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Get your quote at www.someth.ca. Switch, save, simple, sonnet. Very strange. Episode 253 of Below the Bell, it's not again, take two.
Take two. Told myself, is John there or not? Turn a piece there. I have your tell.
Could you hear me a minute ago? I could hear you a minute ago and then it all dropped out when we disappeared and it was showing like zero percent uploaded and the whole thing was rather strange. It was very strange. I recorded like 10 minutes on my own and then you kind of joined and then I've pinged back to the tab and this is another podcast for you guys.
But I'm too much on a skip for any seconds. And then suddenly the bit my mic that was showing is being muted. So I thought fuck, I've been recording and talking to myself but muted the whole time. 10 minutes of disworking silence at the start.
But I would have worked out in post as they say in the biz. I'm going to start off, which I know you don't have much time. Can you tell today? Episode 253 of Below the Bell.
Strong start. Strong start. There's so much there. Honestly, mate, there's so much going on.
Like since the weekend, like so much has gone on, you've got Lee Woodard, Josh Warren, and Ryan Garcia got a robbery against Mario Bariros, who should always leave his championship. Fucking one wide one, the fuck up. Frank Warren made with a pack out too. Just like so much going on.
And then today, Katie Taylor said she's going to have one more fight and then she's going to retire. And then I went on Reddit like I do and people are like, oh, she's the great. She's the real girl, not Clarissa and da da da da da da. That shit, right?
And I thought to myself, and I'm going to start this off of a random question that you have no time to prepare for as a tradition. Do you think like her record is propped up by a featherweight in Amanda Serrano and a gift in the second fight? No, not this light. No, no, it's not.
Yeah. Let's go. The deepest resume of any of the elite female fighters in terms of fighters like Delphine Persun, Tasha Jonas. These are all quality fighters.
You can argue that she's got life and death with all these quality fighters. Yeah. But they are a quality fighters nonetheless. Yeah.
Jessica McCask will fight that she won handily. There's just she's been fighting in the ranked away class with an abundance of quality opposition, which Clarissa Shields just hasn't. So if you go on the eye test, I've got no issue with people believing that shields but on resummee, I think it's Taylor convincingly and there was no gift in the second fight. I thought she won the second.
I thought Serrano won the second fight. He had some Marquez Pacquiao free vibes for me. And to be fair and to be fair, people in red were like, why are you making this about Croatia shields? And I think they're absolutely right.
But we spoke like before, we did the better, greater episode, didn't we? And we were both kind of in agreement that we felt that shields was better. Eye test, like you said, was better. I think a better box and a better fighter.
And even just at the weekend, she obviously for the weekend, she makes it look to part of the expression, make it look like men versus boys. She's just fucking levels above everybody in and around her weight class. Like there's no one close to her. And that's not her fault.
She's just too big. She's too big for everybody else. Whereas Taylor has had the opportunities and she's got the wins, right? The Jessica McCaskill one is a win that kind of aged really well, right?
She won. But you're at 140. I think she took the belt off at 140 and then McCaskill ended up going up to 147. And being breakouts for the 147 on the spute titles, isn't she?
So yeah, it's a fair point. I think I was, yeah, it was the four had a sort of, is it kind of popped up by Serrano? But I think you're right. I think you're all right.
I will stand slightly corrected, not so much. That's the point as you've ever come to backing down. Something like that. It's so, am I still there?
I just look like it's a car for a second. Sorry. Weird. It's my weird.
Yeah, I don't know what's happening with me at the minute, mate. I'm not, I'm being a bit, not my usual self, I think. Is it, I don't know if I have to time. Is there anything that out of wood, warrington, Garcia, and the gift, kind of Ben, Frank Borenso in his juginess, move back out to, is there anything in there that you're desperate to talk about?
I can charge him and absolutely, and I think, you know, it's all good stuff. It's all stuff that needs to be spoken about. Pick something and jump in. Swore.
I'm not, I'm going to actually ignore the fight. Let's talk about the nonsense. Like a nonsense. Talk about the nonsense.
How did you feel about kind of been signing with Zufa? Conflicted. Yeah, because it's like, like, I already heard it's not the worst person you know, but he's a bit honest. Like to see him suffering away is quite funny.
But the person that's made him suffer is the worst person you know, and he signed with the other worst people you know. And so it was like, oh, I'm kind of on any side. But I'm kind of not like it was weird. It was a strange feeling, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was a difficult one. But I'm sure there'll be a lot of people listening right now who have now got their peak heat watch in Konirvan on a show promoted by Dana White, funded by his consciousness. Yeah, it's going to be some people's 10 at a 10, he watch. Yeah.
Yeah. That is that it's got because like, quantum pin hate, which is pretty easy anyway. Like you just I just like hating on him because he's a drug sheet and was barefaced lying about it. And yeah, and so that was enough for me.
But now it's got levels. It's got layers now. He's saying Dana White, he's like, he's just fucking grim and his taking this and that whole thing that's going on. So yeah, that was it was a strange one.
It was a strange about you're right. We now have his nail the fight that everybody's going to hate. Everybody's going to hate him now before. Actually, after the second after the second you bank fight, it felt like the time to turn on him a bit that people were warming to him a bit.
And like, because you bank is a kind of a marmite character anyway, that I think people were warming too many put up such a good performance in the first fight against and albeit weight drain slightly shot because you back. But he put in a good performance against the guy and that should be good at him. And then he's just gone and just just when he's thinking, all right, he's into what in the wrestling turn they call it a tweener. Someone's not quite a baby facing, not quite a heel.
They're kind of in the middle. And he's just gone there. He's hit Jim Ross with a steel chair in the back and he's just gone full heel again. Like he takes, he's just gone right back again.
He hasn't he's got no interest in being liked at all. He just wants to get paid, doesn't he, John? He does. But did you see Josh Taylor's conspiracy?
I don't think the one that's, uh, come to you. Oh, no, I saw the chem trials, but I did. I did see he basically thinks that he's going to go there for one fight. And this is all kind of again, a pro wrestling style ruse.
Yeah, that's essentially the crux of Josh Taylor's argument, which I think he subsequently deleted. Yeah, basically this is a way to get maximum money, payback, whatever he owns any and then return to the open arms of any her. And it is a it's a I don't think I believe that. Um, but it's a great one.
It is a great, but to sign a one fight deal with John is really weird. It is a bit odd, isn't it? It's it's it's a bit odd. Um, you believe that or not?
No, I think he is being used. Yeah. Yeah. I think that number one is a dirty power move number two.
They are going to feed him to whoever they have got aligned because he's got high profile. You've got the likes of sure. Stevenson calling him out. He is the easy money fight for everybody at the minute.
They're all calling him out. They will pick somebody to feed him to apparently he can fight on Zufa shows, re-adseason shows and the ring promoted cards. So there's options there for him. They'll feed him to Garcia Stevenson, whoever it may be.
And then send him back to Eddie, having been shown up is sort of my theory. Yeah. Um, I need Chris. I need Chris Williamson to come up to you.
Understands all this suing malarkey, all this kind of legal. Is the legal expert? He knows he's the the bloat about official legal expert. I don't know if he has any sort of qualifications at all, or he just really enjoys reading lawsuits because he does.
He will read every letter of lawsuits and it's but it makes me think about kind of this Frank Warren suing his turkeyness and Zufa and all that. How do you think kind of like the future of boxing now kind of looks because it's there obviously and actually Zufa, it kind of feels like they're doing the PBC kind of thing where they're signing up to like loads of fighters. And there's a few ex PBC names on there as well that I noticed, like Charles Martin and people at Campo on there. Um, like they're, they're, do you think that's what they're going for?
They're going for like a PBC type model, but with more money. Yeah, like because the PBC model was a largely failed attempt being the UFC of boxing. Remember all the rumors from many of the long gear that PBC were going to have been the belts and start PBC belts. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's, it's the attempt to be the UFC of boxing. I think his turkeyness has used Eddie and Frank. They're no longer useful.
He has now got his promoter of choice that they've got. She are holding in and they're going to go forward and tie and mop up. Absolutely. Everybody.
This is the warning shot across the bow. It's what it's not quite civil war. It's what we have almost like a, we've always been to walk for a long time about Cold War. So like top rank and PBC was the Cold War, wasn't it?
Around May we have a Pacquiao one times it was the Cold War boxing. They don't work together. They don't even really acknowledge each other. It was the Cold War of boxing.
This is a hot war. This is a real war, you know, where they're suing each other. They're poaching fighters. It's all kind of going on.
And then now his turkeyness is using Ring magazine, his, his kind of propaganda arm to write stories about Frank Warren. Now he's suing them, but you notice something in the release from Ring magazine today about that. Did you notice something didn't you about that? I did in the Ring magazine tweet where they said that the tickets for Du Bois are wardly selling purely.
Yeah, they don't go on sale until Friday and it's Wednesday. So you're right, they've sold absolutely zero tickets because they're not on fucking sale. Like, factually correct. It's not selling well because they're not on sale.
They're not on sale. Zero tickets are sold because there's nothing to sell yet. It's like saying that no one's downloaded this podcast yet. Yeah, because it's not fucking out.
It's not out yet. Mental, just, yeah, but I imagine they just plunk some stuff into AI and spout that out. I hate to be one of those boxing journals that has, you know, secured the bag and fair play to him because quite a lot of reputable boxing journals kind of went over to Ring magazine and now they're writing shit like that. It's propaganda in every kind of form really, isn't it?
It really is. Yeah, it feels like we've got a real war now, but I suspect that kind of the old guard, her and Warren and the sanctioning bodies will kind of group up and then Zufa will do their own thing, but they'll keep trying to poach fires and they'll probably be successful in poaching fires. I think if anyone's going to go over to that Zufa side, it'll be the WBC, wouldn't it? Because they never tried to get involved.
How do you think, how do you think the sanction bodies will sit in this kind of not so cold war? I think Zufa have said there's stall out. Eventually, they want to get rid of them and have the Zufa built as sort of an internal title and then only recognize the Ring magazine belt, which they also control. Yes.
Yes. That's why Oppa-Tai, like Ben might be the flashy signing, but Oppa-Tai is arguably the most important for their great agenda if they can get the likes of B-B-O, U-Sick, other Ring magazine champions over there and show that they've got the quote unquote legitimate world champion. They'll then discredit whoever is fighting for the alphabet belts because to those who believe in the importance. Frozen lasagna, medium power, 15 minutes.
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Come on, wait, 653-600, August 6th, 30.C. It's a lineage. That is the modern representation of the lineal title, at least that's what it's reported to be. It's not really, first versus third, it's all may seem so complicated, but I'm not going to waste the time I've gotten a big long lineal round.
Well, talking about the lineal champion, I'm sorry, maybe everyone's going to defend his lineal title against Mani Pacquiao in September, which I'm fucking little bit about. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I actually don't care, to be honest. It's not a surprise is it. As soon as I don't know if you listen to the last episode on your sick bed, John, where I kept calling Chris, John, I was fucking so embarrassed and just...
Have you, have you thought of the page? I know, I know, I know. I got to do this, I was honest. You usually do and all serious.
I'm bad to be honest. But yeah, it was after the whole lawsuit thing came out, that, that, that, more lawsuits that Chris has been reading, that May River was suing Showtime and Al Heyman and that, if you've missed that, listen to the last episode, I thought he's going to box again. He's going to box Mani Pacquiao. Like it was obvious, it was just obvious because he clearly needs the money, he's clearly skinned.
He spent all his money and Mani Pacquiao was the fight like they were talking about about a year ago. I think that he wants to do an exhibition because he wants to defend his own, but Netflix on that, I don't think Netflix having it anymore, not having exhibitions anymore. I think they'll do the May River twice and one, I think that'll be it. He won't probably won't, maybe some Jake Paul shit, just because Jake Paul's money, but I think that'll be it.
But yeah, what do you think about that whole announcement? So any surprise at all? No, like as you say, it was abundantly clear once the articles came out about Floyd's financial situation, this was inevitability. You know, particularly even more so with Garcia beating Barrios.
Yeah. Yeah. Barrios had won, there was a chance that Mani might have pushed for rematch to their first, to have a legitimate world title in the line before rematch with Floyd to maximize money, but I don't think Mani wants to be fighting a young, fast, occasionally good, well, or wait, Barrios was perfect. The other options are too big, too young, too fast, too strong.
So fighting role Man Floyd makes sense for both of them. That's the sad reality, like, for as much as I felt that Floyd's fan base really overhiked his achievements. I still appreciated what he did and I liked the fact that he got unscathed, undefeaten, left at the right time. It's sad to see him come back, but I'm still going to call him Pretty Bill Floyd.
It's a great name. It's a great name to take pretty boy and turn into pretty broke is that's nice. That's good going. That's good going.
Yeah, yeah, it is sad because we've seen guys like Kazagi, Lennox, Lewis, Sugar Ray Leonard, to leave, Lennox went out on his back, but he went out with his faculties and went out with all of his money. Whereas Lewis retired as World Heavyweight Champion, Lin-Yol, and WPC as well. Obviously, maybe ever retired as, you know, welterweight. I think he was Ring Magazine, Light Midaway, and welterweight at the same time, under 50 and loads of money, called by.
He's clearly just blown through with the money, but he's a young kid and a young kid coming up and his male role model is a Uncle Roger on his dad and no wonder he can keep hold of the money. He's just fucking dead to be honest. Fuck it, you can't help you blow through that much money. It's just mental.
He must have made half a billion pounds in his career and he's fucking done a lot. It's mental, but you know, it is what it is. These things kind of happen. I know you've got to go in a minute, mate.
What do you think about Wood Warrenson? Oh, fucking hell, that was a tough watch. You were a tough one, wasn't it? I got bored.
I feel almost like getting bored. Yeah, I just, I love fights between two shot fighters. I know you do. They're always hoping that the stars align and they're both equally shot.
Their legs are gone. And they're forced to just stand there and smash the granny out of one another. When it works well, it works really well. But what often they're not what you find is one is more shot than the other.
And that's what happened in the weekend. It reminded me of Brück-Kanden a lot of ways. Right. Everybody was like, Brück-Klix, amazing.
He should come back and fight for world titles. No, just Amir looked that bad. Yeah. And I think that that was the reality of what we've seen there.
That wasn't some leewood masterclass. It was, Warrington had nothing left. It was interesting to see Wood fighting in a more Ingle-Gim style. Something that he hasn't really done.
Yeah. He had the job and control distance and things under Vendy-Vison, but not with the gloves at all, not predominantly fighting as a South Pole. So that was a nice wee nod to the start of this career. Like, apart from that, it was just shit.
I think the last time we saw Dr. Warrington look anything like Dr. Warrington was their first fight, was what you associate Dr. Warrington with is like high energy.
It's a bit. No? Well, it's kind of head butts and then throw flurries. And then, but he doesn't hit hard, but he kind of outworks you.
Where is he? Doesn't he work, Peter? No, he doesn't. He doesn't.
He doesn't. It's a myth. Like, you know why he punched out? He's a bit of a controller.
But there was an interesting time that after their fight, Kid Galahad was rated something like 30 places higher than Josh Warrington. There's a number of punches throwing per fight that Comfy Box had observed. And he's seen as an upward angle fighter who is a counter-puncher. It doesn't throw many shots.
And Josh has seen his all action. Josh Warrington fights and spurts. He comes out past it at the start of the round. He head butts.
He puts his, he pushes you around the back of the head. And then he has a nice bloody to go the right. He's not this all action pressure fighter. And everybody goes, he was known for his all action.
Show me one fight. He built a build that he went flat out. He doesn't do it. He's not that guy.
He fights in a small shell and he's hard to hit clean. And then he explodes and lets his punches go. So what's happened to him then? Like, because to me, looking at it, it's just the energy's gone.
You sort of get an idea, Golovkin actually, towards the end. It was he just didn't have the energy to throw in combinations anymore. It's not like the chin went or the power's gone. He just doesn't have the energy.
He doesn't have the, he can't commit to shots anymore. He can't commit to a combination anymore. He can only do one or two. What happened to Josh Warrington?
The timing is speed lifting. He can still see the shots. He can still see what he wants to do. But that first punch to land to start a combination.
Maybe doesn't land. Yeah. Yeah. It's getting started.
And then after, because he can't get started, he can't finish. We've all been there, mate. At every time it's the first time it's where this has never happened before. It's never happened to me before, babe.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man. She's already in the Uber.
Like, she's gone. She's surprised at that. No. I had a wee inkling that Bill Alfelas might get the job done.
Yeah. What was that? Because he is awkward. He is tricky.
He was a highly skilled amateur. He was, they were keen to take him on Team GB to the Olympics. But of course, he didn't have a passport. Frank Warren tried to sign him for like 1.5 million contract.
Barry McWiggins tried to sign him for a cyclone for a two million pound contract. But it looked as if his career had slipped away when none of these things got resolved. He was going to go in his therapies, suffered an early career loss. And he looked good, particularly in the rematch against Boston.
But I was concerned in the early rounds. He was loading up. He was looking for one big shot and I might fall in love with his own power. But from about round five onwards, he started just reducing the power, letting his hands flow.
Be awkward, chipping away. I think Davis was also incredibly tight at the weight. He feel it horribly in the second half. That's a yeah.
But what do you think of the commentary? Because when they were gushing about Ishmael Davis, the early rounds. I felt he was cheating a lot of them. Yeah.
I think it might have had him four-year-old. He gave him the first round or the other way round. And yeah, it felt like that. They were like, Oh, Davis is just that level above.
He's done it at the high level. I was just saying, not really. I thought, I could see why they thought he was nicking the rounds. But he wasn't really doing anything.
He wasn't doing anything to make. Because you look at the experience they've got at the pro level. Yes, whereas as a lead amateur. But better amateur record than Davis.
But I just remember looking at it and going, there's not a lot here. But it was really close in the end on the cards. But obviously the guys at Ringside and the guys on Consulate, oh, it's white. It's white for Wazz.
But I actually got why it was close. I thought in that 12th round where, yeah, for as pretty much going in the bank. Or so he felt. I thought to myself, all that fucking around he does.
All that kind of dipping his head in and looking. I thought, I just don't like that shit, man. I just don't like it. It is a bit reformed.
But they don't. And all that. I just thought they don't like it. And I can see why it was close.
I thought he won. I thought he won handily. But yeah, in that 12th round I thought, mate, you ain't a ticket seller. He's the champion.
And he did. He started well. And stop fucking around and put a stamp on it and win the fight. Did you feel like that?
Was that me? No, I completely understand your point. I didn't think that he was necessarily walking it. And as you say, he was doing things that judges don't tend to like.
But I'm going to make a prediction on the road map for Bill Alphalaz. Nice. I reckon they will put Bill Alphalaz on the undercard or the next Josh Kelly fight. I guess two.
David, I've had a decision. You think he looks good in that? Because M&S Eans kind of fall off a cliff a bit. A little bit.
But it'll be the guy that Josh Kelly never rematched. There's a possibility with seven extra pounds on him. I don't know what way M&S Eans fighting at now. But what you think they could look to do a rematch?
I think that they put in for was and I don't even see it. And whoever wins gets Kelly. Yes, yes. And they can sell the whole.
Yeah. Because Kelly, you know, because it was looking like a boots N.S. It was looking like that. He's out there today talking about Ryan Garcia.
You're the champion mate. You don't go there big in for fights. Don't do it. It's embarrassing.
You'll just be chasing you. But he's out there. I get it. It's a huge money fight for him.
Ryan, as the Reddit kids like to call him. Fuck it. I don't know why. Because I say Floyd all the time.
I get that. But yeah, it's a little embarrassing in fight when world champions start the guy chasing people. Like it's yeah, I find it a little embarrassing. But yeah, I could see that.
I could see that because yeah, 154. There's not a 154 domestically for Josh Kelly to do a stadium. Maybe not a stadium like that. You know, a big arena up north if you did something in Manchester, maybe to do whatever the Manchester Arena is called now.
Is it a co-op now? It's a couple of people. No, co-op is Manchester. That's the one that the Etihad people built.
And at the Man City guys built. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, co-op is that I think whatever the MEN arena is now, what's coming out. I don't know what it's called.
If you've got to go, tell me when you've got to go otherwise, I'm just going to take advantage of you and just keep you. Right. I am going to have to make sure that it's been a pleasure as always, mate. All right.
Talk to you soon. Take care. Take care. So John's leaving us.
It is. This is like take two of this actually. So actually today is the 10th birthday of Below the Bell. 10 years ago today, we released the first episode of Below the Bell.
It was called Animal Star of Golds because we love Animal so much. And we were talking about having to do a washing up, I think. And we would happily do it. I think that was the...
I'm too scared to go back and listen to it. It's still on there. It's still on all the podcast apps if you ever wanted to listen to it. I'm terrified of listening to it just because God knows what we said.
Nothing offensive because I don't think so. But yeah, it was before Frampton, quick one. It was before Frampton, quick one. And I picked...
I was the only one that picked Frampton. Not because I was particularly smart. I just think it was too pickheaded to listen to the ITK that had come out. Yeah, that had come out.
So we got some ITK, just before we started recording, the ITK meaning in the know for people that don't know what that means. But we got some ITK that Frampton was tight the way and he was looking terrible and sparring. And so all the guys kind of are going to win. And I was just too pickheaded because I loved Carfranton.
I was like, no, Carfranton's going to win. I was lucky. I flipped it basically that Camp Frampton ended up winning. But it's funny, looking back 10 years later, the boxing landscape and kind of how it looks.
Like how it looks now. 10 years ago, Britain had multiple world champions. I remember one of the early episodes we had 13 world champions. I remember being sat in the pub.
Next to Ball Street, which is very recorded. Ball Street, Shoojo's in Victoria. And looking at the list of the 13 world champions sat there in the pub with Flav and T and Alex. And all these world champions, Antony Crawler was one of them.
Scott Quig, obviously Karl Franson at the time. Tony Bell, you might have been as well. Can't really remember. But I'm looking at it.
And now we've got a few. We've got a few. We've obviously got Fabio Wardly. Wardly Du Bois.
I like that fight. I do like that fight. Yeah, we've got a few. All of these world champions are now.
He was our only male world champion for a bit. So yeah, it was weird to see the landscape now. Again, talking about Cold War. It was it was Matra, Matra, Matra, and then you had Queensbury, Frank, one promotions.
Box Nation existed back then. Box Nation doesn't exist now. Or there's a YouTube channel for Box Nation, but the channel itself, I don't think exists anymore. Or not, I know what I don't think he does.
And then you had Eddie Hearn. He had the Sky Contract. He gave a Sclusive Sky Contract because obviously he's dead. He did the Dart, so we got that, right?
I need to be fed to him. He did an excellent job with it. And yeah, Frank, one was there and then he did a bit of Channel Five and maybe some Premier Sports. McKinney See doing bits.
And here we are kind of 10 years later. Everything's on to Zone on a streaming app, which obviously, streaming existed back then, Netflix and stuff like that. But not to the extent it is now where streaming is everything, where TV is dominated by streaming services now. Boxing, more than most, is dominated by a streaming service.
You wouldn't have thought you would not have thought it. Although there is kind of rumors now that Sky getting back into boxing. They've already signed MVP. They've signed Jake Paul promotion.
So they're going to get all those, all that we've been boxing is all going to be on Sky now. It's smart because it's not going to cost them the Earth, because women's boxing generally isn't that expensive and doesn't cost the Earth. And then it looks like they're going to sign Zufa as well, that they're going to get Dana White and his Turkey and his Turkey and they're going to sign that promotional company as well. So while they're, you know, they're on the outs of boxing, they were kind of giving it up, they're going straight back in two-footed, like Sky Sports.
And to be attached to Sky Sports, to be attached to Premier League Football was a big thing for sports. Sports fans in this country, most of them are Premier League football teams are at least watching Premier League football. But even though they support a football league team or a non league team, they will still watch Premier League football and have boxing attached to that network, Sky Sports. And everything else that comes with it is big for boxing, it's big for those promotional entities.
What was interesting that kind of everybody wants to fight Ryan Garcia, because they see it's like, it's interesting because he, everybody went to fight Mario Barrios because he was seen as the shit. Well, it's a weight champion. And he had the WPC belt, which has got all the prestige and everything else. Being seen as the shit's world's weight champion has transferred from Mario Barrios to Ryan Garcia.
But fair play to Garcia, I did think he'd beat him just because I still don't think he's very good. And I didn't see what he'd done at World Tour. And it kind of came true because a lot of people said, well, Garcia's going to knock him out and he didn't. And he dropped, he dropped Barrios, but he didn't, he didn't look like he was going to knock him out.
But he won't ever be round and stuck in the bank pretty much. Maybe he maybe give one or two to Barrios, but that's it really. He won every round for Garcia. He won comfortably fair play to him.
But it is like the shit world's weight champion has changed. Or is it really, it's not really a Meri? It's really Meri beat Garcia. So it has it's translated to Ryan Garcia.
And now everybody's going to want to fight him now because they'll see it as an easy, well-titled and an easy payday. We saw it with Josh Kelly. Josh Kelly trying to call him out and trying to fight him. Connor Ben will want to fight him.
I think he's up there mandatory wise. He's going to be up there in a mandatory position for Ryan Garcia. Yeah. And then she calls Stevenson, who fair play to Ryan Garcia.
She calls Stevenson now. She calls Stevenson, will beat the shit out. Ryan Garcia, I don't think it'll be close at all. She calls Stevenson as one of the best fighters in the world.
He's top five, powerful, best fighters in the world. He's that good. There's obviously the Devin Haney rematch as well. But yeah, that's still an interesting fighter.
Garcia won the first time, but he basically been off the weight and that's an advantage. And he was on juice. And he was banned for it. So I can't get trouble for saying that.
He was on juice. So yeah, that's if he's clean and he does the weight, which I suspect he will be able to do the weight. And Haney's up. So he's got the WBO.
He's got the WBO. I'm pretty sure he's got the WBO. Well, so now that's a unification. So you could see that next, actually.
You could see Garcia Haney too. Because it's a big fight. There's a lot of controversy around it. And you've got two world titles online at that.
Now thinking about it, that makes an absolute sense. And then you could do it. It's not a bad way because there's a possibility that she can get on his bike and kind of get on his bike and gets for it, really. Yeah, it just gets for it.
I think maybe that that will do. I think that will do. There's not really a lot going on. I was hoping one of the other boys would dial in.
But I don't think it's going to happen. I did put it on him right over the last minute. So dial in if he wants to. And they haven't.
That's absolutely fine. They will have lives and wives and everything else. But shout out to Clerks for a show. She was great the other night.
She's like I said, it's an adverse voice. Women versus girls. She makes them all like shit. She makes them all like fucking club fighters.
She's that's good. She doesn't have the opponents. She was exceptional the other night. She won every round.
And deservedly so. And got out there. Undisputed heavyweight champion. So weird talking about women and heavyweight titles.
It's odd because most of the top fights are smaller divisions and heavyweight divisions. It's not ever really going. John made a good point about Alexander Rusek. If he lands on Zufa, if he ends up signing with his techiness, he wasn't doing re-ad season stuff anymore.
That was what came out. It wasn't really going to do re-ad season stuff. And I kind of got the feeling that he was going to try and do the American market. That he was kind of jumping into that.
Obviously, Andy Rusek signed with Zufa now. It'll be interesting if Alexander Rusek signs with them. Or if he just kind of does the American thing, goes to Metro, more Queensbury or even PPC and tries to fight an American fighter. But it's gone very, very quiet with him actually.
There was a million rumours about Alexander Rusek the other week. He was fighting Fury again. He was fighting Andy Rusek again. He was fighting Dion Zufa.
And they've all just quietly kind of gone away these rumours. And now with Wardly fighting Dubois, he's not going to fight Gassia because he's Russian. Just don't think you'll fight him. There's Caballio.
You could do the Caballio fight. It could be a Queensbury card. I don't know where you do it though. Do you do it in Germany?
I suppose you'd have to do it in Germany, don't you? Because Caballio is such a good ticket seller over there. Or do you think have the homecoming? I suppose the Caballio fight's there.
He's a Queensbury fighter, Caballio. So it's not going to get propped up by the Saudi money. He's still going to make a very good person, but he's not going to get the mental person that he's has been getting with his turkey. I think boxing's going to change a bit now.
We had this kind of run where it was like, Cabes, where everybody was friends and all the promoters were friends and Eddie and Frank Warren. Not quite holding hands, but they were holding hands with his turkey, and yes, and everybody was friends. And in one fell swoop, boxing's changed all over again. You've got Dana White and his turkey, and they've set this all out there signing fighters from other promoters.
They're breaching contracts or recording Frank Warren, they're breaching contracts. I have no idea if they are or not. And now it's like, okay, we'll bet so off it's back to War again. So it's going to be interesting what happens with boxing.
It's going to be interesting what happens with the heavyweight division. And all the other divisions as well. But you can take a fight in Dublin. She goes down to our camera again.
My Kayla Meyer, maybe she's around. It's another belt maybe. I think she's at 154 now. She's not going to go that high.
She could go to a welter. I think she's going to have a gimme. I think Kayla's going to have a gimme. And you know what?
You could argue that she's earned it right. She's earned the right. I think. Look at that.
I'm talking to myself and somebody's dialed in. Hello, mate. There's a lot going on there. Where are you?
I'm at home. Your sound is very odd. You sound like you're by the sea. It's just the shit that's over.
So I was getting ready to wrap it up. But I'm going to do the same thing for his liquidity of people that don't know. Happy anniversary, motherfucker. Thank you, sir.
Happy 10th birthday to blow the belt. Yeah, I know it's amazing. I was just saying a minute ago that before episode one, we titled it, Anvil from Mary Golds. It was before just to pay homage to a wonderful woman, Anvil Fitz, she's an absolute queen.
But it was before Frampton and Quig won. Do you remember hearing all the rumors at the time? Did you hear those rumors at the time that Frampton was basically fucked at the way? Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, it was just. And they won so easily, didn't they? They did. And he was one of those cool fights that didn't really live up to it.
He never got going. Never really got going. But I was happy because I was always a Carl Frampton fan. I was always pleased with him because I just like Carl Frampton.
And he's a guy that's so short. And I'm six foot one and I met him at Groves, shooting off and I was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm six foot one. He's fucking like five foot four or something. I'm a little bit of a little bit of a con.
Yeah, bless him. But he had that kind of weird upwardsed jab. He would jab upwards. And it was a very good jab.
You know, very for someone so sure, you know, very good jab. It was an interesting one. Very good. Very good fighter.
It was a very good fight. I was a big fan. I was an island to see him. I think box Garcia and I went over and watched him.
So I liked him that much. I did the same. I had a running order. I've just deleted it.
I think I can remember most of it. I asked John because John only had 20 minutes or so. Well, basically I'm going to give you the floor what you want to talk about. Obviously this since Saturday, it's been meant or Luke.
It's been, you've had Warrington, Lee would we've kind of covered that. We didn't really cover that. May have a pack of R2, K-Tane is retiring, Frank Corrin, Zufar. All of it.
Is there anything that's kind of burning? It doesn't have to be any of that stuff. It could be something completely different. Is there anything burning that you really want to talk about?
I'm bringing you an exclusive now, through your own anniversary. What is it? What's going on? Because this morning, I saw the Frank Moron Eus.
So I thought, let's see what Frank has to say. Oh, wow. So I messaged him. This is exclusive to you.
His response. What did he say? Two words. No comment.
No comment. No comment. Good old Frank. It's not nice about it.
Good old Frank. I've got a lot of time for him. And you fuck with him at your peril, I think. Not shout Turkey.
He is not quite undefeated in the courtroom. But his record ain't bad. It ain't bad. And he ain't scared of it.
But it's too long something like that, I think. Yeah, it's pretty good. A safer Ontario means more police and prosecutors making sure my card doesn't get stolen. It means building new jails to keep criminals behind bars.
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