. Did you just think, oh, he's a rock man.
Yeah, he's had it strong. Like when you were a kid, but like, I was thinking about it earlier and I'm going, oh, crap. There's so much in that movie, though. Like, like, not just like the sad parts in it, we're due cause trauma, but like, they're just like the look, the tone, like the design, everything is there to build, to give you that kind of like nightmare or like horror aesthetics as well.
But in essence, it is a kid's film. It's based on a kid's book, per se, shall we say it? Written by an adult. Let's remember that.
Yeah. I think of it as like the kids journey through the process of grief. Yeah. He's like, he's facing the death of somebody at first.
So like, obviously his mum dies and he's working his way through it as the movie goes on. You know, he's got the darkness of the horse dying and everything kind of like gets destroyed and everything breaks down and moves it. But then he comes through the other side and he's rebuilding it from scratch and coming through the grief. Mm hmm.
I've watched this recently. It's been a lot about grief and handling and it's crazy. Everyone's different perception of how grief is handled with people and certain circumstances. It's been quite interesting to follow it over recently.
That one would never have put grief in that category with never in a story because I just want that to finish as soon as it started. But it's a lot more than that. But again, I can understand that as a kid, I don't think I would basically not sit with a child watching that now. Oh, no.
Because it's a lot of wonder, but there's a lot of stuff that even the characters will like are frightening, like even the friendly ones like the snail looks into the back creature. Batman, that's not the Batman, but he is quite frightening. I think if you talk to anyone from our website, they've talked about a film. There's certain ones that will always come in.
But I think the Netheran and Story would always be like kind of top of that list. What about you Becca? See, when you mentioned this, my brain went instantly to the collective trauma that we all have from finding a destination with the Laurie, you know, the Laurie and the Bobs. I've never seen this film, but there is a collective trauma that if you're driving and you're driving behind the Laurie, you were a driver.
Have you seen? You need to get around it as well. I've never seen the film. But I mean, you share that.
Yeah. There's a TikTok going around where it's someone driving behind the Laurie with the logs and they're just like, right, that's in this. I know how I'm going out. I think it's such a fascinating one because a lot of the people haven't seen this film, but we all know that it's more of this film.
Yeah. And it is, if I ever drive anywhere and I'm behind a Laurie like this, I get out of it quick. Yeah. The ones that carry the cars.
Yeah. Hells am I driving behind one of them? Well, it's an interesting concept, like the shared trauma and stuff because there's certain beats for certain things that can lead to that, not just the final destination. There's certain songs that can be like a few play bright eyes from what's shipped down.
Literally people would start filming and coming to send us off now. Yeah. There is a Diana Ruff song from Land Before Time, if you put that on that it. I'm in the fetal position and now you're getting out of it until Christ knows when.
Yeah, I can't. There is, it's interesting you mentioned songs because there is a, songs is probably what gets me more than anything because it takes you straight back to that moment. And I was sitting in my parents the other day and my mom's got a playlist. Just, it's a random ass playlist of random songs that my mom loves.
And all of a sudden the Elana Smurrissette um, Secret Track came on. Right. And I just said, try, can you turn that off please? And she just, she didn't even hesitate.
She just went to Lexis Skip. Yeah. And it was the song that was played at my friends funeral and I have never ever listened to it since that day. And I just instantly, like it was 25 years ago.
And I still, like, you know, it's crazy that I kind of went back into that moment just for a second and when I know I don't want to listen to this now, like turn this off in this instant. And so it's interesting to mention songs because I think songs is a massive trigger for me. Yeah. And it's, there's a lot of different things like we'll touch on our kind of connect different people as well.
And even like kind of like stories and stuff like different, different like we as people think because with us all being from different parts, like not parts of you, well, let me get back into different parts of the different areas of the North East as well. Like Sammy comes from the posh area just to own. I come from a mine in village. I come from a pitch village.
Yeah. Well, we all did different things like I grew up in Ria, which was near a chair in all hospital. I've mentioned many a times like it's in all the silence. So as kids, we used to have stories and hear legends of this place.
So it kind of built it up when you when we brought in, brought in and seeing some of the actual stuff there. It made it all too real and too scary. And again, if you make not tonight, you believe in ghosts or anything like that. It's it has an early feeling, but come on back to like what I kind of thought of initially was rolled off.
Like his books and how some of them. Like motherfucker. And Quentin Blake's lawns is like absolutely. Yeah, my friend.
But then you get some stories like Matilda, which are lifting great. Then you get the nightmare fuel that is the witches, which in book form and in movie form, in both cases, terrified the life of me because the book goes into descriptions more like what they did with the kids and how they dealt with the kids and stuff like that. That was that was actually brutal. Like some of the best horror you'll ever read, saving kingdom for off.
But then but then you get the movie and and Jellica Houston. Yeah, what I'm saying to you about the episode, you were scared by it. I was inspired by it. You'll see a theme when it comes to stuff like that.
Yeah, rolled off and get the bin. Like not the person the person would want to talk about the person. Oh, no, I meant just like a storyteller. Oh, was he?
I never really dealt in term. I just I always remember James and the giant peach was it was fun. It was whimsical and it was fun. But the rest of it I was at a BFG was another one, but I love the cartoon.
I really enjoyed the cartoon. Where's the boys go down? Other things I just clicked was a George's and George's magic medicine. Yeah, fuck that.
Charlie the Chocolate Factory? Fuck that. That film, that book, the lot, I hate it. Like I hear such a strong word, but I really dislike it.
Which version of Charlie the Chocolate Factory? All of it. The, the, the, the 60s one. The Gene Wilder.
Yeah. You know, Grandpa got put on the list of worst characters in a movie. He's actually on like lists for it. Like he's a terrible person.
I think I love the other piece of Grandpa George. I think if we're talking about that movie first year, the one scene that even now I start feeling comfortable and wiggling in is the board scene. The board, right. Yeah.
I mean, you're going to play that. Australian, it's pretty uncomfortable. It's the look on his face. Yeah.
Very tense. Yeah. Yeah. I had to keep going back to have a look to see like what was it was it physically like changing or is it just the picture on the background hitting it?
Like right spots. Yeah. It's terrifying. Chris is just giving that Chris.
Chris has just been a great point in the chat. He says, Sonny would would have given Slough on the never in Scott Gobstopper. Would you have given the Gobsto to Slough on, Sonny? No, probably.
Probably. Yeah. Um, sorry, Sammy. So what was the first thing that kind of jumped out for you when we mentioned it?
Um, I think I've already already spoke about this one before, but hey, I'll reiterate it again. Um, my experience of seeing it all goes go to heaven. Because it's fucking horrible. So horrible watching it, horrible when you're in.
I did. I did. I did. Also the idea of it as well.
So the reason why I hate ghost, it's the idea that somebody gets, somebody dies. It's just horrible. Cause they, you know, technically they've gone forever, but they're technically, they are. They've gone forever.
But they then come back and then they have to go again. And it's just the idea of it. For me, it's absolutely horrifying. Um, and obviously that the traumatic experience of having to be physically removed from a cinema because I was historical historical, historical, historical, historical child in, in bits.
I mean, it absolutely, I had to be physically removed from the cinema because I just could not stop crying. Um, yeah. That was, that instantly comes to my head. Well, it's interesting to be the same with the old dogs that I have because from my childhood, all the things that we watched, like cartoons, movie-wise, they didn't give a fuck about animals.
Animals were fair game. Or our, or our, our our feelings, but that matter. They didn't care about our feelings. And the only, it really honestly, it put it such a thing in me that I couldn't, I can't watch any, even now as an adult, I have, you know, that website is absolute godsend.
Like did the dog die because I have to go and check everything. And because if there's any form of animal being killed or mistreated, I'm out. I'm not watching it. And there's one exception to the rule.
Right. Cats and dogs. I love cats and dogs. I'm not gonna lie, it's like up there with my happy films.
Um, I absolutely love that film. Um, I could quote that word for word if needed. I could do a one woman show of cats and dogs, see if anyone calls for it. But it's just interesting how the trip, because now, like, it's very rare that we'll go with the length of herding or killing the animal.
Where during the eighties or even like, earlier if you go in Disney, because Disney didn't do a fuck. Like, if you're an animal, you've got a parent to the parent's gone. That's life now. Without a doubt, you know, when you put this up on, you know, the community, the amount of times that people said, Bambi, what was the other one?
The fox and the hound. Time. Like, I get lamb or lamb or lamb or what's it down? And animals are far from word.
The amount of times that those ones came up because I made a list. Wow, with a clipboard. Oh yeah, I had to do a properly. Um, I went through and looked at what people were doing.
And it was, there was a lot of animals involved in the trauma that people have had. But that's as short as people that we are more sensitive towards, like animals, like, especially probably our range range. But, um, it's interesting you've noted a few of them, because lamb before time, that was the first movie I ever saw at the cinema. Um, how did you think you'd be hyper open or like, you see a dinosaur that died millions of millions years, like, uh, like was little for some other ones.
I don't know what this was called. I was killed by charters. It was a big one. No, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. No, no, I was just making that. I was making them with his name.
I'm sorry. But it was interesting that I didn't get traumatized too much by lamb before time. I quite like that movie. But the one that kind of really upset me as a kid and it set me in the path that I can't watch many dog movies after this was old yellow.
Oh, I'll cheat you on the back. I'll tell you what. Yeah. I remember that one.
Oh, please tell me he's a good boy. He's just a good boy. He's going to be fine. But no, they're talking around the back and we hear the shotgun.
But then they kind of use that premise on other films like we've got, uh, Turner and Hooch. And then we got, um, the one I cannot watch. And this is not each other one. I refuse to watch was Marley and me.
Well, watch it. I don't know. I can't watch it for the same reason. Why would you bring a film out?
It was that being the end? And what is wrong with your brain that you thought that was a good idea? Did we just need more tea as in the world? I've got one as well.
Come on. Oh, yeah, there should be men. They should be great. They should just watch that in the chat.
Yeah. They more. Yeah. I'm probably a bit too old for like to be really offended by that.
Like I thought, like I love Futurama. But I thought that was a nice touch with the whole same old thing. That was, um, that one missed me a little bit. So yeah, maybe a little bit heartless one.
Ruby uses a serious business, kids. So when I, when, when we went to, um, Euro Disney, which obviously is in non-paras now, but the summer at Orban, we went, so first ever big, big big quality. Like this was huge for us. And I remember I haven't got a dover and then get the ferry from dover or rent a cali and my dad telling us on the way down about I wasn't allowed to touch the cats in the streets.
Right. When we were in France, I had to stay away from them because of rabies. Now I was about eight years old and he didn't explain to me what rabies actually was. Right.
So I had this like crazy notion in my head for days where it was giving me nightmares of what rabies was. Because he says, if the bite you're with the scratch yet, that's it. And I'm like, well, that's what? But he would never explain what the what was.
And yeah, my mind just went into overdrive. And I lost my shit in the first two days with that holiday over rabies because of that man. Because I remember there was a film that came out and due to all the other animal films that we watched and things had happened, I was getting so terrified watching it because they had Michael J. Foxlin, one of the dogs.
And all the dog playing a shadow, it was called it was called the Bound, the Incubile Journey. Now, you're watching this movie and you think, if anything happens to these dogs, I am going to ride it. And then 200. I'm going to burn the house down.
And then one of the dogs comes over the hill like Michael J. Fox is like, oh, buddy's got big scars in his face because he was attacked by a pot, you find there was a whole thing. And then the cat comes over because like Sally cat was like, oh, yeah. And then shadows not there.
It's like, you fucking, you better make any comes of them. And he lives across them. You get a little bit of celebration. He's called a driver as well, isn't he?
Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm surprised I didn't burn my house down with the amount of traumatic things I kind of went on because, you know, Disney was a dick. And, you know, dinosaurs dying and dogs just going to heaven. And, oh, thank God for Gorespus, really. Certainly.
Again, if you talk about like main street movies as well, but then go to Gorespus as well. Because that's the traumatized me. That traumatized me. That traumatized me.
I think. As a kid though, watching Gorespus, it's, as I've said before, it has the greatest jumpscare in any movie. Yeah. And when we talked to Lee and Jake earlier in the discord, they mentioned, not Gorespus is one of Gorespus too.
When the bath comes alive with the ooze, that really freaked him out. And that's why Lee doesn't go on the bath now because Lee stinks because he doesn't bath. Because it's really. Okay.
Yeah, Gorespus didn't traumatize me for some reason. I was okay with that. But Michaela, that's a whole different story. The opening scene when it should be fine up until when you saw the ghost, and then she would take herself around out to the stairs, and she would just sit on the bottom stairs and put her fingers in her ears.
Don't know why we used to have it in our living room. We had a door that led to the stairs, but we never used it. We had to always walk around and go around in the dining room, the kitchen, and then to the stairs. No, I'll be away.
But she would sit on the stairs with her hands over her ears. And then I would have to come in either sit with her until it was over, or go and tell her it was finished and she could come back in again. And she hated that bit. Was it any other than Gorespus?
Was it was it any other main street movies that really did affect her as a kid that did have like that? Probably when you watch it back now and you think, oh, I think when you watch it then, because there's another one that really did the sixth sense. Oh, really? Yeah, right that moment when the girl goes in the tent and she's sick.
Oh, me shut button. That part is really traumatised me. But it links into are you afraid of the dark? Because there's an episode where I go still something very similar in one of the episodes, between those two scenes.
It gets me every time, even now, as a 36-year-old, I have to skip those scenes in those episodes and that bill because I can't watch it now. What about you Sarah? I'll probably be going back to one of the ones that happened at the sleepovers. I think it was fun, Tassum II.
So nice kid movie there. Nice kid movie. Yeah, I can't remember the exact movie, but I remember the scene, like I don't know what, it's still in the random Ebrand. It was like a magician was practicing his act and he was on the table and the table was revolving.
And above him there was these dangling swords. And obviously as one fairly was having his hand undone and then when the next one fairly other hand would be undone and he would undo each limb as they're just as they saw to the board. There was some force of force or something, it made them fall early and they got slowly pinned to the table. Nice.
And I saw that as a nine or ten year old and that really stared with me. So it sounds a bit like I got things like that part. Well yeah, what were you, Sammy? I know you're fine.
Everyone was mine. Everyone was mine because I did a whole lot of sort of done it. And the monsters, don't need to hear us. We did.
And I watched that when I was eight years old at the friends house who had all the films that we didn't have and she managed to get a hold of all the way in one's like she's not a CEO. I give her shit for introducing this to this film, which she is the one who got into Elvira. I would never have known who Elvira was at that age if it wasn't for her. And yeah, so we watched Johnny Dearest and for I must have been, no I wouldn't have been Michaela would have been little.
Because I always, for about a month I was sleeping at the bottom of my mom and dad's bed because I could the idea of being in, I didn't even have dolls and what not to start with. But I didn't want to be around anything that could come alive. So I just wanted to be in my mom and dad's room. And then when I realized nothing was happening, like everything was totally fine.
I was like, oh, okay, what's next? What can I watch this little scary next? Because clearly my toys haven't come alive. And I'm still here.
It's okay. And we did an episode of First Horrors on Monsters and that obviously is mine, which means that me and Dan had to watch it. Oh, holy shit, that film is so fucking bad. Like it's the worst.
It's on YouTube if anyone wants to watch it. It's absolutely horrifically bad. Like bad. I won't be watching it because I think there's someone from Star Trek in it.
I will have a look at the cast of it. But dolls come in alive. It's one of my damages as a child because of the next episode. I had to get into the China dolls used to be a fashion in the 90s.
I had to get my dad to remove every single one from my bedroom after watching the episode of Exiles. And I could have only been about eight. So I was watching Exiles as far as I'm not young. But I had to get them removed because I thought these China dolls are very much like your film.
We're going to come alive. Yeah, I've never had baby dolls or anything like that. Consistent on having prams everything. Michaela did.
But I didn't. And what I did have though was a very big doll. She was massive. And she was called George because everything everyone was called George.
And she used to sit in the toy cupboard on a chair in the middle of it. And for some reason, George never used to freakers out. And it must be because I used to dress her in Michaela's clothes. She was that big.
She was absolutely massive. And I used to put her in Michaela's clothes. She never used to freakers out. It was the only doll I ever had until me grandmother thought it was a great idea when she bought Michaela.
No, she didn't buy it. You know what? Well, the Wilson's only used to have the coupons and you would collect them and you would get something. One of them was a porcelain doll.
And she got my sister this one, which Michaela is trying to give away right now. By the way, it looks fucking haunted. So get f***ed that guy. No.
Oh, no. It looks horrible. But yeah, she got Michaela that one and thought it would be a great idea to get me one because it was called Samantha. Right.
F***er never came out of a box. Maybe that's where the trouble for not letting things out the box came from. Potentially. Yeah, she never came.
She sat in that I was like, because I couldn't turn around to my grandmother and be like, why? Why would you do that? Why do you hate me? Why would you do that?
My friend used to have them in our bedroom. She used to have like a whole shelf across like the top of where the ceiling of all these China f***ing dolls are the were horrific. Who thought they were a good idea? I don't know.
But I remember that like one of the mainstream films that probably didn't do it on purpose. He probably didn't realize how scary it was at the time. It was probably between, oh, I'm going to watch this with me, son. It's one of the greatest action movies, adventure movies ever made.
But then there's a partner that becomes one of the most violent graphic scenes in movie history. And it's rid of the last arc when it opened the arc scene. Oh, God, oh yeah. So this was on day time, telly on i-d-v, nothing cut out.
And you see a full melting face and it's more graphic than you would ever see in any sortle. It's literally a sea muscle. It's from a melting face. It's horrific to the point where it turns to dust as well.
So I remember watching that as a kid thinking, oh, this is great. I love it because Indiana Jones is just like everything you want as a kid. It's like goonies for the adults. And you see this melting face and the dawn holds back.
Like you must explain, they're going to have to go away with shit. I'm doing chores. I'm like, what do I want? Well, thank you.
And did no one's parents used to just do the whole handle of the eyes or hand over the ears? And you just accept it. You wouldn't argue with it. You would literally just accept what they were doing.
Because my dad used to do all the time. Train places was one. Oh, any time train places used to put me out. I don't know what the fuck they were seeing.
Thank you. But he would always put my hands over my ears. But I was telling Paul before we came on, most of my trauma comes from me, Dad. Right.
And some of the shit he used to, like, making us convince that me global was real. By turning all the lights out. And making it fly across the room and being able to see him. And the town is always genuine.
It was genuinely real. Like, where was life? And the worst one, he told us that my finger could change the channel on the telly. That's okay.
And all I had to do was point. Oh my God. Did the fucking channel on that? He must have been the first time I've ever had a controller on the telly.
Because he just, he was sitting there doing that. And the whole thing was changed. And the question is, told people about this. And the question is, has Sammy always been this global?
The answer is yes. Yes. It's his fault. Yeah, he used to have the magic.
He used to do that. And the channel would change. But I went to school and told everyone. It's interesting when you get to all those kids and you kind of believed or you kind of think things are going to be more of a problem than actual R type thing.
Yeah, thanks, Dad. How many of us as kids were terrified to go on the beach or go on to somewhere and being scared of quicksand? Oh, yeah. Quicksand was a massive one.
Because in the 80s, that was a big thing, like, it was being scared of. Where has anyone ever found quicks? No, never ever. Yeah.
Never thought of features. Never. Never. But it was always kind of intrigued.
Yeah, my dad was a huge part of my trial. He could tell I had young parents because I was just trying to tell them it. I always remember as well being young and my mom and dad having all their friends over for the thriller from here. Right.
Okay. It was coming out. I think it was channel four. And it's one of those memories where I'm like, did it happen?
But I always remember them like because it got to the point where I was being that much of a dick. My mom had to and my mom was only one of my friends who had a kid. She had to leave us downstairs and I had to watch it with them. So she was like, this is on you kid.
You want to send and watch this? That's on you. I remember like maybe in the early 90s when Michael Jackson's like, when he had an album release or a song release, like you think about music videos now. There are two, three minutes, just a video of like different things happening on the song.
When Michael Jackson released a music video, it was a 15 minute, 20 minute, like almost like a short video. Like thriller was unbelievable, absolutely terrifying at the same time. I remember bad as well. Like, but how was it Wesley Snipes in the video?
Like it's almost like the two two gangers come together. Wasn't it Kyle? What do you see as from Terminator? Yeah.
Yeah, Michael Bean as well. So like then we'll talk about what's interesting. It's really like a thriller scare the life of me, that make up and everything. That goes good.
Yep, that goes great. My best friend was obsessed with it. That she had to watch the making of it before she went to school every morning. Oh, but I would have been best friends of her.
I think this is where my huge affectionate of a zombie film was actually going from. That trauma. I felt really happy because when I was going through the comments of what people had said in a community, there was a gentleman called Inaud, who 100% had the same emotional damages to me. And I was very, very happy that I wasn't the only person who was traumatized by for that.
Thank you. So these are the type of things that, oh, the Rockley did that was horrible, sorry, it was so common. But then traumatized, it was just like, it was just weird. But that was the first video that they refused to show on top of the pops, wasn't it?
I think, one of them. Yeah, I'd have to cut it. Oh, yeah. It's been cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, but yeah.
Amy had to watch the making of it before she went to school every morning. She was absolutely obsessed with it. So she gets hard now. I know you guys like played all the computer games and stuff as well.
Was there any computer games that kind of like freaked you out or left you a little bit like stupid? So I remember not traumatizing, but I was obsessed with Mortal Kombat as a kid and find out the blood cheat because the American release had footed. Yeah, because when it was originally released in the UK, it had no blood. And like the fear of how these didn't work.
So you had actually put a cheat in to actually unlock it. Because that's how they got over the bottom because they're trying to ban Mortal Kombat as to being too violent. Okay, no, I never played fighting games. I called the Dolphin Finer.
Oh, that was different trauma for different reasons. Yeah, that's not to fucking annoying. And yeah, no, I didn't do fighting games. I shared a Mega Drive with me to ask.
So, you know, Sonic the Hedgehog and I was the only one there's some really big that might not have been Mega Drive though that might have been something else. And yeah, I didn't do fight games. I think my first ever joined into computer horror, like computer games with like a horror nature or scary nature was the first time I played Resident Evil on the GameCube. Oh, GameCube.
I bought the GameCube for Resident Evil. It was my first ever console I bought by myself that had nothing to do with my dad. What about you guys? Resident Evil is definitely one of mine, but I didn't play computer games until I was a lot older.
But yeah, Resident Evil is definitely a big factor, especially if you're wearing a headset. It's really, really spooky and you can be like, and you're a lot of jumps. I've done it on VR before. That was horrific.
That lasted about a second. A second longer than it should have really. But everyone else who was in the room watching it has found it hilarious. Talk about it, if we go back to saying that the childhood aspect, it's amazing with certain aspects that kind of got away with our little watch.
Like if you're watching, like, we're all at the age where, because I think it changed later to CBB's, but we used to be like BBC and ITV's like a war like fighting at a Saturday mornings or after school. Like who's going to be watching up until six o'clock while the kids' programs and stuff was. But the type of program it was, like we had Grotbags, which, which again, as a kid, is like this big green witch and with the one the scariest cat you'll ever see. Who looks like Miami?
I like dad. She looked, Miami used to do the whole blue rinse, green rinse, purple rinse, and she had the hairstyle and she actually looked alike. So I was convinced that Miami was Grotbags. But then we had like TV shows, like this was like before the Nickelodeon years.
This was basically we had like the Demon Headmaster. I knew you were going to say that. I don't remember that one. Oh, it was like the Queen's nose.
The Queen's nose? Oh, what was her name? I love her name. Harriet.
Harriet. Harriet. Harriet was Harriet. Harriet, I think, five children and eight or something, the Samiad.
Yes. That was absolutely scary as fuck. And like, say, those type of things, I remember we were in the school, we were short programs like Ghost Rider. Like, this is the type of things that we used in the teachers.
The Dragons Eye. Through the Dragons Eye as well. All those different aspects, again, I don't think they would get away with as much these days. I know they did the David Williams.
But then we got the Nickelodeon era where we got TV shows like, are you afraid of the dark? We got Goosebumps and Teals of the Crypties. This is not my time. This is not my time of Telly.
And it was Harmony. And it was Harmony. Oh, you know. I didn't go and check because I knew it wasn't Harriet.
And yeah, this is Michaela's era of Telly. Was not in the house for this. On this, Green Chill was on. We should have different types of trauma.
Like seeing kids drowning in the sun, fool. Do you do you just watch Children's Watch? No. I remember it, but I never used to watch it.
How sick were them kids that they were always in there? They were always in there. We got to a week and I was like, are you like, are you talking? Where are these questions?
Do you remember them once? They are not a part of my growing up experience. What about you, Sarah? And can you remember those type of shows?
Are you afraid of the dark? Yeah. I remember them. I just don't think I was as traumatized by them as maybe they should have been.
I just enjoyed it. Well, actually, well, I'm not said then we'll go off the other traumatizing thing because Sammy's almost touched on it. There was a show that was on BBC that especially in the North Face traumatized us quite a lot. Especially give me eyes.