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He has presided over a great fleeing from his state. Obviously, I'm one of the people who left his state. I'm at lifelong Angelino. I lived in LA for literally my entire life.
And then I took myself, my family, my parents, my company. We all moved out of LA thanks to the governance of people like Gavin Newsom. But now Gavin Newsom believes that he has his road to 2028 paved for him. He believes that because obviously we've watched a spate of riots in Los Angeles.
First, we were told by media that riots didn't exist. As it turns out, the riots very much do exist, which we'll get to in a moment. But Gavin Newsom is using President Trump's unleashing of federal forces to essentially help protect ICE agents in doing their job as an excuse to claim that he is now standing up to authoritarianism in the United States of America. And so he delivered another one of his very over dramatic, ridiculous speeches last night.
This was supposed to be the end of Independence Day. And he's Bill Pullman. Well, it didn't go great. He started off by having massive audio issues right at the top.
Here's what that looked like. Well, you can see that he's talking and nothing is coming out. Which actually is an improvement because when he talks and sounds does come out, the sound is usually stupid. But here he was attempting to talk.
It didn't work particularly well. But then finally, he got to his point. And his point is that we must resist. We must resist the federal encroachment.
Now, remember, what are the federal encroachment? ICE agents were sent to Los Angeles to do federal immigration raids to pick up illegal immigrants and to deport them. That is what federal laws says you are supposed to do. And we get into the politics of who should be deported and why and how and where in a moment.
But it is certainly within the purview of ICE to actually pick up illegal immigrants and then to process them for deportation. That is all well within the remit of the federal government. And then riots began. And the president was not willing to wait for Gavin Newsom to allow that to continue to fester.
So instead, he activated the National Guard and sent them there in a support role for ICE. And he also activated some Marines in a support role for the National Guard. According to Gavin Newsom, all of this amounts to an extra constitutional coup, the beginning of a monarchic America in which humanitarian Donald Trump is unleashing federal forces in order to take full control of the American body politic. There was Gavin Newsom almost cheering up.
And again, this guy is not Olivier. Like he is not a good actor. And so all of this comes off incredibly fake. This moment we all need to stand up and be held to account a higher level of accountability.
If you exercise your First Amendment rights, please, please do it peacefully. I know many of you are feeling deep anxiety, stress and fear. But I want you to know that you are the antidote to that fear and that anxiety. What Donald Trump wants most is your fealty, your silence to be complicit in this moment.
Do not give in to him. What he wants most is your fealty and your silence. I think what President Trump would like is for you to stop burning way most. And that's the thing the president Trump would like the most actually.
Now, a judge did rule yesterday that Gavin Newsom attempted to stop via an injunctive relief lawsuit. What President Trump is trying to do in Los Angeles and the judge like not. He has the legal ability to do this. You can't get in the way of that.
But listen, what Gavin Newsom wants most of all is to run for president in 2028. And the media are helping him out. The Washington Post has an entire piece titled Trump's Actions Echo Authoritarian Regimes Newsom in Interview. Wow.
Wow. Well, according to the Washington Post, that's an American president in 2025 threatening a political opponent who happens to be a sitting governor. That's not what president in modern times. That's what we see around the globe in authoritarian regimes.
That's because president Trump effectively jokes about arresting Gavin Newsom because Tom Hallman, his borders are, had said that if Gavin Newsom violates federal law, then you'll be subject to federal law just like every other citizen. And this does not ring true given the fact that Democrats tried to imprison president Trump multiple times over the course of the last two years. So what's good for the goose is good for the end. If you're violating the law, then the law should apply to you.
And again, there is no ongoing effort to jail Gavin Newsom despite the fact that he is in fact a horrible governor. He has ever read to me a horrible government. He just can't violate federal law. According to the Washington Post, Newsom's comments reflected a broader frustration for Democratic leaders who have been unable to counter what they see as an escalation of Trump's anti-democratic actions in his emboldened second term.
Newsom has tried all methods. He was the face of the resistance in the first term and welcoming leaders during Trump's initial visit to California in his second term. All the while, he continued suing Trump while keeping up a cordial back channel relationship on Monday. He sounded like he was the end with Trump calling him unrestrained and unhinged.
He said on Monday Trump is a very different president than his first foreign office. He's not from Congress. How he seeks to obliterate oversight from the judicial branch by threatening impeachment of judges and running up to the edges that relates to court orders. So again, this is all about Gavin Newsom running for president in 2028.
And what he is hoping is that becoming the face of a resistance to Trump is going to jog him to victory in Democratic primaries. Now, meanwhile, it is hilarious because the Democrats keep claiming several things at once. One, there are no riots. Two, there are riots and they're good.
Three, there are riots and they're bad, but President Trump should ignore them. All three of those things are being claimed at once. First, you heard members of the media suggesting the words any riots. It's just a little peaceful car burning.
And so a few cars got burned. So the way most had to flee the elves had to leave middle earth. So really, like, is that such a big deal? Then you got to.
Well, there are riots, but they're good. It's part of the resistance you see. You need the resistance. The resistance is positive.
And then you got to, well, the riots are there and they're kind of bad, but they're really because of Trump anyway. That is the position that has now been taken by the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass. So hilariously, last night she had to announce a curfew in downtown LA. So I have a question.
If there was no unrest, why do you need a curfew? I kept saying there was no big deal in LA. So why are you declaring a curfew in downtown LA? I wanted to let the city know that I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew for downtown Los Angeles to stop the vandalism, to stop the looting.
Many businesses have now been affected by our vandalized. Last night, there were 23 businesses that were looted. And I think that if you drive through downtown LA, the graffiti is everywhere and has caused significant damages to businesses and a number of properties. So my message to you is if you do not live or work in downtown LA, avoid the area.
Law enforcement will arrest individuals who break the curfew and you will be prosecuted. I will consult with elected leaders and law enforcement officials tomorrow on the continuation of the curfew, but we certainly expect for it to last for several days. You look and look at the map and you can see that the city of Los Angeles is a massive area, 502 square miles. The area of downtown where the curfew will take place is one square mile.
I think it is important to point this out, not to minimize the vandalism and violence that has taken place there. It has been significant, but it is extremely important to know that what is happening in this one square mile is not affecting the seas. Okay, so again, she's making several of these arguments at once one. The rise are happening and they're bad to don't worry.
The LAPD is taking care of it by the way. The LAPD has been told to stand down basically. I know this from people in the LAPD. The LAPD for years has been told to allow this sort of stuff to happen.
LAPD officers when they join up, they want to stop crime and they've been told actively by the politicians in the city not to stop crime, not to get in the way of the crime and then when things go wrong, then all of a sudden it's about the causal handling. It's one of the major problems with the city of Los Angeles, which is by the statistics, one of the least staffed police forces in America, just on a population to police force level incredibly understaffed police force and they are told not to do the job they originally hired to do. Turned by to admit it that the entire city is covering graffiti so much so that she's concerned that they may not be able to actually have the world cup in LA because of the levels of damage that occurred. Especially of the graffiti that is just blanketing a number of blocks has been extensive.
We are one year away from the world cup. This is about beautifying our city and bringing our city together. And so I am calling on business leaders, community leaders, faith leaders to come together downtown in the next few days to talk about how we are going to clean up the city. Obviously city workers are already out there removing the graffiti, but this is so extensive it's going to take community wide involvement.
We had launched a program called Shine LA a couple of months ago in preparation for the world cup and now we are called on to direct that city wide. We need people from all over the city to come to downtown and to help with this effort. So things are going amazingly well and like hilariously I have to say it's actually kind of funny like a dark way. It is very, very funny that the worst Democrats run a place and then the more it requires federal intervention, the more the person who ran the place is deemed a hero by the media.
So if you're a horrible mayor of LA and you help run the place into the ground so much so that federal troops have to be called in to help stop rioting and then you yell at the president. This makes you a hero that headline from the New York Times quote Karen Bass is getting a second chance to lead her city through a crisis. Miss Bass struggle. I mean criticism of her initial response to the LA fires in January.
The opposition of a president Trump's immigration rates have offered her an opportunity to see she's run the city like complete crap, but she now has an opportunity to be a resistance hero because she gets to yell at president Trump and as we all know that is the most important thing is yelling at president Trump and every Democrat knows this, which is why they have universally decided that the problem in California is not extraordinarily high rates of illegal immigration. It is not the mass of drawn public services represented by illegal immigrants. It is not lack of law and order. It is not under staffing of the police department.
It is not riots in downtown or blanketing of the entire county in graffiti. It is none of those things. The problem, of course, is president Trump. Why?
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Well now he's in the Senate because he only fail upwards in the state of California, which is why Kamala Harris might be the new governor for fairly soon. And here he was suggesting that all of this is the fault of wait for President Trump. And it's this deliberate kind of provocation that is only escalating the situation, but the president doesn't care about making it worse. He's more than happy to see violent protest.
It gives him something to talk about something other than his big ugly bill that's going to blow a hole in the deficit, take away people's health care. So for him, this is a wonderful distraction. It's a wonderful distraction for him. So again, the problem isn't with governance in California, which has created this morass.
The problem is President Trump reacting to the morass a California attorney general Rob Bonta who presides over a state that actively attempts to impede federal law enforcement in doing its job against that in a moment. He says this is all manufactured controversy. Why does anyone even work? What's the big deal?
Yeah, you know, this is a manufactured crisis and artificial controversy. And that's what the president wants. Unfortunately, he wants the confusion. He wants the chaos.
It seems that he wants things to explode that because that will give him the excuse that he wants to try to seize more power, which is his MO besides having a very complicated relationship with the truth. And being a hypocrite, he is an on an ongoing mission to seize more power that is not his. Yes, it is definitely seizing more power to defend ice installations in Los Angeles. You can sense it.
You go to LA right now. I'm sure that it absolutely feels like red dawn is the invading forces of the federal government. Can I just point out that the population of Los Angeles is 3.8 million people. That is that is just the city is 3.8 million people.
The president has deployed 2000 national guard members to LA. It's going to point out 2000 national guard numbers, 4 million people living in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's not I'm sorry. It doesn't sound like a full-scale invasion of me.
Weird. So how prevalent is illegal immigration in California? I asked our sponsors over at perplexity. How many of you live in LA?
You know, like county in California and what percentage of the total Hispanic population of California is illegal immigrants, population. And here's what perplexity says. LA city is home to nearly 900,000 undocumented immigrants based on a 2020 study by USC. LA County, which encompasses the city and the surrounding areas has between 810 and 830,000 undocumented immigrants.
California statewide has somewhere between 1.8 million and 2.6 million illegal immigrants. And apparently, according to perplexity, nearly 30% of all Latinos in California are either undocumented themselves or live with somebody who is undocumented. The way that USC actually determined that I asked again, perplexity for the answer is what they call the residual method. Apparently that involves calculating the total foreign born population in the area, subtracting the number of foreign born individuals who are legal permanent residents, refugees, or have other legal authorizations to live or work in the United States.
And the difference residual is an estimate of the illegal immigrant population. Anyway, the LA County Board of Supervisors member Lindsey Horvath also says that the real problem here is again, not failure to enforce the law. The real problem is the enforcement of the law. If you enforce the law, clearly that's provocative.
The best way to avoid provoking people is to let them run wild in the city of Los Angeles and to allow illegal immigration to just be a thing. We saw that protest happen peacefully and people moved on. That is what is happening. What is escalating the situation is the increased presence and it's happening around the federal building and it's intended to escalate instead of calm down what's happening on our streets.
Right. Again, the problem is drop representative Nancy Pelosi former Speaker of the House. She says the same thing. She actually downplayed much what was going on in the street.
She said, you know what, it could be anarchism or it could just be you full exuberance. It could just be the exuberance here she was. When there is a gathering, a large gathering of people, the anarchist see it as an opportunity and they move in. So always have to be careful whether you see a burned car or broken window or whatever it is.
It may be the exuberance of the moment, but it may be the anarchist setting in. So could be a few things, just exuberance. You know, just exuberance. You know, something good happens.
Somebody, somebody graduates from college and you know, you just got to do a burn and say you set some way modes on fire. You call the way. Mo you grab my little cocktail and you sit on fire because why the hell not? That's what exuberance is all about or it could be anarchism, but maybe it's exuberance says Nancy Pelosi representative Massy Waters again, he said very little problem with violence in the city of Los Angeles.
Listen, there's no problem here. Nobody got shot. Nobody got killed. So what's the big deal of a bunch of businesses get sent on fire or looted or whatever who cares, whatever.
And even those who were out of step with what we are advocating, peaceful protest did not create any violence. Nobody was shot. Nobody was killed. Get it in your head.
And say, I missed the point. Don't miss the point you all don't think that somehow because they called out the National thought there was violence. There was no violence. No violence.
All of it you've been seeing of cars burning and people driving around the wreckage with that's going to fly all of that is no violence. Obviously clearly. Meanwhile, represent Normatoras in California, she says the big thing here is that ice has to be thrown out of the city. They have not had a warrant.
They do not have are not asking for specific names. They are simply going after people because of the way they look and this must stop. The president must call back these ice agents. They must retreat in order for the locals to be given the opportunity to restore order because that is what we are demanding right now.
Representative Judy Chu of California. The constant democratic from be here is the problem is not violation of law. The problem is enforceable law. More enforcement is the problem violation of law is the norm.
His representative Judy Chu saying that President Trump is doing something unprecedented and dangerous and authoritarian. He is the one that conducted these massive raids without warrants without names on these warrants. The protests were inevitable. And now because the protests are happening, Trump sent in the National Guard without the governor's approval on top of the back he's sending in the Marines and threatening to arrest a sitting governor.
This is unprecedented, dangerous and authoritarian. And then finally reach the culmination of this particular line of argument. You have the congressional black caucus chair you got Clark representative from New York saying what you know, Democrats have wanted all along all along since 2016. They want to impeach him.
These things rise to the level of impeachment. Are these people a little bit? Well, you know, I do. I believe it is.
I definitely believe it is. But we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. And so again impeachment is where they are going. And now you can expect that over the course of the next few days there will be protests spreading nationwide.
According to NBC News, activists gathered in New York, Boston, Chicago, Dallas Atlanta and elsewhere, reputing the Trump administration's tough stance against migrants and its aggressive roundup efforts. And it's the same group of people is people waving Mexican flags and also wearing caffillas and Palestinian flags and all the rest of it. It is all the scavengers getting together together to yell at the system. Obviously speaking of scavengers, my brand new booklines and scavengers is available right now for pre-sale and yes, you can get a signed copy only at dailywire.com slash shop is rallying cry against the gigantic movement of scavengers currently poisoning our culture, tearing apart our civilization.
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He'd have sat the secretary of defense was testifying before Congress yesterday. So listen, ICE has the right to perform an operation in California. It is a federal body. It has the ability to enforce federal law.
So in Los Angeles, we believe that ICE, which is a federal law enforcement agency, has the right to safely conduct operations in any state and any jurisdiction in the country, especially after 21 million illegals have crossed our border under the previous administration. So again, I think that is a fairly common sense of ideas that ICE has the capacity to do right now. The question is, who's grabbing that middle of the American popular imagination? Is it the Republicans who say, listen, ICE gets to support illegal immigrants?
And if you start burning cars, then we're going to send the National Guard or is it the Democratic? Like, ah, if you're burning cars here and there, what's the big deal? ICE needs to be forcibly removed from the body politic. Who do you think wins that debate?
President Trump, of course, is going hard on this. He is suggesting that the people who are writing are paid insurrectionists. Some of them certainly are. And he said, listen, if I have to invoke the insurrection after which is not done as of yet, the insurrection act would essentially allow federal troops to engage in civilian law efforts as opposed to support roles.
He says, if I have to do it, I will. It's a bad people. We have people they look in your face and they spit right in your face or animals. And these are paid insurrectionists.
These are paid troublemakers. They're agitators. They're paid. Do you think somebody walks up to a curb and starts hammering pieces out as all the equipment necessary and starts handing it out to people to use as a weapon?
These are paid insurrectionists or agitators or troublemakers. You can call it whatever you want. We're going to take over the insurrection act to deal with the situation in California. If there's an insurrection, I would certainly invoke it.
We'll see. But I can tell you less. Less than that was terrible. Is something Senator Tom Cotton has been calling for a while.
We had him on his guest just a couple of days ago about all of this. He has a piece in the Wall Street Journal reiterating the point he came back in 2020 during the BLM riots. He says, as always, local police are the first line of defense. But when the police can't restore order or aren't allowed to by Democratic mayors, the National Guard must be called out.
We reached this point in Los Angeles where the police chief has said that the disgusting violence has overwhelmed his forces and what there's no limits, what they're doing to our officers and we've seen violence at a level that discussed every good person. Mr. Newsom says, Senator Cotton and ideological all at once refused to mobilize the National Guard, leaving Mr. Trump a little choice but to federalize the California guards, protect federal law enforcement agents and restore order.
His unquestionable authority to do so plus many presidents in my own state, a Democratic governor mobilized the Arkansas guards to obstruct the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School in 1957. Finally, if the guard alone can restore order and protect federal officers and property, the president can use active duty troops under the insurrection act of 1807, a law almost as old as the republic and there is a legal basis to do all of this. President Trump makes the point that if the federal government did not get involved, LA would continue to burn. Here he was yesterday, the president.
If we didn't get involved right now, Los Angeles would be burning just like was burning a number of months ago with all the houses of Los Angeles right now would be on fire and we have it in great shape. How about playing around? Now, we should take a look at what the polling says about this. Democrats seem to believe that this is a winning issue for them.
That is why Gavin Newsom is attempting to turn himself into a resistant hero over all of this was a brand new insider advantage poll from yesterday. Do you approve President Trump's national guard deployment? Yes, 59%. No, 39%.
That is a plus 20. You very rarely get a plus 20 on a controversial issue in the United States. But what that suggests is this is not particularly controversial issue that actually the American people are very much fine with sending in the national guard to restore order. We are done with riots in this country.
We do not like them. We do not want them and we are not going to stand by and watch while they are performed. Now, what's amazing about all this truly, what's amazing about all this is that the Democratic Party, they theoretically don't have to play it this way. Let's assume for a second that you are a strategist for the Democrats.
I know I know. Let's assume you're a strategist for the failing and flailing Democratic Party and you had the information that Stephen Miller and the Trump administration were sending ICE agents out to simply raid local parking lots of the Home Depot. So you have a few choices what to do. One is you can wink and nod at rioters, which is what Democrats are doing right now while blaming President Trump.
Number two is you could compile lists of the people who are being arraigned or being brought up for deportation and you could find the most sympathetic cases and then you could say that the Trump administration is exceeding its mandate that when it comes to immigration, there are more popular aspects of immigration enforcement and less popular aspects of immigration enforcement, very popular, shut the Southern border, right? The Democrats can't even say that. Trump has done that successfully. They should just say that if you're strategizing for the Democrats what you would say is good for president Trump for shutting the Southern border, you cannot allow free flow of migration across America's Southern border, unvetted, unhindered, you can't do that.
It's wrong and President Trump is right to stop that. When it comes to deportation of people in the United States, we have to first target criminal illegal immigrants, not just random grandma at the flea market. Like that's the case that Democrats should be making and they would have some pulling data to at least support that, right? They could try out some sympathetic stories about innocent people who are illegal immigrants and sure they technically can be deported.
But at the same time, do you really want ICE agents all over the United States to pour in 20 million people? What the polling suggests on this is that the American people are a little more divided on this still to come on the show why I think that perhaps President Trump should just let LA burn. If that's what they're asking for first, I always assume restless sleep was inevitable night after night tossing, turning waking up with an aching back. I convinced myself that's how sleep was supposed to be.
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And how does that break down? Well, 97% of Americans believe that if you commit a violent crime, you should be deported 52% believe that if you commit a non violent crime, you should be deported 44% believe that if you arrive in the last four years, you should be deported, but only 15% of that 51% believe that if you have a job, you should be deported. And if your parents that your parents of children born in the United States that if you're you came here and your kids now in America, you should be deported. Only 9% believe that people became his children should be deported.
Right. So if you're a smart Democrat, what you would do is find the categories of people who most Americans don't really believe our priority for deportation and you would focus in on the Trump administration, those people. By the way, the Trump administration knows this, which is why they constantly couch their immigration efforts as targeting criminal illegal immigration. But Democrats are apparently too stupid and too doctrinaire for any of that.
Hey, now what should be done here long term? That's really the question because these riots may well continue, Los Angeles may continue to burn. And here is my perspective on this issue. Democrats may clear they do not want federal law enforcement in there.
They don't want federal law enforcement there to help ice effectuate its arrest. They do not want federal law enforcement involved in any real way, even protecting property in the city of Los Angeles. They want the federal government completely out. They have the voters of California have made this clear because they keep electing Democrats over and over and over again.
And so my informed view is when we used to live in Los Angeles for more than 30 years of my life. I deeply love the city. I have relatives in LA, I have friends in LA, and members of government in LA who are friends is that President Trump in the long term should leave LA to its own devices and let it burn. If they want to burn, let them have it.
Let them do the thing because what that will mean is a continued out migration of people who pay taxes. They continue to out migration of people who own businesses. They continue to movement from Silicon Valley to Austin, Texas, continue movement from LA to Florida and Tennessee, a continued movement. And what should be done by the immigration?
Well, the states that actually don't want illegal immigrants to live there will work hand in glove with the Trump administration to deport as many people as possible. And that will push illegal immigrants to leave red states and then move to blue states. It turns out that one of the single most effective political tactics of my lifetime was Republican governors like Ron and Santa Cruz and Greg Abbott and Texas saying that if Joe Biden was going to leave the border open, they were just going to give bus tickets to illegal immigrants to blue areas like Chicago and New York because it demonstrated that when blue states come down to it, they don't want illegal immigrants there either, but make Democrats live by their own standards, make Democrats eat the cost. If they want it this way, then let them have it.
Let them do it. President Trump's already done his job in shutting the southern border and she continued to do his job in deporting criminal illegal immigrants or victimizing American citizens. When it comes to states that have decided that they wish to bankrupt themselves on the back of illegal immigration, maybe President Trump's just let them do it. And here are five reasons why.
Number one, they voted for this. Okay, California voted for this. California SB 54 stops state and local law enforcement from assisting federal law enforcement. It includes banning cops from asking about immigration status, holding illegal immigrants before the feds after they've been arrested, and sharing non-public personal information with ICE.
The Trust Act in California, which again is law, requires local law enforcement ask for judicial warrants before even complying with ICE to tainer requests. So you have a rapist in jail and that person's in illegal immigrant and ICE puts out a detainer request. If you don't have a judicial warrant, then California will not allow you to comply with the tainer request. California has proposed bills to prevent employers from even allowing ICE access to workplaces in violation of federal law, by the way, or employee records without a court order.
Landlords are not allowed to ask about immigration status in California. California provides driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, medical, which is essentially Medicaid for California citizens, but also for illegal immigrants. California earned income tax credits. So you get like actual checks from the government in California as in illegal immigrant.
If you have kids, free public education for kids in in state and tuition for college. LA has a don't sanctuary city ordinances that prohibit the use of any city resources whatsoever for federal immigration enforcement or cooperation with ICE. The city of Los Angeles treats schools, hospitals, and court houses as quote unquote safe spaces to prohibit immigration enforcement. They voted for this.
This is what they want. So let them have it. H.L. Manchin wants to suggest that about democracy.
Democracy is the theory that the people should get what they want good and hard. That is not wrong. California should just be California and there are a bunch of reasons for this, including by the way, the fact that generally speaking, states should be allowed to be states. Truly, the federal government controls immigration policy at the border.
And President Trump is doing that. And the federal government does have an obligation to support criminal illegal immigrants. You can say they have a broader obligation to support all illegal immigrants, but that's never really been a realistic possibility here. And everybody who watches to deport 20 million illegal immigrants is going to cost you by the best estimates, so one hundred six and seven hundred billion dollars.
Is that going to be something that any administration is going to undertake? I highly doubt it. And you know this because President Trump wasn't unleashing tens of thousands of ICE agents in California. He was unleashing like small coterie's of 100 ICE agents in California to go pick up some people.
That's what the immigration raids were. The federal government should of course try to enforce federal law. But it's not up to the federal government to make states run properly. And in fact, when the federal government under Joe Biden was attempting to get states to stop enforcing immigration law, that was bad too.
The sword cuts both ways. So my view is that the federal government should allow California to be California and if they wish to be a failing state, let them and the federal government should allow Florida and Texas to be Texas and allow successful states to continue to succeed and a population movement. People will vote with their feet. So that is reason number two reason number one, California voted for this reason.
Number two federalism, reason number three, people do not learn their lesson until they reap the reward of their voting. If Californians continue to do this, they will reap the reward they will and eventually maybe they wake up because it turns out that until the American people get it good and hard, sometimes they stick their hand in the stove and then it burns and they remove their hand. California's been sticking their hand in the stove for three decades at this point at a certain point, they might want to wake up, but things are going to have to get pretty bad in order for them to do that. And you know what?
Don't inhibit the badness from happening. Let it happen. Let it go. And that's where the immigration itself, if other states decide to crack down on illegal immigration and work with the federal government to stop illegal immigration, more illegal immigrants will go to California.
California, by the way, is already somewhere between seven and 10% of its population is illegal immigrants. At least 2.6 million illegal immigrants live there as per the LA times as currently 7% of these entire population of California is probably significantly higher than that. The Los Angeles area alone probably has upward of a million illegal immigrants. If they want it, let them have it.
And by the way, we'll save the American federal taxpayer some money. These are not kind of expensive to deploy the National Guard. The projected cost of the current the current protest handling by the National Guard and Marines is supposedly somewhere in the neighborhood of $134 million. I don't feel like paying taxes so that people in LA can yell at the National Guard for enforcing the law.
If they voted for that, listen, I live in that state for years and I paid in millions of dollars in taxes to the California State government for this kind of crappy law enforcement response, which is not the fault of the cops. It is the fault of the political. So why should I pay for that now that I'm in Florida? I don't see a reason why.
Politically speaking, the only way that people learn their lessons to feel the pain of the bad policies they have chosen. And that is why I think there's a solid case made that in the long term, President Trump, just like California, be California and like Avenue some own it, like Avenue some own his state that is collapsing due to the cost of things like illegal immigration and massive social programming, huge debt, driving business out of the state with elevated taxes, lack of law enforcement. You want to understand to destroy my man? All you, all you.
And well, there are some people across the world who actually do not want to turn their countries into Los Angeles. One of those people is the Prime Minister of Hungary, Victor Orban. And we can have a guy sat down with the Prime Minister in Budapest. We played part one of that interview yesterday.
Here is part two of our interview with Prime Minister Victor Orban of Hungary. So back to your domestic policy here. You have a lot of fans on the conservative side of the island. The United States specifically because you've tried to restore a sense of strong Hungarian nationalism.
How do you define Hungarian nationalism? What should the proper role of government be in promoting Hungarian culture? There's sort of a libertarian view in the United States that says government shouldn't be involved in social policy. You should basically leave that up to everybody else.
But the government's not involved in the promotion of virtue or family. What's your view on that? How do you govern in that way? Now that the Fujitanship National Independence in Hungary, sovereignty has been about two things always.
If you look at the map, you will see that we are at the crossroads of war parts. Hungary is a country that somebody always wanted to occupy us. It was the Germans, the Russians, the Ottomans, the Turks. So we continuously have to defend ourselves and maintain our sovereignty.
For that you need an army. You need the military alliances and you need good foreign policy. Foreign policy that is trying to work in every direction to create friends instead of enemies. So sovereignty for us is about rationalism, national feelings and sentiments.
It's the Hungarian state. It's the sovereignty of the Hungarian state being maintained even opposed to Brussels. But sovereignty and nationalism, patriotism, has also has an economic meaning to it that from the perspective of the most important sectors that are important for national sovereignty, you need to have national dominance. It's not exclusivity.
You don't need it to be publically owned, but it needs to be national in the banking system. You need very strong Hungarian ownership. In the energy sector, especially in the strategic elements, the pipelines, energy transmission, you need very strong national ownership, media outlets, which is not only about information, it's business as well. You need to have a defining presence of national ownership, telecommunication, modern technologies.
You need to have substantial Hungarian players. That was not the case when in 2010 I returned into office. Everything was owned by foreigners. We are not communists.
We don't expropriate anything from others. We are not jealous of profits, but we discussed with everybody. We said a certain percentage of ownership should be in Hungarian. We have achieved that.
I can say that nowadays the structure of the Hungarian economy serves the purpose of national sovereignty while it's based on private ownership, where it's embedded into the international commerce and trade, while we welcome foreign investors. We are part, if you wish, of the Western and also the Eastern economic world. The question for nation to prevail over a long period of time, do you actually need the government to set objectives? I would like, if it didn't, to set objectives, that the nation itself would be able to guarantee long-term existence.
Unfortunately, that's not the situation. First and foremost, we are in problems with demography. We are a country of 10 million people, and we have less children born than people dying. And we don't want migration, but if this carries on, we are going to be in dire straits.
First, economically, then in social system, and then ultimately, the whole, I think, we will just fall below the critical size where we are able to fend for ourselves, defend ourselves. So the state has to support families. It's not only because family is good, it's the best thing in the world. I have five children and grandchildren.
That's not the only reason you need to support families, but also because that's the future of the nation. So you need to have, and we created a taxation system. We created labor rules. We created child support systems, which can make families feel safe.
Whether you want to have children, the state cannot decide how many children you need to have. You have to decide. We can help you make a good decision. We can help you decide for life.
Same thing for culture. Compared to America or even most of the Western European countries, culture, sports, religion, I think, in institutions that they operate, schools, hospitals operated by the churches, Hungary spends the largest amount of the GDP in Europe. So there is an economic nationalism also, or no, economic patriotism, I'm sorry. And mention a couple of things there with regard to pro-natalism policy that are really interesting.
One is obviously the tax structures and incentives you've created for families to have more kids. It appears that that had a spiking effect initially, and people having more kids, usually families with a lot of kids having one more or two more kids. And then that seems to have evened out. The real thing that the studies tend to show induces people to have kids more is that feeling of patriotism.
And you see here Israel has a great example. It's the only westernized country that actually is reproducing about replacement rates in the middle of wars and the middle of conflict, specifically because of a feeling of patriotism. You see, people who are very secular in Israel having three or four kids. And so your focus on church and your focus on patriotism here, that focus, it seems to me, is going to be the one that is more likely to produce families that are having more children.
Usually Israel is a great mystery for all of us. Of course, we are looking for positive examples. They are really making a good effort of it. And we don't understand how they are doing it.
We are in a much easier situation than we're still unable to replicate them. So I always continue to study also how Israeli politics is actually impacting families, something we could actually just learn. Tricks from them might have been for decades a good friend of Prime Minister Netanyahu. Even when he was a finance minister in an opposition, we had professional collaboration, how we could actually link economic efficiency with family support.
What concerns us, what we are doing is we are linking work, labor with the family through the taxation system. In 2010, in this country, 61% of people were employed, which was extremely low amount. And we went to 81, 82% now. That's good, the employment.
But at the same time, we also want young people to have children. And if we want them to work and have children at the same time, that means it's through the taxation system that we can best support them. So we are putting a lot of money into family support through the taxes. And if you have two or three children, majority part of your revenues, in revenue, you are not paying tax on it.
There's a big problem. Secularization is of course strong and hungry. Divorces are also very high in Hungary. So there is this reticence among mothers to have children.
I divorce. The husband leaves me. How will I survive? So there is a special focus on supporting mothers, so a mother who has given birth to three children.
And from January 1st, two children, they are tax-free until the end of their life in Hungary. So if you have two children and you are a woman, if you are single or you are married, you will not pay personal income tax in order to support. Because we believe the mother is the key of the family. We have to help them support them.
Things like that. That's what we are trying. There is a long, long period of maternity leave that you have in Hungary. A lot of things which might lock sure through some American ears, but it's important in Hungary for younger people to dare to have children.
So there is another problem here, of course. My mother gave birth to me when she was 20. My children, my grandchildren are born closer to the age of 30 for my children. And more and more women are deciding to have children after the age of 30.
So these are new phenomena on which the family policy has to reflect. It has to be reflected there. How to support them? How to support them later on?
It's a very, very intricate system. Mothers, family support measures are a very intricate system that helps to support or tries to support in every phase of life. Am I conviction? The future of Hungarian lies in the future of families.
Family is the most important building block. One is more after that comes the nation and then the Lord. And if these three together, everything works fine. One of the words we've mentioned a couple of times, which has become a dirty word among secularists, is Christianity and the strong Christian identity of Hungary.
And one of the reasons for that is a sort of weird belief that's taken hold in the West, that more Christian a country is somehow the less tolerant it is. And obviously Budapest proves that that's not true. I mean, this is maybe the only country in Europe where I can walk around openly wearing the Amica and feel safe at this point in time because it is a country with a strong Christian identity. Can you talk about what Christianity means to the Hungarian identity?
How you've fostered cooperation between government and religion in the country? Or, Christianity and nation and the relation between the two is very, very special. And not very easy to digest for an American. In Hungarian history, we have had many occasions when it was only Christianity and church that helped the national identity to prevail.
So, if you are a believer or not, everybody in Hungary agrees that without Christianity, there would be no Hungarian state, no Hungary. And this is something stipulated in the Constitution, or the Constitution recognizes the force of Christianity to preserve the nation. It is a historic experience. It's nothing we should argue for philosophically.
It's a learning. It's something we learned over a thousand years. It's important. If we lose this, we lose something important.
We'll be weakened. So, we are trying to preserve Christianity. Of course, this is going to be done under duress. You cannot force people to be religious or to be Christians.
It's up to the church. The government cannot spread the gospel. It's up to the church. And it's up to the priest.
Sometimes they do a good job. Sometimes not. In the whole of Europe, their things are not quite in order. But in the whole of Europe, Hungary is the one single country where church-run institutions, their number of church-run institutions is increasing.
More than 20% of all schools are run by churches. More than 80% of all children's institutions are operated by churches. Some of our hospitals are run by churches, and I myself, with a self-declared policy, I'm helping churches to take over as many public institutions if those who work there who are actually employed there are not against this, because the church runs schools better than the state can. The church runs a hospital better than the state can.
It is just a historic fact. So Christianity beyond belief and faith is also rendering public service, social service that everybody needs. So in Hungary you can be a Jew, you can be a Provost's Love, you can be a catalyst, you can be Calvinist. But still, it's a community of faith that you belong to, and in itself belonging to a community of faith is a positive thing.
It's good for the nation, it's good for your children, it's good for the future. These faith communities, their strength reinforces the whole country, so the government believes that although there is no interference into church affairs, like church cannot interfere into state, it's a secularized, we want the strong Hungary, the stronger the communities of faith, the stronger Hungary. For Westerners, Europeans believe this is feudalism. I don't believe this.
I think this is normal. So to turn to the United States, you obviously have a very warm relationship with President Trump, you had a warm relationship with him during his first term, you have a good relationship with him during his second term. What would you like to see the United States do in terms of its foreign policy in order to strengthen and support allies like Hungary, build up those alliances around the world? As you know, there's sort of an open debate even on the right of the United States between, should say, a more isolationist foreign policy and more hawkish and interventionist foreign policy.
Where do countries like Hungary see the United States as the most important in the world? Okay. There are traditional issues in foreign policy, security, military force, GDP, investment trade, et cetera. These are important.
But now, in the Western world, behind all this, there's an even more important struggle going on, what I called for a struggle for the soul of the West. Left is progressive or right is the conservative, traditional Christian. That's the battle. For a long, long time.
Almost for 30 years. In the West, it was the conviction that this battle for the soul of the West has been won by liberals. Secular leftist progressives have won this battle. We are just retreating.
We are retreating and in defense. And then in 2010, we get a two-third majority during the elections in Hungary. We amend the Constitution. And we create the foundations of a conservative Christian, rightist, traditionalist, pro-community, new political order, economic order.
But we were alone with this. And the reason I are supported Trump in 2015 already, President Trump, that he wins the 2016 elections, because I felt that if somebody is not coming in America, who is going to come to our health assistance, we will lose the fight for the soul of the West. We will be overcrowded by the migrants. We will drown in the vote ocean.
The future of our children will be taken out of our hands. Global financial networks will operate the country and not the elected leaders. So we need somebody great, courageous and strong. And that's why I supported him in 2016.
It didn't count too much. It was a small country support. But I believed every voice helped. So I stood by him openly.
And that is what I believe now that his victory last year was the greatest thing that could have happened with the West. Because his victory sends the signal that this is a battle that can be fought and perhaps won. It's not over yet. Not even in America.
It's not over yet. It's actually battle in progress. It is perhaps worth fighting. Perhaps it's a winnable one.
So his person is not a solution to our problems. He's not our savior. He's not going to redeem us. He is fighting for his cause back there.
And we are fighting for our cause here. We know each other. We are aware of each other. And we help one another.
That's the deepest structures of politics. Beyond that you have trade and commerce and investment and security. But there is this struggle battle for the soul of the West. And there we are allies of one another.
Americans there. Europeans here. We are building like-minded European leaders, well, a network of like-minded leaders. That is the family of the patriots.
That's what we created after Indo-European parlance, after the European elections last year. So his victory in the U.S. was the greatest encouragement. There is hope.
You should not give up your dreams. It is not true that you are on the wrong side of history. Migration is bad. If you fight against it, you are good.
Gender is bad. If you fight against it, you are on the good side. The family is good. Gender is bad.
And I could just go on. And I think the hope is bad. And that actually has lent us energy, has started processes. We created the family of patriots in the European Parliament.
Hope is the most important. And the victor of Donald Trump, for the whole Western world, Christian, conservative, Westerners brought hope. That's why we trust his-and be-and-hop for his success. And while the liberal political network has been financed in the past from America substantially, it was American money spent here in Hungary financing our enemies from USAID.
Well, the U.S. president cut this off, published this, showed it for the world, how it works. And we found out everything is true in Hungary. We like to say, it's time to come up with new-you-contails because the old ones have all proven to be true.
So it's a huge help that now these money has been cut off. That's what his victory means for us. So meanwhile, for you as a smaller country, having to navigate an increasingly multipolar world where it's not just the United States, it's global hedge-mon facing down the Soviet Union, you now have the United States, which is dominant. And the world, China is a rising power.
It's unclear whether China's growing power is going to be countered by a group of allies or whether it's going to continue to expand their power. Russia obviously is an expansionist power in Ukraine. Many of the Baltic states are worried about that as well. How do you navigate a complicated world?
It used to be a little bit more of a simple world. And it seems like it's getting more complicated. I think, yes. But that's not a problem.
I think the world was the simplest when I was young. You had the East and the West, but that was a horrible thing. I lived 26 years in that world. You're young.
You should never find out what it meant to live there. The world is more complicated. You have the West, you have Russians, Chinese, and Greeks, and India, and the Brazilians, and America, and Brussels. It's much more complicated, but that's not a problem.
The old world was much worse. But this is a challenge for us. In a complicated environment, you need to be clever about it. Hungary actually just needs to collect friends.
And in this respect, there's a lot of potential in the American-Hungarian relations. I'll give you an example. By the administration, punished Hungarian-Hungarians by basically stopping the double taxation agreement. We don't have double taxation agreement.
There's an administrative obstacle for Hungarians and Americans to collaborate well in the economy. And there's a new president, and it seems he still has more important things on his agenda, than to actually reinstate normalcy. So there's no investment. Chinese are bringing huge amounts of investments here.
We are calling the Americans. There's little American investment coming. Hungary was on the negative list during the Biden administration. So we need to revive that.
We should also be allowed to go to invest in America in the visa system. The Biden administration punished us. They actually degraded us into a complicated system. There's a lot of things still in the American-Hungarian relations that we can improve and we should improve and I think America can create good relations with us.
It's important for us and for America as well. The president has tried to motivate Europe to move away from China. What you make of that move is that something that Hungary is considering. How does Hungary see China as a future geopolitical competitor in the United States?
Of course, the American perspective is different than ours. What the American president and the USA expects of us is that we should be loyal members of NATO. That when it comes to security issues, NATO is the priority partner. Nothing can endanger that.
Nothing can endanger the loyal cooperation of Hungary with NATO. No other relationship either with Russia or with the Chinese. That's legitimate. Economy is different though.
Trade is different. Well, the Americans, of course, you are trading in huge volumes with the Chinese. Well, we want in. It's good for us.