Ep. 30 - Sandboxes and Smile Files with Denise Thijzen | Developers After Dark

Don’t just test live—build smarter with HubSpot Sandboxes. In this episode of Developers After Dark, we sit down with Denise Thijzen, Product Manager at HubSpot, to explore the power of sandboxes, the future of developer experience, and her inspiring journey into product management.From explaining what a sandbox is to breaking down why it’s essential for CRM customization, Denise shows how HubSpot Sandboxes give developers and builders the safe space to experiment, test workflows, and deploy confidently. Whether you’re building custom objects, integrating APIs, or refining workflows, this conversation is packed with insights on how to protect your production environment while still innovating.We also dive into Denise’s career path — from consulting with HubSpot customers to leading product development — and hear her take on mentorship, public speaking, and finding balance as a PM in a fast-moving ecosystem.Resources & LinksHubSpot Sandboxes Overview: https://www.hubspot.com/products/sandboxHubSpot Academy: academy.hubspot.comGuest: Denise Thijzen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deniseth/Hashtags#HubSpotDevelopers #Sandboxes #DeveloperExperience #CRMCutomizationWe aim to incorporate the human element and drive a conversation that is fun, informational, and thought-provoking. You can watch Developers After Dark on the HubSpot developer’s channel or wherever you get your podcasts. Check out the Developers:after Dark website at devsafterdarkpod.comWant to be a guest? Fill out the form 👉 https://share.hsforms.com/2J5me9_v3Rlix21-1LoZWkAbpd9r