EPISODE · Jan 27, 2024 · 36 MIN
Episode 122: Profit First For Therapists: Making Money Work [featuring Julie Herres]
from All Things Private Practice Podcast
In this episode, Patrick is joined by special guest Julie Herres, CEO of GreenOak Accounting, specifically designed for therapists and counselors in private practice. They talk about some of the big questions and concerns that private practice owners face with taxes, finances, and ensuring that they see a profit at the end of the year.You may have been told you don’t become a therapist to make money, but setting up your business to earn it is an important part of sustaining yourself so that you can help others.Some Key Takeaways:Financial Insecurity in Private Practice: Many therapists and counselors struggle with feeling guilty about making money in the mental health field, which can lead to undercharging for services and not paying themselves a fair wage. This episode addresses the importance of therapists being able to make a good living and feel comfortable with their finances, offering practical tips and advice on aligning business revenue with personal financial needs.Lack of Financial Knowledge: Private practice owners may feel overwhelmed by the complexities of managing their finances, including filing taxes and making important financial decisions for their practice. The podcast episode discusses the significance of working with a professional team, such as a tax professional, to prevent costly mistakes and ensure the sustainability of the business.Pricing and Fee Setting Challenges: Many practice owners may struggle with determining their rates and setting fees for services due to comparing themselves to others or feeling pressured to conform to standard market rates. This episode advocates for setting rates based on individual financial needs and lifestyle goals, emphasizing the importance of staying true to oneself and making business decisions that align with personal goals.More about Julie:Julie Herres is the founder and CEO of GreenOak Accounting, a firm that exclusively serves therapists, psychologists, and counselors in private practice across the United States. Over the years, Julie and her team have worked with hundreds of private practice owners and developed serious knowledge about what makes a practice financially successful. GreenOak’s goal is to help practice owners feel comfortable with the financial side of their businesses and have profitable practices. Some of the firm’s biggest success stories were achieved through implementing Profit First.Julie is an accountant and an enrolled agent (EA). She is also a speaker, author of Profit First for Therapists, and the host of the Therapy for Your Money podcast. Check out Julie's new course on hiring clinicians, where she shares all of her knowledge on evaluating what you can afford, as well as includes templates and calculators. greenoakaccounting.com/compensationFind Julie on social media using: @julie.herres and @greenoakacct or check out her Facebook: facebook.com/greenoakacct Join the free Profit First for Therapists FB group: facebook.com/groups/1274972945933485Julie, an accountant and enrolled agent, is the author of "Profit First For Therapists" greenoakaccounting.com/compensation-strategies–––––––––––––––––––––🎙️Listen to more episodes of the All Things Private Practice Podcast🎙️Spotify🎙️Apple🎙️YouTube Music▶️ YouTube✈️ Learn about Retreats🗨️ Join the free Empowered Escape FB Community–––––––––––––––––––––Thanks to Our Sponsors: The Receptionist for iPad!✨ The Receptionist for iPadThanks to The Receptionist for iPad for sponsoring this episode.The Receptionist for iPad is a HIPAA-ready digital check-in system that eliminates the need to walk back and forth from your office to the waiting room to see if your next appointment has arrived. Clients or patients can check in for their appointments, and you'll be immediately notified by text, email, or your preferred channel. Break free from interruptions and make the most of your time, because it is valuable. Start a free 14-day trial of the Receptionist for iPad by going to thereceptionist.com/privatepractice. Make sure to start your trial with that link to get your first month free if you decide to sign up.Free Gifts for Our Listeners✨ Free Podcasting WorkbookGet a practical podcasting workbook for therapists considering starting a podcast, created by Patrick Casale, host of the podcasts All Things Private Practice and Divergent Conversations.You'll get a practical structure for therapists who want to start a podcast but don’t want to rush, perform, or build something they can’t sustain.Grab your free copy of the Podcasting Workbook: atppod.com/free-podcasting-workbook✨ Move Beyond Private Practice As A Neurodivergent EntrepreneurMove Beyond Private Practice As A Neurodivergent Entrepreneur is a FREE 5-part mini-course designed for therapists who want sustainable financial independence beyond one-on-one work.Access your free mini-course here: atppod.com/move-beyond-private-practice-freeMentioned in this episode:The Receptionist for iPad The Receptionist for iPad is a HIPAA-ready digital check-in system that eliminates the need to walk back and forth from your office to the waiting room to see if your next appointment has arrived. Clients or patients can check in for their appointments, and you'll be immediately notified by text, email, or your preferred channel. Break free from interruptions and make the most of your time, because it is valuable. Start a free 14-day trial of the Receptionist for iPad by going to https://thereceptionist.com/privatepractice. Make sure to start your trial with that link to get your first month free if you decide to sign up.
What this episode covers
In this episode, Patrick is joined by special guest Julie Herres, CEO of GreenOak Accounting, specifically designed for therapists and counselors in private practice. Some Key Takeaways: 1. Financial Insecurity in Private Practice: Many therapists and counselors struggle with feeling guilty about making money in the mental health field, which can lead to undercharging for services and not paying themselves a fair wage. This episode addresses the importance of therapists being able to make a good living and feel comfortable with their finances, offering practical tips and advice on aligning business revenue with personal financial needs. 2. Lack of Financial Knowledge: Private practice owners may feel overwhelmed by the complexities of managing their finances, including filing taxes and making important financial decisions for their practice. The podcast episode discusses the significance of working with a professional team, such as a tax professional, to prevent costly mistakes and ensure the sustainability of the business. 3. Pricing and Fee Setting Challenges: Many practice owners may struggle with determining their rates and setting fees for services due to comparing themselves to others or feeling pressured to conform to standard market rates. This episode advocates for setting rates based on individual financial needs and lifestyle goals, emphasizing the importance of staying true to oneself and making business decisions that align with personal goals. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Julie, an accountant and enrolled agent, is the author of "Profit First For Therapists" https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/compensation-strategies ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– 🎙️Listen to more episodes of the All Things Private Practice Podcast 🎙️Spotify 🎙️Apple 🎙️YouTube Music ▶️ YouTube ✈️ Learn about Retreats 🗨️ Join the free Empowered Escape FB Community 🗨️ Join the free All Things Private Practice FB Community ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Thanks to Our Sponsors: Alma, Therapy Notes, & The Receptionist for iPad ✨ Alma: I want to thank Alma for sponsoring this episode. Alma makes it easy and financially rewarding to accept insurance. When you join their insurance program, you can get credentialed within 45 days and access enhanced reimbursement rates with major payers. They also handle all of your paperwork from eligibility checks to claim submissions, and they guarantee payment within two weeks of each appointment. You can also attract clients who are the right fit for your practice with a free profile in Alma's searchable directory. Additionally, Alma offers time-saving tools and administrative support, so you can spend less time on paperwork and more time delivering great care to your clients. Get your first month free with Alma by visiting helloalma.com/ATPP. ✨Therapy Notes: I want to thank Therapy Notes for sponsoring this episode. TherapyNotes™ is a complete practice management system with everything you need to manage patient records, schedule appointments, meet with patients remotely, create rich documentation, and bill insurance, right at your fingertips. Their streamlined software is accessible wherever and whenever you need it. Go to therapynotes.com and get 2 free months when you use code ATPP. ✨ The Receptionist for iPad: I want to thank The Receptionist for iPad for sponsoring this episode. The Receptionist offers an iPad list check-in option where clients can scan a QR code to check in, which negates the need for you to buy an iPad and stand. Go to thereceptionist.com/privatepractice and sign up for a free 14-day trial. When you do, you'll get your first month free. And don't forget to ask about our iPad list check-in option.
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