E120 Myesha WIlliams

This week's guest is Maisha Willio, who joins us from Sunny Los Angeles, California. Originally born and raised at Memphis, Tennessee, Maisha got her start in the industry when she ran at a job at Coyote Ugly in Memphis. Maisha earned her degree in theater and eventually decided to move to L.A. to pursue an acting career.

While in L.A., Maisha worked several mobile bar tech gigs and that works at SoHo House in West Hollywood. Make sure you check out Maisha on Instagram at Maisha 2.0 and that is spelled M-Y-E-S-H-A 2.0. Enjoy the show. Alright, welcome back to another episode of the industry podcast.

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My usual Williams coming to us from Los Angeles. How are you doing? Well, I'm doing great. Great.

Yeah. Thanks for doing the show. Thanks very much. Thank you for inviting me.

Yeah. Well, and thanks for dealing with our fuck up and scheduling. We got, my niece and I got up to a good start because we totally, I totally boned the date. We thought we were going to do it last Wednesday, but we're doing this Wednesday and she commented it as anyway.

So thanks again. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right.

So let's just dive right into your career a little bit. My usual, you were, yeah, it's time. We're talking about you now. Let's go.

You were born in Tennessee, correct? Yes. Maybe it's going to be a zest. Oh, nice.

So yeah, talk to us a little bit even before we get to that. But growing up in Memphis, because that's such a cool city. Yes. So Memphis is home of the blues and the barbecue, you know, a lot of rappers.

It's my view. The people there are very real and blunt. So when I moved to Los Angeles, that was very different. They're like, my usual, why did you say that?

Um, it's just really, it's gritty. And I love it. It's the sound. A lot of people think it's like more Western or something like that.

Like all, it's the sound. Right. But yeah, I love Memphis. I wouldn't move back home, but still it's really nice to have that as a home.

Nice to visit. Yes. And how old were you when you left? I believe, okay, hold on.

Three years ago, 27. 24. 24. Thank you.

You're welcome. Okay. So growing up that you obviously went to high school and did some school. You went to trauma school as well in Tennessee.

Yes. Is that right? Yeah. Yes.

Okay. So what, what point did you realize you wanted to be an actress? I think I was in high school. Of course I did some little stuff when I was in elementary school.

But when I was in high school, I joined this, this speech in the Bate team. It was called Forensics. And it's not about the, what do you think it is? It's mainly about I would go to solo acting competitions and do it after acting competitions.

Some are actually speech in the Bate where you're arguing. And yeah, I excelled at it really fast. It was really fun. I, on prom night, on the day of prom night, I made it to state.

My mom and I was so excited about me going to prom. I'm like, dude, I just made it to state for solo acting. Like, and after that, I started doing some plays. Charlotte Swill, I was the mom.

And after that, I did community theater. So that's how I was like, oh my gosh, this is really great. Like, I love it. Yeah.

Because I'm like, I'm wild and I have a wap to now. So it just fits me. And so I assume that's obviously was behind your decision to move to LA in the first place, correct? Yes.

Yes. So did you do any bartending in Memphis or did you? Yes, I did. Okay.

Talk to us about the places you were working out there. So it was one place and that was Coyote at least solo. Right. I was there for three years.

Actually, let me just say the story about that. So I was a senior in college and I have an enterprise. Oh my gosh. It's a play.

And I was struggling and I just fell board and alone. I was, I don't know, I just didn't have something to move on or to look forward to. And of course, I feel like everybody's going to move regularly. Yeah.

So the movie and I went to Beale Street with my friend, drinking and just hanging out. And my friend got me to get on the bar and I was like, all right, that's fine. And the girl, she said, you should work here. And I was like, really?

Yeah, girl, you can dance here. I'm playing spirit of person. I was like, okay. So I plowed there the next day.

Everything's been nice. But yeah, I was there for three years. And I got a chance to bar to in New York, the location of New York for a couple of days. And I got a chance to bar to in Austin for South by Southwest because you get a chance to travel.

It'd be really great. Yeah. And San Antonio. Bartender for one day because they had an anniversary party.

Now, the best thing about it is anniversary parties. If you don't get fired from Coyote, they have each location has an anniversary party every year. So it's two hours of free alcohol, crazy dancing. It's amazing.

So that was a really great experience to start my bartending life out. And did you feel like working in a place like that is almost a little bit of acting as well? It was, actually, it was, I was performer. Because I was this bartender and I was also dancing.

So we had to learn, I think, three to five dance numbers. One was the double went down to Georgia. one was workbench by bringing spears, copy a road, and two more, I forget, but yeah, it was a lot of hosting, getting people to buy fireball shots, so you can pour fireball in their mouth, it was dancing on the bar, walking on the bar. Yeah, you had to have the mic, you had to have the mic to see shot time.

So that was, yeah. And what was it? I was acting though, I was performing and having fun. Yeah, yeah, let's kind of like performing acting.

Yeah. So like what's the crowd like at a place like that though? It's a dive bar, so a lot of people during the daytime, of course, they're tourists, so they come in to see how the bar is like, and they always ask, is this the boring movie? I know, sometimes I lie and say, yeah it is.

Yeah. But the tourists come in at a day time, and at night time, everybody wants drinks, everybody wants shots, they want simple stuff, second coat, manga readers, really simple stuff. Of course, we were by a college, University of Memphis, that's the college I went to, so there's a lot of, can I get a vodka, water, or a vodka spider, fireball shot? And it was like, ugh, like, ugh, like, so it was a lot of craziness, I've dealt with bar fights.

Well, I didn't deal with it, I watched it instead of the side. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah. It's just been a lot of craziness that's going on, working in that bar, especially that one, because it's from Memphis, so everybody, they want to have the tenon beat up, and they want to do this and that.

So, yeah, of course, after you're living in P.M., it gets crazy. Right, and what about, like, you're kind of on display, like dancing on the bar, you're dancing for the guests in a way, like, what was it like with, like, creepy dudes and, or creepy women, you must... I am so glad we had B.M.L.S., they were our security, they sent for a bad motherfucker. Oh, yeah.

I said it's too proper, bad motherfucker. But the rules were, we wrote the rules down on the mirror of the bar, so everybody could see it, it's one of the rules was, do not such a girl's own bar. Right. So, you know, a man can get on the bar, only women, I'm in apartment bar, and of course, if you, one time you'll warn them, take a time, you gotta step back or they're gonna kick you out, and those bad motherfugglers, they're gonna push you out, they don't just, they don't just, they don't get out, not even push back.

I feel very safe and respected, 95% of the time. Of course, people get drunk and it's like, you know, no, I'm not gonna deal with this shit. Sometimes it's bad when a guy who's buying all of the shots and tipping you so much money, and he just, too drunk to follow the rules and it's like, fuck, he gonna have to give us one, you know, it's just like, but that's the first time I talked about, I learned how to hustle and how to be confident. And man, I'm bartending, it's like, you could talk your shit.

And I've been a bartender at Hooters, but I fucking hated it. I can't talk my shit and bartending, who does something there for three months? And I was like, no, you're not gonna talk to me like that. Yeah, so they don't, that's the difference.

They, like, a place like Hooters, they don't, they kinda want you flirting with the guests, so they don't want you to talk shit back to the guests, so they don't have your back in that situation. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Okay, so you move to LA, obviously, because you're, and you wanna get into, you wanna further your acting career, that seems to be the place to go.

So what was that, like, talk to us about that? Like, that's kind of a big move. Like, what prompted the decision and how was it when you got it? There was a overwhelming or?

I got lucky. So I was applying for jobs. Okay, let's go back. I graduated from college and I was bartending at Calumice, and I was like, hmm, I wanna live a double life.

So I was working for a nonprofit as a teacher assistant in Memphis for a year, and they had another position in Los Angeles, and I applied for it, and I got it. I wasn't teaching, I was painting murals on school buildings, well, planning it. So people like the Dodgers or CAA agency, they would say, like, we wanna get back to the community. And I'm going to be going to police out and they're gonna be paying heroes on schools.

So I helped to plan that. And the great thing about it is they helped pay my student on top. So everything else, what reason kind of thing. So I got the job, moved out here.

I got to be honest with you. When I was in Memphis, this is really sketchy to do, but I did it. I saw this place that I really liked. It's really, really, really cheap.

I was like, yo, I have to go with this. And I was coming from my one-bedroom apartment in Memphis, Tennessee, which was 650. And I saw a room available in a four-bedroom apartment for 750. And I was like, I'm gonna get it.

So I paid hard to do the positive before I even moved there, like, because I wanted to keep it. But that could have been a scam. Right, yeah. So I don't know.

I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm never gonna be here. That's risky. Yes. So I moved here two weeks before July, at least I started to July.

I was like, I drove here in my car as well. So I had everything in the lift. I was very good. Oh, three days.

So one day was, I think, eight or ten hours. The second day was 12 hours because the sun stayed up as we were going to the last one was just five or six hours. So it was nice that I was just taking my time. I can't do the whole day.

No. Fuck that. Yeah. So I moved here and I was like, yo, the Airbnb is here.

So expensive. So I ended up saying, and San Diego for two weeks. And to my lease was ready. And then I went back to LA.

So it was a nice experience, I guess. But if you want to talk about, like, living in LA and knowing how the change is where it was, I don't know. It's hard to, okay. So let's just say, I feel like the people in LA, they're very open minded.

They are, they like to connect. They are fake. They are, but, you know, they like to hang around with people that they adore, quote unquote and adore. Like, it's a gift to the place you need to get, which it makes sense, but it just makes networking so staged.

For the first year that I was in LA, I was working two hours a day. So I didn't have time to think about acting except I was, I was the queen Mary for dark harbor. It was so nice. Basically, I did.

I just felt as like a ghost and scared people on a boat. You're going to be home on a highway. So it was nice. Yeah.

Right. So it was really fun. So yeah, so that was just one month and my job ended in the middle of the pandemic. So yeah, so I was like, well, I might as well be a full-time actor, what I have to want to do.

So I was doing background gigs and I was like, oh, that's so fun. Sorry. Sorry. And that's when I got into mobile bar sending.

I applied for a job. It was on Facebook. She was very organized. She was very late to both of the interviews I had.

And it was, she never got any gigs basically, right? So bad. But after three months I was taking out, I realized like, wow, she wants me to be her friend, but not my boss. She's not getting gigs.

Like what's going on? I never got paid through her. Only I want to get through her. And it wasn't like the people paid for the gig.

It was like a gift to them. So I only made $5 in tips and she felt bad. So she gave me $20. I was like, all righty.

So months later, we were just friends. Like, hey, you want to go here? Yeah, that's fine. So we each time it's a friends.

But I didn't work with Harris. I ate up applying for another bright singing job. And that was better. And that was nice.

She had to pay me hourly. So I got some juicy stuff for you. All right. So one day she was like, hey, do you want to buy a sing out of my friend's thing?

And I was like, no, because I have this other bar sing gig that I'm going to do. She was like, really? Is it for like something that you're doing? Or are you working for another person company?

It's another person company. She said, oh, no. She said, so I don't know how I feel about that because my question is on my person. At least a conversation.

And I was like, ma'am. I'm Tammy. Exactly. I actually feel bad because I was like, damn, like, that's how you get them.

And I was like, I've got to go to your friend. And next thing you know is like, I guess I feel bad. But when I talk to my other friend, she was like, she's not paying you. You have to get your bills paid at the end of the day.

I'm like, I'm talking to you, I'm like, girl, that's controlling us. Another just part is I think three weeks later, I started up Facebook page to help our bartending business outside and get more bartending stuff, start working with her and work with other companies. And just I'm an actor. So I'd rather have my acting stuff on one page and I'm bartending stuff on a different page.

And that's when I was doing, not yet. But in that time I started doing YouTube videos of bartending and things like that. And I didn't want casting the ricks to think, oh, wow. She's just like, oh, wow, she's just like going to bikini bartending.

I wanted to separate it. Hang on a second. That was your gig? That was your YouTube?

No, no, no. For fun. I just did that and I thought I thought, yeah, the bikini bartending. Yeah.

I was auditioning for a piece in my friends at Maisha, just have your own bikini bartending show. I'm like, oh, how did you find, did you find you going to get a good reaction from the YouTube stuff? I honestly don't think so. I do not get YouTube and SEO.

I'm going to try again. And for the next time, it'll be different. So we're probably going to get to get close on. I don't know.

I think it'll be on YouTube. I mean, it's working to be on TikTok, too. Right. So yeah, I wanted to have a double life too weird.

One page was acting and one page was passing it. Right. And I called it other day. I said, hey, girl, you okay, what's up?

She didn't reply. And she texts me like six or seven hours later. And she said, no. She sent me an email.

I wish I could pull it up her deal for the email saying, hey, I hope you're doing well. I just want to let you know that I just walked across your new bartending page. And I said that your local bartender in Los Angeles, and I just want to say congratulations. What are you doing?

But from now on, you can no longer be a part of, I've forgotten so far to come. So, you cannot be a part of this marketing company because competition is like that. And I was like, I called you, say, hey, girl, what's up? You never apply and you send me an email.

Right. Yeah. I thought we were friends. Yeah, yeah.

It was like, I could have said like, yo, I'm trying to get a distraction because, but I'll just like, you know what? It doesn't matter because there's another marketing company. I'm going to be from who's being me. So yeah, that's my toxic past of mobile marketing.

And that company was really great. I love the company I think three months ago, because I have been, I have a job at Soho House, which is no. We were taking it out online before the recording today. That it looks amazing.

Yes. Yes. Yes. So that's a huge step from like going from Kaili, ugly to the Soho House.

Not even that it was a huge, okay. I moved into marketing and LA really humbled me because I thought I knew everything when I was in Kaili, ugly news. Flash, it's a dive bar. Yeah.

Yeah. I did not know a lot of, I thought you just look cute. Make James. Yeah.

I didn't know, I didn't know what a lot of drinks were, which I'm supposed to like, like, if you asked me for App Rowspritz, Dirty Martini, Kaili, ugly, I'd be like, what? Right. I guess we're going to be ordering those drinks. All right.

So why would you have? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's a lot of just like, what? So I moved here and I did mobile bartening for a party. I love her so much. I'm going to say that coming because I love her.

But yeah, the curly bartender, I worked with her for two or, I think, two years of my time in LA. And she was very nice, very sweet, very flexible because I am an actor. So there were times where I had to say, oh, I can't work this because I have this, I have a gig going on. I can get going on.

But then that's when I started to learn a lot about, like, oh, this is this is not about that. It's about like the educated bartening because bartening, not like working at Kaili, ugly performing, but bartening is still performing. It's like when you peel an orange garnish, like an orange peel, you garnish it, you don't just stick it in, swirl it around. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's still performing. And now I'm just like, it's like, all right, you know, it was very, it was very simple.

So I'm glad that that was the next step of bartening before I got to the soap house. Right. So like, that's kind of where you're learning sort of the craft of making cockroaches. But I was still cocky.

I was like, do like, I traveled to bars. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. So, yeah.

So, yeah, so now I did it at one point, I did go to bartending school because I wanted to learn more about the craft cocktails, about I just want to learn more about it. At that point, I was like, I'm fucking dumb, but I was like, just because I'm not making enough money and like, like, I want to like take a break from acting, like, because I don't want to do background. And I didn't have like energy to barks anymore. And it sounds and honestly, I did have their words and skills for I got drunk.

So I went to barks at school and they like, I guess it gave me more of a push to learn more cocktails and be more of an exologist and no my shit basically. So if somebody has something, I'm always like, if somebody has anything, I'm like, what I'm there, but I do this. So much and it's like, no, we got it. Sorry.

I'm like, girl, like, come on. So yes. So yeah, so the bartender school was a little bit of a little bit of stuff. It was nice.

Much to know it's kind of to get in and get out. If somebody didn't approve me because I don't like to dive, I'll be like, well, I have my person is difficult. Right. Yeah.

So when you're bartending in LA and you're doing this different gigs, and are a lot of the people you were you're working with also trying to be actors? No. Well, when I was at Kelly bartender, I think I was the only actor. However, there was a lady she used to be a dancer, but everybody's just bartending and doing other stuff.

Yeah, it's a whole house. I think I mean, maybe two people that are actors and some person and another person is like, I think I want to get to acting now. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, all right. Yeah, go girl.

It is weird to talk to people that like it's not passionate about it. It's not something I've ever got to. So not a lot of people that like give up on it. So it's hard to talk to certain people about like my passion.

Sounds like, you know, or like even if they hit a big commercial, like, oh my gosh, girl, yes, let's go. Inside it. Sometimes it's like, I don't know, it's more about like making the money at El Barca because Soulhouse, I think it's the most of me in a week. It's been about something that we can spray.

Talk to a little bit about the crowd that goes to the Soul Club because it's like, it's a membership club, right? Yes, it is. Yeah. So what kind of people are you serving there?

Sometimes I feel sad because it's a member's only club. I just feel bad because it's something up until it's a certain amount of people in LA. But imagine it's everybody would involve some walls. Right.

But the crowd, each crowd is different. I believe that each building, I feel like the West Hollywood location is more of the city crowd who, you know, nice people go, proudly they'll go and leave in a workshop. People want to look nice and flashy, but the one I work at on the other way is more of a really chill vibe. They're trying to get more, I believe they're trying to get more of PLC and LGBTQ and like to have like a chill vibe that you don't have to, you know, just do too much.

Right. You don't have to do too much to like just be just honestly be and chill. Yeah, people are way out there like, oh my gosh, I love you because the person is here so nice. I shouldn't say that.

But the people, the members of Soulhouse, they come to Holloway and say we really like this location because it's very chill and it's very vibey. We have a rooftop, not cool though, but a cool rooftop in Nice Bar. We have cool captures. It gives me a Californian 70s vibe thing.

Yeah. It's right on Sunset Boulevard or is that the other one? Not the other one. I don't know anything about LA.

It's two that's in West Hollywood. But it's two that's in Hollywood and I'm in the one in Holloway and Halloween was Hollywood at two different vibes. But it's nice to work in a bar that's sponsored while it's crazy and stuff, but it's also nice to take my time and get used to the more drinks that people are going to ask me. Yeah.

So yeah, just chill people chill vibes and it's weird. It's the most they do it and I'm like, well, I don't have to work it hard. So you feel that like you're still learning with regards to like bartending and craft cocktails or do you feel like you've got a good handle on it now? I have a good hand on a lot of stuff.

However, there's some drinks that I do forget like depending on the cocktail. Yeah. Well, that's everybody though, right? Yeah.

Nobody can remember all the cocktails. There's too many other things. Well, that's a go. That's a go.

Oh yeah. But honestly, I feel like Bart's in it wherever you go is still the same because it's like your goal is to ask what they want if they don't know what they want, tell them what they want and get the drink out there. And if you're busy as well, get the drink go on, get the drink go on. So lately it's been like, it's been just one where I'm able to learn the Soho way because the Soho way is different from Coyote way.

So I've learned more of the Soho way and that's where it's changing. It's a new building. It's a new location. So I'm still learning about how to be more flexible in the Soho way and still be happy as a bartender.

So yeah. But it's kind of interesting too, right? Because you're right, like you talk about the difference between the Coyote ugly way and the curly perpart under way in the Soho way. But in many respects, it's funny you move to these vastly different spots.

But the job at the end is the same. You still got to tell people what they want to drink if they don't know what they want to drink. And you move from spot to spot, but it's the same gig at the end of the day. It's just exactly.

I'm always like, I've worked in a ton of places. Well, I'm always amazed by how similar the job is. You feel like you know when you started at a new spot that seems a little bit overwhelming, like starting to Soho and then you're just like, holy fuck, and you're all nervous about it. And then you get behind the bar and you're like, oh, I'm just bartending again.

Literally just, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm obviously there.

Okay, with your working around your acting career as well. They've been okay with it so far. When I I told them I was an actress. There's some people who shy away from me telling people they're an actress, but no, I that gives me anxiety.

No. I tell them that I'm an actress in an interview and they say it. So we won't give me full time. So we want to make sure that you can be full time.

And I say, yeah, I can be full time. But I just get to go. Yeah. Well, it's better to be honest up front, right?

Because otherwise you're like fucking hiding it. And then you're constantly just calling and sick or whatever. Exactly. Like, no, I don't.

Yeah, no. So I already had dates saved. And I always get scared of that because I'm not about a trip planned about something planned. And I was in the place.

I was in the Virginia loss. And it was already scheduled before I got hired. And I had a birthday before that that we can I could not work. So that's something like I cannot be available for these weekends.

You see when I hired me. And they say, yeah, no, that's the best thing I guess because of our own myself. I would rather just have that information up front than find it out later when you're trying to climb on a second. Right?

Like, yeah, there's some people even like, I don't know, they like lie or try to like, there's some people who they're really comfortable in saying like, you know, I can't hear for acting. And like, I get it. I can't even practice too. But they're so like, Oh, they're not gonna let me take off.

All right, I'm just waiting to go to the next one because this is like, I mean, like I get it. But I don't know about, you know, but I'm not trying to go to job job. Like, this is exhausting. It's really exhausting.

So so with that, it just, yeah, I'd rather be up front and like, let them know. And because the thing is, we're not starting working at Seoul House before time, I stopped doing back and work completely, because I'm getting paid the same amount of money or more actually. Oh, no, more a day. So it's kind of like, I don't care.

I only say yes to commercials and I'm trying to get into a film or I just did a play. But they asked me to do another one. I was like, chow, the play was free. Like, it was not paid.

So it's kind of like, like, I respect job, but right now I just need to get my money right now. Like, that's me. How much of that do you find that you have to do? I'm sort of just interested in the acting part of it.

Like, how much like free work did you feel like you had to do before you were finally like, fuck it, I'm just gonna start turning mention them. Well, back home, I had a lot of theater that was free or for $300 this week's. It was like a slightly kind of thing. But being a background actor in Los Angeles is literally just like a regular job.

You get the $15, $16 an hour. Yeah, it's like that, or you get the daily rate. You still get paid even low budget music videos. I still got paid the lowest I've gotten paid, I think was $100, $150, for eight hours.

And I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know.

Oh, my gosh, my standards back in. Yes. And now that I'm learning, I'm like, oh, you know, I went about the casting websites and I'm like, okay, this is good. But now I'm like, when it comes to commercials, I have to look into it.

And I'm like, I have to be in fucking sec. Like, I don't know, it just because if you say it, I'm not sure I know what I'm gonna get paid and make sure I'm good. But like lately, it's been like, if I'm in something, and I'm waiting on money to go, that's why I took a break from my discourse and I get gigs because they were just so hard to kind of get here, kind of get there, like I'm trying to get here acting, get there. It was so hard.

I'm like, you know, it's like fucking breaking, be like, all right, I'm so fucking like, you know, yeah, yeah, how does any job you can count on, right? Yes. So that is like, it's now soothing. And with acting, I'm trying to be a boss as bitch basically.

So I mean, like, I'm not doing, I'm not doing at all back and work. Maybe the show is cool. Maybe. But it's like, why do I go and work when I know I'm gonna try my hardest when I'm not working to get an agent and get sick, to where I'm gonna get paid and to where I know I'm gonna get one line speaking wrong.

Yeah, what's the process of getting like your sec card, like, go about that? It's literally like Charlie when he was looking for the Golden Ticket, the other type of bars, literally how it is. But basically how it works is there are some gigs, like each gig you do is non union or set or the other affiliates they have. But it's either non union or union.

And if you are non union, you go to a union, they won't have a voucher for you. So it's not like, oh, I just got a union gig, but they have a voucher for you. How you can do it is you go to like a random background worker. Well, it was background, you go to a background work and it's not union union.

Somebody who is in the union who got the gig did not show up. You ask if they have a budget for an extra voucher there, they usually say no, because I'll give you a number show up, they get paid, they show up. And what it's nice to do it, like, you know, obviously if somebody had COVID during your time, if I thought about it, like, I didn't know anything about this, but when COVID, of course, people got sick, they would have like, that's a voucher for you. So you just ask them for, you just ask them for if you have any vouchers, a lot of them every time they say no.

I did one, there's another one where you can have a diagonal media. It's where a very low budget short film take place. And I was at that. And that was called the control.

It was in the festival. Basically, the plot was this guy, he was a rapper, he was a bitch, respecting women, and this witch put a spell on his dick. And it can never be a heart. So yeah, I'll just start throwing money.

That was just my first job. Oh my gosh, that's actually funny. So yeah, so that is when I got one voucher. You need three vouchers to be qualified to sack.

I think, yes, some people try not to do sack because they're like, there's not no saggies with sag new media. That's how it goes. You automatically have your like, that one sack voucher, it could be like the slippage you sign to sign your hourly that you got. It could be contract that you sign.

Another one could be if you get a commercial, but those are even part of because most commercials are not sack. They're non-union. And there are probably more you can do, but that's a good way to do it. Yeah.

And some people, people get very lucky. They'll get into like a commercial or a femme or something. And after that one gig, they have to make you sack after that. Oh, okay.

I'm going to get the best meal with that. I cannot be Charlie Toulon. So yeah. Oh, yeah.

Okay. So we'll let you go soon because you're giving us a lot of time. And you're, you've got a lot of tricks going on today. Well, I was trying to get some kind of the restaurant.

Before I let you go though, what's the biggest show that you've done background on? House party. Okay. So I was background in house party and the whole movie was one day, well, the whole movie, the whole scene is mainly one day.

And I got background and they asked me to, oh my gosh, I'm going to tell you, okay, they asked me to go for one day. And I was like, okay, I'm going to go for one day. I went there and the director picked me to be like the girl to be by the celebrity in the movie. Once you watch it, yeah, hopefully I'll have like, so use me for two seconds.

Welcome to the background. Like, yeah, but it's where I'm pulling the celebrity to go dance on him, but to myself. So until you all do it. But yeah, mainly I am going to sing with a celebrity at house party.

And it's so cool. I didn't even know who he was. Can I just not lie? There's a lot of people saying, you know who he is?

You know who he is? No, you know, you should watch it. Yeah. Well, thank you.

Thanks so much for doing the show. I know you had a lot going on today and I screwed up our original meetings. So thanks for sticking with us and best of luck and everything. It sounds like things are growing great.

It's a whole club and with your acting career, stick with it and you're going to be a good country. You'll do great. So thank you. No, thank you very much for doing this.

Just before you go, that was a lot to find you online. What's the best way to do that? Follow me on Instagram or TikTok. It is my YouTube, 20 NY ESHA 2.0.

The only 2.0 you know. Amazing. Perfect. Thanks again.

Appreciate you. Thank you. Have a good day. Thanks very much.