EPISODE · May 3, 2026 · 1H 12M
Does the term “permanence” help or hinder outcomes for children: Family Justice Council Debate (Part 1)
from The Relational Social Work Podcast · host Matt and Hannah
Send us Fan MailThis weeks’ episode is something a bit different from our usual format. From the sunshine of Matt’s garden, Hannah and Matt listen back to the Family Justice Council Debate which Matt was a part of in December. This episode brings you this debate, which was hosted by Sir Andrew McFarlane, the then President of the Family Justice Council, and alongside Matt, Tom Wilson (1GC Chambers), Dame Annie Hudson, Professor Julie Selwyn CBE (University of Oxford), Cathy Ashley OBE (Family Rights Group), and Lorraine Cavanagh KC (St John’s Buildings) debate whether the term “permanence” helps or hinders outcomes for children.Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected and join the conversation on our social media channels! LinkedIn: The relational Social Work PodcastInstagram: @RelationalSWVisit Our Website and Subscribe to our mailing list: www.therelationalsocialworkpodcast.com
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