EPISODE · Mar 29, 2019 · 28 MIN
Ep 28 - Pay to play: Is outdoor play a class issue?
from The Forest School Podcast · host Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden
In this misty, reflective episode Lewis and Gemma savour a fog-shrouded morning in the woods, admire dew-spangled spider-webs and commiserate over hay fever—before taking on a thorny topic: is outdoor education a right or a privilege? They kick off with the BBC’s recent “walled-playground” story and a thought-provoking blog by Nick Lewis on the hidden costs of outdoor pursuits (DofE kit, waterproofs, etc.). Drawing on personal experience as both a publicly funded Forest School provider and a private endeavour, they explore the tension between universal free access and the realities of running a sustainable service. Along the way they wrestle with questions of social justice, state versus private provision, land availability, and what true equity in outdoor play might look like—before teasing upcoming workshops on creative storytelling and drama at the Somerset Play Forum (June 19) and their Bardic Forest School event (28 April). It’s a candid conversation that holds up a mirror to the movement, urging deeper empathy, political imagination and collective action.⏱ Chapter Timings:00:15 – Fog, dewy spider-webs & hay fever woes00:32 – Morning weather check & nature’s stillness01:06 – Topic intro: outdoors as right or privilege?01:56 – BBC story: gated play area for affluent residents only02:27 – “Poor doors” & social-housing exclusion in new developments03:36 – Nick Lewis’s blog: hidden costs of outdoor adventure (DofE kit, waterproofs)04:47 – Reflecting on middle-class blind spots in outdoor education06:01 – The cumulative burden: kit lists, session fees & family budgets07:06 – Forest School as springboard vs weekly indulgence08:37 – Personal conflict: running both publicly funded & private Forest Schools10:15 – The piano-teacher analogy: paying for specialized expertise11:13 – State-funded early years: could outdoor credits work?12:15 – Land loss, privatisation & shrinking free Green Space13:04 – Political vision: equal outdoor provision in national curriculum?14:32 – Ofsted-registered kindergarten vs self-pay weekend sessions16:02 – The private-public tension: quality, autonomy & sustainability18:38 – Idealistic policy vs current funding realities20:41 – Imagining government subsidies for outdoor learning credits22:19 – Champagne-lemonade, nursery-funding caps & quality trade-offs23:51 – Re-released doc “The Age of Stupid” & climate-change urgency26:03 – Call for listener feedback on accessible outdoor practice27:11 – Upcoming events: Storytelling at Somerset Play Forum (19 June) & Forest School Bardic Day (28 April)🌲 Keywords: outdoor education equity, Forest School funding, play-area exclusion, social justice, DofE kit costs, public vs private provision, land access, early-years credits, story-telling workshops🔖 Hashtags:#OutdoorEducation #ForestSchool #AccessForAll #PlayEquity #StateVsPrivate #SocialJustice #NatureConnection #SomersetPlayForum #AgeOfStupid #StorytellingInNature🌐 More Episodes & Support:Listen & find resources at www.theforestschoolpodcast.comSupport us at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcastFeedback or collab? [email protected]
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In this misty, reflective episode Lewis and Gemma savour a fog-shrouded morning in the woods, admire dew-spangled spider-webs and commiserate over hay fever—before taking on a thorny topic: is outdoor education a right or a privilege? They kick off with the BBC’s recent “walled-playground” story and a thought-provoking blog by Nick Lewis on the hidden costs of outdoor pursuits (DofE kit, waterproofs, etc.). Drawing on personal experience as both a publicly funded Forest School provider and a private endeavour, they explore the tension between universal free access and the realities of running a sustainable service. Along the way they wrestle with questions of social justice, state versus private provision, land availability, and what true equity in outdoor play might look like—before teasing upcoming workshops on creative storytelling and drama at the Somerset Play Forum (June 19) and their Bardic Forest School event (28 April). It’s a candid conversation that holds up a mirror to the movement, urging deeper empathy, political imagination and collective action.⏱ Chapter Timings:00:15 – Fog, dewy spider-webs & hay fever woes00:32 – Morning weather check & nature’s stillness01:06 – Topic intro: outdoors as right or privilege?01:56 – BBC story: gated play area for affluent residents only02:27 – “Poor doors” & social-housing exclusion in new developments03:36 – Nick Lewis’s blog: hidden costs of outdoor adventure (DofE kit, waterproofs)04:47 – Reflecting on middle-class blind spots in outdoor education06:01 – The cumulative burden: kit lists, session fees & family budgets07:06 – Forest School as springboard vs weekly indulgence08:37 – Personal conflict: running both publicly funded & private Forest Schools10:15 – The piano-teacher analogy: paying for specialized expertise11:13 – State-funded early years: could outdoor credits work?12:15 – Land loss, privatisation & shrinking free Green Space13:04 – Political vision: equal outdoor provision in national curriculum?14:32 – Ofsted-registered kindergarten vs self-pay weekend sessions16:02 – The private-public tension: quality, autonomy & sustainability18:38 – Idealistic policy vs current funding realities20:41 – Imagining government subsidies for outdoor learning credits22:19 – Champagne-lemonade, nursery-funding caps & quality trade-offs23:51 – Re-released doc “The Age of Stupid” & climate-change urgency26:03 – Call for listener feedback on accessible outdoor practice27:11 – Upcoming events: Storytelling at Somerset Play Forum (19 June) & Forest School Bardic Day (28 April)🌲 Keywords: outdoor education equity, Forest School funding, play-area exclusion, social justice, DofE kit costs, public vs private provision, land access, early-years credits, story-telling workshops🔖 Hashtags:#OutdoorEducation #ForestSchool #AccessForAll #PlayEquity #StateVsPrivate #SocialJustice #NatureConnection #SomersetPlayForum #AgeOfStupid #StorytellingInNature🌐 More Episodes & Support:Listen & find resources at www.theforestschoolpodcast.comSupport us at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcastFeedback or collab? [email protected]
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