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And he breaks the story that he was accidentally included in a signal chat that basically included everybody who is a top member of Team Trump in the national security sphere, ranging from the Secretary of Defense, Pete Haggseth, to the national security advisor Mike Walts, to the vice president of the United States, Jay D'Vans, to Stephen Miller, a top advisor to, president from all of them on a single chat. And they were talking about the upcoming military strike on the Houthis. And somebody, it appears to have been Mike Walts, accidentally included Jeffrey Goldberg in this signal chat. Now, what exactly happened here?
The answer is almost certainly that he meant to include the US trade representative, Jamie Singreer. If you ever use Signal, Signal is encrypted messaging service that is supposed to be basically uncrackable by outside sources. And one of the things that happens when you use Signal Chat, I don't have a bunch of Signal Chats. When you are on Signal, you can choose how your name appears in its sort of identity line.
You can either pick your phone name or you can pick the initials. So my assumption is that Jamie Singreer had Jay-G as his initials on Signal, and that Walts, or whomever else put together the chat when he was aged, whoever did it, hit instead Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic. This is not mean, as per so many folks who do not like Mike Walts, that he was regularly chatting with Jeffrey Goldberg. It just means that Jeffrey Goldberg was in sort of a list of contacts that included Jamie Singreer, and both of them had the initials Jay-G and he hit the wrong one.
Okay, so in any case, what ends up happening is that there's a very detailed discussion that's quite fascinating about the strike against the Houthis that happened March 15th. Jeffrey Goldberg has a long piece of the Atlantic about this, and here's what he says. This is a world found out shortly before 2PM Eastern time on March 15th, the United States was bombing Houthi targets across Yemen. I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming.
The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegset, the Secretary of Defense, had texted me the war plan at 11 at 44 AM. The plan included precise information about weapons, packages, targets, and timing. This is going to require some explaining. So the story technically begins shortly after the Hamas invasion of Southern Israel in October of 2023.
Who of these in Iran-backed terrorist organizations whose motto is God is great, death to America, death to Israel, curse down the Jews victory to Islam, which as I said before is a very wordy slogan. They were launched attacks on Israel on international shipping critic havoc for global trade. Throughout 2024, the Biden administration was ineffective encountering those who the attacks, the incoming administration, promised a tougher response. This is where Pete Hegset and I come in.
On Tuesday, March 11th, writes Jeffrey Goldberg, get the Atlantic. I received a connection request on signal from user-identified as Michael Walsh. First of all, a connection request means that Walsh was not actively in contact with Goldberg before. Here's for those who are not conversant in how Signal works.
If I want to connect with you on Signal, I have to make a connection request. So the idea that they were regularly using Signal to chat with one another is not true. Signal is an open source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists and others who seek more privacy than other text messaging services are capable of delivering. I assume that Michael Walsh's in question was present down Trump's national security advisor.
I did not assume however the request was from the actual Michael Walsh. I met in the past and though I didn't find it particularly strange that they might be reaching out to me, I did think it somewhat unusual given the Trump administration's contentious relationship with journalists and Trump's periodic fixation on me specifically. It immediately crossed my mind that someone could be masking as Walsh in order to somehow entrap me. It is not at all uncommon these days for nefarious actors to try to induce journalists to share information that could be used against them.
This is Jeffrey Goldberg writing for The Atlantic. I accepted the connection request, helping this with the actual national security advisor, and then he wanted to chat about Ukraine or Iran or some other important matter. Two days later, Thursday, 4.20 a.m. I received a notice.
I was being included in a Signal chat group. It was called the Who The P.C. Small Group. A message through the group from Michael Walsh read his follows quote, team establishing a principles group for coordination on who these particularly for over the next 72 hours.
My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a tiger team at deputy agency chief of staff level following up from the meeting in the sit room at this morning for action items. We'll be sending that out later this evening. The message continued, please provide the best staff POC point of contact from your team for us to coordinate with over the next couple of days and over the weekend. Thanks.
So as Goldberg points out, a principles committee generally refers to a group of senior most national security officials, and that includes secretaries of defense, state, treasury, the director of the CIA. He said he obviously was not meant to be on this group, certainly not on a commercial messaging app. One minute later, a person identified only as M.A.R., which presumably is Marco Rubio, wrote Mike Needham for state, apparently designating the current counselor of the state's department as a representative. At that same moment, a single user identified as JD Vance wrote Andy Baker for VP.
One minute after that, Tulsi Gabbard wrote Joe Kenford DNI, nine minutes later, Scott B, apparently the treasury secretary Scott Pessent or someone spoofing his identity wrote Dan Katz for treasury and at 4.53 pm, a user called Pete Hagg's death wrote Dan Caldwell for DOD, Brian McCormick for NSC and John Radcliffe, included the name of the CIA official and Jeffrey Goldberg as an name that CIA official because that would be classified. The principles had apparently assembled in all 18 individuals were listed as members of the group, including various national security counsel officials, including Steve Whitcough, Susie Wiles, and Stephen Miller, presumably. That was the end of the Thursday Tech chain. After receiving the wall's tech related to the whovPC small group, I consulted a number of colleagues at Goldberg.
We discussed the possibilities, text from part of this information campaign, initiated by either a foreign intelligence service or more likely a media gadfly organization, the sort of group that attempts to place journalists in embarrassing positions and sometimes succeeds. I very strongly doubt that the text group was real because I couldn't believe the national security leadership of the United States would communicate on signal about imminent war plans. I also cannot believe the national security advisor to the president would be so reckless as to include the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic in such discussions with senior US officials up to and including the vice president. The next day, says Jeffrey Goldberg, things got even stranger.
At 8.05 am, Friday, March 14, Wiles texted the group, quote, team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the president's guidance this morning in your high-side inboxes. Now, again, this is important because a high-side inbox, high-side means classified. So what he's saying is the stuff that we're talking about right here is not considered the sort of classified protected material that would be legally actionable if it were to disappear. High-side is typically the sort of inbox that is used for that classified material is important for legal reasons.
State and DOD civil else, we developed suggested notification list for regional allies and partners, joined staff is sending this AMA more specific sequence of events in the coming days. We'll work with DOD to ensure Chief of Staff, Office of VP, and POTUS are briefed. At this point, a fascinating policy discussion at Commence. The account label JD Vance responded at 8.16, team, I'm out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan, but I think we are making a mistake.
Vance was in fact in Michigan that day. The Vance account went on quote, three percent of US trade runs through the Suez, 40 percent of European trade does. There's a real risk the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary. The strongest reason to do this as POTUS said is to send a message.
Then Vance continued quote, I'm not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself, but there's a strong argument for delaying this month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, et cetera. Then Joe Kens, who's Trump's nominee to run the National Council of Terrorism Center, there's nothing time sensitive driving the timeline.
We'll have the exact same options in a month. Then John Radcliffe replied and contained information that might actually be interpreted as related to actual and current intelligence operations. So credit where it's, I think Jeffrey Goldberg is just awful in every possible way, but he did refrain from actually including the classified information or information he thought might be classified. He refrained from putting that in the article itself.
At 827, a message from Pete Haggseth said quote, VP, I understand your concerns and fully support you raising with the president, important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out. Economy, Ukraine, peace, Gaza, I think the messaging is going to be tough no matter what. Nobody knows who these are, which is why we would need to stay focused on one. Biden failed and to Iran funded.
Haggseth then continued quote, waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. Two immediate risks on waiting. One, this leaks and we look into slice of two, Israel takes an action first, or Dossys East Firefalls apart. We don't get to start this on our own terms.
We can manage both. We're prepared to execute. And if I had a final goal or no-go vote, I believe we should. This is not about the hoodies.
I see it as two things. One, restoring freedom of navigation, a core national interest, and two, re-established deterrence which Biden created. But we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% off-sec that's operation security.
I welcome other thoughts. A few minutes later, Michael Wall is posted quote, whether it's now or several weeks from now, it will have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes. Per the president's request, we are working with DOD and state to determine how to compile the costs associated and levy them on the Europeans. JD Vance, then reply quote, if you think we should do it, let's go.
I just hate bailing out Europe again. The user identified as XF responded three minutes later, VP, I fully share your loathing of European freeloading. It's pathetic. But Mike is correct.
We have the only ones on the planet on our side of the ledger who can do this. Nobody else even close. Question is timing. I feel like now is as good a time as any given president is directed to reopen shipping lanes.
I think we should go, oppose, still retain 24 hours of decision space. At this point, Stephen Miller joined the conversation and he said quote, as I heard it, the president was clear. Greenlight, we make soon clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement.
For example, if Europe does not remunerate, then what? If you have successfully restored stream of navigation, great cost, there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return. He had then replied, agree. Hey, so Goldberg, wait, and then at 11.44 AM, on Saturday, March 15th, HEGSath posted a signal a team update which contained apparently information about targets, weapons, the US would be deploying and attack sequencing.
Vance then wrote, I will say a prayer for victory and two other users subsequently added prayer emojis. And Goldberg then waited around to what happened and sure enough, at 1.55 Eastern time, explosions were being heard in Sonata, which is the capital city of Yemen. And Michael Waltz then replied saying amazing job, John Radcliffe wrote a good start. And then Waltz responded with three emojis, a fist in American flag and fire.
And then Secretary of State Ruby, I presume, good job, Pete and your team and Susie Wiles, sexy kudos to all of them, particularly those in theater and CENTCOM, really great. God bless. Well, this is obviously a negative story for the administration, but there's plenty of positive for the administration, including doge continuing to surgically cut the fat from decades of bloated government spending and corruption. Pure talk, the cell phone company I use for business every day is cutting the fat from the wireless industry.
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So there is a bunch of there's a bunch of issues to talk about here. Obviously, the biggest issue is the week itself. How did this happen? And the answer is you have all these officials there using signal.
This is obviously mistake. It's obviously mistake. President Trump was asked about this yesterday. He's not any knowledge what was going on.
He personally didn't have me knowledge what was going on. Very well yesterday. I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic.
To me, it's a magazine that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine, but I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had what they were using signal to coordinate on sets of materials and having to do with what? What would they talk about?
Who do you mean the attack on the hood? Well, it couldn't have been very effective because the attack was very effective. I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it.
You're telling me about it for the first time. So Trump, I was probably hadn't acknowledged with this because it was literally everybody else in the administration who was on this particular chat. The Secretary of Defense, Haggseth, was asked about this and he tore into the Atlantic as well. So you're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again to include the, I don't know, the hoaxes of Russia, Russia, Russia, or the fine people on both sides, hoax or suckers and losers, hoaxes.
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And so that raises a couple of questions. One is illegal. So there are people today who are attempting to claim that this was somehow a violative of criminal law that this is a breach of official records acts because signal chats have an auto delete function that you can activate. As I mentioned, we went through the story, the use of terms, for example, in the piece, such as high side suggests that there was an entire other thread that was going on inside these sort of classified government rooms that was preserved.
So there's that to the president of the United States has the signal ability to simply declassify whatever he wants. So the idea that this is sort of a violation of law, I think, is overstated. Is it a scandal? Sure, it's a scandal when there is a screw up this big.
If you accidentally include a journalist in a high ranking discussion about precisely where you're bombing, that is a major problem. Of course, it is a breach of security. I'm not willing to hear that from people on the Democratic side of the Alcor, perfectly fine with the Hillary Clinton email stuff. I'm not.
And this is one of the lines that the left is taking about all of this today, which is you guys you fussed all about Hillary Clinton and her emails and keeping those on her own private server. So number one, we should recognize that what Hillary Clinton was very bad. And this right here is also quite bad, inviting a journalist into a group chat, obviously, that involves high ranking discussions of national matters that are classified. That is a giant boo boo.
That is a huge boo boo. It is a mistake. And again, as much as Jeffrey Goldberg is a human being, I think that Jeffrey Goldberg actually did the responsible thing in not printing, for example, operational details or blowing the operation beforehand, which you certainly could have done with all of that said, the reason that everyone is so casual about the use of classified material, he says, the reason all this is happening is because of the original sin of James Comey not prosecuting Hillary Clinton over emails. That is the reality that set up an entire permission structure for people to mishandle classified materials unless apparently a Republican that is the way this works.
If Hillary Clinton uses classified materials and she puts them on a private server, which James Comey of the FBI openly acknowledged was likely accessed by foreign sources. And then there's no prosecution that attends. Then how can that rule apply to anybody else? This is why it was so ridiculous when they tried to go after Trump for the classified documents mishandling at Mar-a-Lago at the same exact time that Joe Biden had a bunch of classified documents in his garage.
This issue is largely played out in the sense that while something can be a giant screw up, nobody takes it as a criminal level screw up at this point. That was killed dead by the operations who let Hillary Clinton off the hook back in 2015, 2016 for her emails handle. And so when the left says, we've now heard the end of but her emails, the reality is but her emails was the inciting event for an entire string of mishandling of classified materials on both sides of the aisle. Then there, the Democrats are saying, this could have cost lives.
It really could have cost lives. I mean, if it did not include Jeffrey Goldberg, sure, but that is also a hypothetical that did not happen in reality. A giant screw up is not quite the same thing as an intentional move to endanger human life on the American side of the aisle. Leon Panada, former secretary of defense was on CNN going off about all of this.
And again, this is this exaggeration. To have had somebody from the Atlantic on that chain without question was a serious mistake. And I hope the White House takes this seriously because the last thing you want to do when you're talking about war plans is to have a serious leak like this that could undermine the war plans, but also jeopardize lives. So I hope they take this seriously.
Now, again, I agree that it should be taken seriously. The idea of this was like jeopardizing mass amounts of life because Jeffrey Goldberg was included. That's an exaggeration. It's also worth noting that many of the same people who are very upset with this particular situation, but have been perfectly happy if the war plans had been leaked by an insider at the Trump administration to the front page of the New York Times.
That sort of stuff happened all the time in the first Trump administration. Democrats are going on offense. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Monday, this is one of the most stunning breaches of military intelligence I have read about in a very, very long time. How's Minority Leader King Jeffries in New York called Hagg's F quote, the most unqualified person to ever lead the Pentagon in American history.
Now, do we think that any of this is going to pay off in a major way? One of the things that is fascinating is not the Democratic attacks on Republicans, on walls, on Rubio, on Hagg's F on any of the rest of this. The part that's really fascinating is the mobilization on one side of the Republican aisle against Waltz in particular, because there are really two issues that are of note with regards to this. One is the League itself, which obviously is deeply noteworthy.
And the administration should make sure obviously nothing like this ever happens again. And then there's the second issue, which is what was actually said in the League. And one of the things that I'm noticing is that partisans of J. Vance are coming out saying that the real story here is the League and partisans of my walls are coming out and saying that the real story here is what we said in the chat.
And the answer is both. Both of these things are actual real stories and neither should be obscure. Politico is reporting that Waltz could theoretically be on the chopping block that President Trump is upset because he doesn't like that headlines. That of course makes sense.
The president has a right to be upset. A senior administration official told Politico on Monday afternoon they're involved in multiple texts threads of other administration staffers on what to do with walls following that bombshell report. One official said quote, half of them saying he's never going to survive or he shouldn't survive. It was reckless not to check who's on the thread.
It was reckless to be having that conversation on signal. You can't have recklessness as the national security advisor. Now let's be fair about this. If you're saying that it was reckless to include Jeffrey Goldberg, obviously true.
If the idea is that it was reckless to have the conversation on signal, half of the conversations on planet Earth about national security are being had on signal because it is encrypted. That is specifically the reason why the, that's why I downloaded signal. So I have sensitive conversations on signal. And if you're talking about recklessness to be involved, now you have to fire the entire team because literally everyone on the team was on that signal chat.
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So yeah, the president, he says, listen, we're going to reopen freedom of trade and freedom of the seas. We're going to strike the Houthis. We're not going to be cowards like Biden administration was about the Houthis. And then a consequential discussion ensues, in which part of the administration says, that means we need to punch them in the mouth.
And vice president Vance takes the position we should not punch the Houthis in the mouth and then puts forward what is a pretty milk toast delay tactic. Because what van says in there is an open disagreement with president Trump, an open disagreement with president Trump, right? Quote, I'm not sure the president is aware of how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. And while actually it is striking the Houthis is not inconsistent with messaging on Europe.
By the way, the argument that 3% of US race runs through the US but 40% of European trade does, and thus it doesn't matter for the United States if trade moves through the Swiss canal. That's incredibly silly because trade is intertwined. If you raise the price of goods massively in Europe, that is going to raise the price of goods in the United States because we trade with Europe. That is the thing that we do.
So to me, what that bespeaks is an entirely different geopolitical strategy that vice president Vance is suggesting here than what the Trump administration as a whole has been promoting. When you look past the actual leak issue to the actual content here, Walt, Hagg Seth, Miller are all reflecting the priorities of the president of the United States. And vice president Vance, not so much. When he says, well, this is really about cramming it down on the Europeans.
Why don't the Europeans do it? He knows full well that the Europeans are not capable of taking on the hoodies. He knows that full well. And he also understands how global trade works.
What that really suggests that the vice president has a very different view of foreign policy. A view that he expressed pretty clearly before he was vice president. When he said he didn't care why the Russia took Ukraine, for example, that is certainly a view that is a view that bespeaks a foreign policy of spheres of influence, essentially. The Russia should have its own sphere of influence in Eastern Europe, stretching all the way down into the Middle East that the United States should essentially remove itself from the world, which may or may not mean a broader sphere of influence for the Chinese.
Vice president Vance, again, he has a very different foreign policy than the Trump foreign policy. That's just a reality. And you can see it in these messages. When he says there's a strong argument for delaying this month, doing the messaging work on what it matters, seeing where the economy is, etc.
In the reality is the chance of a serious oil price spike from hitting the hoodies. Actually, it was incredibly low because the Saudis don't like the hoodies either. And what is going to shut down traffic in the red sea? The traffic's already shut down in the red sea.
None of that makes any sense. So I think that the vice president, when he says that this is really just about bailing out Europe, it's bad to bail out Europe, the United States has an interest in freedom of disease. Our shipping does go through the Swiss canal, global shipping goes through the Swiss canal. We trade with all the countries that are shipping going through the Swiss canal beyond which the United States does have an interest in backing our Saudi and Israeli allies and striking the hoodies who have already been responsible by the way for the death of Americans.
So when the vice president says the sort of stuff that openly conflicts with what the president of the United States is saying, that is another story. So they're two sort of dueling narratives, and it'll be interesting to see how it shakes down inside the administration. As the Wall Street Journal points out, National Security Advisor Mike Walts was a voice for US leadership and for carrying out the president's policy. Vice President, he advances with voice for US retreat, even when Mr Trump directed otherwise.
And again, it'll be interesting that there are a lot of competing voices inside the Trump administration. It'll be fascinating to see which voices end up taking the floor and what President Trump actually does. What should be the consequences for this sort of breach of security? I think this all blows over than 48 hours, frankly.
I think that it's a serious mistake. I think it's a problem. I think unfortunately leaks happen all the time. A kind of self goal and own goal like this where you create the leak is obviously a massive problem.
I'm sure Mike Walts will be called on the carpet by the president of the United States as well. Other members of the administration who apparently never checked to see who else was in chat before they started having these high level discussions. To me, the much more consequential matter is not this. The much more consequential matter is what does the foreign policy of the Trump administration look like and who gets to shape it?
Because that is an ongoing battle inside the Trump administration pretty much every day on every issue ranging from what we do in Ukraine to what happens in the Middle East. And that to me is a fascinating discussion that's going to continue on into the future no matter what happens with this particular issue. Alrighty now, as you know, we've been calling for the pardon of Derek Chauvin, an ongoing series here, the case for Derek Chauvin. It is time for part three of that case we're going to examine the autopsy report of George Floyd.
Just last week in an interview with David Weigel of Semaphore, Minnesota Governor Tim Walts, while campaigning across state lines in Wisconsin for a Supreme Court candidate, the sentence called those of us advocating for justice in the Derek Chauvin case racist. Governor Walts's responses exactly what we've come to expect from the left. When confronted with evidence, they simply elurize them and hope nobody notices the complete absence of substantive rebuttal. The facts are clear and well documented.
Let's address Walts's legal confusion. This is the same governor who apparently doesn't realize Minnesota inmates like Chauvin typically served just two thirds of their sentences under his state's own laws. Much like he was caught on where the state pension fund he oversees holds Tesla's stock. Well, he publicly celebrated the company's stock decline.
The irony of Tim Walts claiming that Chauvin's pardon would undermine faith in the system, while simultaneously defending a prosecution marred by coerced medical testimony, politically motivated prosecutorial takeovers his city and the entire country burning during deliberation and careers threatened. For those who dared question the pre-determined narrative is apparently lost on him. If we're serious about justice, we should care more about whether the conviction was based on actual evidence than mob rule. But that would require intellectual honesty rather than just cheap political points scoring a willful ignorance.
Governor Walts should leave the serious discussions about justice to the adults in the room. He should probably return to his true calling as an inflatable waving to ban outside a chevron gas station. If you'd like to discuss this issue further, he's always welcome on the show. Now, on to the evidence.
In the aftermath of George Floyd's death, there were two separate autopsies conducted. The official one performed by Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office conducted by Dr. Andrew Baker, and a second hired autopsy commissioned by the Floyd family performed by Dr. Michael Boden and Dr.
Alicia Wilson. These two autopsies reached notably different conclusions and the distinctions between them are absolutely critical for understanding the miscarriage of justice in Chauvin's case. Let's begin with the official autopsy performed by Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker on May 26th, 2020, the day after Floyd's death.
Baker had been the county's chief medical examiner since 2004. He's a board certified forensic pathologist. His findings were released in a 20 page report on June 1st, 2020. The official autopsy listed the cause of death as cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating law enforcement, so dual restraints and net compression.
The manner of death was classified as homicide. Now, this is really important. In medical examiner terminology, homicide simply means death at the hands of another person. It is not a legal determination of murder, which would include various additional elements depending on the degree.
But here's where things get really interesting. The autopsy report explicitly states this is a direct quote, no life threatening injuries identified. Let me repeat that. No life threatening injuries identified.
The report documented various minor injuries, including continuous injuries to the forehead, face, upper lips, shoulders, hands, elbows, and legs. In noted mucosal injuries to lips and pattern contusions of the risk consists of handcuffs. But the report further clarifies that there were no facial, oral, mucosal, or conjunctival, putchia, which are the small spots bleeding in the eyes that would typically be present in case of disphyxiation. The report also found no injuries of anterior muscles of neck or the rinsial structures, meaning no damage to the throat, hyroid bone, trachea, or voice box.
Notably, the report did not find any damage to Floyd's neck or cervical spine. Dr. Baker wrote that Floyd's neck was palpably stable and free of hemorrhage. There was not even visible bruising on Floyd's neck.
In other words, despite the popular narrative that Chauvin choked Floyd's death, the actual autopsy found zero evidence of damage to Floyd's airway or throat structures. This critical fact has been almost entirely ignored in public discussion of the case. What the autopsy did find, however, was substantial evidence of severe preexisting heart disease. The report describes arterial sclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe, and hypertensive heart disease with cardiomegaly, which means Floyd had a large heart riddled with black and black arteries.
The normal weight of a human heart varies based on factors like age, sex, and body size, but the typical average for men is between 280 and 340 grams. Floyd's heart weighed 540 grams at a significantly above the normal range. His coronary arteries were 90% blocked. Two other arteries were 75% narrowed, an extremely dangerous condition that put him at high risk for sudden cardiac death.
Dr. Baker explained when someone with heart disease is physically restrained, quote, those events are going to cause stress hormones to pour out into your body and ask your heart to be faster, ask your body for more oxygen. Floyd's in large heart needed more oxygen than normal heart and was therefore limited in its ability to provide that oxygen under stress. The most explosive part of the autopsy, and the part that has been most aggressively downplayed by the media, is the toxicology report.
The official autopsy found multiple drugs in Floyd's system at the time of his death, fentanyl at 11 nanograms per milliliter, nor fentanyl at 5.6 nanograms per milliliter, a form of fentanyl that had already been partially metabolized by Floyd's system, 4 AMPP at 0.65 nanograms per milliliter, another fentanyl-related compound, methamphetamine at 19 nanograms per milliliter. There is cannabis compounds like THC. Let's focus on the fentanyl levels for a moment, 11 nanograms per milliliter. Dr.
Baker disclosed on his witness statement for the trial, quote, if Floyd were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD overdose. Baker also noted that deaths have been certified as fentanyl overdoses with levels as low as 3 nanograms per milliliter. Floyd's level was nearly four times that amount. Also central to the report is the shocking condition of George Floyd's swollen lungs, which weighed it two to three times the normal weight due to fluid accumulation caused by the fentanyl toxicity.
According to CDC guidelines, fentanyl routinely triggers pulmonary edema, quote, significantly reducing respiratory function and leading to hypoxia. Baker testified that Floyd's lungs contained serous fluid, which is consistent with drug-induced pulmonary failure, not physical trauma. Floyd's potentially lethal level of fentanyl and his system along with methamphetamine created an extremely dangerous combination that can cause respiratory depression, cardiac arrhythmia, and sudden death. In stark contrast, the official findings, the autopsy commissioned by the Floyd family reached very different conclusions.
This examination was performed by Dr. Michael Boden, a former New York City Chief Medical Examiner, and Dr. Alicia Wilson, a pathologist from the University of Michigan. We should pause here to talk about Dr.
Michael Boden, the so-called celebrity pathologist who performed the independent autopsy for the Floyd family. Boden has made an entire career out of contradicting official autopsy findings and politically charged cases. It's essentially his brand at this point. Let's look at his trap record.
In 1978, he served as chairman of the House Select Committee on Assassination's Forensic Pathology Panel Investigating JFK's assassination, where he contradicted key aspects of the original Warren Commission findings. He was involved in reviewing evidence in the MLK Junior assassination. He testified for the defense in the O.J. Simpson trial, disagreeing with the prosecution's timeline.
In the Michael Brown case, he claimed shots were fired from further away than the official autopsy indicated. In the cherry on top, Dr. Michael Boden was also hired by the Epstein family to conclude that Jeffery Epstein did not die by suicide, but homicidal strangulation. Boden has literally been fired twice from medical examiner positions, one as Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, after complaints about sloppy recordkeeping, poor judgment, and lack of cooperation.
And then again, from running several counties, medical examiner's office, New York magazine skewered Boden for his disconnect between his fame, which he loved to discuss, and his accomplishments, which paled in comparison to his fame chasing. Dr. Boden and Dr. Wilson determined that Floyd died from his phyxia due to neck and back compression.
They claimed that the pressure on Floyd's neck and impaired blood flowed to the brain while weighed on his back and peded his ability to breathe. Most controversially, they stated that Floyd had no underlying medical problems that caused or contributed to his death. They came to that conclusion without access to toxicology reports, tissue samples, fluids, medical records, or the body cam footage. So when their findings completely contradicted the official autopsy, should we really be surprised?
Moreover, Dr. Boden's reporting no worries the heart disease documented in the official head of NC autopsy. Dr. Boden went so far as to say, quote, I wish I had the same coronary arteries that Mr.
Floyd had that we saw at the autopsy. That is an astonishing claim given that the official autopsy found Floyd's coronary arteries 90% blocked and two others 75% narrowed. Excited to Lirium syndrome recognized by the American College of Emergency Physicians in his 2009 report is characterized by combination of Lirium, agitation, and hyper-adrenergic autonomic dysfunction, also known as the flight or fight response, which typically occurs in the context of drug use or serious mental illness. During Chauvin's trial, Professor Tony Robert Paul questioned Dr.
Baker extensively about his experience with excited Lirium. Baker acknowledged he had listed this condition as a cause of death on some death certificates during his career, but he didn't include it in his report on Floyd. Floyd exhibited several signs consistent with excited Lirium during his encounter with police, agitation, paranoia, strength that required multiple officers to restrain him, sweating, and statements indicating perceptual disturbances. Combined with the known presence of methamphetamine and fentanyl in his system, these behaviors raised serious questions about whether excited Lirium played a role in his death.
In the months following Floyd's death, one of the Minneapolis Police Department's grand gestures indicating their commitment to police reform included the removal of excited Lirium from his training documents altogether. The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that the term excited Lirium was crossed out in Minneapolis Police Department training PowerPoint slides replaced with severe agitation with confusion and in parentheses, Lirium, a clear political revision of a medical condition that had been recognized for decades. Another finding from the autopsy that has received almost no attention is that Floyd tested positive for COVID-19. A postmortem nasal swap confirmed Floyd had COVID-19 at the time of his death.
Fluid had previously tested positive on April 3rd at approximately seven weeks before his death. While the autopsy notes that this most likely reflects asymptomatic about persistent positivity from previous infection, the potential impact of COVID-19 on Floyd's cardiac and respiratory function, especially given severe underlying heart disease, can't be dismissed. It's also important to note that Department of Justice had the head of the head of the county medical examiner's official autopsy results reviewed by the Office of the Armed Forces medical examiner who agreed with Dr. Baker's official findings.
However, they added that the police's quote, subdwell and restraint had elements of positional and mechanical asphyxiation. This additional comment introduces yet another potential mechanism of death, positional asphyxia. In other words, the position of the body preventative breathing. The concept of positional asphyxia is complex and controversial and forensic medicine.
It's typically diagnosed by excluding other causes of death rather than by identifying specific physical findings. In Floyd's case, given his severe heart disease, drug intoxication, and the stress of the encounter, attributing his death primarily to the physician was fixed up, requires making assumptions that are not supported by the physical evidence. Let's go back to those fentanyl findings, which deserve more detailed examination. Fentanyl is an extremely potent synthetic opioid estimated to be 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.
It is essential nervous system to present. They can cause respiratory depression, hypoxia, and death. The concentration of fentanyl in Floyd's blood was 11 nanograms per milliliter. Studies and fentanyl related deaths have found that post-mortem blood concentrations can range widely, levels above three nanograms per milliliter are potentially lethal.
Dr. Baker's comment to federal investigators that Floyd's fentanyl level could constitute no-very-dose quote, if you are found dead at home alone and no other parent causes is extremely significant. While Baker qualified this by saying quote, I'm not saying this, killed him. The statement acknowledges that the fentanyl concentration in Floyd's blood was in isolation, potentially lethal.
The combination of fentanyl with methamphetamine creates what's known as a speedball effect. The stimulant, methamphetamine, masking some of the present effects of the opioid, fentanyl, until the stimulant begins to wear off. At that point, the respiratory depression from the opioid can suddenly become overwhelming. This dangerous combination increases the risk of cardiac arrhythmia and sudden death.
Even all these medical factors, let's consider the legal standard that should have been applied in children's trial, prove beyond a reasonable doubt. For a conviction on second remover, the prosecution needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that children's actions were a malicious causal factor in Floyd's death. As Coleman uses pointed out in his analysis of this case, there were two different theories of what caused Floyd's death, the positional phyxia theory, and the adrenaline search theory. As a juror, if you have two reasonable explanations for cause or death, one of which implicates the defendant and one of which is not, you are supposed to acquit.
It is impossible to discuss this case without acknowledging the enormous political pressure surrounding it. The death of George Floyd's farcation-wide protests and riots, politicians, including President Biden and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye made public statements suggesting shove and skill before the trial even began. Dr. Baker testified that he and his staff received hundreds of harassing and threatening phone calls after Floyd's death.
This intense pressure creates a context in which maintaining scientific objectivity can certainly become challenging. I was recently sent an American spectator article by Jack Cashill that reveals how former DC chief medical examiner Roger Mitchell, a politically connected activist and former DC deputy mayor, influenced the medical findings in the Floyd case. According to a memorandum of the Minnesota Attorney General's office in November 2020, Mitchell appears to have pressured Dr. Andrew Baker to alter his initial diagnosis.
A document so significant, it should have immediately resulted in a new trial for show of an end release of the other officers. The facts are straightforward. Baker's initial autopsy was conducted May 26, 2020. His subsequent draft autopsy report found, quote, no physical evidence suggesting that Mr.
Floyd died of aphyxiation and no medical indications of his fixia or strangulation. In an unrelated head-of-pin county deposition, Dr. Baker confided to head up in prosecutor Amy Sweezy, quote, what happens when the actual evidence doesn't match up with the public narrative that everyone's already decided on. This is the kind of case that ends careers.
Then Roger Mitchell enters the picture. According to the memorandum, Mitchell called Baker twice, ultimately threatening a published Washington Post op-ed, critical of Baker's findings telling him, quote, you don't want to be a medical examiner who tells everyone that they didn't see what they saw. Mitchell concluded with a chilling ultimatum, quote, you don't want to be the smartest person in the room and be wrong. By the time Floyd's official autopsy report was released less than a week later on June 1, 2020, Dr.
Baker had now added neck compression to his diagnosis, effectively transforming four police officers into murderers with a stroke of a pen. Worse yet, the head-of-pin county prosecutors met with Dr. Baker to review his draft autopsy report without detectives or special agents present, violating protocol, and after being assigned to show in case by Governor Tim Walz one day prior, Minnesota AG Keith Ellison utilized the revised autopsy report to bring an additional second-degree murder charge against Chauvin. All of these revelations despite qualifying is breaking material, where buried trial were never properly disclosed to Chauvin's defense.
This is yet another reason why a presidential pardon and a new trial for Derek Chauvin is warranted on the state level. Chauvin was convicted in an atmosphere of intense political pressure with limited ability to present a full medical context of Floyd's death. The complex medical reality documented in the autopsy report was simplified and distorted to fit a predetermined narrative. Justice requires we consider all the evidence, not just the parts that support a particular political agenda.
The detailed autopsy findings provides significant reasons to determine that Derek Chauvin did not receive a fair trial and his conviction for murder was not supported by the medical evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. In our next episode, we'll examine the political and social context surrounding Chauvin's trial, including the $27 million settlement with Floyd's family announced during jury selection, the statements by public officials re-judging the case and the threats of further unrest that created an atmosphere in which a fair trial was impossible. Before we wrap up today's episode, let me remind you to visit PardonDerek.com and sign our petition asking President Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin for his federal convictions, while also put up a website to donate to Derek Chauvin's legal defense fund in the description. This is about ensuring that justice is applied fairly and consistently without being swayed by political pressure or mob mentality.
Okay, meanwhile, the economic news continues to be sort of mixed, apparently an elevated chance of a recession, some of that is being driven by tariff, fears. President Trump continues to push forward with his tariff agenda, but there are some signs that maybe he's going to walk some of that back. According to the Wall Street Journal, President Trump said he might soften reciprocal tariffs. He plans to impose on your trading partners next month, and that some nations might be completely exempt.
He said, when I may give a lot of countries breaks, he said reciprocal tariffs could stop short of his pledge to equalize you as duties with the rates other nations charged. I'm embarrassed to charge them what they have charged us. Markets then rallied on expectations that Trump is going to dial all of this back. That came hours after President Trump said the United States would impose a 25% tariff on any country that buys oil or gas from Venezuela.
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Many of them have announced it's going to be tremendous jobs, high paying jobs too. And so again, if the basic idea here is that high paying jobs will come back thanks to the tariffs. The reason high paying jobs are coming back to the United States is actually because of the deregulatory environment that is being pushed by the Trump administration far bigger than the tariffs is the stuff that's happening under the hood. He serves deregulation that's happening at for example, the environmental protection agency, he's held in had the EPA, he says the EPA's already canceled over $22 billion worth of contracts and that's great cutting the waste for under use is huge, cutting the regulatory infrastructure that prevents people from building and innovating is the biggest thing that the Trump administration is doing here with Secretary Zaldin.
EPA has now canceled over $22 billion worth of contracts, $2 billion going to this NGO that's DC Abrams was tied to, they received only $100 in 2023 and then the Biden administration gave them $2 billion. Did that rector of the greenhouse gas reduction fund? Saw his former employer get $5 billion. So $20 billion went to just eight NGOs and their all pastors.
Okay, so again, the cuts are great. It's the regulatory cuts that are going to make a really, really big difference here. And you can see the beast is crying, right? It's scary.
It's the fear in its eyes, the sort of governmental over weaning relationship with various public sector unions for example, yesterday, the head of the National Education Association, President Becky Pringle, she was complaining that the Department of Education is going to be widely downgraded, possibly dismantled by Congress. Again, the bureaucracy, the bureaucratic state, the administrative state, has a corrupt relationship with all of these public sector unions and public sector employees. That is the great beast that does need to be brought down to size. Here's the NEA president lamenting all of this.
And then of course, we have seen them saying that they're going to actually dismantle it. Now, we know that that is something that only Congress can do. So we know that this administration is overstepping its authority. And that is what our suit is about, that that authority rests in Congress.
So again, this sort of last gasp attempt to say themselves, I do not think that it is going to work. And because of that regulatory infrastructure that is being undercut, because of the subsidization schemes, the Biden administration signed into law, they're now going to be undercut, all that makes for a much more sanguine business environment. If you're wondering why the stock market continues to sort of hang around despite the tariffs, the answer is most business people have more faith that Trump is not going to do the dumb thing than they did under Joe Biden. Certainly they would have under Kamala Harris yesterday, President Trump got to tell investment by Hyundai, which is reassuring a factory in the United States.
Today, we're delighted to report that Hyundai is announcing a major $5.8 billion investment in American manufacturing. In particular, Hyundai will be building a brand new steel plant in Louisiana, which will produce more than 2.7 million metric tons of steel a year, creating more than 1,400 jobs for American steel workers. And then there'll be major expansion after that. This will be Hyundai's first ever steel mill in the United States, one of the largest companies in the world, by the way, supplying steel for soda parts and auto plants in Alabama and Georgia, which will soon produce more than one million American made cars every single year.
Meanwhile, the president of the United States continues to charge for an illegal immigration as well. The unified message from the administration is having an effect because we have the lowest levels of illegal immigration that we've had in recorded American history. Tom Holman, who again, straight from central casting quarters are, he says, we're just going to keep doing these deportations. We're going to keep wrestling TD members, we're going to keep wrestling team members, we're going to keep wrestling public safety threats to all this nation.
Now, it comes to the Alien Emmys Act. If we're going to be moving through that act, we want to wait for litigation, we'll simply detain them. We're going to take them off the streets and anybody who removes the title late, we're going to move through the title late, which is an order of an immigration judge. But we'll be the court's order, but I think DOJ, I think prevention will win that order, then is game mind.
But until then, we're going to keep doing what we're doing to take these public safety threats, especially TDA and MS-13 members off the street. So again, they're going to continue charging for it on all this, because you know, in the head of the Department of Homeland Security, she is openly saying, do not come here legally. If you're trying to get in, do not do it. So we are in several other countries around the world with a message right now that saying, if you are thinking about coming to America illegally and coming here, don't do it.
You are not welcome. We have a legal process becoming a United States citizen, and there are consequences if you come here illegally and America has changed because we're putting Americans first. All this is in fact having a massive impact, the successes of the Trump administration continue to stack up. All right, guys, coming up, Democrats continue to root for the failure of Tesla.
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