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EPISODE · Apr 7, 2026 · 35 MIN

Discerning Deacons and the Art of Ecclesial Listening

from Called to Lead: Pastoral Leadership for Today’s Church · host John Rinaldo

In this episode of Called to Lead, host John Rinaldo sits down with Casey Stanton, co-director of Discerning Deacons. Casey shares her journey from parish social concerns ministry to leading a movement focused on the renewal of the diaconate and the inclusion of women’s leadership in the Catholic Church.The conversation explores what it means to lead through a process of discernment, the current status of the Vatican’s study on women deacons following the Synod on Synodality, and how pastoral leaders can create spaces for honest, Spirit-led dialogue in their own communities. This is an invitation to consider how leadership isn't just about making decisions—it's about "discerning" the path forward together.

In this episode of Called to Lead, host John Rinaldo sits down with Casey Stanton, co-director of Discerning Deacons. Casey shares her journey from parish social concerns ministry to leading a movement focused on the renewal of the diaconate and the inclusion of women’s leadership in the Catholic Church.The conversation explores what it means to lead through a process of discernment, the current status of the Vatican’s study on women deacons following the Synod on Synodality, and how pastoral leaders can create spaces for honest, Spirit-led dialogue in their own communities. This is an invitation to consider how leadership isn't just about making decisions—it's about "discerning" the path forward together.

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