E169 Tommy Ricketts: The Reckoning Is Coming

Tommy Ricketts is the co-founder and CEO of BeZero Carbon — the company that built the world's first carbon ratings agency, walked into COP26, and got told they were the single biggest risk to the carbon market. That was 2021. By 2023, the projects their critics were defending were in freefall.Tommy spent years at Bank of America training under a number-one ranked analyst, pitching ideas to hedge funds whose entire job was to intellectually destroy you. That background — combined with growing up the youngest of six in a single-parent household in Hackney — produced someone who understands both how markets actually work and why the environmental movement so often gets in its own way.He talks about why not every carbon credit is equal and why that's heresy to the people who built this market. Why a major tech company funded a project pumping millions of tonnes into the atmosphere and called it carbon neutral. Why 50 businesses in the carbon space are about to disappear. And why the faster this market gets boring, the better.One of the most forensically intelligent conversations Second Nature has ever had.