Ep 37 - Platform first with Karen Ng | Developers:After Dark

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How do you build an AI ecosystem that actually works? Karen Ng (VP of Product, HubSpot) stops by Developers After Dark to discuss the architecture of modern AI platforms.We explore the shift from "Unstructured" to "Structured" data, how LLMs act as the new operating system for business, and why the definition of "Developer" is expanding to include all "Builders." Karen also shares insights on the tension between "Vibe Coding" and fundamental engineering skills, and gives a candid take on whether AI will replace traditional coding roles.00:00 - Intro & The "AI Contract" 01:45 - The Rise of AI Agents & Ecosystems 04:30 - Unstructured Data: Unlocking the "Pile of Gold" 07:15 - From Blob to Business: Structuring Data for AI 09:10 - Career Reality Check: Will AI Replace Developers? 12:20 - Real Estate Analogy: Tech-Enabled vs. Traditional 14:45 - Defining "The Builder" & The Role of DevRel 18:30 - "Vibe Coding" vs. Software Engineering Principles 23:15 - Parenting Advice for Geeks: C# & Python 27:00 - Outro: Finding Joy & The Flip Phone#hubspot #hubspotdevelopers #aiagents #softwareengineering #unstructureddata #vibecoding #devrel #DevelopersAfterDark

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