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I asked you about Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. I think that all government is a waste of taxpayer money. Hello, and welcome to the Daily Circus. This is Zed, and I am joined tonight by a man that hasn't been on the podcast in two weeks.
He's been over there with our former masters in the UK, Red. Thank you. Thank you for that brief introduction. You may notice that my speech has slowly drifted into a more accent of British proportions.
Oh, did you get some of it back while you were over there? Did it come back through some kind of gene that got activated? Yes, yes, just tea. Just when I think about tea and Earl Grey tea and Captain Picard, that's when it comes back.
I'll try to run it in. I'll keep it on control for the rest of my cast. Tea? Tea?
Is that it? Tea? Tea. It was interesting.
There's a lot of British people over there in the UK. They all seem to talk a little different than the American folks. I'm not exactly sure what's going on there. If they think they have the right pronunciation, I think they don't.
I read the Merriam Webster's Dictionary, and I feel like they really need to check that pronunciation section. They're close. It's very close. Well, like everything in America, we made it ours, and now ours is right.
That's right. There's the wrong side of the road. I thought that a lot of different countries drove on the wrong side of the road, which the left side would be the wrong side. Apparently, it is mostly just the UK.
I think there's maybe one other. They're just special, I guess. I will say that they do have the Imperial system, which is correct. That's also a good thing.
We know that an inch is an inch no matter where you go, because it's always the width of the King's thumb. That makes a lot of sense. We wouldn't want to switch to the metric system or anything that's standard. I'm pretty sure.
I kind of take Umbrage with what you said there, because I think the King's thumb width is standard. I think... Oh, I see. They just cut off the same King's thumb and they just carry it around.
Well, it's standard within a particular royal dynasty, I suppose. Well, there's so much inbreeding and all of that that. I'm sure the gene pool is great over there with the royals is what I hear. Well, did you know that last King's brother, the last King, was watching a lot of Netflix before I went over to the UK, just to make sure that I was up to stuff.
Do you watch Downton Abbey? Do you get to get all that in? I had watched, already watched Downton Abbey. I watched some additional shows called One Called The Crown, which was about the Queen.
And her uncle was apparently a pretty pro-Nazi. That was interesting. Yeah, I heard that about them. So that happened there for a while.
Yeah, he was a good thing they got rid of him or he quit or whatever actually happened. But yeah, he was not too negative about the Nazis. Also that Churchill movie, that was pretty good. I see the Churchill movie, but I've not seen the Churchill movie.
It was very, very interesting. I don't know if you've heard the speech about where he says, we'll fight him on the land and we'll fight him on the sea and we'll fight him on the beaches and we'll fight him on the whatever. The interesting thing about that is that I hadn't really understood before, is that he's describing losing the war to Germany. And he's saying we will continue to fight them even if we lose in their land and then we lose on the sea and then we lose on our own beaches.
And then if we lose in our own front yards, we will just die fighting because we are the British. And that's what we're going to do. And so that speech, when I understood it in that context, made a lot more sense to me. And it was a lot more inspiring.
Just go down swinging. So hats off British people. And I believe they would have went down swinging if we hadn't brought the military over and participated in a war that we actually needed to be in. Yeah, well, it's a good thing they seeded our country long ago and had some children.
So if you ever think, you know, maybe I shouldn't have children. Just remember, when you have children, they can come defend you when your neighbors try to kill you. That's a very good point. So moving on to our topics tonight and away from England, God save the Queen.
That's it, Queen. Number one topic tonight that we're going to kick it off with is North Korea. So there's obviously there's been a lot of news lately about North Korea. Are we going to go to a nuclear war with North Korea?
One day, Trump is threatening to destroy their entire country on Twitter. The next day he's having a meeting with Kim Jong Un. Yeah, you are. Yeah.
Oh, no. No war. So now, I guess this is interesting, Red. I'm not sure if you've seen this about the bulletproof train.
I try to keep up to date on trains, very into trains. I took the Eurostar into the channel when I was in the UK. Now we're backtracking. Sorry, go ahead.
It's OK, but that one doesn't bulletproof, I'm guessing. Now I'm aware of. So, you know, North Korea with their extremely advanced technology, they're still using trains. So, OK, well, OK, let's let's just only in America are you backwards if you take the train.
Everybody else in the world, I guess, trains are just the way to go. But we like our cars. I agree. I actually wish we used more trains, but it's fun to make fun of North Korea.
Low blow. They're using trains. So, you know, I think I get it though. He probably I'm guessing what he goes out of North Korea, which isn't very often, doesn't want to fly because seems like flying is a lot easier to, you know, take down the plane.
So he has his own entirely bulletproof train. So he has his own entirely bulletproof train, and he rode that from Pyongyang into China, and he messed up a lot of Chinese commuters because they closed down a bunch of train stations and all kinds of stuff for his bulletproof train to come through. And then so he rode that all the way up to Beijing or wherever it is that Xi Jinping is hanging out these days. And he had a conversation with Xi Jinping, and this is very important.
I want to make sure everyone understands exactly the significance of this. North Korean leaders tend to not leave North Korea because everybody wants to kill them. Except the Chinese. Yeah, except the Chinese.
But I'm sure, see, when they go to China though, he's a lot more susceptible, right? Because, you know, we could totally have someone over there on the Chinese government just waiting on him to walk in the room and take him out. Yeah, well, yeah, I think China's the safest bet. Maybe Russia would be number two.
This is what happened. This is the same problem Snowden had. He had to go someplace where the US wasn't able to kill him. Exactly.
Yeah, China and Russia are about the only two places that that is anymore. Well, Argentina, I guess, right? That's where Assange, or at least his body double, is living, right? Oh, really?
Yeah. Isn't that right? I didn't think it was Argentina. I didn't think it was Argentina.
We're going to have to look this up. Someone out there is probably having an aneurysm. Oh, no. Oh, no.
I'm sorry. Julian Assange lives in Ecuador. Yeah, I didn't think it was Argentina. Last time I checked, we have pretty good relations with the Argentinians.
Ecuador, I guess. No, no good there. Oh, apparently. Hey, breaking news here.
Ten hours ago, Ecuador cuts off Julian Assange's internet access at the London Embassy. Not looking good for the Assange. I guess we'll have to cover that on next week when we find out what the result of that is. Well, yeah, his body double really just has no internet.
Oh, okay. We're going to have to do a 10-foil hat episode, a daily circus freak show on what Red's talking about there with his body double. I think that'll be good. That would be funny.
So basically, you know, he goes and he talks with Xi Jinping, which Xi Jinping is Chinese. He's the Chinese dictator. I want to make sure everyone's real clear on that. I know that he's calls himself a prime minister and they pretend to have elections and whatnot.
But, you know, he has infinite term limits now. So I want to make it real clear. The Chinese, China is not a democracy. It is a false democracy.
It's just basically a front for democracy. We have a real democracy because no one wanted Trump and we got him anyways. That's how you know. Well, I think we could do a whole podcast on that as well.
But have we already done that? Have every podcast? I think we could do several more. But let's not get into Trump just yet because Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un came out today and they announced that North Korea is going to denuclearize.
That's all they said. Like pretty much that was the gist of it. They said that quote. They're going to denuclearize.
Yes, they are going to denuclearize. Just North Korea, not China and North Korea. Just North Korea. China is not denuclearizing.
Well, well, North Korea couldn't denuclearize of China, then who would defend them? Exactly. I think probably here's what's happened. This is just my speculation on this read.
So I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. I think he knows, you know, there's major things that shake up at the White House. We're going to get into some of that later on. We've got John Bolton and the Pompeo guy coming into play here who are extreme, you know, DPRK destructionists.
They want to just destroy the whole thing, you know, sale and whatever in South Korea be damned. And so he's realizing things are ramping up. Trump is unpredictable at best. You never know what he's going to do, I think.
And so he actually, you know, I hate to say this, but I think Trump may be partly responsible for this just because he's so crazy. And Kim is actually scared and he's running to China and China is saying, okay, we'll hide the nukes for you or whatever so that he can be safe and he can still have his harems and be the only fat North Korean. Well, you know, I, you know, sometimes we let horrible people live in exile so that the rest of the people in that country don't have to be murdered. So I think this is a trade off I'm probably willing to make.
I think the thing you said is probably pretty close to what's actually happening. So North Korea, I think you're right. They're totally freaked out about Trump because whether or not Trump is actually crazy, everyone in the US media believes that he's crazy. And so everything, and I would say, you know, at least most of the deep state, a large chunk of the deep state, the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc.
I think they all think he's crazy. So I mean, maybe he is crazy. But what I'm saying is that all the intelligence agencies and all the media and all the milieu that interacts on a global scale, they all think he's crazy and out of control. And so I'm sure North Korea does too.
So I think this is really playing to our advantage. This is literally the reason why North Korea has been so powerful for the past. I don't know. However long they've been doing a good job the last 10 years, maybe 15 years.
They've kind of risen to prominence on the world stage, even though they're just this random nobody country that shouldn't really have to say anything because they're terribly managed and they have no economic influence and no political influence. They have nothing. But because their leader has just been totally unhinged and crazy. And again, I don't think he was actually crazy, just like I don't think Trump is actually crazy.
I think he was acting crazy in order to ensure that he maintained his position of prominence and power and authority. And I think what's happening right now is that the president of the US is acting crazy. And so I mean, we've got a lot more crazy. We've got a lot more to do with our crazy than they do.
So I think you're right. And maybe it's not all on Trump. But certainly I would say a lot of what he's done, intentional or not, has been, and I do think it's intentional. I think he's trying to throw them off their guard.
And maybe that's why he's hiring these awful people. Two positions of prominence right now, right before these conversations happen, is so that they will know he's serious. And if they don't do what he wants, he's just going to unleash the war dogs on them. And maybe he will if they don't do what he wants.
Yeah, I think we don't know. I think that's the thing that's so scary about this is sort of Trump's unpredictability. So if you look at Trump in the past, he tends to tweet one thing and then something opposite of that eight hours later. So it's not like he's just makes up his mind and sticks with it.
He changes a lot. And so you've got some of the Trump craziness that's going on here in the United States, whether it's made up or not. And then you've got the North Korea, and I mean, they're just crazy to the entire rest of the world. So you got this sort of soup that's just starting to mix up and boil up.
And it's just going to, you know, the pot's going to start to overflow at some point. So I think really a lot of other world leaders at this point are coming into action and saying, Hey, you know, if they go to nuclear war or they have any kind of war, especially China, you know, if we have any kind of war with North Korea, there is no doubt about it. The United States is going to win that war. It may be at a great expense in life.
Like, you know, say, oh, maybe gone. They may completely obliterate sale South Korea off the map. We should be devastating to the world economy. And that's going to have a lot of consequences.
But we, you know, the United States will win that war. And that's something else China doesn't want because what if we occupy North Korea, then that puts us right on China's southern border and very close to a lot of the terribleness that they have going on down there and gives us a lot more opportunity for espionage. So I think China, more than anybody wants to see things just calm down and go back to the status quo. Yeah, I agree.
And so I think maybe China at some level is helping to facilitate this. Certainly South Korea is they don't want to be blown up and they don't want to be a pawn. Right? South Korea is in probably the worst position possible because they don't have any power.
Right? They can't actually influence anything. But if things go wrong, they're neighbor. They are the chip.
Right? They are the thing that's hanging in the balance. Their city, their main, their biggest city. Right?
I believe it's a soul. Yeah, it's basically their financial sector. Everything's in so, which, you know, they might want to look at doing something about that in the future. It is so close to the DMZ.
It's crazy. Yeah. So it's really interesting. So I also think it's really interesting that this thing about China, because we had a plan to talk about this yesterday, I think.
And yesterday, there was it was a secret meeting in China that nobody was really sure about and that it was kind of speculated that we believe Kim Jong-un is actually in China talking to China about different things. So I'm really, I really do wonder if that was supposed to be secret and the reporters just kind of found out and reported it. And then they came out and reported it's actually happening so that they weren't caught off guard. Because it doesn't sound like something that you would, I don't know, it doesn't sound like it's helping the North Korea position to say, hey, we went into China secretly.
I don't know. Do you think it helps them? Their position or hurts their position? Oh, no, it definitely hurts their position.
I think probably they may have thought that China keeps a pretty tight lid on the media over there. They may have thought they could get it in and out without stirring anything or without noticing. But I mean, basically, you know, when you're taking a bulletproof train into a bunch of train stations and throwing off the entire train schedule for a lot of change, there's no way you're going to keep a lid on that many people knowing something is up, especially when there's a bulletproof train. Yeah, that's super cool.
I wish I had a picture of it. Maybe there's some article out there. Oh, yeah, you know, I don't know. Okay, I'll say this guys.
If we can find a picture of the bulletproof train, it'll be the image for this episode of the podcast. Okay, cool. So I think largely what we've had in the past is saber rattling. I think North Korea has been the master saber rattlers and it's gotten them to positions of power authority.
We finally have Trump doing the same thing in the US context. And I think it's really helping. So North Korea is coming to the table for negotiations. This is just a fantastic thing.
I think we'll see what happens. Everything could go totally wrong. It could be World War three tomorrow. But it could also mean North Koreans are free from their dictator God King.
So I think it could really, really be a really wonderful thing. And this is probably why no one has done this before is because in these situations, keeping the status quo is really easy. And it's not good, but it's very easy to do that. Whereas changing things is a massive risk.
But basically, it's very easy to make them worse, right? So you have to have a lot of confidence and ego and you have to actually be very effective at whatever you're trying to do or have people under you that are very effective to actually make these things work. And this is why we are stuck in the Middle East the way we are stuck because it's very easy to kind of keep things going. It's going to be very, very, very difficult to improve them specifically talking about, you know, the West Bank, Gaza, Israel sort of thing.
And this is the same situation where we're kind of trapped in this horror show where there's just the only way to do something is to really, really do it. There's no way to kind of go 50%. And I think up until this point, we all thought that maybe the only way to actually get rid of the North Korean Communist Empire was to actually go in there with tanks and blow them up. So hopefully this is a third option or a different option.
And I think it could all pan out pretty well. And I think Trump is really putting all the pieces on the table to make this happen. And a lot of people talk about presidents wanting to have a legacy, something that they can think about or that that can be written in the history books for them. And if he's able to reunify North and South Korea or he's able to get North Korea to disarm, I think it'd be very hard to write a history book without including that information.
And it's just such an important thing, at least for people alive right now, maybe in 100 years they won't care. But I guess it probably depends on the 10 years after this. But he's doing everything you can. And I think hiring these people who I loathe all these new choices.
And I think we'll get into this later if we have time. What was that guy's name again? Pompeo. Yeah, this Pompeo guy is just a total horrible person to hire to do anything from my perspective.
And just awful. But if I was in North Korean shoes, I would think, oh my gosh, I cannot believe you decided to Pompeo guy. This is awful. We have to not get this guy to kill us.
So John Bolton too, right, for the National Security Advisor. I mean, Pompeo and Bolton both want to basically blow North Korea up. Yeah, and I mean, again, this is the only position we thought was even possible in terms of solving the situation over there. And if you want to free the people of North Korea, and I think we both do, want to free them, blowing them up seemed like the only possible solution.
When every time we had come to the table and asked for any kind of meeting or any kind of anything, we were told that they were the God King most powerful nation with all the nukes and they would kill everyone if we tried anything. So this is really fantastic if you have a third option here. If there's a different option and we can avoid actual war by hiring some terrible people. Hopefully Trump appears to be good at hiring people and then getting rid of them.
He doesn't appear to fire them personally, but they all seem to leave. So if he wants to use these people to get North Korea back on track, then please, please get rid of John Bolton and Pompeo immediately afterwards. Oh, yeah, I agree. I mean, let's have these guys, like the brevity of these guys 10 years should be the same as the mooch.
Right. Just enough. Just enough to get rid of somebody. We're trying to get rid of.
Yeah. So I think I have a little bit of a different idea of the outcome of this than you. I think maybe my view is a little more pessimistic, which generally tends to be. I think this is also that things do go back to the status quo.
I don't think we're going to free the people of North Korea. That's that's who I think is losing out here. Basically, the rest of the world is winning at the expense of the North Korean people because I think he's basically went up to China and made this deal that said, okay, I just want to continue being God King because, you know, I'm a selfish a hole and have the best deal on earth. Because basically I can just do whatever I want my country and I don't want to give that up because he's a jerk.
And I think it's just going to go back to status quo because China is just going to allow it to happen. Well, I really hope you're wrong. I guess we'll find out. I'm sure that he would like that.
I don't know any kind of God King. I would enjoy stepping off. Yeah, they tend to not want to turn the power over when they are God King. I think I think most people regardless of God King, witness are generally struggle to turn the power over.
So I would think having the one one one ring to rule them all would be very difficult to give up. But Frodo did it. So maybe Kim Jong-un will do it. I hear he's into some Western stuff like basketball.
So I don't know. He's in the Frodo. Well, you know, I would make a Hobbit joke here, but basically all North Koreans are short because they started for generations. So I was going to say, no, yeah, they're all short because seriously, if you look at the famine and everything that happened, like back in the 80s, like they lost like North Koreans lost like as a whole, like on like four inches or something.
It's crazy. Yeah, that really is crazy. One of the reasons why the West is so much bigger is, you know, people just more food healthier, you know, food, and especially in America, we are much bigger and not always vertically. We're bigger in the other way, too, and it doesn't, you know, that's not that great.
You go both directions. So we're probably past the balance point. But anyways, yeah. All right.
Well, I think that's probably enough on North Korea right now until we find out some more info right now, you know, and I want to make sure, you know, I think in no way, shape or form, does this mean he's actually going to give the nukes up. There's a lot that has to happen before we can say, okay, yeah, this is this is right. This is actually going to happen. You know, it's kind of like any country when you go to take their weapons.
You have to do a lot of investigation and it's going to be hard to get in there to do that investigation. Yeah, it will. I don't know that it's ever going to be possible unless we get him to. So the best possible outcome, I think, would be the horrible thing that happened in Japan, not the bomb, but what we did afterwards.
And basically what happened was Japan was humiliated. We made them give up all their swords, which are kind of honor thing. And that's if you understand Japanese culture, that is a, you know, that would be the equivalent of, you know, in America, I guess, taking your manhood, like it would be like your family or your family gun. Maybe.
Well, I think America tends to really hold on to masculinity is a good thing. So it'd be like coming in and, you know, castrating all of the males in America. I mean, that's pretty much the how important that is. And so that's what we did to Japan.
And we took away all their their swords, which is a source of honor and, you know, weaponry and manhood and power and we took it all away. And then we told them they couldn't have a military anymore. It was all pretty horrible, but now they have. I mean, so there's some there's some really negative things I personally feel about Japan.
Their culture is now insane, but they at least they're not trying to kill everybody in every foreign country and there's no more nanking problems and that sort of thing. They have vending machines where you can buy women's used underwear. They've got some issues, but I don't think those issues were necessarily caused by the sword taking away. You know what though?
If the end result of this is that in North Korea 50 years from now, there's, you know, used underwear vending machines, I think I'll still be okay with it. Yeah, right. That would be it would be an okay trade off. I think as long as they're not trying to kill everyone else.
And they're feeding their people. That's the most important thing. The most important thing here is that the people of North Korea are taken care of. So I hope that this actually happens.
I hope China doesn't be too terrible. We know they're gonna be terrible, but at least, you know, could they be somewhat humane? Yeah, definitely. I'm always concerned when we lose another communist dictatorship though, because every time you lose one, people tend to forget how terrible they are.
So if you're listening, don't forget communist dictatorships are terrible and they've ruined everything. You still got China, Russia, and Venezuela. So well, yeah, Venezuela, man. That's that is a sad, sad story.
Uh oh, we got to talk about Venezuela sometime. I have some Venezuelan contacts and I've been pumping them for information. So maybe we'll do a show on that. Yeah, we'll have to do a Venezuela show.
So let's move on to our next topic for the night, which is the firing of Andrew McCabe. And, Red, I'm going to turn it over to you for the intro on this one. Well, McCabe was a wonderful man working for the FBI for many years. He had previously, I believe he had previously retired from another government job.
And so it has a pension already, but he got back in and was doing a great job at the FBI. So I assume he got promoted at some point. And ended up being very closely connected to lots of different people and just kind of rose through the ranks. And at a certain point, he became kind of influential in that his wife started to run for office.
And so his wife, Dr. Jill McCabe, ran for Virginia State Senate. She was supported by the Democratic Party. So she received a bunch of money from the then current governor, Terry Mcauffle Mcauffees.
Although I'm sure he wants to call him Terry Mcauffle. Terry Mcauffle, let's go with that. So Terry Mcauffle's committee gave him half a million dollars. No, half, yeah, half a million dollars, $467,000.
And then he got another $207,000 from the Democratic Party. And Mcauffle, and this is a quote from Vox, strongly left wing, periodical. Mcauffle, and that's my addition there. Mcauffle, it's worth noting, is a political ally and personal friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
And so what we have is this guy who has a wife who is running in this democratic race. This is almost certainly not going to win because it's a contested seat that they just haven't won in quite a long time and loses, obviously, but gets 700,000 to run. So I don't know, very connected to the Clintons. This Mcauffle guy is, and then just so happens that this is the guy that's basically in charge of the Hillary Clinton investigation.
And just previously this, he got a whole bunch of money from the Democrats for his wife for running for a seat that she was never going to get. And then he got into a position of power and authority where he was in charge of the Hillary Clinton investigation. And it's just super not cool. And so he was going to get, they said he was going to be censured by the DOJ.
I don't think that happened. And so what happened was essentially two days before his second set of retirement benefits kicked in, they fired him. So he did not get a second set of retirement benefits. But I assume that he still gets to keep that $700,000 he got unless he spends it all on the party.
So I'm guessing that that was his wife got that money for her campaign. Right. Yeah. And obviously no one would ever use that money for anything other than a campaign.
So I'm pretty sure campaign donations are tracked pretty heavily. Yeah, definitely. There's no way you could ever use campaign money for anything that wasn't specifically for campaign. I'm sorry, I'm being super sarcastic because I think that this is a giant slush fund for most politicians.
They get a whole bunch of money from random people and they do favors and they do all sorts of stuff for that money. Yeah. Well, they also, so there are ways of you. So the campaign money is tracked, but basically they get around that by just doing everything for the campaign all the time.
So regardless of what spawn, resort and suite that they're in and whatever limo they took there, it's all for the campaign. Yeah. So I find this very suspicious that he gets all this money from a Hillary Clinton, you know, personal friend, supporter, whatever you want to call. And then he gets promoted into a position of power and authority and then he has to decide what's going to happen to the Clintons.
It seems very sketchy to me. And before the left just goes crazy thinking, oh, this is just Trump personally firing this guy. The FBI had a disciplinary process that recommended his termination. You know, and if you're going to feel bad for him, he already has retirement benefits from a corporate job.
And this is maybe I'll get into this a little bit later about why specifically retirement benefits are such a scam when it comes to government. But I'll turn it back to you before I go down that route. Because they have them and none of the rest of America does. That would be a large part of it.
Yeah, so hold on just a second before we get started here. I got to check my bank account. Yep, still no money from the Clintons. Okay.
So wait on that. But anyway, I'm just going to have to say the truth then. Yeah, so, you know, Shucks, I can't be a shill. So, you know, it definitely a lot of what Red said there is some pretty crazy evidence against that man.
I think at the very least when it came to the email investigation, he should have recused himself from that simply because of his wife and their relationship with the Clintons. You know, when you're getting $700,000 from somebody for your wife's campaign, it's not, I think it would be hard for anybody to be objective when you're doing the investigation. On that person. And it wasn't, and again, it wasn't directly from Hillary Clinton or the Hillary Clinton, whatever, but it's just, they're also connected.
It's from the Democratic Party. Right. And Hillary Clinton is the presidential candidate for the Democratic Party. Hillary Clinton is basically at this point, you know, number one Democrat.
She was the Democratic Party. Yeah. So it's certainly at the very least, I think he should have recused himself from that, you know, and said, okay, I can't do the email server that, you know, give that one to Jimmy or whoever else. They probably would have had to throw that football several times before they found somebody.
But so here's the thing that I think about this, though. You know, I think Trump is angry at this guy. That's just pretty clear. He's lashed out at him on Twitter several times.
And he really has it out for him because, you know, he was on the email investigation and, you know, he feels like he probably could not have been objective. And then also he was on the Russian collusion investigation and Trump just hates everybody on the Russian collusion investigation. Can we agree on that point? Yes.
Yes, he makes that very he's very vocal about that. He hates everyone on the Russian collusion. He thinks they're all chills. Yeah.
So and whether they are, they aren't, you know, here's the thing. I think the president of the United States has no business tweeting that somebody that's in the government should be fired. You know, basically putting that out for the entire American Sea. That's fair.
He should just fire him. Yeah. I mean, I, okay, if he's really wants the guy fired, you know, he Trump cannot the way I understand it. Trump couldn't even fire him.
He came directly. He had to order sessions to do it, which is pretty much what happened here. Well, so I will say that the sessions did fire him, but he essentially came down to sessions would either have to accept the FBI disciplinary processes recommendation that he terminated or the sessions would have to disagree with that and say, no, I'm going to go against what the FBI disciplinary process says. Now, you can say that the disciplinary process, the FBI was stacked against him or maybe there was a collusion or whatever, but it wasn't just, it wasn't just Trump hate.
Yeah. So the thing here, though, that also makes this a little more complicated is sessions really need some brownie points with Trump right now. Oh, yeah. Well, that's true.
That guy is not doing what Trump hired it for. Yeah. So, you know, Trump is very angry at sessions, especially for recusing himself on the Russian investigation, because he feels like sessions was the guy that should have just saved him, regardless of whatever the evidence was. Eric Holder would have done it.
Oh, come on. I don't. Eric Holder would have died defending Obama. Okay.
So here's the thing, though, whether or not Eric Holder would have died defending Obama. It doesn't matter what matters. It actually happens with Trump matter. I agree.
I agree. Yeah. So, you know, sessions recuse himself. Trump is very angry about that.
He's publicly, you know, called Jeff Sessions names. He makes fun on Twitter sometimes. He says things like, you know, I wish we had an attorney general that blah, blah, blah. I think he went wasn't he called him one time.
He called. He called. He made fun of his physical attributes one time. I can't remember what that is.
I'm going to have to look that up. He called him something really weird. Why don't you look that up while I'm continuing on my scathing, you know, this is all Trump's fault thing. So, you know, the thing is, we got Trump, you know, he's he's tweeting about, you know, racing the clock and he's goading sessions to fire this guy right on Twitter, you know, and so this comes down to they got, you know, two days to fire the guy.
Like, you know, if they had all this evidence that was so good, why didn't they fire the guy before the two days? I mean, now if they really just got the evidence, you know, just on the two days, then that's fine. But I find that a little hard to believe since, you know, you know, this has been going on for months. And so I think that basically, you know, I think that basically, you know, the guy was going to retire sessions was, I imagine Jeff Sessions just sitting at his desk before like, you know, 48 hours, 72 hours before this.
And he's just like sweating bullets like, Oh my gosh, you know, I really need to wait on whatever it is. But, you know, Trump is going to fire me if I don't fire McCabe. So, you know, he ends up just going out and firing McCabe, probably before they had whatever smoking gun it was they really needed. So pretty much this comes down to me to a due processing.
You know, they didn't give this guy due process is the way that I see this. You know, they should have let him retire. And then if he really did something bad open an investigation, they can take all that away. They can take all that away.
They can take that money back. This was just so that Trump could laugh about this guy getting fired. And that's the reason I hate this man as being our president. All right.
Well, so I think some of that's that's true. But also, I couldn't find I couldn't find what he literally made fun of him if he did what I do have is the tweet. He says, why is a sessions asking Inspector General to investigate potentially massive bias of use? This will take forever and has no prosecutorial power.
And already late with reports on Comey, etc. Isn't the IG and Obama guy? Why not use the Justice Department lawyers disgraceful? That's what he said about Jeff Sessions.
Maybe he said something else worse, but he clearly is not happy with Jeff Sessions. I agree with you there and Jeff Sessions didn't need a win. And I think there's at some point he dressed him down his office and session said, well, fine, if you really want me to quit, I'll quit. But I guess he never did quit.
He said sessions would later tell associates that the demeaning way the president addressed him was the most humiliating experiences in the decades of public life. So this sounds right to me. This sounds like an accurate representation of what happened. What I do think is they've been talking about this for a long time.
It caged me on our radar for quite a while. I read this story about the $700,000 months and months ago. So I'm guessing they had this investigation going. It's honestly, it's entirely plausible to me that they drug it out until the last day for both reasons.
Reason one, because they are the government and they're doing their best to do things as slowly as possible. And so they wait until the last possible minute to actually make a decision and recommendation. They're like, oh my gosh, we only have three days left. We got to decide what we're going to do about this McCabe guy.
And then they say, okay, well, I think we have to blah, blah, blah. So then they released the report saying that they need to get rid of him. On the other hand, I think it's entirely plausible that they're like, dude, this McCabe guy is just awful. I think this McCabe guy, he's such a Hillary chill.
Let's, Hillary is such a jerk. I totally feel the burn and I just wish that we could get him back. Let's just wait until the last possible moment. And so that's what they did.
So I don't know, maybe you're right. Maybe it was all just literally just to be as horrible as possible. But if it was, and I guess I don't know the day that the FBI disciplinary process recommended the termination. So I can't really answer that question.
But it's possible that just wait until the last minute. I think it's also possible Trump did it just to be as mean as possible because he couldn't send him to jail. And that's what he wanted to do. And again, wanting to send someone to jail that you don't have anything to send them to jail for, that makes you a crazy dictator.
Well, okay, but if I think there's a difference between not having enough evidence to send someone to jail and not that person doesn't deserve to go to jail because if this is true, right, not that he should have refused himself. I think that's obviously true. And that's basically why he was he was fired. But if he actually used his power and influence to influence the investigation about Hillary to keep her out of jail, then that is definitely a jail offense.
And that guy should be going away for a long time because then he's part of the us versus them of the rich versus the everyone else, the elites versus the whatever. People talk about the 99% of it's garbage because what it is, is it's the point zero zero zero one percent. And that's the Hillary people. That's McCabe.
That's Trump. That's everybody who's running anything of a massive scope and scale. They're part of the point zero zero one percent. And if McCabe as part of the point zero one percent, remind you his wife got $700,000 to run a campaign that everyone knew she would lose.
So if this guy, if this guy intentionally let Hillary Clinton off the hook, even though she deserved to go to jail, then yeah, that's that's that's massively corrupt. Right. I think we agree that if those things are true, that that's true. So I still think there's lack of a smoking gun here.
Right. And I'm not saying it is true. I'm set because if it was true, if there was a smoking gun, then he should say he would or he should be in jail. What I'm saying is that if it was true, it would be totally appropriate for that guy to go to jail.
Oh, yeah. But another part of our system that's broken is those guys don't go to jail. No matter what, they don't go to jail. So so part of me thinks, well, maybe maybe there is enough evidence to put it away, but that they just can't do it.
And maybe that's why they were just so vicious. But, you know, that's just speculation. And well, he's super high up in the FBI too. So who knows what kind of dirty has on all kinds of people because that's another way that the government and these high ranking officials and specifically the FBI and the CIA operate by just having all kinds of intel, even on our own people that we can use them to manipulate them into doing all kinds of things.
And some of you may think that we're getting a little too tin foil hat here on that, but there's literal documented evidence of this kind of stuff happening all the time. Just go out. Just start googling and go out and you can find government documents where this kind of stuff happens. Yeah, it's all over the place.
It just depends on who the what the current leadership of the FBI is like, what they decided to do. Hoover was just a disaster. He did all sorts of stuff. It's to me, and this comes back to the way that Comey was fired.
And a lot of people were really, really angry about how Comey was fired. But this guy had all the chips on all the tables. He had everything. You do not, if you're going to fire somebody like that, you do not, you know, walk them into the office, walk into their office and say, Hey, you know, I really appreciate the hours you put in with us.
You lock them out of every possible thing that they could possibly get to use against you or anyone else. This guy was this guy had so much power and authority as head of the FBI. I mean, I'm a strong advocate that these organizations shouldn't exist, at least not the way they currently are formed because there's just too much power to consolidate. And that was the guy who was in charge of it.
And so, I don't know, doing it in the public way is scary. And so this again is one of those sorts of things where it seems really sketchy, but we're not on the inside. We don't really understand what it's like to be there. And so, I don't know, they also waited till he was almost quitting so they didn't fire him early.
They just, but they did take away his mentions. That was pretty horrible. It's hard for me to defend that one. Yeah.
So I mean, basically that is hurting not only him, but his family and whoever else. I'm sure, you know, I mean, when you talk about taking away someone's pension, even if it's their second pension and that really just gets under my skin. But, you know, you're directly hurting that person in a lot of ways and you're hurting their dependence. The people depend on them in a lot of ways too.
So, I like this point. Yeah, at this point, he probably is probably him and his wife, right? Well, yeah. But I mean, I'm sure there's things he wants to do with his kids.
Maybe he wants to leave his grandkids something that's going to make it harder to do that. I mean, it affects everybody down the line is what I'm saying. Well, let me say I agree with you. If he, if all he was guilty of was not recusing himself, then I think that that was unnecessarily an unjustly harsh.
If he was guilty of the other stuff that we will never know about, then I think it was unjustly merciful. Okay. And I will agree with that same point. However, if they don't have that other stuff, they need to give this man his pension back and publicly apologized to him.
So we either need to as the public see that stuff and it come out or they need to reverse this. Yeah, I agree with you. But of course, of course, I think we both know that none of the public stuff will ever come out unless it's leaked in an email by some vigilante, like Edward Snowden or who are other guys, Manning and Assange. Well, I mean, why not though?
I mean, Trump would obviously want to get that out. If this guy really did tinker with the Hillary Clinton email investigation, Trump would, he would personally pay to have that put on billboards all across America. Yes, this is always an interesting point for me when I try to understand why this stuff doesn't all come out. And one of the big points is that you are kind of guilty of treason if you let any of this stuff out.
And but some of it does come out anyways. So one of the things to remember is whenever anything newsworthy about the intelligence agencies comes out, it's usually being leaked by the intelligence agencies senior staff who basically have an okay to do it. Yeah, usually I think it's the senior staff are allowed to do it or it's not intentionally because they have to pass these background checks every year or six months or three years or whatever it is, depending on the agency and the job position. And one of these questions I believe one of these questions I asked is have you leaked any information to the press?
And do they have to figure out how to answer that question? So I think it's difficult for them to leak unless they unless they're very good at lying on a lie detector. And I'm sure some are very good at that. But the other way to do it is to be allowed to do it and then you're not leaking.
You are officially disseminating information. Yeah, that's just not my keep in mind when I read this any kind of national security news is that this probably came from somebody in national security trying to pursue an agenda that supports the current worldview of the leadership of the national security group. I think you're probably right about that. So let's move on to topic three.
We actually are going to make it to topic three tonight. Are we? Yeah. Have you seen that show 24?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jack Bauer, right? Yeah. Well, we, you know, we just made Jack Bauer Secretary of State. Whoa, that is so cool.
Is he going to stop all the nukes? He's probably going to install nukes in secret places while torturing people and making them, you know, he's going to build some kind of gigantic torture, Rub Goldberg machine that launches nukes. Well, it's okay to torture if you're doing it to help people. Don't be so negative, Zed.
Yeah, no, it's never okay to torture people. We should, you know, we have rules about torture for a reason and waterboarding is torture. We should just get that right out there. Whoa, whoa, whoa, who enhanced interrogation technique, like enhanced interrogation.
And sometimes people are just hungry and they can't use their mouths anymore. So we have to do rectal feeding. It's fine. Pineapples, whatever.
You got to eat to live. So sometimes we feed these people through not their mouth. Okay. You totally convinced me now.
Thank you. Goodness. All these liberal people just complaining about all these people getting food. They're on a hunger strike.
What are we going to do? We have to feed him somehow, right? exactly why not in tarot restoration or whatever it was they called that on south right in tarot restoration uh... all right so we actually the talking points on this guy is insane the fact that he's going to be secretary of state should scare everybody no matter what side you're on and actually i see this is interesting he's been a fox news contributor and if you look at there's this particular time that he was on fox news and he was praising the president trump he basically was just you know just landed on heavy for president trump and shortly after that president trump tweets about him becoming secretary of state while he's actually still on fox news and they talk about it well i don't have to lie happens live and i was not what i was next at i have i will try and find that that video and link it in the show notes because it's just crazy actually didn't find that video until late today uh...
i was actually listening to something else and seen it on there and i was like you gotta be kidding me uh... so yes the the current working theory is that trump seen this man just you know loving him on fox news and decided to make a secretary of state also i'll take that and i'll give another another opinion here i think that he uh... trump trump loved him before that and that was when he basically uh... supported the destruction of hillary clinton due to the ben gazhi thing and i know half the world thinks ben gazhi is just a word used by republicans that means nothing and uh...
half half the audience probably thinks that ben gazhi is when hillary clinton uh... intentionally killed argue ambassador christy uh... so i don't know uh... i don't know which team you're on but it doesn't matter because that's what happened uh...
i'm pretty sure that i'm a supported uh... basically the non non-standard uh... talking points on the ben gazhi investigation and i i feel like that probably rose up the trouble at her and then maybe this this company got the help of it i don't know it seems much more planned uh... you really think you really think the guy got on but was it fox and friends the one from watches you know i don't know what the show was not to look that up alright if it was a high-end friends i'll give you some more i'll give you some more points in terms of probability but otherwise i think that he probably knew he was getting the job and he went on fox and friends and get this job you should have me on the show while i'm getting the job that we talk about it that that just sounds like uh...
working together to make some fake news anyways while you look at that i'm going to read some of my favorite quotes from mike pom pam so my company of support surveillance programs of the nsa referring to the agency's efforts as quote good and important work but it's not so bad he later stated congress should pass a law reestablishing collection of all metadata and combining it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive searchable database legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed that includes presidential policy director twenty-eight which even bestows i'm sorry does not say even which bestows privacy rights on foreigners and poses burdensome requirements to justify data collection why would you need to justify data collection special or an is you know here's the thing i've watched twenty four and when you have to justify data collection you stop jack bower from getting the bad guy and well but then he just has to torture people so many that's worse hmm that's a quandary are yeah uh... prisons pam pam pam pam pam pam on prisons and this is just literally reading the from the week of the entry so if you have time you should read the entry uh... pam pam pam oppose opposes closing one time of a after twenty thirteen visit he said of the prisoners on hunger strike it looked me like a lot of them had put on weight all man that guy is a class act right that is hardcore good stuff yeah i mean starving people putting on way you know i'm sure that he would be perfectly fine with the meeting each other well in terror restaurant north korea so it would be great thing to do you can arise with the pencil to get those weapons off of that but the thing that is most dangerous about character is who holds control over them today so that's that's not a he wants regime change right because it he doesn't he's saying that in this quote he's saying it would be good to get rid of the nukes but what he really wants is to get rid of the leader and i don't know we get rid of the newx for me get rid of the nukes number one number one thing to do get rid of the nukes i want the leader to bow down to everyone but but uh... himself because he's the god king of whatever i want him to do the same thing with you japan and to just kind of say okay i'm not going to be the king anymore i'll i'll i'm just really turn over uh...
the government etc etc uh... but pam pam pam pam pam pam doesn't really want that doesn't sound like he wants sounds like he just wants to end it dead so on iran i look forward to rolling back to disastrous deals something that's okay let's get that one wicki leaks this was fantastic one uh... pam pam pam pam refers to wicki leaks as a non-state hostile intelligence service the non-state hostile intelligence service so that basically would just be any website disagreeing with the government by his definition right he said so we can no longer allow a son jenny's colleagues the latitude to use freedom of speech values against us to give them this space to crush us with misappropriated secrets is a perversion of what our great constitution stands for it ends now asanjan has ilk make common cause with dictators today what what is talking about yes they try to unsuccessfully cloak themselves and their actions the language of liberty and privacy even though that's the only thing that they do in reality however they champion nothing but their own celebrity their currency is clickbait their moral compass is not existed their mission personal self-aggrandizement through the destruction of western values yeah the destruction of western values like freedom and privacy and uh you know holding your government accountable all the things that pam pao wants to destroy the thing that i find it most hilarious about that statement is him talking about someone else's moral compass i mean this guy has the moral compass of that got like the killer guy from no country for old men or he's like saw he i think he would be the saw guy because he'd be like yeah we don't learn a lesson we'll teach him a lesson so here's here's the thing anybody out there on the right that's listening to this right now and if you listen to that statement and you thought well yeah you know yeah criminal justice bring them in you know let's make them pay punishment you know we can't have wicki leeks destroying america here's thing everybody on the right used to hate wicki leeks but now they love them because of the whole you know trump and clinton email thing but a lot of them now i'll talk to them and they will still hate snowden so if you are loving wicki leeks and hating snowden the cognitive dissonance that is required for that is just absurd you need to take a step back look at what you were saying and realize that you know snowden is a frickin hero and that's all i have to say about that the man exposed a gigantic corrupt government conspiracy to take all of our things we're saying we have to stop listening to the people who are being exposed for corruption when they say stop listening to the person exposing my corruption it is insane that is the most insane thing you can do when there's someone who is who is being exposed for corruption literally with the release of all of their own information they're the real source of their information the things they said and did and we are listening to them and say don't look at the evidence the evidence says nothing this was very frustrating with the hillary clinton emails because people said oh there's nothing there don't even look and and with some of the what's up with the snowden stuff people just said don't look at it it's fine everything's legal there and they just slowly kept leaking more and more and more this is actually the reason the snowden leaks were so powerful because we have other leaks that happen and so i'll read a bunch of them but almost nothing gets the kind of traction that the snowden leaks got because they just did it in a very very savvy way in terms of how our media operates they just leaked a little bit of a small story and then everyone who is in charge of the thing that was corrupt would say well that's just a small thing and it's actually legal because we read this law the wrong way that no one reads it it's legal illegal so it's fine yeah legal illegal one thing i want to say there i'm sorry for interrupting i'll let you finish but the other thing that they do with all this stuff is they just they make you think and they try and spin it so that you think that you know they can't stop the terrorist if they don't do this yeah and that's it's crazy you need a warrant get a warrant all this stuff is very clear most most of the things that we catch are very simple you just ask for a warrant you get a whole bunch of details about these people almost every terrorist we have has been notified by a foreign country to us ahead of time we already have what we need to do the data search if we have to do the spying maybe that's okay but you you have to at least have some due process where we have a warrant and we have a real judge and we can we can see the records and we can go back and we can understand what's happening but everything is classified no one knows what's happening even when we're trying to find out evidence about why trump was being spied on it's very very difficult because every piece of information they want to share or that we want to share and i think both of us want to see all the evidence they have to declassify it so it's just whoever happens to be in charge of declassifying or whoever's allowing us to read the information has to want us to see it and it's a terrible system so even if you are for all this crazy mass spying you have to be against the classified nature of how the records are kept exactly we cannot continue to do things this way the thing about due process is it's one of those things where you just have to have an absolute standing on it you you absolutely cannot not go through your proper due process as as carried you know as stated in the law the thing is the first time you go around due process and you say oh well there's terrorists so they don't need we don't need to do it now it makes that that is a slippery slope to them just coming into your house without a warrant it it's a road that you cannot go down it's one of the if you think about you know a foundation and a pillar that holds up the rest of your your infrastructure this is one of those foundations and and you know a lot of the times i i criticize people on the right a lot for you know you'll hear me say it you know you're you're backing law enforcement backing law enforcement again i'm not talking about the people here i'm talking about the way that it's done we have to do it according to the Constitution no matter what yeah it's if there's no due process okay so just from a conservative perspective i'm just if you're liberal you don't have to listen here but if you're conservative the things that uphold all of western society are our culture and our values and one of our values is a belief in the rule of law and that means that we have laws and we follow those laws and what we have done when it comes to this sort of stuff is we've stopped following the laws and we've just created our own special quasi-state where the laws don't apply if you've heard the phrase enemy combatant that is a that isn't i'm gonna say it's an illegal term it's a term that does not exist within the law it's not contemplated by the law because it's not supposed to exist we have a we have a classification of people as human beings an enemy combatant is not a thing so they created a quasi-legal term so that they could turn off the rule of law they could turn off the foundations of our civilization that holds society together and if you want to continue to hold society together you cannot turn off the rule of law because that is the foundation that everything else operates on you care about the family awesome you care about the economy awesome you have to care about the rule of law every terrible country has has struggled consistently with the rule of law so just i don't know build it into your moral compass that the rule of law is how we have to operate things when we live in the real world i don't know so let let me let me wrap up with a final quote about what pompeo thinks about Edward Snowden pompeo said Edward Snowden quote should be brought back from Russia this again is a guy who told us that the government was breaking the law this guy should should be brought back from Russia given due process i think the proper outcome is he would be given a death sentence that is literally he's saying that he wants the guy who told us the truth that people like mike pompeo are illegally spying on us he wants that guy to die so there you go you can you can be on mike pompeo side kill the people that tell us the government is corrupt or you can be on not not not pompeo side and be on the side of the people that want us to understand the corruption within the government so we can fix it yeah it's this totally crazy i just want to say wanting to execute Edward Snowden for leaking things that never should have been classified because they're illegal i mean they're classified because they don't want you to know they're breaking the law it's totally insane yeah you can't classifying things that are illegal should be illegally in and of itself well yeah by the very definition if you're doing something illegal it's never classified because it's illegal if only if only that worked only they could just say oh well this is legal well that's not classified because it's already legal that works that works in the private sector you can't you can't write a contract that is illegal uh so i wish it would work in the government sector too yeah it's it's it really truly is crazy and i don't know how it is that we are just okay like the american people just seem to be totally cool with just letting all of this happen and you know i don't get it and i i'm like you i just hope that this whole pompeo thing and we didn't really get into boulton we need to do a side thing on boulton at some point because he's almost as bad if if not as bad as pompeo i don't i hope that this isn't a trend that you know realizes these people are bad and gets them out and that they don't my greatest fear is that these these guys could basically be the worm tongue guy from lord of the rings well yeah for sure i mean i don't know what your deal with michael boulton is i think when a man loves a woman is not that bad of a song i mean it's you know it's 90s love valid so i i can't criticize it too much you know if michael boulton was going to be national security advisor i'd be way more okay with it than the guy that is going to be national security advisor uh well maybe we'll get lucky yeah so with that i think uh we're going to call this one a podcast we really appreciate you guys listening it read i have to say it was great having you back the last two weeks it's been tough on me i just i sit here and cried at the mic it was like where's red at he's an eagle don't worry don't worry i won't leave for another two weeks excellent where where are you headed to next what's the next adventure i'll tell you when i get back oh no i have to just wonder you're going to north korea aren't you you're gonna take a bulletproof train i see me and robin you've been robin hanging out on kim jongoon's bulletproof train go i'd love to see what north korea's like that'd be interesting oh man you know i would go if i knew that the north korean regime was making no money off of it seriously tourism is a large part of their economy it's crazy oh is that true yeah that's because you know a lot of a lot of europeans go there to just you know again it's the same thing like you said you want to go over there just be like wow right look at all the poor people well well no you don't see the poor people you don't get to see the poor people that's thing they do you know have you seen any of those like uh have you have you have you looked at any of those red threads of people that go over there no yeah i really didn't know that you could just go over there that i know no tourism is a big thing so you have to go to china all all of it goes through china gotcha yeah so so you go to china first and then there's these tourism companies that just specialize in north korean tourism of course you can't go there as an american citizen through one of these so Canadians can go there pretty much everyone but americans and i think japanese people can't go but um we'll see what else also south korean people you would not want to go there if you're south korean because they would just arrest you and because they believe you're really you're just a trader so you're in wrong korea yeah yeah north korea best korea you know so the way it works is you go in through this tourism company you get there and you get a handler and that handler is with you at all times except for when you go to like bed at night you know in your hotel room which is clearly bugged like all out so i mean they have ice in you at all time so they you can't just go over there and roam around freely you're with your handler you go on a specific guided trip and they take you around to like all the the places they take you to all the kim illsung and kim jong ill and kim jong un memorials and you know there's there's rules you have to follow about taking pictures and all this it's it's totally nuts there's a bunch of red threads of people that posted the pictures that they took um and talked about their experience basically they don't take you to any of the poor places you're not allowed to see poor people because basically they're trying to create this picture for you that north korea is a thriving nation and everything is great there that's nice good for north korea to have a fake version of reality just like the rest of us so i mean while i think it would be interesting to go over there and see like the 1984 like in reality right like see it like you're gonna get your your very own reality specialist is basically that's what those people that the tour guide should just be called reality specialist because they're they're taking you around and just showing you their version of reality so the thing is though everybody knows it's a sham right so i mean there's even like they talk about they'll go into shopping walls and stuff and there will be people there that have just those people aren't really they're shopping they're just like they're to be there to look like they are that is awesome that's yeah that's like that's like a whole disney it's like it's own little crazy disney they have people who's that these people's jobs are to be fake people shopping and doing things wow that would be an interesting job it's like being a it's like being a a thespian a professional actor you know i have to wonder like what do they tell those people it has to it has to that job has to come with perks right because to do that job you're going to be gaining knowledge they don't want you to gain maybe you get to eat one of the fake apples every day they give you like oh yeah i see so you you get one of the real apples every day and that's that's you know payment for your it's a terrible place all right we gotta wrap the podcast up but it's just north korea's terrible let's hope that regime change happens or at the very least the north korean people get you know brought back into civilization with the rest of the world hooray all right so you guys can find us on patreon daily circus pod over on patreon we are at daily circus pod on twitter i am at real zed that's our eel zed on twitter and red where can they find you you can find me on twitter at red t d c all right and you know you you notice we don't have a facebook presence we just we were in before the rest of the people leaving facebook that's that's the thing we never we're there we beat it exactly we were not there's we're the first mover to manage so exactly all right so thanks for listening to show guys we really appreciate everything that you know you guys tweet to us all the interaction over on patreon and uh go give us a five star rating on the iTunes we 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