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It's a sad day for me actually, I'm actually quite depressed. Um, because the man, oh, at 154 pounds, uh, has lost his title to all the big talk I gave him as well, John. Back up, I noticed that he had just lost a Josh Kelly. How can I ask?
It's not even like he lost a boot tennis or someone with a lost a Josh Kelly. But no, you know what, John, Fairfax to Josh Kelly, uh, an excellent performance. And it's always good John Cena for Englishman. He's been a world title.
I was wondering if everyone would have spent this. Are you okay? I'm genuinely surprised we're podcasting today. I thought this was wonderful to this amount of people who are not on the phone to me.
Oh, well, maybe afterwards, maybe afterwards. Oh, yeah, because I gave him the big talk didn't I? I think it was, um, you know, like how, you know, like how someone will, like, Lewis Ritzson, right? Like he, 135 pounds at British level, or like David Price at British level, um, you know, heavyweight.
You'll see them like steam roller, the domestic scene, like Lewis Ritzson. Steam roller is a domestic scene. Wins the Lonsdale Belt outright in record time. And people will go, people that fans are here is whatever, be like, oh, it's going to be this.
It's going to be that. Cause he's done it at that level. And I think that's what happened with me. I saw Murtis Ali, I've just smashed Tim's U to bits.
Tim's U who's, you know, a shot, you know, not a very defensive fighter anyway. And I think a little bit short, but I saw Murtis Ali, I've just smashed him to bits. And I was like, that's it. That's my guy.
Maybe that's how it's like to be a good, naughty, glaukin fan back in the day, you know. Cause they watched him punch everybody and they dinged him the greatest fighter in the world. It just didn't fucking show any guy on any fence or anything. But yeah, fair play.
Fair play. Yeah. And in all fairness, as much as I'm probably going to laugh at you several times throughout this podcast, we all get a bit over excited about one stage or another. Yeah.
Like everybody has a fighter who does something like, oh, they are amazing. You know, they all fact and logic to fly it with no and just go on vibes and feelings. And you're not the only one. We've all done it.
But yeah, Josh Kelly fought a really smart fight. And Murtis Ali have, you know, a lot of ways for similarly to him. He did against Jack Kolkai, but wasn't able to find that short in the end. And they referenced that on comms, didn't they?
About how, you know, in the Kolkai fight. We found a shot in the ninth, didn't he? But I think by then he looked tired. I thought I thought Murtis Ali have looked tired, which I was surprised because he wasn't like he'd thrown loads.
He was just following Kelly around. But yeah, I thought Kelly showed, I think the other surprising thing, John, was I thought Kelly showed a little bit more pop than perhaps we expected, not from the knockdown. I think he just caught Murtis Ali have a square on. He just shifted position and caught him square on for Jab and just dropped him.
He wasn't ever hurt or anything like that. I think he definitely buzzed Murtis Ali for a few times. What did he think? Absolutely.
And it's, I don't think it's the same thing to do with this power. I think it is speed and angles. Yeah. It's the punch that's coming that hurt you and he can change the angle and can put it in injection of pace and he can buzz anybody.
I don't think that he's ever going to be a brutal knockout artist. But particularly early on in this career, we seem to do this at a much more level. But Murtis Ali have in a lot of ways was really untasted. Sorry, I was just going to say probably helped as well.
Murtis Ali have been out of the ring for so long. He's going to get fight, good for a year or so. Yeah, because a lot of people like you thought he was the dingy band of the division, like some respected match makers really did not want to go near Murtis Ali. And there are plenty of people who Murtis Ali will beat at quite a high level.
A mover with hand speed and stamina is always going to be an issue. Which is why it didn't actually pick Josh Kelly in this fight. It was because there have always been question marks about Kelly in the second half of the fight. He faded badly against Ishmael Davis.
He worked far too hard in the opening rings against David Avonice and he gets stuck in the sick. So I was worried about Kelly, but I think it was Barry Jones on comes picked up on the fact that Kelly stance wasn't as wide as it usually is. Yes, he did. He did notice that.
And they'd really set him up to keep moving for the full 12 rounds. And given his new, he managed to do it. He was a very smart game plan. And I would actually go as far as to say that is probably the greatest coaching performance of Alimbus.
Yeah, I saw you. It's hard to look at Alimbus Korea and I suppose the other two that the most famous ones I'd say is probably when George goes to go to the gale and perhaps when David Habeek, Nick I have Alimave. Those were the two that kind of made his name as kind of this dark lord, this kind of tactical genius. And then he's never really got near it since.
I don't think he's ever really, I don't think he's ever coached a fighter at that kind of world level to a performance. I think that's something so disciplined. It's probably the best results actually and you know, kind of result for Adam Booth's kind of reputation in quite a while. Yeah, I think the others that could be included is the more make fight and pat us for David Habeek.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And rebuilding Andy Lee to get to be portable. Yes, yes.
Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair.
Yeah, that is, yeah. Because Andy Lee, he looked like a guy that was kind of on the way out and then they'd get their turn in at 154 didn't they He's after the Jackson fight. No, we're going to go back to him stay in middle again. And then yeah, he was kind of, yeah, he did well to back to a world title then at that point, didn't he?
So yeah, it's a good show actually. That is a good show. I saw last night that, and do you know what? Very fast to Josh Kelly.
He doesn't, he doesn't like anybody really, you know, David Evanissian. And then Matus Alio, he was like, like you said, the boogeyman in the division and the trick to one or two of us into thinking he was a serious fight. Although I'm actually now I'm sat here talking about it. I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Matus Alio and Dodgy was on the other side.
Possibly it makes me think of Tottenham West and when the top four trying to get the top four on the lasagna gate. It feels like the lasagna gate part two to be honest. Someone needs to test his food. But yeah, it looks like John that he's going straight in with boots in his over in the States who boots in his.
I don't know, this seems to be some stuff going on with the was the stuff he would virtual teams like they want to make the fight. But it feels like Delo here's kind of getting in the way of it. Am I over simplifying that? It seems complicated.
I think unfortunately they are promoted by two men with gin on this ego suit. Just like one another. Yep. And I think any deal between Eddie and Osordel Hoya particularly when Turkey isn't throwing bags of money behind it is always going to be next impossible.
Because you know obviously Eddie heard them Frank Morrow and were sworn enemies for years weren't they for a long time. But you know he's Turkey and this came along and Wavsen pound notes about and they were like alright and now you can't separate them. Now the pair of them you know you can't see one without the other you know but yeah I think Delo here is. There's a chemical imbalance there.
He's not all there. Is it a chemical imbalance or is he a balance by chemicals? Well he knows right maybe one. Yeah one is one in the other kind of equal to what we get right.
But yeah it feels it just yeah that's he's not a stable guy. He doesn't act like a stable guy and I think yeah I think even like you said without Turkey throwing in mental money to kind of make the ego go away that the fight just doesn't get made. And I don't think it will now and it seems that herner's very very cleverly keeping it in house and will try to make boots any sort of world champion. Well they're both kind of his fighters aren't they but I suppose he's going to be his side in a way because it's to try to crack that American market John.
What do you think? Yeah and Kelly he's only got a cool promotional contact with the Cyrilans still have a share. Ah yes it's not really his guy then. No they're going to find Cash out Kelly.
Yeah yeah yeah it looks like he's 31 and I guess if you look great last night and actually clearly the performance of his career you know and he paced it really well as well. I think that was important how he was able to you know that 11th for having after the I got knocked down in the ninth. And I think the 10th was murdered out of kind of flatter disease and then the 11th Kelly came out just won it and won the round and tried to light it like murdered out of up. And I think he showed that Kelly that he can pace the fight really well that when it is tough he's not just going to get on his bike and run he didn't have the amme a country he did a bit but he never looked there was only one occasion I thought I was actually tired and he was off to lock down he fell over voluntarily kind of they called it a slip but yeah I thought in the end he faced it really well.
I know you're not a massive fan of boots any so who would you like in that one? Not that I'm not a massive fan of boots any so it's just I cannot understand why he would be a favorite against Virgil Ortiz when boots any of his hands would be done all full off. He looks good he looks flashy against the guys he's faced but Virgil Ortiz has got more proven pedically and I think that boots would probably be Kelly relatively comfortably. I think in a lot of ways Kelly's advantages come from the hands and angles and he's just one of the things he probably does those things a little bit better than he does.
Yeah and and he's massive and he's a lump like he's a big old lump and he's got a lot of I don't think he's really a puncture I know he won his last fight in the first round but I'm not sure he's a huge puncture at the weight. So yeah I would fancy boots especially in America he's not going to have those new castle perhaps it might be more interesting but I suppose it depends on what Adam Bork Gengtlandy puts together boots and it's but yeah it does. It does kind of feel like a cash out job here. What do you think of the scores in the end it was 113 even and 114 one 12 times two.
15 111 in there I think. Oh did you know what I did you check that. What did you think how did you have it? I had it's 114 112.
Yeah same one 15 one and you're right it was 115 111 114 which is a draw but the knockdown is wrong isn't it? Well the records cancel each other. Yeah they do yeah you're right yeah you're right. Yeah so one's just six rounds each with a knockdown.
Yeah 175 with both knockdowns. It's all five times. Yeah I think 115 111 I think I think that judge was kind of like the design comms where they were really in love with Kelly's defence but he wasn't just wasn't throwing enough and actually was sticking my mouth a bit last night to be honest. I'm going to get the bucket just in case because I just overed but I actually agree with Tony Bell you I never agree with Tony Bell you know I know I know I actually agreed they went to him.
I was like oh my god do you want to just stop like stop talking because you're just talking too much sense right now and he never talks sense. I've never disliked anybody more. It's like so careful to me like what what and then he was just talking. He was I agreed of him it was I thought that his own comms for like fell in love with Josh Kelly's movement but murders alley have and you can call that in general ship right like you always say you can call that in general ship on the back foot.
But he just wasn't doing enough offensively to for me to have him as wide as the design comms did you see it like that or. I'm not somewhere between the two stances yeah so bill you was holding ratings for Mertisalia or Mertiliah as he kept on calling me. He did. He really threw out in the insane like because I'm going to go to one side and tell him I pronounce the guy's name.
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this wasn't some last minute journeyman to living as a world champion. If you've done your research, watch fights, you've heard Comantater say his name, there's no ice loose, but I went somewhere between the two scanses because I wasn't as in love as the zone combs were with what Kelly was doing. But at the same time, Bill, you were scoring values for marginal and more punches thrown that weren't landing. So that's ineffective and there wasn't as if he was pulling it on and throwing seven punch combinations and maybe one was getting through where there's Kelly was only pot shot and Mertis Alia got suckered into this long-range jab face about little bit of hands that he wasn't really winning.
And if he was pulling forward, I wasn't seeing what Bill you were seeing. Yeah, I think that's important actually that while he was doing the walking forward, he wasn't throwing it in a volume where you can give him the rounds. He just wasn't. He got counted a couple of times early on and seemed to get a little gun shy and it was only really after he scored the knockdown.
I thought after about round eight, he started to open up a bit more as Kelly's feet slowed down and he started to throw a little bit more. But even then if you look at the punch stats and I know not a whole bunch of massive believer in punch stats, but it's a very idea. It's some nerdy of a PlayStation controller in their hand and they're pushing buttons, but I guess it's just a gauge. But I think even to the eye test, Mertis Alia wasn't throwing loads more than Kelly is what I'm saying, basically.
He wasn't throwing loads more. And he should if you want to win rounds against the guy going backwards, but that is countering you, you need to be throwing more. And yeah, you could see it at the end of the rounds, they would put the punch stats up and it'd be quite close and it's like, mate, you got to do more. You're away from home, you got to do more.
But yeah, I thought I'd draw or but I thought Kelly won it. I thought Kelly won in the end. Yeah, it was but yeah, there's no coms, let's turn it down. But we always do.
There's always do, right? It didn't feel as it didn't make me as angry as usual last night. How was it for you? I don't like having fighters on coms when one of the two fighters is employing game plans and tactics somewhere to fight their own coms when they were in the ring.
Right. So the Edwards was always going to please everything Josh Kelly did. Yeah. At one point, he was there going, that's better me.
That's better me. It's always going to be a biased towards what you did. Yeah. And usually some of the Edwards is fighting because there aren't many people who employ Sunday Edwards as tactics.
No, but having Sonny Comte and Josh Kelly wasn't the best. Like, I don't know. He's brilliant. He's brilliant.
He's great. And Sonny wasn't terrible, but he was really cheerleading for what he like as a fighter. That entire performance was always going to appeal to Sonny Edwards. Because he wasn't a comforter guy.
He was on the back of the pot shot in changing angles. That was the way he fought. Do you see what I mean? Yeah.
That is going to be a bias towards how he fought because like he said himself, that's a bit of me. Right. It's what I was good at. And I'm seeing that in the ring.
And then on the opposite side, when he would do something slightly different to what Sonny Edwards would normally do, he would criticize that as well. If it wasn't just how Sonny Edwards would do it, he would almost be critical of Josh Kelly, particularly in the early going. I thought so. I thought so anyway.
The only thing I thought it actually was less annoying Adam Smith is, yeah, it's not fit for purpose, but whatever. It's the fucking screaming anytime somebody lands a shot. It's like, but they hold the microphone in their hand. It's not either wearing a headset.
They hold it in their hands so they can take it away. You know, there's just no mic discipline. And so, and they're screaming for shots that aren't doing anything. Like no, someone lands at the half decent shot.
Like, wow, it's like nothing's happened. Screaming at someone gets sparked out. I can get it. I can get it.
You're not expecting it. And it happens. I get it. But they're just screaming at every, every half decent shot that lands.
And it's so fucking boring. But yeah. I did. Yeah.
I did. It was fascinating. I did. I thought it was fascinating because there was always that kind of element of danger there.
Obviously, you'd see kind of Kelly fall apart against the slow-burned psychological thriller. Okay. You know, there was, it was the Josh Kelly High Wire Act. Because as you said, we've seen him fall apart before.
We've seen Mertazalev pull out a lead stoppage in a world title fight. You can take your eyes off it. Like Parasite. Have you seen Parasite?
It starts off as this kind of, it's almost quite fun. Like this, this Korean family are trying to get in with this rich family so they can make themselves a couple of quid. And then there's just a turn and a twist. And it becomes a completely different film.
It won. I think it won the best picture Oscar for people that haven't seen it. It's a Korean film and it's fucking great. Like it's great.
I actually can't watch it again just because it's like, at the end I was like, Oh my God, like this film was a bit much. It was great. It was great. Yeah.
It's kind of like the Parasite of boxing matches. Yeah. It was a good one. It was a good one.
Good fight. I didn't enjoy it. But what I have to see as well is a one for Mertazalev and Floyd Forward. Yeah.
He doesn't sell a ticket. He doesn't have a belt. And he's stuck with me in the vince. He's stuck with main events and they're just they don't have a TV deal.
Yeah. Like if he was with PBC or Golden Boy or something, you could see them making like a boat. Yeah. As a chief support something big.
Yeah. Yeah. But when a promoter doesn't have a speaking Mertazalev, why are they going to risk one of their fighters? Yeah, against a puncture.
Yeah. Like where are we? Junior middleweight looking at it now? So yeah, he's obviously because he's the world champion.
He's not ranked. That's the other thing. He does never rank him because he had the belt. You know, I'll rank him somewhere in the top three.
There's no there's no fighter in the top three. So they might put him at number three. But they're not going to frame back in as a mandatory anytime soon. And the other three aren't going to aren't ranking him right now because he had an IVF title again.
He might get ranked with them. You know, if he comes back anytime soon, but main events have got to find him a fight and he's got paid well. He's last two fights. He was on a PBC card.
He got paid very well for that. And he'll be paid well last night for a matter of what I mean. events are going to be able to pay him next time out. Yeah, you do at any 33.
You do you do worry about him really. He's probably going to end up going to middleweight just to get a fight. But he's fucking nothing. The middleweight.
You know what I mean? There's nothing there. Like you've got to bet. Go on.
In fact, he spoke about you could go down the welter. Oh, look at what he read in that. Yeah. He was a couple of pounds beneath the one five for a divisional limit.
Yeah. Yeah. I suppose he could go to welter, but Crocker's not going to fight him. Romero is already stuck in his mandatory.
Barrios is trying to feed the Ryan Garcia, but he's going to beat Ryan Garcia. He's going to beat him. And then he's going to beat Connebet. And by then, he's looking for it with the year contender.
He's going to be doing pay per view. He's going to be outside of a pay per view, Maria Barrios. He's not fighting murders, Aliev. He's just not.
Yeah. You do have to worry about him. We already know what's next to Josh Kelly. Yeah.
We already know he's fighting boots. Yeah. Since we're talking about you, man, who's biggest win is against Tim Zu. Yeah.
Can we do a brief segue into another zoo? Oh, good. Yes. Yes.
A perfect 10. We quit from Australia. Tell us all about Adam. So a couple of weeks ago, Tim Zu's younger brother, Nikita, was fighting Michael Zaraffa.
Who bought Calbrook some years ago, didn't he? Yes. You might remember him from fighting Calbrick. You might remember his unsuccessful world title challenge against Lara.
There's a few things you might remember Michael Zaraffa for, Al-Yurcan calling him a slipper. Yep. So there's a few things you might remember Michael Zaraffa for, but Zaraffa was fighting Nikita Zu, suffered a small, small cut from parts of heads. Yep.
The doctor was asked to inspect it. I'm on three or four occasions. He said, I can't see. I can't see.
I can't see. Therefore, the doctor advised the referee that stop the fight. The fight was stopped then in footage backstage. We heard him saying it was bloody.
He's one stage and tried to claim he had it detached right now. Then he's gone, oh no, actually sorry. I just used the wrong words. It was just a little bit bloody.
Tim Zu called him the person because he fought with a fucking gash on his head against one door after 10 rounds. Yep. He did. So we've had to him.
And the Australian public are all limit. And this was a paper view. A paper view in Australia. They do love a random paper view, didn't they, Australia?
But yeah, I saw it. If you were to look at him after the fight, you think, what's, why have you quit? Why have you pulled out? Because you can barely notice the car.
You can see a little red in around his eye. It's a tiny little car. It's not going in his eye. Get the fuck on with it.
And yeah, it's just a proper 10 out of 10. It's different from a victor or tease or even a bro out of Duran where you've just gone, I just don't want it. Because they've had a fight and they've beaten up. This guy's just didn't want to just didn't fancy it in the end.
He's just like, well, I'm he's just those guys are actually more honest. I think that's what it is. That's what I'm stammering around for. You think of Virgil Victor or tease, you know, even Duran to an extent that there's an honesty in it where it's I just don't fancy it.
Whereas, you know, with Duran, he was getting moved by Ray Leonard and just didn't fancy it. Victor or tease just wasn't that guy anymore and didn't fancy it. And there was an honesty there. This is dishonest.
It's a detached retinor. It's blurry. So I'm like, no, no, you've got a little scratch on your eye and you just want to weigh out in the hope that you could get a rematch payment. Am I hitting the nail on the head?
I think you're absolutely small one. But who amongst us hasn't got the rest made their way to work? Well, I'm just not fucking feeling it today. I said, I've got a headache or my stomach's not good.
I'm going, you just can't be fucking harsh doing your job that day. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And that's and perhaps that's what he's done. So I kind of feel like you forgive him, John, that you're saying it's okay.
We did. I don't think we've ever, but we've all fucking done it. But we're not not paid to top. No, no, we haven't spent days and weeks talking ourselves up in order to sell.
You know, we haven't spent days, I'm going to come in the office tomorrow and have a fucking blinder. And there's no one that can outwork me. I'm going to smash the shit out of this fucking spreadsheet tomorrow. Like, we're not doing any of that.
We just, everybody knows what we're walking that we're depressed. And no, we all are. Everybody in the building is miserable. We're all in it together.
We'll just need a couple of quid to pay the mortgage or pay the rent or whatever. This guy's, I'm not going to fucking smash this spreadsheet. I'm going to fucking get those reports. And then he's gone in and he's gone.
I'll go take our eyes out and I'm going home. And you're right. I think that's the difference, isn't it? That's the difference.
It's okay to go to work and not fancy it because we never fancy it. But this guy's pretending that he did fancy it for days and weeks. In order to get paid more, because that's what it's about, right? It's pay for the cuts and all that.
He's looking to get bonus out of it. And then when he, when the chest cleared, he's breaking straight out the door again. Maybe he's a hero to all of his time. Oh, wait, perhaps that's what we need for the hero we deserve.
Maybe the hero we deserve, right? I think that's, that's a good way of summoning up, I think. But yeah, it was very much a 10 out of 10 queer. I think a 10 out of 10 performance was from Shikor Stevenson last night, John.
Oh, almost. Well, to be fair, the scorecards would actually correct me as well because they all three were 119.109. And not a perfect 10 performance, more like a 9.5 John. So first of all, I'm going to start to give him Shikor Stevenson all the credit world.
Like T.V. Mo Bo Pez is somewhere in the top 15 pound for paying for almost all by fine. I don't think that is how probably I don't think that's an exaggeration. Most people would have seen people in Mo Pez somewhere in the top 15.
Yeah, yeah. And Shikor Stevenson was utterly brilliant last night, barely lost around. Really well, people are going on about how bad Mo Pez was, but Steven's made him with that bad. But the one critique is you see in the early brains of the second half of the fight sort of 789.
Yep. He starts doing nothing again. Nothing. You don't need to do that.
You don't want to tell him in the world, just at some point in every fucking fight Shikor Stevenson says, I'm just going to fuck all for three rates. Yeah. Like, will you pick once when a ring will they fade through a punch? Should they face them in three in the bank?
If you single fight? That's a very must have won two of the three because they gave him 11 12. So he's kind of, he's kind of, he thought, will you pick something for one now? I'll go do it for free.
I mean, he did. I haven't looked in detail at the cards. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean.
I know what you mean. It's you've got to, I think when you box like he does, you have to, he is a lot like Floyd. He even talks like him. He really does.
He doesn't sound like him in terms of his voice doesn't sound like him, but his cadence and the expressions he uses. I know he's like best he's with Terrence Crawford who just needs that like a retired fighter and go away. Like, he's fucking everywhere, Terrence Crawford. You see, you see more of a cunt since he retired than before he was fighting, like when he was fighting like Jesus, the Jesus.
But I don't think he's retired. Do you don't remember Tony Bell use? Yes. Tony Bell, you call me Anthony.
You'll never see again. I'm going home to my wife. My kids. Yes.
I'm more names into the tone than I would have been. He was fighting. He did that S. A S program.
He did celebrity jungle. He did soccer aid. He just can't. He's never seen.
I think if someone was filming their kids playing the football when he saw something, there was a camera, he'd try and jump in front of that as well. Tony Bell use of an envelope. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, he would. He would anything any envelope, Wilkinson's or Screw Fix. He'd be there for Paris is as he did it for free. Absolutely loves the attention.
And maybe a couple of quid that comes with it. But yeah, Crawford, you just, he's sucking everywhere. He just can't stop seeing him. He's sucking everywhere.
But yes, Stevenson, he sounds so much like Floyd when he speaks, it's quite uncanny. And he does fight like him as well. But I think perhaps even more in than CBE. But yeah, I thought it was, it was a, I think it was a really good win.
But I found it harder people that were found it hard to find people that were picking Lopez because we've seen him have bad performances before multiple times, whereas we've seen little, perhaps small dents from Chikors even some, but not really. So yes, Stevenson won. Yes, it was an excellent performance, but he didn't, the result and the performance didn't surprise me in the slightest. But I don't know what he can do that will, he's in that space, I think, where it's going to take him to do something really exceptional to really impress people, I think.
Like what Crawford did when he went up and thought Canelo would be, canelo that way, he'll have to do something exceptional like that. The only fight afterwards he called out Connebene. Like he knows he'll, he knows he'll beat Connebene handily or whatever way they want, like it's kind of Ben's just not very good. But he seems to want that fight doesn't he?
Of course he wants that. Everybody wants that fight. It is a massive payday for the easiest night work any of these fighters could ever get. I do not believe any of them for wanting that fight because Chikors even could be Connebene with one hand tight gains back.
He could do it off that right hand ravel. I don't blame any of the big names for wanting it. I won't watch it, I won't pay for it, but I can't see why they want it and also where she's here. To be honest, none of his fights are particularly exciting to me at the minute because he's so good that I can't think of anyone from lightweight to well-erweight who will pick overshaker.
I think Hanie's the best, I think he's got the best onshakers. He's massive and stylistically there's some similarities there. I think that's the only one but I think Chikors would be him. He's quite tall, Chikors Stevenson as well.
He's about all dizzy. He's five-aged, he's not as tall as I thought he was, but he's yeah he looks bigger than that. I think you're right, you pick him to be anybody, you pick him to be crocker, hanging out a push, Connebene easily, right I see a fucking easily. That gives us rubbish.
If I were to do to adult and Smith? Oh god yeah, but he's saying John, he's going to go back to 135. He is and I just don't know what he will go for the money is. The only person I would really think had a good shot beating him and they both said it'll never happen is Keishan Davis.
Yeah, yeah he won last night, right? He did, and he looked good beating Jimmy Nortese, Bortese more comfortably than Tfq all the pays had. It was a good showing for a guy who's career has fallen off the rails a little bit but supremely talented and the only person I would think could beat Chikors Stevenson by their two calls and they say it won't happen. Yeah, yeah that's fair enough.
The only other thing that happened on the undercard was that Joramila got his fucking syrup bunched off. There's been this kind of attempt by Matrim to rebuild Joramila into a heavy weight that people like because he obviously failed free drug tests and every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid and Matrim and Eddie Hearn and Eddie Hearn's an exceptional promoter and we tried to make it more like all. There's nothing more likeable than it's humbling and we like people that are humbling. There's nothing more humbling John I think than getting your syrup bunched off in the middle of a fight.
What do you think? It was super things like I be sending his wickflaying and then pulling him off the corner. Why don't you wear a wig in a boxing match? It's just mental.
I can't even get put a while. I don't know where he went from. I don't know how long he's had a setup. Yeah, it's true.
He could have had it for ages and ages and got away with it and then he's gone to see a new, I think he called a manweaves. He's gone to see another manweave guy. He got it put on or what do they call it? A hair treatment thing or whatever it's a syrup.
He's gone to see a new guy and he's used shitty glue or not the right amount of glue or whatever and he ended up getting it punched off. He's eating that uppercut and the bucking syrup came off like a good fellas. Nothing more humbling than that really John is there. No, but it was good quality entertainment.
I know a lot of people didn't like that fight. You don't like this for sloppy shitty heavyweight fights? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
That was a sloppy shitty heavyweight fight. Yeah, it was. It was talking of shitty sloppy heavyweight fights. We've got directors Auro and Dionne Tae Wilder announced for London.
I assume it's going to be the O2 announced for April. I think Wilder so shots a bit. I didn't mind him getting a shot at Usek because I thought Usek wanted the name, but this, it's like, Chizora wants the name now. What do you think of this fight?
Sorry. Oh, I'm in two minds. Yeah. Because number one, I love a fight between two-shot fighters.
Same. Yeah. And they aren't probably speaking two-shot fighters, but I think Wilder is more shot than Chizora by a considerable margin. I agree.
So I think it's particularly entertaining. No, I think, yeah, I think Chizora's going to walk through him because I just don't think Wilder is that guy anymore. And I thought Usek would just walk through Wilder as well. I thought he'd have toyed him a bit because that's how he is.
But Chizora's not going to carry him like that. He's just going to throw one of those over hand right over the top and get him out of there. Wilder's just not that guy. And he's just this, you know, Arasaka, the fucking mushrooms that he went and smoked in the woods.
Like, he's done that. He's just a different guy. That losing fights and, you know, all the rest of it. It's just, he's not that guy anymore.
He doesn't have it anymore. And I think it could be over quick to win. I don't think it's going to last long at all. But even if the power is there, she's always going to stand in front of him.
The last part is forward. So if it is just the case of Zhang and Parker being bad stylistic match-ups and Wilder is actually no more or less shot than he ever has been because he's always had limitations. We've always suspected that people fall a certain way against Wilder. He would have a lot of problems.
This would be the taste of just how shot he is. The character is absolutely tailor-made for that. He's very janked, which I have trying to keep him on the end of it and then bring him the right hand behind it. Yeah.
He is because he stands there to show you that high guard, like the cross-armed kind of Joe Fraser guard for people that played fight night on the PlayStation II. He does that cross-armed thing that Joe Fraser would do in that video game. And yeah, if there's an opportunity for Wilder to let his hands go a bit, then he can do that. He's had a tune up in a sense against a guy that just let him kind of tee off and he got a kind of weak wit stoppage.
I think he was in the servant over in the States. And yeah, I think the guy was just there to fall over basically. Yeah, it's possible. And if Wilder just needs to offset whatever mushrooms he was smoking, just get on the coke for a couple of weeks before the fight and get angry, get on the fucking skull.
That's what he needs to do, get on the stellar. Because he's a skinny fucker anyway, and he does have to make way, he needs to get on the stellar and get angry. And then we might have a fight with him in Chasora. Do you know what the perfect cleaning partner for?
Oh, Joseph Carter. Get on the bag. Oh, good. Yeah, definitely.
Get a bit of spite. A bit of anger needs to get a bit angry. And another thing at Heavyweight John was Fury Mac Moodove, which there was all sorts of stuff being bounced around. There was rumors of Fury Mac Moodove.
There was rumors of Fury Andy Rooies. There was rumors of Usek Andy Rooies. But Fury Mac Moodove has been announced. But it's on Netflix, John.
And it makes me think he's perhaps now a promotional free agent. It certainly appears that way. The first one is still trying to attach himself to in any way, shape or reform. But I do think he's probably a promotional free agent.
And I don't want to hit that fight. I think it has come back. It's fine. Yeah, it is.
It's absolutely fine. I've got no issue with it. I think Mac Moodove should empty the tank for three rounds and see what happens. But yeah, I've got no issue with it.
He's been out for four years. He's been out for 14 months. Fury. He's barely been he boxed the December of 2024.
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That MDM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Look forward in your change. Yeah, so it's going to be not even 18 months by then. But yeah, I think it's absolutely fine for Fury.
I suspect Fury will win. I suspect it'll probably get the stoppage as well, just because Mac Moodove will eventually fall apart. But I think Mac Moodove will make an interest in for a couple of rounds, John. We'll see what fuel he's got left.
What do you think? Yeah, I agree with the company. I think it's one of these Mac Moodove if he's got a shot it is early. It is taste and see how committed to beauty is.
Has he been living the life? Just empty the tank early doors because Mac Moodove will likely fall apart, well, mentally owned by the pressure of beauty if he hasn't managed to be a significant danger in that point. But yeah, absolutely fine for a comeback. Yeah, what do you think it does now?
Because he seems to be running out of a opponent. Essentially, Joshua is getting over the personal tragedy he's had in his life. He's already beat him twice. He doesn't seem to be kind of an appetite for a third fight for...
I'm not going to call it rubber match because that's incorrect, John. Don't let me do that again. Yeah, he's not going to fight Fury again. He's not going to fight Joshua again.
He's not going to fight to bar again. Well, actually, do you want to fight in Zhang? I think that's a good comeback fight for Du Bois. What do you think?
I think that's a dangerous fight. Oh, you do. I think Zhang is deceptively quick. He's going to take away a lot of Du Bois's physical advantages.
I think that's a tricky, tricky fight. To be fair to Du Bois is never wanted an easy ride as he's always going to take the tough fights. And perhaps they think Zhang is in his sport. He's now comfortably in his sport.
He's ready to go. And he's obviously coming off the fight with Kabalya when losing that. And he hasn't that was a while ago. I'm not sure when he likes box Zhang.
So maybe they think he's made to order for him. But yeah, I know what you mean. It is tough. What do you fancy, Zhang?
Is it more just an element of all this could be dangerous? At the minute, it's dangerous having to need a definitive pick. I'll see if both are looking closer to the timing. We haven't laid eyes on Zhang in ages.
He could be 24 so long for a later. He could have just been a long-tooth with a and be absolutely massive. So I'll see if they're both looking closer to the timing. But it's a fight that seems dangerous.
I think as you said, you have to be in sport on the building. They're getting at the right time. When about the case, wasn't to wait and see. But as for what is Usek going to do next, what is the only thing Usek does?
I have your way. It's Kabalya, isn't it? Or I want to speak at the game of Waudley. It's them too.
Because all he ever does is he beats up English. Yeah, it's what he's best at. It's what he's best at. If the Scots could produce a heavy weight, it knocked them out as well.
But they can't. No, he's one of us. I'm convinced that he's a great-grandfather. But I've got off there something.
Macuetik. Macuetik. Do you have any words of the English more than the Scots? Macuetik.
Yep. Yep. Who's that guy? My guy.
Be up Kevin Mitchell. He just loves trash-ducking Englishman as well. I can't remember his name. Michael Ketchum.
No, from Venezuela. Oh, it's not going to be in Arrez. Oh, hey, in Arrez. He loved beating up in Englishman as well.
And I'm with it. I'm absolutely fine. Those guys tend to be my favourite fighters. You know, when someone comes over and punches up English, that's absolutely fine with me.
I'm 33% Welsh anyway. According to that's how I feel when an Englishman loses when they win. I've got the fucking George's flag. Yeah, I think it's probably Wardley, isn't it?
Just because there's no one else for him really. It's Wardley. It's Cabayel. I'm kind of particularly interested in Cabayel, but he might want to go.
I'm just beating it up heavyweight for the third time. And that would be a particularly easy night's work from I suspect Wardley. Yeah. So yeah, maybe you'll do that.
We'll talk about Andrew Ruiz as well. But yeah, Andrew Ruiz has always talked more about having fights than actually having them. So I suspect that one's not happening. He just- Hey, when did he last fight Andrew Ruiz?
Was it the Lewis or Teesfite? One of the closest decision I think in the end. Was it the Miller fight? Oh, did he fight Miller?
Yeah. Yeah, that's not like- Wait, let's go. I don't even remember. I don't even remember them fighting.
Andy Ruiz, the Miller fight was August 24th. So let's see, has he fought since no- So when George Ease the Miller. And all teases in 2022, then he had a two-year break of Fort Miller in 2024, August, where 18 months later, and he hasn't boxed yet. That's not happening.
He must have got paid so well for those Joshua fights that it just doesn't need to anymore. Fair play, fair fucks to him. Yeah, I think you're right. I think he's going to fight Wardley or he's going to fight Caball but probably Wardley.
It's yeah. All right, then, mate. Was there anything else? Yeah, we should briefly touch on the fact that we've spent a good chunk of this.
Probably have this podcast talking about George Kelly, where and arguably we've got a new man in the division in Zander Zas who fight the WBOB belts last night by putting out that spell. Did he? Did he? Was that- Was it on the Shores Eameson show?
No, it was on the top ranked show in Puerto Rico. It was- I'm not the one. Fucking- It was on Quest Red or something. It was on YouTube because the top ranked was good.
No fucking YouTube. It got the TV. It got the notification on YouTube. Oh my days.