EPISODE · May 5, 2025 · 15 MIN
Deep Dive into Religious Affections by Jonathan Edwards - Persons Having Religious Affections of Many Kinds, Accompanying One Another, Is Not Sufficient to Determine Whether They Have Any Gracious...
from Reformed Thinking · host Edison Wu
Based on the sources, having many different kinds of religious affections accompanying one another is not sufficient to determine whether a person has true gracious affections. This is because false religion, while fundamentally flawed, can produce a great variety of false affections that resemble gracious affections.There are counterfeits of all kinds of gracious affections, including love to God, godly sorrow, fear, gratitude, joy, zeal, desires, and hope. Individuals without true grace are capable of experiencing resemblances of all these affections, and nothing prevents them from having many of them together. In fact, it often seems to be the case that when false affections are raised high, many attend each other.This co-occurrence is often driven by counterfeit love, which acts as a fountain from which other false affections flow, much like streams from a source. When this counterfeit love or a strong, deluded perception (like a false belief of pardon) is intensely felt, it can naturally excite a multitude of other passions, including joy, fervent affection, admiration, gratitude, and zeal. These can arise from mere principles of nature without supernatural power, yet they can create a very great similitude to true experiences in their appearance and description.The key difference between true and false affections lies not in their outward form, variety, or intensity, but in their source. True affections flow from true divine love (a "sweet water" or "good sap"), while false affections flow from counterfeit love or natural principles (a "poisonous" source). While the outward "channels and streams" or the "tree's shape" may be alike, the nature of what flows is fundamentally different. Therefore, the variety of affections alone is not proof of genuine grace.Reformed Theologian GPT: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-XXwzX1gnv-reformed-theologianPatreon: patreon.com/edi_reformed
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Based on the sources, having many different kinds of religious affections accompanying one another is not sufficient to determine whether a person has true gracious affections. This is because false religion, while fundamentally flawed, can produce a great variety of false affections that resemble gracious affections.There are counterfeits of all kinds of gracious affections, including love to God, godly sorrow, fear, gratitude, joy, zeal, desires, and hope. Individuals without true grace are capable of experiencing resemblances of all these affections, and nothing prevents them from having many of them together. In fact, it often seems to be the case that when false affections are raised high, many attend each other.This co-occurrence is often driven by counterfeit love, which acts as a fountain from which other false affections flow, much like streams from a source. When this counterfeit love or a strong, deluded perception (like a false belief of pardon) is intensely felt, it can naturally excite a multitude of other passions, including joy, fervent affection, admiration, gratitude, and zeal. These can arise from mere principles of nature without supernatural power, yet they can create a very great similitude to true experiences in their appearance and description.The key difference between true and false affections lies not in their outward form, variety, or intensity, but in their source. True affections flow from true divine love (a "sweet water" or "good sap"), while false affections flow from counterfeit love or natural principles (a "poisonous" source). While the outward "channels and streams" or the "tree's shape" may be alike, the nature of what flows is fundamentally different. Therefore, the variety of affections alone is not proof of genuine grace.Reformed Theologian GPT: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-XXwzX1gnv-reformed-theologianPatreon: patreon.com/edi_reformed
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