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Ep. 49 - Dave Allen Open Workout

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We were live at the open workout for Dave Allen in his preparation for his bout with David Price at The O2 on the 20th July. We got interviews with Allen himself and his trainer Darren Barker, we were also briefly joined by friend of the pod, Scott Hammerton of Matchroom Boxing. Twitter: @BelowTheBelt_ Facebook.com/BTBPod Instagram: belowthebeltpod Please leave reviews for us at >>> http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1087891999 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We were live at the open workout for Dave Allen in his preparation for his bout with David Price at The O2 on the 20th July. We got interviews with Allen himself and his trainer Darren Barker, we were also briefly joined by friend of the pod, Scott Hammerton of Matchroom Boxing. Twitter: @BelowTheBelt_ Facebook.com/BTBPod Instagram: belowthebeltpod Please leave reviews for us at >>> http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1087891999 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Egg farmers of Ontario, get cracking. So today was the open workout for Dave Allen. In preparation for his fight, we have David Price at the O2 Arena on the 20th of July on the unkind of Dylan White versus Oscar Evers. The open workout was down at the Broadway Freeze Gym in Paddington, which is a fantastic gym.

So yeah, spoke to Darren Barker, asked him about getting a trainer's license, the process of that and amongst other things. Also, and then after that, spoke to Dave Allen and asked him some questions about the fight also. So hopefully you enjoy this. And hopefully we do a podcast on the night itself.

Hope to get the two guys together to try and do that on the night itself. And looking forward to it. Thank you very much. Blow the bell.

We'll call it episode 49, the Rocky Masking on our website. And I'm here at 12 by Freeze in Paddington with a former IVF, Midawake Champion in the world, and trainer of Dave Allen. You've got a license now, mate. I have.

It's two weeks old. So yeah, I'm over the moon, if I'm honest. What I said in the previous year, so... Boxing's been good to me.

I've got to travel the world. I've achieved some great things. I've managed to represent my country with medals and performing in major competitions, like the Come Up Came from the Gold Medal and achievements I have as a pro boxer and now I'm a pro coach. And it sets up another journey.

Another sort of... The second part of my career is involved in this sport. So yeah, I'm sort of proud of myself. So you should be.

Yeah, I'm not thinking quite modest that we're talking about myself. I think in this life, you've obviously achieved a lot. I think it's important to enjoy the achievements that we have in this life. And you know, did you have a little shindig after you got the license?

No, it was a real effort and chore, if I'm honest. What is that process like? What do you have to do? For me, I have an interview in front of the Southern area of Council and I know more and it was a formality.

I was in an hour and ten minutes. There, I had one opportunity to go on a course. It just so happens. It was in Motherworld, in Scotland.

And it was the only course that would get me my license at the time of the 20th. So I had a nightmare. I had to drive to Manchester. Part of my car at Manchester.

I set up about 12 a.m. Got some Manchester at four. I got two speeding tickets, which is two speeding tickets. Part up at five a.m.

training up to Motherworld. Then I had to sit in a classroom for a day and a half listening about the rules and regulations that have been a pro coach. But to be honest, I did learn a fair bit and it was beneficial. But then Sunday afternoon at about two o'clock, I had to get on the train back to Manchester.

I get my car right back day. It was an effort. I was parking tickets. You should really expense him today, really.

I was only right. I mean, and if he drove, I would give him the points as well. But he doesn't. So obviously you've, you're in camp now.

We're ten days away. We're ten days away from Dave Allen against Dave Price. David Price. How do you feel?

Camps on. Yeah, perfect. If I'm honest, it's gone really well. It helps having one, not that long ago against Lucas Brown.

We got about two, three weeks off. So it's gone great. Match fit. He's got his eye in.

You know, you hear it with other sports, especially footballers, you know, being match fit, being sharp. He come into this kind of sharps. It's all about maintaining his fitness, which has been quite easy because he's got his eye on the players, if you like. And we've just been able to work on pure tactics, which has been great, which has been ideal.

Nothing's been playing catch up with the fitness. We're ready to go now. It's a huge fight in his career. This is your first official fighter's trainer, but in a sense, it's almost your second fight.

After the Lucas Brown fight, for me as an observer, it almost seemed after that, that the light went off in his head. And he looked at you and he mimicked the body shot. And for me, it was like a kid showing his dad what he did. Did you get the impression as well that that was when the light went off in his head?

No, it was just, if you listen, I know the sport inside out, so you listen. I'm not going to put you wrong. And I think he's like, yeah, listen, then it paid off sort of thing. And he's doing more of it now.

You know, he trusts me. And that's the most important thing. And he understood when I see him in the other thing, he's ever been told how good of a fighter he is, if I'm one. Is there anyone ever told him?

And I've no, no reason to blow smoke up his back. So I think that would be dangerous if I didn't believe it. But the first thing I said in him, I stopped him after two rounds. The first out of the box he did down in and said, you're a very good boxer.

Why haven't you showed that in the ring? Do you think it's a case of like in the parties perhaps not taking himself seriously? I know exactly what it is. It's one is conditioning, obviously.

He's never been in knowing near enough shape or a good enough shape to to to cause anyone really any problem. But it happens with a lot of fighters. Their main asset asset can sometimes become the worst asset. And with Dave Allen, he's got such a great chin.

He's so durable, he's so stronger. In his head, he can wear any one down. And that will only get you so far. So now he understands he has to start boxing more and start showing us something else.

Otherwise, you will just stay at a level. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think David Price is perhaps the tallest man he's for in his career, in his pro career at least. How did you prepare him for that?

I was half-victuring you like Adam Boothman when David Hayport value went with those massive boots on. How did you prepare him for finding something so tall? I think hit what you can. It's not again, not rocket science.

If you're going to struggle, switch the chin. Don't go for it. And that's not really given much away. I think if Dave lands shots around the body or in an area that is within his reach, you'll get a reaction from David Price.

It's only natural to do so. And then you'll start finding the openings a bit more. So you don't have to do anything like standing on a chair or wearing high heels in my opinion. You just do the simple stuff to sort of unlock that puzzle.

And I think he understands the sort of tactic against someone like David Price. Well, I hope so anyway. Just been a waste of time. So looking at the fight now, Dave Allen, he said he said he wouldn't be supposed to go out there inside three rounds really.

Is there a challenge there to kind of rein him in? Is that kind of what is that going to be a challenge? No, not in some ways, yes, in some ways. No, I don't want to blow out that fire that burns within him.

But it's just controlling it in a correct manner to be able to find the correct shots. That's the most difficult part is using his brain and not using that desire or that hunger. You're sort of putting it all together and making a, it's not putting the perfect recipe together. I think if you rely on something too much, you'll come unstuck.

So I want him to still have that desire and that hunger. I don't want him to rely on it and carry it away and do something that character. Well, not that character. Something that I don't want him to do that we've been working on.

So, yes, anything could happen in this fight, other than it go past him rounds in my opinion. I don't see it going past him rounds. I think that is impossible. It's absolutely impossible.

If anyone puts any money on this fight, I'm passing him rounds in. I take the price. It doesn't pass on to the engine for it. No, that's a big thing.

I think he's kicking himself at the way he sort of the back against Cassiele. I think he wanted to let his hands go a bit more. He just didn't. I think he's frustrated at the way to fight Indian.

I think for this, where's the sort of a last round of the last four David Clark? I think he's going to go out there and do what he does. Try and do what he does best. Now he's laying big shots and show everyone how explosive.

If he was to knock out Dave Allen, what a statement that would be. So I think his best shot is to go out early and go for it. But then you leave yourself open and vulnerable. A couple more questions.

I want to ask Dave this later on. Dave hasn't won a pro title in his career so far. Is that an ambition of his or is it more about money? No, it's a business, but it's also a sport.

The great sport in the world and he wants to have left his mark with a title when he retires. Definitely. I'm driving any matter about getting title in the line. I think it's a nice sport.

I think you're going to announce something too. We haven't had it 100% from concrete and confirmed yet. I like there to be a ranking title in the line. But that isn't good enough.

I want more. I understand, boxing, I understand that them belts are relevant and they're useful in getting your fire in the top 10, 15 in a governing body. Therefore, worrying in your voluntary shot one day. But they're only ranking belts.

You can't dine out on being a WBA in a continental champion. You can't. You're better at giving your mouth shut. And for me, I think an area title is more credible than a ranking belt.

To talk about once you finish it, Greg, because you can say I was the champion of such and such area, where it's a ranking belt. You can just say that I'm on this belt. That's another thing. But I want to win.

I want to win or help him win a proper credit one. They're very, it's the best or who knows some sort of world title. You just don't know. I've seen crazier things.

I've seen crazy things trust me. Last question this weekend, we're talking about title, it was British title, British title this weekend. What I'll get much from me on this one. No prediction.

No, but really I just hope it lives up to most scribes impression of the fire. I think it's going to be a brilliant fight. And I'll be watching it. But if I'm deadly honest, I've been so consumed by this fight and I haven't seen a great deal of both.

Yeah, I'll be tuning in. But I couldn't really give you an opinion. All I know is from what I know, I see it as, I'll probably look at the boy I've been favourite. But I couldn't people win.

All right. Well, thank you so much. Cheers mate. Thank you very much.

Cheers. Thank you. Blowbone Association with Boxing Monthly, episode 49. I am with Dave Allen.

Hello mate. How are you? Wonderful. I'm liking the t-shirt mate.

Thank you very much. It's a very old and very bad system. It's quite a fit me again. Which is a part of those in my target.

Good target to have. I'm getting my gimme all rascal gear from my left college for years. So we're 10 days out from your fight with David Price. How are you feeling?

Look fantastic. I'm training more the straight up around that. So I'm in peak physical condition. I'm in equal spirits as you can see.

So everything's going really well? Yeah. You look just watching you downstairs at the media, the workout down there. You look completely zoned in.

You look completely really really focused down there. Do you feel more focused there? Some have done you have a fight? I feel very sharp.

I feel very fit. I feel healthy. I think all the things, when you feel healthy and you're good at yourself, you know for a fact, when I'm hitting the person. You don't actually have to.

So I feel him better. He starts to take his own. He starts to do it. He's not going to do it.

He's going to keep going. He's the master key with the price to concentrate. One round one. But the most important thing in the fight is my concentration.

He's not going to take the last concentration. I've been there for a long time. I was looking earlier on at the bookie zods and you're pretty strong favour. You're like 9-4 on and he's quite wide.

Is that what you mean? Is extra pressure being such a strong favour? No, because I know for a fact David Price, I feel it'll break his up. And then interesting fact yeah.

I was telling him, I mean David was with the European game in 2004. In 2004, I was in year 7 at school. And he was with the European games. When David Price won his Olympic bronze medal, I was in year 11.

So he loses to me. I know he can pick the parrots, but he's got even points in my life. Before I had my first time in the fight, he was in British heavyweight champion. I look at my best list.

He loses to me. This breaks his heart. I don't know if the fact it does. So the pressure is not on me.

I'm 27. I've been beat for a time. I've come back every time. I'm like I'm like a former.

I'm like a really bad STI. I ain't going anywhere. I'm just kicking them. I've always a little bit.

Boom. You in the shower? I'm there. What STI would you describe yourself as a fire?

Eids. I'm going to get in. I'll kill you. No, no.

Who did that out? Probably, probably, don't worry. I'm making a mess here. But not that one.

I won't kill you. Those giggles there. That's Scott Hamilton from Metroinboxing. Welcome back.

How are you mate? You know what I mean? I was just throwing your sentence. You should have.

We'll come back to that. I was just looking earlier on at your record. Is David Price the toilet? Is he the toilet?

Is he the toilet you've ever faced as a pro? I think they've had a similar such a... It's 25. We'll take our three after this.

It's pretty beating. What the fact they've had before? I'll be able to fill the violin with a lot of people. Nick, my question off me.

USOB. That was going to be my last question. We'll come back to it. Yeah, talk.

You talk. Have you prepared for that? I don't prepare for that. I don't prepare for that.

I don't prepare for things. All right. I was dealing with them. I was dealing with them.

What size shape they come in? I smash it. I was halfway to the DARREN market. We were in those big massive boots that Adam Booth wore when David Hayforth valued.

If you remember, I was halfway to the two wearing those downstairs. He's got a bad self. He's also quite tall though. He's a little bit of knowledge here inside of his hair.

All right. I've never seen a retiree fight look as good as him. I have to say. Because there's a little word done.

He does look well. He does look like you're team. You've obviously boxed a few times for like pro titles like WBC International. Obviously the Commonwealth against Nemered Thomas.

Is that still an ambition for you to win titles or is it more focused on money? I like to win a belt. It'd be lovely when it took me ten hours. And that really slowly money's most important at this point.

I'm 27 years old. I sit down and says I've got two dreams in my life. One sort of nice wife and kids. You know that's a lot of them.

Also, I'm also like to be a professional boxing trainer and manager. Who doesn't take your percentage of his fighters unless they become pretty champagne or a book. That is my second dream. I would just train the money's back down here.

Yeah. I would love to be in the finance position where I don't have to take anything off of them unless they become really successful. And you can afford to give me a very low percentage of what they make. So that's the dream.

That sounds fair. That sounds like a... Just a little while. You don't have any out of it.

And I would love to give back in the time a little way to a few little fights. That's why my job is. I get money's going to train in that hotel and I do find myself. That's just about to say you've already started at 27.

You've already started to think about coming to training yourself. Yeah, because I've got a great boxing brain. I'm just riding up. I don't want to ride up.

Very lazy. I can do it. I can go to the most of the time. Going back in time a little bit.

What was the... Because you've said yourself that perhaps you didn't take it seriously boxing. Was there a moment when perhaps the light bulb went off and you thought, right, I'm really going to dedicate myself to this? Well, not really because I lost a little mind.

I think they lost these fights. I can't even be there. Then I was trying to make my money train for that. Should have learnt from that.

I didn't... I watched it on the other side of the window. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know what I was doing.

I didn't know what I was doing. And then I watched the knee bone. I never trained for that. Then I broke my mind.

I never trained for that. So really, I've got 22 fights. I lost 4, 0, 0, 0, and didn't live on the lessons. It was only after the 1-5, which was a window.

I think my health hit could have been in jeopardy. I keep fighting like that. You can't fight like that. You can't.

I want to live a... Not a long life, but like a medium length of life. I don't want to be sure to get about 70 out of the hour. So I thought I'd start getting less and start training.

I'd be a little bit fit. Because if you go through those looks, I'd be able to get an angel 24-0 fit. Make downing. Downing...

Downing... Downing... Just keep coming down. I mean, downing.

He's a world champion. So he says, do it. It was just a semi-fellen-off, so we couldn't ring there. To wait, me up for the gym.

He said, I need to ring it half an hour. So then, I had to go to bed about 3-4 in the morning. Semi-fellen-off, and then ring up. I've never been able to make a normal single-night.

I don't know what's better. But we don't know. I can't do that. So...

That's different. Obviously, we were talking about titles earlier on, and you are interested in them. This weekend, it's... Then you do War Against, uh, Nathan Gorman.

Any sort of prediction for that? Not really. Some BT. No, I like BT over the mushroom.

I think it's a cracking fight. If you enjoy some Jennings in a very good fight as well. I think it's a very, I think, William's... Then William's in a special fight, so he'll need to resist.

Will the photo, actually? Probably a wee later with the other two. It's the big one. Yes, it is.

Follum and brass. Yes. White Re-vast. This is Orange Bilker.

Go Field Aziz. Yeah, Pobble and Smith. Coli TBA. That's right, it's going off.

But, uh, no. I hope Nathan's a very good friend, man. But the War Against, well, he's under 8. The War Against, well he's under 8.

The War Against, well he's under 8. The War Against, well he's under 8. Probably under 8. A little bit of a car.

And three back. Yes, it's a cracking fight. You got a prediction for that, Scott? I think DeBois sparks Coli.

Who about six? Exactly what I've done for Boxing Month, please. Is that any prediction I've done for them? I'll go on when I'm pointing to them.

What about White and Re-vast? I think it's a very hard fight. It's not a fight. I would be taking off the almighty position.

It's a brave choice. I think Re-vast can really fight. He's got a good take off the almighty. I think it's a fight.

So, the dangerous fight, if he wins this one. Surely says we'll attack the whole time. But we've said that before. So, we'll have to see what happens.

Is that the musical fan? I don't know why it's a favourite. He's a big man. Re-vast can fight.

Definitely a good fight. And we'll go back to my another island question now. So, you've done a big station. You've done a podcast.

Not violent, interesting. It clearly does. Well, you know, with price beats, we have. Probably the best option, really.

Yeah. I think I'll have to clean up. I think I'll have to clean up. Obviously, Tommy Fiori's doing it and he doesn't really have any.

How do you feel about Boxers trying to do that to make sure he makes it? I think it's fantastic. I don't think Tango will have the boxing in his own one. I don't think he will.

But I think his wearer's talking about looking me. I know for a fight to eat for you, Danny. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. You're better than me.

I only remind my life to be modest as well. I'm more modest than him as well. Yeah. So, that's three for three.

Yeah. So, no, go on. If I don't want to, I'm going to get me pro-J, then I'll end up. So, you can't fight for tough.

It's illegal. How was it? He's 18 on the next series. Come to the game.

So, we're going to shut down here. Poppy's cherry. If he doesn't start to improve in the gym, I told him, you want to love Ireland and something. That's it.

Alright, Scott.

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