China AI, Humanoid Robots, and the Next Wave of Thematic ETFs | Paul Marino, Themes ETFs

Paul Marino spent 25+ years in asset management, starting as a wholesaler at Federated Investors, managing teams at Pioneer Investments, and eventually making the jump to ETFs. Before any of that, he was a journalist at Newsday, the sixth largest daily newspaper in the country. Now, as Chief Revenue Officer at Themes ETFs, he brings all of it together - sales, marketing, PR, and a knack for communicating complex investment ideas clearly. In this episode, we get into two of the most targeted thematic ETFs on the market. First, DRGN - a China-focused generative AI fund built to give U.S. investors access to the AI buildout happening inside China, completely separate from U.S. tech exposure. Paul walks through the index construction, how they screen for sanctions compliance, and why he sees Chinese AI as a distinct return stream that complements what most advisors already hold. Then we pivot to BOTT - the humanoid robotics ETF. This one goes beyond what most people picture when they hear "humanoid robots." The portfolio spans factory automation, autonomous driving, specialized semiconductors, and industrial machine parts across South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, and the U.S. Paul explains why equal weighting and semiannual rebalancing keeps the fund from becoming a single-stock bet, and why adoption in robotics might follow the same curve as commercial aviation. We also dig into how advisors are using thematic sleeves alongside core portfolios, how Themes identifies market gaps and moves quickly from idea to product launch, and why Paul believes early positioning in these spaces matters.