E114 Kayla Davidson

This week's guest is Kayla Davidson. Kayla is from Kichowater, Lou, and God, her start in the industry while still in high school, working out in local landmark Angie's Kitchen. Kayla has spent a number of years working all aspects of front of house and various bars and restaurants, she managed a clothing store, and even spent time working as a go-go dancer at one point. Currently Kayla is working out Babylon sisters while she pursues her degree, and also has her own side business, Lost Lola Vintage.

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Oh yeah, same crap as always. Get up, go to work. Come home, possibly really? And uh, repeat.

Come on, baby. I don't even know why I keep asking you. Yeah, this is working for a living stunt stunt, it's not for me, what do you do? What do you think about this guy?

How long we came? Long weekend was good. We're recording on May 24th. We had a good long weekend, which was a shocker in the bar industry, so I'm excited that it was at Sugar Run Downtown Kitchener and Babylon Sisters, left down Waterloo, check out both those spots.

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How are you, Kayla? I am Dandy. Dandy. Dandy.

The most fun is out. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Thanks for doing this.

Okay. Well, let's just dive right into it. Tell us a little bit about how you got your start in the service industry. Well, it wasn't really anything super intentional.

I was in high school when I started at Angie's Kitchen that most local people are familiar with. There was a location out in St. Aga Faz. So I got my boyfriend at the time.

I had a CRX to drive me to say Nachtus to bus tables. Nice. Yeah. So that was kind of my first experience.

It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to continue and start, I mean, I saw some sketchy things. They like to recycle their bread there. That's total. Yeah.

So you ate some of that bread. I don't know. I just got bread. Yeah.

Those dinner rolls? Oh, yeah. That was for definitely another table. Oh, yeah.

That's good. That's surprising. Shut down. I don't know.

I'm sure other people still have the beans on that. But yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good to know.

But we can't do that anymore. So whatever. But it's not when you move to Michigan, correct? Yeah.

So when I was in high school, this was a one-boyfriend leader. I started dating someone that was in Michigan and his family owned a Thai restaurant in Birmingham. So when I would go on my March break or summer break, I would always go down there and help out at the restaurant. And that was kind of my first real experience serving.

And I could actually serve there because they didn't serve alcohol. Right. So and it was all under the table. Yeah.

Obviously. Yeah. Because they're Canadian. So and like, okay, what do you think?

How do you feel like that specific restaurant prepared you for a further service industry jobs? I think I've always gotten along with people really well. And I'm pretty, you know, like, I'm approachable. I like to chat.

So, you know, it was just the best way for me to be my best self and chat with the people that I come in on their lunches. And I mean, I think that was when I got the first taste of like the money that comes to serving. So because following that, I had, I ended up moving there when I was 19 and then just started serving full time. And I lived across from Amal called the Somerset collection.

And that's in Troy. And so I would work my lunches and I would go spend all of my money at Tom. It was great. It was 19.

Like, what better? What else do I have to spend money on? Right. Yeah.

And so the whole time you were between you were to the same spot. Yeah. And you had the same boyfriend obviously. I did.

Yes. And so I'm guessing when you moved back this goes, you found a new boyfriend? That's right. I went from one right to the other.

Okay. I left that boyfriend for another boyfriend. There was a period there though that you were a Google dancer? Yeah.

So while I was living in the States, to the family that owns the restaurant, their son was in film production. So he also, like, you know, he kind of had his side hustles while he was in university and they did like a promotion company. So they would do like promotions with hypnotic liquor and different types of hypnotic. So I'm a girl that loves to dance.

What can I say? That's, you know, I can't play any instruments, but I say that my body is my instrument. Right. So, so cool.

So I, yeah, like, I, I, we would go to this club called Club Fusion and it was outside of Detroit and they would always, I was only 19. So I was definitely drinking under age. And in the States, in the bar scene, like money talks, it doesn't, I just, I noticed such a difference there and compared to here for drinking under age, like, they're much, it's much easier to drink under age there. Yeah, I remember that from when I was growing Kingston.

So Syracuse was very close to there. But I always go there because I like it amazingly as like a 16, 17 year old who was using it for the drink of Syracuse and Kingston. Oh God, like I was drinking when I first started going down to 17, like I was drinking at the bars because if you knew someone, that was just, that was it. It was super easy.

So at the time, because I was dancing and, I mean, I was drinking, doing some other fun things. And so I, you know, I liked partying at a young age like this only kind of, this is not good. You know, like I was partying in high school pretty hard. And like, I, once I started doing the Go Go dancing, you know, I could drink there and, you know, had some other fun with other things and I, so I lost the dream of that there.

That's okay. You like to, you like to dance. I like to party and I like to dance. I still do, but like maybe a little less are you.

So yeah, my friend, they ran a promotion company. So basically we would just get hired. It was like such good money. Like I would dance for three hours and be 500 bucks.

Really? Yeah. I should have gotten to go go. And I honestly, like I'm not kidding you.

I love dancing. So it couldn't be, like it was just perfect. I was like, yeah, yeah, I can have the dancing that I would normally do with the bar except I would dance where, you know, it's like exactly what you pictured to be with like those thai had boots and short shorts. So you feel like you're definitely on display, but whatever.

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Yes. There was Cajas. Oh, were you in a cage? Yeah.

Oh, at least Molly. Yeah, I know. Are you like every 19 year old string? Did he caged?

Yes, yes. I was doing a really good job. Well, Cajas are amazing. Why don't you get some cajas that took a run?

Totally. You absolutely should. I don't know. You're a whole other crowd.

So how long have you been doing that for? Honestly, just a few months. That sounds like it's been fast money. Yeah.

Yeah. I had a good time. You know, like I was a good time with the plates. Yeah.

Would you do it now? I'd say if you knew your children were going to find out. I don't know. Okay, listen.

Let me tell you. So last week, I ended up having to go, I'm going outside trackies. That's what we do on the show. Okay, so last week we went to the Beechles concert.

It's the Guelph concert theater. This is because my third, so I bought the tickets for my 13 year old for Christmas. This was between February. I got moved and then my 13 year old ditched me to go to a fucking slumber party.

So I'm like, oh my god. I heard that slumber party also. Okay. You know what?

It got canceled. Oh, it did. Oh, I wish you'd dressed up. Well, it got kind of, it was like one of those awkward things.

I was like, oh, well, now I've like made my all my other arrangements like getting Ryan my husband's and then come and then yada yada. You know, so then she was like, well, I don't want to incant and sing to anyone. Then she was like, she didn't want to come. I was keeping my offer to get her a ticket.

So we went, let me just say it was really over. It was the show was over sold. It was in Guelph. We left early and then we had, so we, there's six of us on our way home from Guelph.

What else is lit up in the middle of the night on the way home? The manor, of course. So we went to, we were like, who wants to know the manor? And like, my husband was not expecting everyone on the car to say yes.

So we all said yes. And then we went, thank you. Thank you. No, I don't know.

He looks very uncomfortable. I was like, oh, this is like my fourth favorite. So we went to the manor. Let me just say wasn't very busy.

No, we got yelled at by a stripper. Why? Because well, I want to say in perfect for help. Because I'm like, if you're going to be a stripper club, that's where you should be.

Yeah, but you got to pay attention to what you're about that. They don't like the phone and shit. Why we weren't on it. I was trying like not to make to contact like, you know, it's one of those things we want to pay attention.

But the, like, the like the one, the first one, she was just like in tons her smiles staring right into my soul. And I was like, this is uncomfortable. Then the next one, that was another story. But then her dad, her dad, her dad, she yells out, I'm fucking bored.

And I was like, oh, I'm sorry. Maybe we didn't bring our like, dollar bills. I know that she was not happy. So speaking of, like, you know, what I want to do that, like, I guess strip clubs are fun.

Because it's like, man, I would do this. They used to be fine. Yeah. I got a feeling like, he's not the fun.

I don't know. Well, COVID is not the fun. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a little bit different now, I think. I think they just all dance in those big inflatable balls. There's nothing like there. It's right in your face.

Yeah. So you decided to go back to KW because you found a new guy and then like what you did decide to stick around in the service industry. At this point, you realized you're gonna make some good money. And what was the next job?

Symposium. Oh, sort of. Oh, it's a good job. Oh, yes.

Yes. Yes. That was, uh, it was really, it's kind of like a blur. Because you know, it was short lived.

But I don't know. I'm never, you know, there's that one thing when you serve sometimes and you, like we all work places where the kitchen's behind or the bartender's behind and the server, you have to carry the weight of that. Right. And it's like, well, you have to keep apologizing to your tables as to why their food is taking board by minutes with the drink.

Symposium was like actually the worst for that. It was mortifying, like the amount. It would take like half an hour for a drink. Yeah.

And that's the fucking worst when you're going to a table. And it's just like, you know, it's completely out of your control. But the customer, you're the one that's facing with them. So there's like, in their mind, it's your fault.

It's always your fault. And they keep making the eyes with you and you try to avoid eyes, but like, you're like, oh, fucking hiding in the kitchen. I'm hiding in the kitchen. Like, this is the winner.

There is no difference. Oh my God. But that is, let's talk about that for a little bit, because that's one of the worst fucking situations. Like, I don't know if you've actually discussed this on the show before, but that's the situation where you're like, you know, it's not your fault.

It's sometimes it is. Sometimes you forgot to put the order in or some shit like that, which is even worse because then you feel worse. But like, that, even if it's not your fault to say that cook or something or they forgot and whatever, smoke or make your order or whatever, that situation is awful because you know, you've ruined the time of the person sitting at the table. They're pissed.

Maybe they have somewhere to be. And like, and the only person they have to take it out is you. 100%. And I think like, you know, one thing I've learned over the years of serving is just being honest.

You know, like, whether it is a kitchen, I try to like, well, like, have I lied and make a but have I like, come to them? I think it's like, just coming to the guest and be like, hey, so the kitchen fucked up your order. Like the kitchen rest of you all, I try not to do that so much now. But you know what the truth is?

Like, I'm thinking right, like the honesty does help because it's a long way. Yeah, like if you're just like, look, it was mistake because there's something going to be pissed no matter what. Because like, and I know for those people, I'm always like, well, if you can get this upset about this, then your life's probably pretty easy. Yeah, I don't know.

Like people just, I mean, working in the service industry, you just get a little bit of taste of everyone, right? Like every personality good and bad. But most people, if you're just like, I do think you're right that most people, if you're actually honest with them, like I said, I've lied to people tons of times I've been able to play on the kitchen when it was my fault or whatever. But the kitchen knows you're doing that too.

I know that tip, man. Yeah, and they don't have to see the people face to face, right? 100%. Yeah, so like, they don't mind if we did that for the most part.

But I have found, I think, that the people I was actually directly honest with, was it was a better situation than what I lied. Absolutely, I feel like there's, I don't know, like maybe you just read my mind, but there's like, almost like, no, I don't know. Like, there is, well, well, because like recently I, I bought a lot. I like Miss Depasta.

And it was my first time back, like fully serving in four years. And I knew I was, I said to Janine, I was like, I'm either in a sink or swim. I was like, I'm glad it was busy, because it got me on my feet. And I think, especially with serving, the most times I fuck up are when it's slow.

Like, that's when I fuck up. Because I'm actually a good, a really observer. And, you know, but in this situation, I was just like, oh, being kind of back in it and then like missing something and then like missing, being busy on the new system, so on and so forth. And then going to and I'm just saying, I apologize that you, and I was honest.

I took, I took responsibility. Yeah, that's what you got to do sometimes. And I think that like, at least reasonable people are going to understand that mistakes happen. And then if you just own your shit, I got me personally in real life, I can't stand people who lie and don't own their shit.

So it's better to be that way when you're serving, like, I'd rather somebody tell me, I fucked up, I forgot whatever, than to be like, make up some bullshit excuse. And then I know it's a lie. And because they ever more I find them later, it's a lie. And I'm just like, just own your shit.

Like it's, you know, like a life lesson. It is a life lesson. That's what we're doing. We're doing that life lesson.

I like to think I'm wise. Can I get you a drink? Oh, you're so, yes. And speaking of drinks, why do you think that?

You should, if you're interested in some amazing wines to sit on as Dan is pouring wine for Kayla right now, you should look into Rick I'll be drinking. Okay, so after you were just opposing, what was the next five? Well, some hosium tainted my taste of serving. It's a franchise.

Okay, so when I started working there, I cannot remember who owned it, but then eventually they ended up selling it. And they, so it was so funny because like, I trained when I was training there. So they were, they still owed me like maybe $400 for training hours. And then be when the new owners took it over, they hadn't paid me my for my training.

And the new owners didn't end up paying that out. Right. Like what the, you're taking this business, you're taking those like that's what's it? That's what's it?

That was part of the tainter. But yeah, they what was your question? Oh, yeah. It was like, because we, well, when I left it was someone named Omar, but it is a franchise.

Okay. And then the individual owners have the franchises and all that. Yeah. So I don't know if the one in Waterloo is still in existence.

I think it might be. But yeah, way up there by the landfill. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I kind of, I never wanted to go there again. Great place for patio. Yeah.

That's sulfur smells. Yeah. That's what you're looking for. Yes.

So you're looking for when you're sitting on a coffee or whatever. It was kind of a cafe, right? Yeah. Everything good brunch, but like again, never wanted to go there because it literally took forever.

Right. Yeah. So I do the tainter off. Where did you end up after that?

So I took a little break and I was working in, because I kind of, but like up until I started school, I've kind of been back and forth and forth between serving and sales. So I worked at a clothing store for a little bit. Right. To a cool break.

And then once I left there, I went to the Duke. Oh, yes. This is a very famous long standing regular style pub in Waterloo. Yeah.

Yeah. And so what was the crowd like there? Like serving for the most part? There's a lot of white hairs.

It's wild. Like I've never seen such a diverse crowd of humans, except I'm abstract, which I also worked at the same time as the Duke. Because yeah, you'd have, if I worked my breakfast shifts, you know, you had like all the soccer, like Scottish English guys coming in, or just like drum university students coming in hungover. And then working during the week, it was like people there to see, you like that would go really just to see like skinny fat, which is like my tasl band or, you know, any of those acts.

But yeah, it was a very unique crowd. And I'm rather annoying. You know, like, I think of the age I was, I was definitely more like equipped to deal with that crowd, but I definitely couldn't do it now. Yeah.

That's some, I kind of feel the the same way about working at those. I don't think I can go back and work there anymore. It's very similar crowd. It's like very lots of people with different age groups, kind of everybody goes there, but it's like very much a regular spot, right?

I think the same people almost every day. And that's where we're going to get down after a while. Honestly, like I couldn't, okay, I don't know what you think about this, but I honestly cannot believe the amount of people that like, and maybe I sound like a dick, but like, you know, certain age group go there every single day for like three hours after work, get wasted to a point of like, you know, are you all right? Yeah.

And like, just, you know, there are people out there, the dukes getting so drunk in the middle of the day, like pissing themselves on the stool. Seven year old men's putting their hands up my kilts. And you know what, like, to be honest, I never, what I never understood was how the establishment was like, okay, what that happened. So they didn't have your back in a situation like that?

Not really, no. Like, did you ever complain to them specifically about it? Yeah, there was, there was one, you know, why there was a, I'm fine with saying this, like, there was a kitchen manager that worked there, when I worked there. And honest to God, he was like, abusive.

Just the verbal abuse, the, he, I was pregnant at the time with my first child. And I can't eat at raw, like, I'm like, egg yolk. Okay. And he intentionally made my egg yolk runny.

Yeah. Like, who does that? So he, anyways, like, he would sit there and get drunk every night after work. And he lived in Cambridge.

And the amount of time was like, this came up and nothing was done about it. I'm just like, man, like, you don't care. This is like on our shoulders. Like, obviously, you know, as a server, if you're the one over serving, yeah, you're in your home, like so many times.

So I think just, there was a lot of acceptance. Like, it was like, well, a lot of the regulars were friends to the owners. Just the way it is, right? Just the way it is.

Like, doesn't really matter. And I mean, I can't say that I never benefited from those things. Like, I'm sure I should have been kicked out of our many a times. Right.

Yeah. But it's a different era in a way. Like, not, it was never appropriate, but like, they're thinking about the service industry. It was very much that way for a very long time.

Whereas like, that was, it's sort of like you knew if you work in the service industry, then that sort of comes with it. Especially for like, the women, right? Like, who work in the service industry, obviously get away worse than men during that time from coworkers and customers. Yeah.

That's the thing. Like, I think that's, you know, in just certain places, you're going to work, unfortunately, where it doesn't really matter to them. Like, if you're being sexually harassed by patrons. Like, we didn't even really talk about it.

Like, that's what it was at the time. You know what I mean? But it is, right? Like, all 100% it is.

Yeah. But like, it was just kind of like, oh, yeah. Like, because I always say it on the show that like, I grew up in the ass slapping era of the service industry, where it was just kind of like, people were touching people all the time, customers, coworkers, whatever. And you've just realized I was part of it.

And now, you're like, how fucked up was that? Like, it was pretty fucked up. You know, and I think the problem is too, like, you get so many servers at places like that, that like, for, I was 21 at a time. And you know, you know, and I'm a strong-willed person.

It's not like, I have an issue saying what's on my mind. I never have. But at the same time, you're 21. And you don't want to, like, make a, make a sting.

Rock the boat. Yeah. Or you feel kind of like these people have, like, especially if these were old men that were going to establish for 20 years. Yeah.

Like, who's going to lose that debate? Yeah. Who's going to face that? Like, who's going to face that?

Or like, who's going to face that they can replace tomorrow? Exactly. That was a massive problem in the industry. Do you feel like this has got, I mean, I know you just sort of just returned to the industry.

But like, even since that experience, do you feel like it's gotten better? Or do you feel like it's the same? I guess it's hard to say because like, the environments I'm choosing to work in now are different. And I have that.

Like, I've made a choice, a personal choice that, like I said to you, is like, if I was going to go back to serving, it had to be the right place. Because I actually just can't physically, mentally take certain, like, environments. So I, but I, I don't know, like, I think it doesn't matter. Like, for example, you know, I was somewhere the other night and it was like, these two women had left and these two men were hitting on them.

They clearly didn't know each other. And then as I was about to leave, like, these gentlemen bought me like a massive, like, they bought me a glass of wine without asking. And I'm just kind of like that assumption was like, behavior. And like, when I'm actually ever fused, I decided to drive giving me a dirty look and telling me to fuck off.

Like, that happened? Yeah. Like, I just, I don't know. You know, it's, I don't think it's changed that much.

I think it's like, maybe we don't see it. Right. Like, where we are. Yeah.

So yeah, and to that point, like, at the same time, we're gonna do, we're gonna have to go to where I'm sure you saw a lot of that shit. Like, we're gonna nightclub with a bunch of fucking horny 20 year olds in there all the time. So how was that experience? Honestly, like, I loved abstract for so many reasons.

I mean, it's the place that I wish was still in existence. But I, there was, well, because I know recently, this is a side note, and I do that a lot of typologies. But there was two ladies I had asked me when I was working the other evening, if there was anyone for over 25 to go dance. And I said, sadly, really, no, there isn't a bad, COVID killed off almost all the night clubs.

Totally absolutely. You know, and that's like, that's, that's unfortunate. But working at abstract was really fun. Like, I think it was a good, it was a good gig for me at that age.

And, you know, I liked to party. Yeah. So, you know, I would fit, I would work Friday nights and only from like 10 to 12. Oh, it's perfect.

I would like, you know, get ready. Like, it was basically, I was like, I was going to the club. Right. Yeah.

Get ready, work for a couple hours. And then I would drink after and I'd get like, as drunk as I possibly could before the last call. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's what last calls for. So then you weren't that king crab for a while. Let's talk about that place.

And yeah, that was, you know, it's interesting because my mom actually worked for King Street Trio. So that's kind of how I had that like connection. You know, I don't think it's a secret around town that the owner of that restaurant or like knocking crowd anymore. But King Street Trio, you know, he didn't pay on his servers.

Right. Their tips. Like he owed some servers thousands of dollars. Thankfully, yeah.

Yeah. And it like when a lot of servers were afraid to quit because then how like, as a server, there's real, no, there's no labor laws that really like that you can get your tips. No, if you if you want to be an asshole and keep these tips from your servers, like you kind of can. Unless the servers are going to go and sue you like in small claims, which is like not that they have a lot of money to do that.

No, that's it. Right. You can go to small claims, but good luck. Well, it's like, well, you owe me $2,000 to how much is this going to cost me to fight you?

Right. So yeah, I work taking crab. I honestly like, I don't love working places where there's like, oh, you get like everyone gets cut. But it was just like at that point in my life, like I really needed the money.

And so for me to like go in for an hour, wait around, just see if I would stay just or, you know, and then oh, we don't need you to say like it just wasn't. You want me to come in? Yeah, it's coming. I wait around, not get any tables.

Like it was ridiculous. Polish some cutlery. Yeah. You know, so I'd make my like $13.

I don't even think it was that much at the time. And then go home. Right. So I just like financially wasn't great.

I was a single mom at the time. And then again, like not getting payouts for my tips was brutal. Yeah, that doesn't sound right. I don't know.

No, like it was awful. And like actually having to like year like a year later contact the owner and having to like demand my money. Like you owe me this money. Yeah, I didn't get it.

I got it and like this is what makes me laugh. I got it. I got it email back saying that I had to wait like two weeks and then he would send me a portion and then another portion. I'm like, this is like $500.

Like if you're a business owner and you really can't like pay that out to me. Like that's right. I guess honestly that's stuff. Like you can't.

The one thing I know is like the buying restaurant business is very like it's quite a roller coaster ride with how much money you have at any given point. But like the one thing you got to do is take care of your suppliers and your employees first and then anybody else can get paid later. Yeah, it's just like you know, it wasn't even like obviously should happens. And you know, I don't think people are ignorant to that.

Like if you if something happens or check bounces or whatever, like we're all human and these things happen. But like literally all of the servers were owed like. My tips are not though. The tablespoons might like that's no, they're not.

They're not directly to the servers. I was not like using that. But like that was a place that very few people act like I remember every night people just hoping to God that their cap tables beat them in cash. Like imagine having to live like that now.

Like you would navigate. Even every tips. Yeah, that's a new world too. Like where you're relying on people to give you your tips usually in the future because everybody pays like card now.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I hold that that's not the case anymore. Yeah.

King Street Trio still in existence. Is this the same? I'm sorry. You know what you never run into problems with?

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Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's, there's so much to any business that goes on in this service industry, but it's funny. It's like, I think it's like, I think it's why so many people sour on the service industry and get out of it entirely. But many people as well, they sour for a little while and they get drawn back in.

So now it's, according to my notes, you work at a place called Babylon Sisters. That's right. Yeah. And also my duilloward that I has a bar that I own.

I was an, oh, yes, yes, I was a winner. It's great. You should go over fabulous. Exactly.

She's always done her tips. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah.

No, it's, it's definitely been. And so I, I will say that I had taken a job of power before. And yeah, and like I went for two shifts and I, first of all, I hadn't worked in like two years second of all, I like had worked in the service industry of warriors. And I pretty much had like a minor panic attack there and I was like, oh my God, I can't see myself serving brunch every Sunday to be like all these people.

Like literally, I'm going to hate my life. And it just like was not because I did, I did work at the charcoal state Carlos, which was really great for many reasons. I mean, I know you've had a lot of people that worked for the charcoal group on. So that really, like fine tuned a lot of serving skills that, you know, I still carry out with me now, but I just didn't want to work for them.

So that, conveniently, you were looking for people. And now, now you find your dream job. Yeah. Absolutely.

I feel social again, which is great. Yeah, it's kind of, it's hard to, when you're having kids and like you're sort of in and out of it and out of it and then the pandemic hits and then there's a little part of you almost forget how to be social in public anymore, right? Oh, totally. Like I felt super awkward for when I did what I did, when I did go for those two shifts, I actually like didn't fully know how to socialize because I mean, not only were you having only been socializing with like no one really, or like our small little bubbles, you know, and so like going outside of that and then it'd be so busy.

It's like, oh, yeah. So I'm definitely, but I've really enjoyed, you know, the last month that I've been about a lot, it's been nice socializing again. And like, do you find it? So I was talking about somebody talking with somebody about this the other day that like, do you find that the customers are still like, like, there's a, they don't know how to behave in public anymore, do I start next time?

No, I think that everyone seems really grateful to be where they are. So I think that's like as an employee, I feel grateful to like be working and serving you and like, you know, whether I don't, like I have not been masking at work, you know, and it's that I'm enjoying and just like seeing people's faces and having like a conversation and honestly, like there's been no real chat of COVID because COVID kind of became like the weather, you know? So I think when it's when I'm going to a table, now the conversation is much more about the wine that we're serving and like, you know, other things that are going on in life and I think it's so refreshing that we've kind of got back to that and people, I think, you know, there's a little sense of like, awkwardness, like, almost like, oh, can I do this? Oh, can I do that?

But everyone just seems super grateful. That's good. Yeah. And I hope that we're slowly getting back to it.

This seems like something we're just going to live with from now on. So it's not going anywhere. So hopefully everybody gets that through their head and people start coming out again. Well, thanks for coming on the show.

Okay. This was just very fun. And thanks for working with our last sisters. People are checking out out.

Yeah. And those of you who are going to tell me at the case for wine, rickatthecaserwine.com. And here we are, the side hustle as well, that we'd like to know a bit more about. Oh, yeah.

So I, I'm definitely not a person to sit still. So I decided that I should incorporate my love for fashion and shopping with the sustainable, of course. So I do have kind of side hustle called loss, loss, low advantage. So I do sell some things online, but I've definitely put more of my time and efforts into organizing markets.

So they, the markets, like I run them under makers and thrifters. So they'll, they're usually featured on my Instagram page, loss, low advantage. But I'm hoping to have one come up in the next month or so. Yeah.

Potentially a battle. Yeah. I'm at right now. So stay tuned for that.

Makers and thrifters by way of loss, a little advantage at Babylon sisters. Well, that's up. That's a mess. Well, we're going to have to find a way to pair that down a little bit.

A little bit. As long as you get in loss, a little advantage. That's the most important part. And a lot of sisters.

All right. Thanks again. We'll put those all in the show notes that people follow you online and on Instagram and yeah, we can come on. Thank you.

All right. Thanks very much.