Deathbed Confession

Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. We're probably going to need more zip ties. Eventually.

Oh yeah. When there's five of them. Well, you can never have enough zip ties. You can't.

It's true. I know. Welcome back, friends. Hi.

Hello. We are together in the morning. We are. It is daylight.

It is daylight. I think was stunned at the time that I texted her that I would be here. I did have to set an alarm to make sure I was like up and alive, which is funny because this time of day, so I told her I'd arrive at 9.30 AM. I have been up for the last three and a half hours.

We were up at six. So to me, I'm like, wow, that's so late. Well, into your day now. But I have to keep in mind, said that that is not true of everybody.

No. So no, thank you for getting up early and shifting your schedule for me. Yeah. And I'm a happy morning person.

Yeah, I'm not. You're getting me at the good time of day. I'm going to be going to be on it. Yeah.

So I have to tell you this thing I did last night. Okay. And I saved it for the podcast. Was it illegal?

It might have included trespassing. I'm not sure. Good work. So my brother, I'm told you this either.

My brother just went and bought a Camaro. What? Yeah. Is that Chick-fil-A money, man?

It is. Is it new old? It's a 22. Oh my god.

Blue. It's beautiful. I mean, I didn't see it when I got used at work currently. So he's not currently here.

But he got this new car. And so it's a manual. And I learned how to drive a manual at one point in my life. And I was like, I don't want to drive this, you know, $50,000 car.

Yeah. Like crazy amount of money. So which like just goes to speak to like this kid's financial savviness of like him being able to do that at 24 on a like quote unquote fast food. But he probably makes good money.

I swear he makes more money than I do with the Chick-fil-A. And he's a back-of-house like manager and doesn't learn maintenance. Like he's doing well for himself. Right.

Chick-fil-A. Right. But yeah, it was it's impressive. Like I'm impressed.

So my grandmother was like, I'm driving that thing. She's like, I want to drive it. I love it. So he brought it home the other night.

And it was dark. And we're like, maybe you don't drive this new vehicle at night in the dark on our street. So we went up behind in this like abandoned parking lot situation. And we're up there.

They're driving around. I'm like, I'm not going to drive it. So I'm walking around them, you know, abandoned lot up there to see what there is to see. I mean, what if there's a body and I'm the one that has to find it.

So that's convenient. I'm walking and I found a body. It wasn't me who did anything. I found a body.

I was here. And I see this placard and it says some like two names on I can't remember the names are now. I think one was a deeper and something cemetery. And like there's little like scary path in the woods.

I can see like headstones. I'm like, and it's like above the interstate, like on a hill. And I'm like, why is there a cemetery up here? Well, Earth is where the abandoned restaurant was.

Yes. So I'm like, this is weird. So I go get Granny, obviously, and I'm like, Hey, you want to go check out this sketch out because she likes somebody with you right? And I'm obviously Granny is the one she'll take that 80 year old lady.

I'm like, absolutely, let's go. And she's like, Hey, yeah, I'm going. So we are traips and through the woods. I'm not dressed for woods.

I have jeans on, thankfully, but I had sandals on Granny did have closed to choose, but she had like short pants on. So we're traips and through there the grass is high. I'm like, I'm gonna get so many ticks. There's gonna be so many snakes down here.

We get down in there and these are like old, old graves, like 1800s. So and a lot of them are kids. Like one, one to two years old, like 1800s. So, you know, everything was killing everybody back then.

Yeah. So yeah. So but somewhat has definitely been up there and like restored some of them or put in new markers because they look brand new. Just some of them.

So we're like one around looking at all of them. We just keep finding really good like 20 graves up there. Wow. And so I mean, it was overgrown.

We're having like pulled up grass back as it was like above our heads and some places. So like be able to read the stones, but it was crazy. Okay. I and I was like, this is my dream.

This is my dream. I was obsessed. I was very happy. I so I've got to tell you on the same note, my child has been we we drive past graveyard every day.

And all he talks about is death. Now that is a new thing for him. And he's like, well, why what's in a graveyard? And I said, you know, bodies of people who died.

And he said, Oh my gosh, this was like, it's so you remind you it's like 715 in the morning, and he is into these really in-depth conversations. So he said to me, so when you die, your body goes in the graveyard. And I said, well, sometimes, sometimes people with their bodies and graveyards. And he said, Oh, where did your mind go when you die?

I was like, wow, this is a 715 in the morning. I was like, that's a really in-depth question, honey. And so we had this whole conversation about like kind of our belief system and that, you know, we believe that your mind and your, your consciousness, your soul, you know, goes to heaven with Jesus. And he got really upset.

And he was like, but I don't want to go to Jesus. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, like you're, you're not going to die until you're really old man. You know, we had this conversation. And he was like, okay.

And he took a beat and he said, are you going to die? And I was like, yeah, I am. I was like, but I'm not going to die till I'm a really old lady. And he was like, until your legs don't work.

I was like, yeah, probably. And he said, he was like taking all of this in, you know, and so I didn't want to like scare him. But we talked about all things die, plants die, birds die, dogs die, every, everything that's living will eventually die. It's kind of the, what happens.

But you know, there's beauty on the other side. And we're kind of talking about that. And now he's obsessed with my grandparents who died, my dad's parents who passed before my son was born. And he said, can I see a picture of your grandma?

And I was like, sure, honey. And so I showed him this little video that we made when she had passed, you know, like a memorial video. And he said, no, I want to see a picture of her when she's dead. And I said, well, okay, I mean, I do actually have one of her in the casket, but I was like, he's four.

Should I show him this? I was like, yeah, preschool age. I did show it to him. And he was like, Oh, yeah, he was like, you know, you got her that blanket.

So let me tell you, my heart's kind of like skipped to be because I was like, wait, what? How do you know that? So when my grandma died on Christmas day, and for Christmas that year of 2017, I had gotten her this basket of like different kinds of snacks and things that she would like. And I got her this blanket.

It was a blue blanket. And when she died on Christmas, we decided in the casket to put the blue blanket around her. And how would he know that? No, we don't talk about that.

Then he started saying, eerie kind of stuff to me. He was like, you know, she she died in her blue chair. She died in her chair. Yeah, she did.

Nobody told him that. How does he know this stuff? And he says things that I'm like, Geraldine, is that you? I'm like, I've even like reincarnated, but he has these weird, like, I don't know if it's being intuitive, or I don't know what this is, but it is so creepy to me because that's a very specific thing that you wouldn't know.

Right, that he's just saying, yeah. Like, how would you know that? That's funny. Yeah.

I think he's just a really intuitive kid. Maybe, but he scares the day like that. He's like, he's like, he's so well spoken to, like, for his age. And like the things that he'll talk about, like, I feel like I've considered have like a full conversation with him.

Yeah, he's pretty deep. Like when he stops talking about, you know, normals and weiners, like when he's like, not like being silly, you know, and he asks these really in-depth questions that has me going, wow. And even, even, you know, like, with my background as a clinician, like when your child asks you these questions, it's like, I better say the right thing. Right.

I don't want to lie to him. Like I don't want to like, you know, oh, there's magical fairy. Like I don't want to lie to him. I want to be very honest and open, but there is like a line of like, what's a deproborious?

Right. Like he had a friend who was in a really significant car wreck. Yeah. And he overheard my mom and I talking about it.

And he was like, are they're pictures of the car wreck of the car. And I was like, yes, there are some that she had posted on social media. And he was like, I want to see it. And he was like, okay.

So I showed it to him. Yeah. And he was like, wow, look at that kind of destruction. He was like, that's amazing.

She lived. And that's what he said. And I was like, you're for like, what is happening? He just is just intuitive.

That makes me feel like, okay, like an old soul. He is such an old soul that I am almost for certain like, not certain. But I don't know if I believe in past lives necessarily. But he kind of has this vibe to him that feels like a dude's been here before.

And I remember he's been on the block. I told him about how he told me how he was a man. And his legs got cut off. Yeah, he told me one day after a bath that he was like, you know, when I, my leg got cut off when I was a man.

And I was like, honey, what are you talking about? Like, I just thought he was tired or something. And he said, yeah, he was like, I worked at the construction site. And he was like, my a boulder fell on my leg.

And I had to amputate my leg. He said, they had to cut my leg off. And I was like, Oh God. And he was like, and for a while, I was walking with only one leg.

And he was like, those guys, and he changes his tone of voice. And speaks like, like a man would speak. And he said, those other guys at the construction sites were laughing at me. But I could do 10 times the things they could do.

And I was like, what is happening? And he said, but then it was okay, because I got my my other leg. And I was like, your other leg? And he was like, yeah, he was like, the doctor gave me a leg.

And it felt like rubber on the inside. He's talking about a prosthetic head. How does he have any kind of concept of what a prosthetic would feel like? That's so bizarre.

It is the weirdest thing. And he's not a kid either. That's like, like, you don't do a lot of screen time, no either. So it's not like he's like unsupervised, like looking at like, watching, you know, even get kids, YouTube or whatever, where like random things come up.

It's like you're not like, that's not your type of parenting. No, which like, I mean, I mean, watches, he'll watch like a, you know, Paw Patrol or like a monster truck video, you know what I mean? But no, he does not. He doesn't have a television in his room.

It's all like, we watch it together. So yeah, I don't know where this comes from. But then he was telling me, so then I said, well, what was your name when you were a man? And he turns it off and says, I don't want to talk about this anymore.

But there are things that make sense. If you think about it, like, he's overly cautious about things. Like when we go out in nature, he was like, are there rocks here? And I'm like, why do you care if there are rocks here?

Are there big rocks? He was like, are there big rocks here? And I'm like, who? I mean, maybe.

And he was like, oh, I'm scared of big rocks. Yeah. And then like, he'll say things like, actually, when he was younger, when he was learning how to walk, it took him a little while to walk. And he was going through PT and the PT person said, I really just think he has a fear.

Like, it's not he doesn't have any like limb, you know, issues, like he is just fearful. And he would always like be really strong on one leg. Yeah, he remember, like, when I would watch him, like pull up things, he would only pull up on one side. Yeah.

And like, it was almost like he couldn't figure out how to get that other leg under him. Sorry, that's my dog. There's probably a squirrel in the yard. Yeah, God forbid.

God forbid. There's a squirrel. Yeah, he was always really partial to one side versus the other. And it was like getting enough strength in that other leg to kind of work.

I don't know. And so he talks now about, do you think that Jesus can make somebody's legs better? Yeah, I was like, honey, Jesus can heal anything. He was like, do you think he could heal legs?

I was like, sure. Absolutely. So yeah, your dog's here for attention. She is welcome, Kelly to the podcast.

Kelly, hello. We've actually heard you we have heard you as a puppy in the podcast. I know. I know.

She's like, I need to cut her her toenails because she's like clacking. Oh, she is. Hello, ma'am. Can you exit the room?

We're working. We're working now. You are welcome to lay down on the floor. Okay, bye.

She's smelling the cat. I know there is cat people on the floor. It is dried. It's real gross.

It kind of blends in with the floor. It does. So I think that's why I'm not usually in here like a lot, a lot. Yeah.

So you don't record without me. Right. Yeah. So that's kind of what it is.

It does blend in with the color of the floor. So honestly, you wouldn't really see it. Yeah. I'm not offended by puke.

Yeah. It's one of those and now that it's like crusted, I'm gonna have to like spray it and let it sit and then come in and like scrub the floor, which I'll do later today. But speaking of death, Kelly, can you exit the room or go lay down? She looks hurt.

Bye. Out. Oh my gosh. She's like tucking her head.

Like this is a good one. Bye friend. Okay. So speaking of comfort food.

Yeah. Sorry. We're going to talk about a deathbed confession. So you texted me that this was a story that you're going to and I'm so excited about it.

So this is a very, very recent, like within this past year, like April-ish of 2024. I think I know the story. Is it the... No.

Okay. Okay. Okay. We're gonna talk about Susan Carter and her daughter Natasha, who actually works with my Alex Carter.

And they are from West Virginia. Sorry. I just wacked the thing here. Probably a really hard time.

Anyway. Okay. It's the morning. It's the morning.

Yeah. Yeah. So at the time that Susan Carter, who was 41, went missing with her daughter Alex, who was 10, she was in a really contentious custody battle with her, with Alex's father, whose last name was Lafferty. I think his first name was Robert, but I don't think I was first.

So the daughter didn't share the last name. No. Okay. So he...

Yeah. This was the dad Lafferty and they were in this really intense custody battle over Alex. So at the time they went missing, Susan and her daughter Alex were living with Susan's new husband, Larry Webb, as they were living in his home when they disappeared. So at the time, police were like, well, this is looking at the evidence that we have right now.

This seems like a poor one full abduction. Yeah. Seems like the mom took the girl in the middle of this custody battle and left the area. Do we know what year this was?

This was in 2000. Oh, okay. So August 8th, 2000 was the last time that they were seeing him. Okay.

So and they interviewed Larry and he was like, I don't know where they went. They just up and left and they're gone. So he didn't know where they were. So that's really all the investigation that happened.

Did they check with dad? Yeah. Dad was like, he's the one that reported the missing. He's like, they're not here, like they're gone because they're in the middle of this custody battle.

So he's like, where the heck? That's odd that the live and boyfriend wouldn't you know, report them missing. Right. He's the one who would see them daily.

Right. Yeah. So he didn't report them missing. He was like, you know, what is going on?

So the, they interviewed him. He checks out, you know, move on. Yeah. They put an amber alert out looking for this girl, looking for Alex, saying they think it's a potential parental abduction.

Let's find her. Which would make sense. Right. So that's really all that was done in 2000.

And then so fast forward, like 20 years, there's nothing. We haven't found anything. They're still missing. So in 2001, the FBI announced a new, like renewed push for answers.

So they were going to circle back and like try to figure out, you know, what has happened here? 2001. 2021. Oh, 2021.

Yeah. So about 21 years later. So they put this out there. They're requesting everybody.

It's, you know, there's not a whole lot of information about the 2021 investigation that like they re interviewed the father, they re interviewed Larry, they re interviewed, you know, anybody who was around during that time, reissued, you know, the amber alert with like a age progressed photo of what Alex would look like now and what Susan would look like now to see, you know, are they living somewhere else? Assume names, he recognizes people that this is what we think they would look like, that kind of thing. So that's kind of what was going on. There was a new like financial reward that was out during the time $10,000 something crazy.

So big push for that. So fast forward a couple years in August, 2023, police come and they are like, we're going to search Larry Webb's house to see if there's any like evidence that we didn't look for the first time. So a question, did they search his house initially? I guess they did know?

No, no, really. So really, I know. Okay, so that's interesting because to be able to then search it, you have to have just cause like you can't get, you know, a warrant to be able to like go into their house like a surgeon's seizure. So something says that they were suspicious of him, but why were they suspicious of him in 2000?

Right. Just saying. So they searched the house and at the house, there was a caregiver there for Webb who he's, you know, in his close to being in his 80s at this point. So he has dementia and needs a full time caregiver.

So he has a living caregiver and this person knew Susan and Alex when they lived at the house. So she's been around for a while, you know, nose of these people. And in an interview with her talking about the search, she said that the FBI had questioned Larry and during their search, they found a bullet in the wall. So they remove the bullet and it was from a bedroom wall.

They remove the bullet and it has blood on it. And so they're like, okay, and through somebody's body, right? This is weird. So they take the bullet and they test it, comes back with DNA from Alex, the 10 year old.

So it has her, this bullet has her blood on it, which is just not a, not a great sign. And the caregiver said that they also went in search the basement of them, but didn't find anything there. So this is all happening in August during an interview in September, Larry said, you know, I don't, I have no idea what happened to her. Like I don't know how this happened.

And he has dementia. And they asked, you know, if you remember the last time that he saw her and he said he didn't remember, which I feel like it's legit. And he said, he said, I don't remember, I have dementia. I can't say exactly.

But here's what I will also say. Most people with dementia can't remember where they had the breakfast or sometimes their name, but they can remember things that happened a long time ago. Yeah, they usually like that first, that short term memory, the first to go. Yeah, but a long term memory stays around.

So at the time, though, state police couldn't, you know, they wouldn't confirm or deny what the caregiver was saying happened in the house. So they're like trying to keep this under wraps. Troopers did say they served to search warrants at webs home and were able to identify and recover additional forensic evidence related to the investigation. So still very hush hush in 2023, which was last year.

So web, you know, he's in poor health. And the officer that was, you know, over this investigation was saying like, you know, he's not currently in custody, but they were working on getting enough to arrest him. So they're now thinking he has something to do with it. He's likely.

Yeah. So this guy says it's a logistical process that we were dealing with, but it's my full intent that he will be taken into custody and lodged at the southern regional jail. So he's like, he did it. So, you know, they're kind of going through all these steps that they need to ensure that he is incarcerated because they don't have a body.

Right. You know, all we have is a bullet with her blood on it in the house. And that's, you know, that's pretty much it. So he was indicted in April of 2024.

So a few months ago, and was sent to the Mount Olive Correctional Complex, which is a more of a medical facility. It's still a, you know, a jail per se or prison, but it's equipped to deal with like, dimensional needs, like a little dementia or cancer or anything like that going on. So they are talking to them, they're still talking to them and trying to figure out what happened. And eventually they get him to say that he murdered both women.

Oh my God. Yeah, details. So he told investigators that he had shot both of the women. So both Alex and Susan wrapped their bodies in bed linens and put them in the basement for two days while he dug a shallow grave in the backyard.

So the prosecutor said that he confessed that he shot Carter during an argument over missing money and then shot her daughter to avoid detection. Wow. And got away with it for like 20 something years. So did they immediately go to the backyard?

Yes. So while he was at this correctional complex after he had spoken to them and given this full confession, he did have a medical episode that they were treating. So he was able to, before this medical episode happened, he was able to be brought to the site that they were excavating. So there was a landscaper who lived nearby and he showed up with a crew and two excavators to assist the investigation in digging, which is kind of like odd to me, but also like maybe they just call in whoever has an excavation.

I would think that it's twofold, right? Because like would police just like be handling an ex? I mean, because you have to be skilled to be a citizen. Yeah, you have to be like trained on how to do it.

Right. So I don't know if they would just like contract that out or who you sounds like it or they were just like, Hey, we're gonna be digging up this yard in this landscaper. If I was like, listen, I got you. I got two excavators on there.

I feel like that's Hey, if I could operate an excavator, I'd be like, oh my gosh, but then you also want to be very cautious not to disturb. Right. So it's a very like, yeah, that's very delicate process. And that's what they're saying.

They said like, you know, they're sitting and digging, get your shovels, but he's having to like slowly take off like layers of dirt. And they turn the soil over the entire backyard at about a depth of four and a half feet. So over three days they're doing this. So they bring Larry out to this excavation site and says that, you know, he knows that they're buried out there somewhere, but he can't remember exactly where he gets the camera member.

So they take him back. And the two operators that are working in this way, there's had to go like row by row by row. This must have been a pretty large. Yeah, I mean, it went into the woods a little bit too.

So they're having to like, you know, bush hunt. Yeah, kind of have a clear land and like do all this to figure this out. So on Monday, though, they discovered the bodies. That was the third day straight of digging.

And they found the bodies obviously they were very decomposed. Yeah, they were just wrapped in like linen. So there's no preservation of the bodies. But the prosecutor said that, you know, by the way that the crime was detailed to us by Larry and the conditions they found the bodies, it confirmed for us with a high degree of certainty of the two bodies found or those of those of Susan and Alex.

So they were discovered that Monday afternoon. Larry that morning had suffered a medical episode and was taken to the hospital. He was pronounced dead six hours before the bodies were found. Wow.

Wow. Yeah. You know, I'm just gonna say this is a kind of justice that like, I mean, it sucks that he didn't get to serve time. But yeah, but thank goodness, because could you met?

I mean, they probably never would have been found. No, they never would have been found. You know, and he serves like, you know, his last little bit of life in jail. Yeah, but but obviously not long.

You know, he got to live, you know, his whole life with these two bodies in the backyard. But he has crazy. Yeah. Here's something that I wonder back in 2000, weren't they looking at the house or the proper like, wouldn't it be like weird?

Like, it's so strange. There's like, you know, dirt disturbed in the backyard. Like it looks kind of odd. Right.

Yeah, no. So like I said, at the time of disappearance, there was a custody battle and they just they assumed that there's parental abduction. So when a reporter asked about the initial investigation into the initial report in 2000, the response they got was let's call that an aunt, let's call that ongoing at this time. But mistakes were made upfront that we were looking into clearly, I would say, by the state police.

There are two dead bodies in the backyard. I mean, and they've been there since 2000. Yeah. And you're like, mmm, parental abduction, don't even search the house.

We'll just leave it there. That's why I checked out. We have hands of it and move on. Yeah.

So yeah. What's really like, kind of gets me is there's a news conference. Alice's father, Rick Lafferty offered advice for those missing a loved one. And he said, never give up, just never give up looking.

And he didn't. He, you know, he kept searching, kept looking for his little girl this whole time. And to know that she was like in still in that same town. And also is kind of just, you know, here they were murdered.

And the focus has been, oh, this mother took the child away from the dad, you know, like it was like almost demonizing her in a way. Yeah. And she's also a victim. She was a victim in this.

They both were victims. Like, you know, and that for him probably changes his mindset as well. Because, you know, when you're going through custody stuff, it gets, it gets, yeah, I mean, we've both had, I know friends that have been through, you know, pretty, luckily custody. Mine was easy.

Y'all is very easy. Yeah, it's, you know, like, like seeing that process and like watching, you know, friends go through that, it's like, man, that is really hard. And then especially if it's like, you know, I don't know what their situation was, but like when it's kind of like an abusive situation or something like that, you're like, Oh gosh, I wish they could just, you know, pack up and run. Yeah.

But yeah, it's one of those impacts. Yeah. Absolutely. It's all.

But yeah, I feel for this the dad and this mom and obviously the little Alex. Yeah. And she only died because she was a living witness. Yeah.

You know, yep. Oh, disgusting. But I'm so glad. I'm glad that he confessed.

But like what about that timing? Yeah. Confess. And then you have a medical episode like any day, few days later and then you're dead.

But but I, you know, since we're talking about Jesus and all things like he got it off of it. He, he told. Yeah. And he gave peace to a lot of people, even though I mean, he's the one who took them away, but he at least confessed to it.

So maybe when he goes, you know, before his judgment, he will at least have done the right thing. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

For sure. Send as a send as a sense. I know. I know.

It's one of those like, yeah. What a story for the Fourth of July. I know. I have a few defendants day.

Bring your mind and your soul and your soul. If you have anything you need to discuss. Maybe today's the day for you to do that. Exactly.

After you have that burger and beer, yeah, just, you know, go ahead and relieve your soul of whatever crimes you committed. Exactly. Yeah. We'll be here to talk about it.

We'll be here to hear them, if you need to email them to us. And we'll like, keep them safe. We'll get it. Well, I feel like a priest all of a sudden we're gonna get it.

Yeah, we have no, like we have fashion. We absolutely will turn it over to the authorities. You're welcome to tell us first. Absolutely.

If you want to get a good run of like how you're going to say it, you can send it to us. Could you imagine us getting an email like confessing to something whole league? I mean, God, what can we confess to you right now? I actually still told that paper from the Aldi the other day.

What? Yeah. It was in the bottom of my cart and I was like, it was so crowded in there and I was trying to like just get in and get out. And there was like a line behind me for like the self-check registers.

I'm like scanning all the things. I'm like, okay, I got everything and I press the thing and I'm walking out and I get all the way in my car and I look at the bottom of the car and I'm like, crap. I'm not going back in. Well, at least now you can.

Yeah, with toilet paper. Yeah, they still not going back in to, you know, pay for this toilet paper. I felt bad, but I put it in my car and I rolled out. I was like, I'll put, you know, I'll do a good deed or something maybe to make up for that.

Yeah. So pay for somebody ahead of you in line at the Chick-fil-A. Yeah. I mean, I hate the, like, I hate the ones, especially like the angles where they make you put everything on the, like, wrap their way to putting it in.

There's not, but like part of music, oh, I get it because like I have accidentally like a self-check stolen things, like not intentionally. So like, imagine how easy it is to like intentionally steal things. Absolutely. Because I'm like, I'm sorry.

Exactly. So if you're an employee of all these, I'm so sorry. Well, I did steal like a, it was like $10. You know, here's what I'm going to tell you.

If you want good toilet paper, you get it at Sam's. Yeah. You can get a lot of it that lasts a long time. And you know, I think it's like 22 bucks.

It's, it's a good deal. And we buy it. The two of you like, my son, I know he doesn't buy it. He doesn't have a job.

He is, he is not employed currently. But no, I buy it for the two of us. And honestly, I think it lasts six months. I'm not kidding.

So it is worth it. Worth it. Yeah. I also don't have a Sam's Club membership.

I don't either. So my dad does. Right. My mom has one.

My dad does as well. Yeah. I might just do that. Bar the card go there.

It's worth it. Their paper towels are also amazing. It'll last a long time. Nice.

And we go through paper towels like crazy. It's worth it. Cool. 100%.

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And I think I messed up every single one of them. That's fine. But it's fine. You got to shout out for us.

I do and much like you, I need just a quick second to be able to find it. I know. It's one of those. It's like, Oh, we're going here now.

We're ready. We're ready. We're doing it. How fast can you do it?

Boom, boom. How fast can I do it? Well, thank you for asking. Well, if you have any like fun plans for the fourth that you want to tell us about, you can also do that.

Yeah. Do you do anything like big for the fourth? Not really. Not really either.

Well, and the fourth is a Thursday. So it's, it's, you know, one of these weird days where it's like, you know, I work a whole week. I have to find summer childcare for my son who is off that entire week. So it's, so we're recording this, you all, spoiler about a week in advance.

Yeah. A couple days in advance. But yeah, so I work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm off Thursday and then Friday. So my friends got him Wednesday, Friday, my mom has him Monday, Tuesday, and then I'm home with them on Thursday.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's tricky when you're, you know, you work and in the summer it gets, it gets tricky.

Yeah. For sure. And when you have a, you know, school aged kids, but not like an old enough school age kid that they can kind of have themselves. Yeah.

No. Oh, no, I would never, right. He could not fit for now. Believe me, the child is out of the room with me for two seconds while I'm in the bathroom.

And I'm like, okay, good. I can just like go to the bathroom. And then next thing I know, can I come in and I'll say, because we worked on knocking. Yeah.

Oh, privacy. We've got knocking. And I'll say, no, you may not. And he'll say, okay, and he'll just come on in and I'm like, let's try that again.

He's like, well, he's not the knocking. Yes. I think he kind of likes it because he thinks it's funny. And so he'll go back and he'll say, okay, and he'll close the door and he'll try again.

Can I come in? And I'm like, I think I told you no the first time. And he was like, are you a pope in in there? Yes.

He'll say, okay. And he'll come on in. And I'm like, I don't have an invitation. That was to deter you.

Right. Deterred you. Yeah. But it sounds amazing.

So yeah. All right. So shout out Happy Independence Day to Arnold Maryland. He's very much for listening to us.

And we hope that we didn't deter you from this name in the future. Yeah. So we'll talk to you next week. Y'all bye.

Bye.