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But what happens when the animals we love so much decide to bend the rules of reality? And then we take a look at the story of a man who gets his hands on one of the most bizarre psychoactive substances on the planet. When he sits back in his bed and takes a long bong rip of some salvia, he thinks he's just gonna have a groovy time. Instead, his journey through time and space may have consequences for all of us.
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Welcome back to another episode of Dead Rabbit Radio. I'm Stacey Storm. I'm having a great day. You guys having a great day?
Dude, I'm excited. I haven't talked about this since a ton on this show. I'm surprised the whole day. I'm currently watching Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice. I'm a big Beetlejuice fan. We actually call ourselves the Juicers. We love cleaning up the Beetlejuice and injecting steroids into our box.
The Juicers. No, I'm super excited. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice cannot wait. But someone who has already seen it, someone who has all the spoilers.
So he's not allowed to talk directly. Coming into the Dead Rap Radio in demand, everyone get on their feet. Give it up for Castro T. Woohoo.
Yeah. He's walking on in with a Zagnut wheel. Juice dances. Yeah.
Dance, dance, dance. Castro T's like I never saw the movie. What are you talking about? Never even saw the first one.
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In September. Like I said, I found this list on the ground that had some unscratched out names. So Castro T. Rear captain or pilot this episode.
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Debra Radio. What's your favorite paranormal show? Castro T. Let's go ahead.
Get this party started. I'm toss you the keys. Ooh, this is a new one I just came up with. Castro T.
I'm going to toss you the keys to a speedboat and everyone get aboard the wabbit water skis. This would be dope. We're all going to hold onto this little bar and put these wabbit water skis on our feet. Cast your t fire at that bad boy.
Take us out of dead Rap Radio command and water ski us all the way out to Oregon. Same state. I didn't think of the sound effect. What does the water ski sound like?
We're water skiing around Oregon. We're headed out to Oregon. Specifically, we're headed to Cottage Grove, Oregon. I don't know where that's at.
You know, I'm up in Hood River, Oregon. Cottage Grove, Oregon. It's June 1996, and as we're hanging out in Cottage Grove, we're gonna meet a young woman near Cottage. We're gonna meet a young woman named Lynn Johnson.
She's currently traveling south of Cottage Grove, driving down the freeway when all of a sudden she gets a feeling that she's being followed. She looks in a rear view. She doesn't see any cars behind her. She's kind of natural.
It's just like this instinctual feeling, like how some people can tell when someone's staring at them. I can't do that. I've never been able to tell when someone's staring at me. A lot of people can.
She feels like she's being followed and she's kind of looking around. She looks over and she sees something running alongside of her car. Now she's hitting like 60, 70 miles an hour. She's headed down the freeway.
Whatever this thing is, it's actually also running about 65 miles an hour as well. She said it was about 4ft tall and was the size of a deer. I thought deer were kind of taller than that, but maybe like the, like the width of a deer. So it's four feet tall, the size of a deer.
It had deer. It had deer like legs. So you go, it's a deer. Oh, it's just one of those old deers at 165 miles an hour.
That's not paranormal. Jason, go on the next story. A deer sized deer legged animal, possibly a deer, but let's keep going right, is running alongside her car middle of the day as well. She said it had deer like legs, but she knew it wasn't a deer.
Not only because it was running so fast, but it was running on two legs. So this deer shaped, deer sized, deer legged creature about 4ft tall was running next to her car on two legs. And if that wasn't odd enough, if that doesn't make you grab a steering wheel and go, whoa, and like, start swerving in the opposite direction, right? Oh, there's Bigfoot.
You're running him over. Hope your first instinct when you see a mysterious creature from beyond the veil isn't to slam into it. But she's looking over this thing, it shocks her. Obviously, you don't expect to see something like this.
It's on two legs, it's four feet tall, running, running down the road. But before she can really react to it, before she can really take what she's seen, it jumps up in the air. And at that point, two gray leathery wings, but also feathered. So feathered, leathery gray wings sprout out of this creature's back.
And then it flew up into the sky and began flying north. You go, okay, what's the weirdest part of that story? I think would be my first question. So is it that you have an animal that looks like a deer?
And she didn't say, like, I have a head of a deer, but it was deer. It was deer sized with deer legs. The fact that it was running on two legs, is that the weird part? Well, deers sometimes walk on two legs.
Is it the speed of it or is it the wing? Jason Gold. Of course, it's the wings that magically appeared from nowhere that's the weirdest part of it. Why'd you spend all that time asking us?
The whole time you're shouting, the wings. The wings. People hanging out next to you, they're like, what podcast are they listening to? You're all, the wings, you idiot.
The wings. So the wings that spread out of this animal's back. There's even one more weird detail. When Lynn told this story, it was originally posted in the Western Bigfoot Society newsletter.
I got it from thinking about it docs.com that they got from the Western Bigfoot Society newsletter. She said that when the wings appeared, they just seem to kind of unfurl or shoot out of its back. The wings were each only about a foot and a half long. So it's like a Subway sandwich and a half.
And she said that it was. The wings did not in any way look big enough to provide flight for this creature. Like, if you have something that's the size of a deer, a Subway sandwich and a half isn't enough of a wingspan to give it any sort of Lift and fly it. Fly away.
That's one of the things I love about the paranormal is. A lot of it just does not make sense outside of the existence of cryptids and ghosts and UFOs. You, when you break it down just physics wise, these small wings, I mean, forget the fact they appeared out of nowhere for the fact this thing was running 65 miles an hour. Even when the wings appeared, it still doesn't make sense.
They had these big beautiful wings, six foot, eight foot wingspan, and it flew off. I mean, I'm not saying that would be less interesting. I was like, oh, that's kind of boring. You know what I mean?
Like the fact that the wings that allow this thing to fly away, they shouldn't be able to function like that again. It's just another reminder of how weird, how truly bizarre the world of the paranormal actually is. But we're not done yet. Castro T, why don't you take us?
Let's all hop aboard the Jason Dwoppy as Castro drives us really behind. Oregon, why don't you drive us out to Puerto Rico? Power. Nice, leisurely drive out to puerto rico.
It's January 14th, 1998. 5:30 in the morning, and here we're gonna meet a man named Carlos David Vargas Montalvo. And he works at the University of Puerto Rico. Specifically, he works at the cow ranch on campus.
You know, a lot of colleges and school, high school around here. We have in high schools, California high school, too. A lot of farming programs. In Sacramento we have Future Farmers of America.
4H. All that stuff. People are working on cow science at school. People go, hey, I want a bachelor's degree and I want it in cow stuff.
And the dean's like, go ahead here, go hang out with these cows. Hang out with these cows for four years. Over there's Professor MOO ltd Everything you need to know. So he's working at the cow ranch on campus, which would be kind of cool because then you would never be late.
You'd never be late because there's always a rooster writing in your face, I'm gonna do this. You won't have to worry about stuff. If you're like, hey, man, I need to get across campus really, really quick. I don't know what I want to do.
You hop on a horse and you're just getting trampled to death. You're like, but at least I'm here on time. You're like, oops, sorry, this is a Tuesday. I'm not supposed to be this fast today.
Riding your horse back to the Cow part of the college. If you're ever hungry, you're just like, yep, eat me of the raw milk. It seems like a pretty cool program if you don't know what you want to major in. Maybe cow science.
At this point, he's at this cow ranch on campus, and part of his job is this time in the morning, he rounds up the cows from the feeding lot. He goes, cows, cows, come on. It's enough feeding for you. The oats have run dry.
Come on over here, cows. And the cows have been trained to do this. When it's time to leave the feeding lot, they line up. You call to them, and they make this line.
They always do that. But this time, the cows have all lined up. But Carlos sees a cow near the back of the feeding lot just sitting down. They're not moving.
Carlos is like, cow, cow. You get over here. The feeding time's done, so it's the sitting time. It's time to come over here, get in line.
The cow won't move. Carlos starts walking towards the cow, and he's like, yo, cow. Dude, you gotta go. It's like, now it's time to get in line.
And as he's getting closer, the cow's not moving. He's starting to think, oh, you know, maybe I'm a jerk. Maybe the cow's sore or sick or hurt, and I'm yelling at him to move. Maybe he has, like, a little.
Little, like, thorn in his hoof or something like that. Maybe he got scared, and he's, like, having an anxiety attack. He's walking over to the cow, but he keeps calling, dude, come on. Get up, buddy.
I'm sorry if you stepped on that bumblebee, but we gotta go. And as he gets closer and closer, he continues to call out to this cow, and it's just sitting there. But then all of a sudden, the cow begins to twist its body one way and then twist back the other way and begins to convulse. He's watching this cow have a seizure.
His body is just twisting and turning in every direction. You can see the muscles tensing up and then relaxing and then tensing up. Must be horrific to see a cow have a seizure. I've seen a human.
A couple humans have seizures, and they weren't £800. They weren't £800 and had cloven feet. He's watching this cow have a seizure, and his body's twisted and turning, and he's like, oh, dude. Like, this is crazy.
I feel sorry for that cow. And Carlos is watching this when all of a sudden two huge massive wings unfurl from this cow's body. And that's when he realizes, like, dude, it's 5:30, 5:30 in the morning, man. This guy is.
I know farmers and stuff like that wake up early, but he's probably waiting for maybe an hour or two. He's like, what? These two huge wings unfurl. And that's when he realizes it's not a cow.
What he's looking at is this massive bird like creature that's sitting on the ground and its wings unfurl. This massive wingspan reaches out and then those wings start to flap and the creature shoots off into the morning sky. Took off at high speeds towards Laguna Cartagena, which is a nearby lake Slash wildlife refuge. Carlos reportedly was in shock for the next several hours and would soon change his major.
He's like, I'll do electrical engineering. There's no monsters in that. I believe that was posted. That was originally reported by Wilson Sosa in Terra Clubs Ovni, which I believe is a like a newsletter magazine.
And that was also reported by think about a docs.com think about docs.com we haven't covered it in a long time. I still keep going through their archives looking for great stuff there. Then as far as I'm concerned, the number one resource for humanoid and UFO encounters, all the great stuff and things like this. Because you wonder what these things are.
And you can. I mean, they both have wings. That's really the only connection. But what's funny is that.
So I have these two stories. There are. I say, come across one maybe every two or three months. They're not super common, but they're by no means incredibly rare.
Stories like this of creatures that look like other creatures who then sprout wings and fly away. I mean, it's really weird if you think about it. It's. You go, oh, these are two weird stories.
No, every couple months I'll find one. It might be an older story like these words. Someone might have posted something recently. We actually did a story not too long ago.
They didn't have wings, but we did stories about horses that the one guy saw the two horses that were sewn together. It's like the two heads and the two forefronts of the body they were sewn together is like this weird creature in the middle of this prairie. I'll see if I can find the episode. But every so often we'll find these kind of glitches in the animal kingdom or however you want to classify these Are these cryptids?
The bird creature might be more classified as a cryptid. Like it was disguised as a cow. And what's funny about that story is that, listen, I'm not an agricultural guy, I'm not an outdoorsy guy. For me to see a large, well, assumed color, if for me was to see a large white shape at the end of a feeding lot full of cows at 5:30 in the morning, and for me to look at that and go, oh, that's a cow.
I'm looking at that from across the lot and I start walking towards them and I keep going, that's a cow, that's a cow. Then it turns out to be a giant bird. You go, well, Jason, you don't really know what a cow looks like laying down at 5:30 in the morning anyways. And that's true.
This guy does. This wasn't his first day working there. He's been doing this shift, he's been doing this job, he calls the cows, they line up. He knows exactly how it works.
So for him to be fooled by something at 5:30 in the morning across the feeding lot and for him to begin walking closer and closer to an whole thing thinking, oh, that is a cow. He's not responding to my calls. It must be sick, might be injured. It's the same thing when I report a UFO versus an airline pilot reports ufo.
They're always looking up in the sky. It does hold more weight. So it's interesting that he was deceived until he got close enough. And you have to wonder.
It's funny because these two stories are only. This doesn't really connect them or wings. I feel like I have to keep going back and forth between them. It is weird if you think about it, because this could be a cryptid, an avian cryptid that does disguise itself as a cow almost perfectly.
And it may even feed on cows or feed on livestock. And if you saw it in the pin, you wouldn't think anything of it. It's possible it's mimicry so good even other cows don't notice something's wrong. And this could be a biological creature that has excelled at mimicking its food source.
So this is a story where we could actually go, this is an unknown creature, but it does fit the laws of physics. We know animals can mimic other animals. We know animals can actually physically disguise themselves as their environment or as delicious prey for their prey. So this one does have those markers that we go, this could actually be a real undiscovered creature in the area as opposed to the first one where it's running so fast.
None of it would be possible in any sort of way that we know of a biological creature. So that is probably something paranormal, spiritual, interdimensional, something like that. This may be a living cryptid. A biological would have a nesting place, may have offspring, so on and so forth.
Interesting. I mean, again, like these types of events and these are just run of the mill, right? These people aren't going on in house. One woman's just driving down the middle of the day, One guy's doing his job and they encounter these things that science tells us neither one of them are real.
Every animal that size has been discovered. There's nothing like that. Nothing can run that fast. Nothing can grow.
Tin wins, by the way. But we have these two witnesses minding their own business. And again, like I said, maybe once. I mean, I do read more of these accounts than most people.
Like I spend hours day reading and stuff. But even then, the fact that I come across one of these stories every two months or so means that there's something going on with this particular phenomenon. Fascinating stuff though, fascinating stuff. It is interesting that I come across stories like this maybe one every two months.
So there is something to this phenomenon. Animals glitching out, animals not doing what they should be doing, or animals that appear as other animals but then are something else. Castro, let's go ahead and touch the keys to the world famous carbon copter. Everyone climb on board.
We're leaving behind Puerto Rico. We're waving goodbye. Carlos is still, he's like, ah, I'm still freaking out, bro. I'm still freaking out.
We disguise the government after he's a big bird just to freak him out a little bit more. We're leaving behind Puerto Rico's kind of eating. We're leaving behind Puerto Rico. Castro, why don't you fly us all the way out to a house in the suburbs.
We walk into this house, I have a key. I have a key to every. I have key to every house in every story we've ever told. Except for the true crimes, except for the unsolved murders.
I don't have those keys. I let myself in. I go, hey guys, come on. We're going to go in this house.
We walk in this house and it's a house, right? It's a normal looking house. Living room, kitchen. There's this hallway that goes back to like the bedrooms and the bathrooms, something like that.
Walking around and I sit in a chair, I go, go ahead guys, have a seat on the couch, go Ahead, take a seat on the couch. You sit on the couch. There's a lamp, there's a table, television set, ceiling fan on the ceiling. We're just kind of sitting there.
It goes. Pretty chill place, right? Pretty cool place. But what if I told you that where we are sitting may actually make you reconsider everything you know about not only the physical world around us, but the very thoughts that surround us?
Long pause here. Like, was that supposed to be profound? I'm like, yes, it was. Let's go, guys.
Take another look around before we leave this place. Pretty normal looking place. You like? I guess.
I turn to the camera and I wink. Little do they know this place is far beyond normal. Or is it, Is it internal leprechaun? Apparently I do a little jump, buckle my shoes, click my heels.
We walk out. Now we're going to go to a different house. We're going to meet a guy. We don't have his exact name.
We're going to call him Jerry. But Jerry is sitting in his bedroom and he's holding his bong and it's loaded up with some salvia. Now, if you're not familiar with what salvia is, trust me, you're about to get a crash course on what this drug can do. It's a drug, basically, if you're smoking it in a bong.
I know you can smoke tobacco in a bong, but I guess that's a drink too. You don't know what salvia is. Yeah. You'll learn very quickly and so will Jerry.
Because at this point, Jerry has never smoked salvia. While he's not completely inexperienced with drugs, he doesn't own a bong. His buddy had recently smoked some salvia and been like, jerry, bro, you gotta try this out, dude, this stuff is the best. And Jerry's like, okay, I will try.
I will try this drug. I've never tried it before. My buddy said it's pretty good. Jerry has a little salvia's buddy gave him.
He has it in his bong and he lights it up. Jerry takes a 15 second long rip of this salvia. 15 seconds. Pull out your stopwatch.
He's ripping this thing on his bong. When he exhales out this smoke. Within seconds, Jerry feels himself slide out of his body. Jerry feels everything that's human about him just slip right out of his physical form.
And then flash. The next thing Jerry realizes, and that's in kind of air quotes because he doesn't know. It's a very, very interesting story because he has a limited Base of information at the time, but he's thought about it since then, and he's trying to navigate the two. But the next thing he knows, the next thing he realizes is that Jerry is now a ceiling fan.
But he goes, I don't remember being human. He said, I'm a ceiling fan. I'm a ceiling fan in this house, and I've always been a ceiling fan. I knew something was wrong, and I knew that I had to escape, but I didn't know escape from what or what was wrong or how to escape or why.
Because he was a ceiling fan, and he had always been a ceiling fan. He knew that. He knew I'm a ceiling fan. And he also knew that he was going to watch everything that happened.
That was kind of his reasoning, that the ceiling fan was there to observe. But at the same time, he can't comprehend a lot of what he's going to observe because he's a ceiling fan. He then says, which this quote sets up a lot of stuff, right? He turns into the ceiling fan, and he says, quote, the first year, okay, so he's going to be a ceiling fan for a while.
And this is something that happens with salvia. When you smoke it. You're generally high for a couple minutes, tops. But you can have a trip that lasts far, far longer than that.
So he takes this rip. Now he's a ceiling fan in the first year of his life of a ceiling fan, 365 days includes this. He says, there's a balding man who lives at this house. Hey.
Slightly overweight. He had gray hair, and he was married to a pregnant blonde woman who spent a lot of the time walking around the house naked. Every night, the man and the woman would sit on the couch and watch television. And usually during their favorite show, they have sex on the couch you were sitting on, by the way.
They have sex. They'd have sex on that couch. And Jerry's just a ceiling fan watching all of this. Jerry says, I never learned their names.
And even when they would talk, he goes, have you ever seen those videos? I'll put one of the show notes. They have Those videos on YouTube of what English sounds like to someone who doesn't speak English. He goes, that's really what it felt like.
He's fluent in English. But when he was a ceiling fan, because he's a ceiling fan, the ceiling fan doesn't know English. So he would hear these conversations that just seemed, like, random. Like a random jarboled mess.
He goes, every so often, though, I can pick Out a particular thought, something would make sense. He goes, one thing that he did pick up on was they didn't have a lot of money. This couple didn't have a lot of money. They didn't really spend a lot of time outside of the house.
I mean, other than when one had to go to work or one went shopping or whatever. He said normally there was always at least one of them there. But, yeah, he would hear them kind of complain about not having a lot of money, stressful, paying bills and all that. He goes, that's really one of the key things that he could comprehend.
And as the ceiling fan, well, she's pregnant. And after the new year passes, that first year, after New Year's Day, both him and her, the husband and the wife, are gone for three days. And Jerry's just the ceiling fan in this empty house with salvia. There's no time jumps, by the way.
It's a tick, tick, tick tickets every minute of every day. So for three days, he felt every minute sitting in this empty house as a ceiling fan. But after the three days, they come back and they have a baby boy with them. And Jerry sees them walk into the living room holding this baby boy, this new addition to the family.
Jerry watches this little boy begin to develop. He's a baby. He's a toddler. He's getting ready for his first day of school.
Jerry's observing all of this every minute of every day of every month of every year, watching this family go about their daily lives and watching this little boy grow up. Jerry said the boy seemed to be, you know, he just doesn't know he's a ceiling fan. These are things that he can kind of remember back now that he's human and can type stuff up. But at the time, he's a ceiling fan.
What he's figured out retroactively is that the boy seems to suffer from autism and definitely had a speech impediment. He had a hard time learning how to speak correctly. He goes, I watched the boy kind of mouth silently mouth the words and then say those same words out loud. Watching this little boy, you know, needs a little bit extra help, but sees this little boy doing what he needs to do to get over this speech impediment.
Jerry says the dad got older and fatter and balder. Jerry said, the mom let herself go. That's the terminology he used, let herself go. But Jerry, as he's watching this boy grow up, he said he was handsome.
He was a very, very handsome boy. Curly blonde hair. This family is Just living their life. And the only way that Jerry can keep track of time is by counting the birthdays.
Because other than that, he's just this ceiling fan. And I should also say now, you know, I don't know if you know a lot about ceiling fans. And they're on mobile. He said there was a hallway.
He goes, I don't know what was down the hallway. I assume it was their bedrooms. I was assuming it was their bathroom. He goes, but I could really only see what a ceiling fan could see.
So when the family would get ready for bed and they walked down the hallway, I don't know what that part of the house looked like. I don't know what the outside of the house looked like. I don't know what anything outside the living room and a little bit of the kitchen looked like, because I was a ceiling fan. He's counting the birthdays.
He's watching his boy grow up. Minute by minute, day by day, month by month. The boy has now. The boy has now turned 15 years old.
Jerry has been a ceiling fan for 15 years. You're 15. He sees the boy and his mother talking. And the mother tells the child, I have to tell you something, son.
Grandma. Grandma died. Grandma's dead. Jerry, as the ceiling fan, he's never met Grandma.
Grandma's never come over to the house. In fact, he starts to think no one really ever even talked about Grandma. But the mom is sitting down with the boy and says, grandma's died. And she begins to explain how death works.
There's no coming back from it. We're gonna prepare a ceremony, have her put in a grave. We're gonna go to the graveyard. All of that, the process of life and death.
And she's explaining that to her son, and she's letting him know, you will not see grandma again. We won't be able to see her. We won't be able to see her again, son, because she's passed on. She's dead.
But as Jerry is sitting up there on the ceiling and he's hearing this conversation, all of a sudden, the mother's voice starts to echo and change. She begins repeating certain phrases over and over again, and they're becoming darker and more demonic. She's saying, grandma, you will never see Grandma. Never see Grandma again.
You will never see. She's gone. Then everything snaps back to normal. Her voice returns to normal.
The echo is gone. She simply. The mother simply gets up off the couch and walks down the hallway to rooms unknown. That was really the first time that Jerry, as the ceiling Fan experienced anything paranormal outside of becoming a ceiling fan.
This moment was the first time that something truly unusual has happened in this house. And it would fill Jerry with an intense fear, a panic, because he didn't understand what this was. He doesn't know why this moment, out of all the moments, it became so dark and evil, became twisted and corrupted. It became demonic.
He said that same year, year 15, one day, mom went into the kitchen, and she grabbed three oranges, and then she walked into the living room, put the three oranges on the floor, and then left the room. Now, Jerry is looking down where these oranges are on the floor, and they begin to spin. They begin to turn and twist and spin until all three oranges are spinning around in a circle. And then the mother begins walking down the hallway to re enter the living room.
And the oranges stop. They completely freeze. They're laying motionless on the floor. And the mother walks over, picks up the three oranges, puts them back in the kitchen.
Then one day during year 15, Jerry is a ceiling fan. He's hanging out on the ceiling. And the father walks into the living room and flips a switch, turning the ceiling fan on for the first time in 15 years, for the first time since Jerry has become the ceiling fan. He begins to move.
The blades of the ceiling fan slowly start revolving. And when they reach the fifth rotation, he feels himself float out of the ceiling fan, float out of the house, float into the sky, and then flash. Jerry is laying in bed in his house. Jerry is laying there in bed, and he said it took him five minutes to remember where he was and even who he was.
He said, it's really interesting. He goes, I remember everything, and I could tell you everything. I could write down everything that happened in those 15 years, but it would be longer than the dictionary, because I remember all of it. Every single minute of every single day of every single month of every single year for 15 years.
He said it for about three days afterwards. He was pretty messed up mentally, because again, you know what? He's interested. He has two thought processes here.
He has the ceiling fan where it was like, well, I'm a ceiling fan. But now, back when he's Jerry, he thinks about things that happened. And he goes, the creepiest part was year 15 with the demonic voices and the weird stuff with the oranges. He goes, it was so, so bizarre.
Even outside what he was experiencing before that. He goes, and especially the amount of voices terrified him. Like, once he shifted back to human. Thinking about that still really, really scares him.
Like, what was Going on, why was that moment so dark and evil? He said, moral of the story, don't do salvia. Which is. Which is what you hear from a lot of people who do salvia.
But he did experience 15 years of existence as a ceiling fan because he took a ripping hit of salvia, a direct he never tried before. You know, it's so funny because here's the interesting thing about the story. It was posted online by someone going by the Name Park Psychological 7:38. We've talked about salvia in the past couple of those episodes of the show.
I think we've just kind of really talked about it in one episode. But I've had two close friends of mine do salvia. One of them, she brought it over for me to do. This was a long time ago.
She's like, bro, you gotta hit this. You gotta hit the salvia stuff, dude. Yeah, she came over and she was like, yeah, dude, you gotta hit this. And she took a fat and she listened.
We're good friends. We knew each other in high school. We've known each other for years, a decade to this point. Um, but she came over, she's like, yo, let me hit it first.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. I go, I've never even heard of this before. Before I ingested substance. I've never heard before.
Yeah, sure, you go ahead and do it. She'd gotten it from a friend, and she smoked it. And then she sat on my couch and laughed for, like, 45 seconds straight. And then she looked at me, she goes, do not do Salvio.
Do not do this. I'm not even gonna let you do it. I was like, okay, okay, I'm gonna say your word. You did this trip out.
And I was like, what did you see when you did it? And she was like, having a hard time to explain it, but it was nowhere near the level of these types of trips. Now, I got another buddy of mine talked about a couple times on the show. It's my boy, Billy.
Now, my boy Billy, he smokes Albia. And I was, like, hearing people's drug stories and stuff like that, and he was. You know, he did all sorts of stuff. He did all sorts of drugs I would never even touch, right?
And we're hanging out one day, and I go. He goes, dude, I hit some cellular day. I started laughing. I was like, dude, how was it?
He's like, it was the worst. The worst. And I'll be honest, my body. His drug choice was meth, right?
He did a lot of meth. They smoke weed, you know, stuff like that. But that was his drug choice, was meth. You know, whatever.
We hang out, I don't do it. I hate that drug. I hate it. I hate it.
But, you know, I'm not gonna hang out with my buddy because he does it. We're hanging out. He's like, yo, I have some salvia. And I was like, this again, was probably.
This had been, like, at this point, maybe 15 years ago, 16 years ago. I was like, how was it? He goes, I hate it. I'll never do it again.
I start laughing. I go, what happened? He goes, well, I was outside of my house because I said, there's. You always get it from somebody.
He goes, I loaded up the pipe and I hit it. And the next thing I knew, I was a brick. I was a brick. He said that he was this brick, and then all of a sudden, he realized that he was a brick in an endless wall of bricks.
He said from the left side into the right side was just brick. This huge, massive brick wall as far as the eye could see. And he said, my head was the brick. Like, my.
Had my body, but my head was in the brick, and I didn't want to be a brick anymore. So I took off running. And that's what he did in real life. He's flying down, running as fast as he can down Hazel Avenue, scream, screaming, I'm a brick.
Now, however long the trip lasted in real life, it lasted, you know, 45 seconds, a minute or something like that. He was all out of breath and stuff like that. He stopped being a brick. And he told me that.
I'm laughing. It's not that funny. I ran over by my car. It's like.
Well, it's kind of funny because you didn't. Couple years later, he stabbed a man, killed a man, went to prison. He's still in prison. And you think about that imagery, right?
An endless sea of bricks, a wall as far as the eye can see. And in a way, it's like, was that a prophetic, like, vision? I mean, what is more representational of a prison than the walls that surround it? The bars, sure, but.
And that whole idea of institutionalization, you go in and you're just this one of a million, a number, an endless sea of convicts. I mean, again, he could have just been tripping out. We talked about Salvia before on the show. I probably told that story about Billy before as well.
But we talked about salvia before on the show. There was the guy who took it, and he became paint on the side of a Barn for like 70 years. And even he says, every day, every minutes, every hour, I was paint on the side of a barn. I experienced 70 years worth of memories.
This is the interesting thing about this. There's two ways we can look at this. We'll go wrap this up. The episode's already going long.
One is this gentleman, Jerry and the guy who was the paint on the barn. Again, these stories are not the off ones. A lot of people who do salvia have these huge time lapse moments where they experience an eternity in just a couple of seconds. But they have to kind of reconcile and I guess this kind of details of everything.
I want to say, here's my question, was this a trip? Did he become a ceiling? And when I say, was it a trip? Here's my question.
Did he become a ceiling fan in a house with a family that doesn't exist and has never existed? Or is everything he experienced real? Like one is just a crazy drug trip hallucination thing. But imagine if a couple years from now he is walking down the street and he sees that 15 year old boy as an adult and he knows it's him 100% recognizes him because he watched them grow up for 15 years.
You would never know, you can never say with 100% certainty that this was all a hallucination because you would never know for certain that this family didn't really actually exist. Because he doesn't know their names. He didn't get a ton of information from them. He can barely comprehend what's going on.
The fact that you could say, well, the oranges, there's not a lot of places on earth where the orange is twist. There could be elements in that. Last year for sure we had those two creepy experiences. That was the connection between him and the ceiling fan starting to wear thin.
But maybe, I mean, we cover paranormal stuff on the show. Oranges spinning on the ground would be the least weird thing we've covered in the past six years. Same thing with the guy was the barn. How does he know that's not really a barn that has actually existed?
And there is a layer of paint on it. So he didn't hallucinate. He became something that's actually physical in this world. And then you really open it up to, well, what if it's not a family alive right now?
What if he was a ceiling fan in a home from 2004 or 2032? Unless you had huge changes in technology, like if you were like 1972, you might be able to go that Was kind of weird. Everything, the carpets are different and the television was different. Things like that.
But it takes a long time for people to go, oh, we're gonna get the biggest television set, the thinnest television set. We're gonna get all of these smart. I have nothing smart in my place. If you teleported here, you probably would.
Outside of my laptop, I think you'd have a hard time figuring out what decade you were in. As I look around, there's my sweat. You can go, well, that Maximum Hometown Hotties poster was printed in 2003. So I know wherever I'm at, it's post 2003.
But other than that, there's not. I have Deep Space nine action figures. I feel like this is a trap for time travelers. They're like, what?
But there's nothing in here that gives it away that we're in the year 2024. You probably think you're in the early 2000s, so you don't even know. But I mean, was it. We don't know if it's a family that existed right in that moment that, like, actually we know it wouldn't be.
Because the fact that in that short period of time is actually high 15 years past. So it could be. Yeah. You have no clue of what time period this happened in.
You could maybe narrow it down to a 20 year gap. But is the family real? Because that changes everything. That changes everything.
If this is a drug that you do and you hallucinate everything and it feels real, that's just a bizarre. I mean, that alone already is the connection between man and nature. The fact that a plant could evolve on Earth or be cultivated. I don't know.
Maybe they've taken different species and strains and made. I don't know, I actually should look it up. History tell you. But you have a plant that can cause such chaos in the human brain already.
That's just interesting enough. But imagine if out of all the psychoactive substances and all the deliriums, all of that, this one in particular, and not everybody, but some people, can actually keep you in this physical realm, but make you something else. Some people will take it and just laugh really hard and see people with funny faces. I don't think my friends teleported to funny face dimension.
But is it possible that Jerry actually became a real ceiling fan in a real house that had real people experiencing a real life? Because if that's the case, if that even happened once on this drug, then it changes everything about everything. Like, you would look around and think, what in my House. My house could be a drug user, and not even that could be a drug user 20 years from now.
It changes everything about reincarnation. I don't think of a ceiling fan as having a personality or even having a place for consciousness. Did Jerry's real life consciousness go into a ceiling fan for 15 years? How does a ceiling fan see or sense or hear?
It just breaks all the rules of everything we know about reality and consciousness. Again, if the judges causes a hallucination, which I'm sure most people would say, then it's just a hallucination. But if one of these stories is real, if one of these stories actually became this thing for all of this time, then, I mean, I'm a little speechless, right? I can't even, like, my mind, like, now first you're just walking around your house with clothes.
For the rest of your time, you're like, I'm not walking around naked anymore. My couch cushion might be a person from the future. Don't say that. I'd probably get taken into the Lubin.
But do you treat the items in your house better because they might be somebody? Do you not do things that you would otherwise normally do because you're afraid that your trash can might actually be a guy? Probably not. No, Jason, no one is gonna hear that story.
Be like, oh, no, I better change my light bulbs real quick. There may be a guy trapped in him, but you know what I mean? Like, if he actually went to somebody's house, which he'll never know whether or not that's true. And I think the conventional wisdom and other people who do this, Jerry will be like, no, no, it's just a hallucination.
But he'll never know the truth until, like I said, he runs into this kid or runs into the mom and dad or something concrete like that, without evidence specifically showing it is real, because you can't have evidence proving it's not. You'd have to go, okay, visit every single house in the world to see if you can find this family. You can't do that. So until he has evidence for sure that it is true, you can't prove that it's not.
He will always wonder, and I'll always wonder, is this a drug trip? Or did he actually become a ceiling fan? And this family is a real family because one is a funny drug story about a guy who got too high and didn't research what he was doing, and the other one breaks all the rules we know about human consciousness and reality itself, and we'll never know for sure. Unless we have proof positive that it did happen.
And that's extremely unlikely that he'll ever run into any of these people. But Jerry, like us, I think, will always wonder if somewhere out there in the world there is a ceiling fan. Watching this family continue to grow. An empty ceiling fan.
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