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EPISODE · Nov 16, 2025 · 53 MIN

Episode 17: What's Louder Than A Bomb?

from Stayed On Freedom · host Alabama African American Civil Rights Heritage Sites Consortium

In this episode, we sit down with Mick Petts, son of Welsh stained-glass artist John Petts, to explore the story and significance of the Wales Window at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. The conversation takes us through how the 1963 bombing of the church, which killed four young girls, spurred a global response — particularly from Wales — and how John Petts designed the window as both a tribute and a gesture of solidarity. We dig into the window’s symbolic imagery (a Black Christ figure, arms outstretched, pushing away hatred while offering compassion) and hear from Mick about the artistic process, his father’s intentions, and the legacy the window carries in the ongoing struggle for racial justice.Made possible with the support of the 1772 Foundation.The Alabama African American Civil Rights Heritage Sites Consortium “Stayed On Freedom” podcast engages foot soldiers, leaders, scholars and ‘extraordinary ordinary’ people who are “stayed on freedom.” We remember to remember how the history and continuing legacy of the Black freedom movement and our Civil Rights Heritage Sites have transformed communities and changed the world!The views and opinions expressed are those of the podcast hosts, guests and participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Alabama African American Civil Rights Heritage Sites Consortium.GIVE TODAY!⁠https://secure.qgiv.com/for/aaacrhsc/Explore the podcast

In this episode, we sit down with Mick Petts, son of Welsh stained-glass artist John Petts, to explore the story and significance of the Wales Window at 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. The conversation takes us through how the 1963 bombing of the church, which killed four young girls, spurred a global response — particularly from Wales — and how John Petts designed the window as both a tribute and a gesture of solidarity. We dig into the window’s symbolic imagery (a Black Christ figure, arms outstretched, pushing away hatred while offering compassion) and hear from Mick about the artistic process, his father’s intentions, and the legacy the window carries in the ongoing struggle for racial justice.Made possible with the support of the 1772 Foundation.The Alabama African American Civil Rights Heritage Sites Consortium “Stayed On Freedom” podcast engages foot soldiers, leaders, scholars and ‘extraordinary ordinary’ people who are “stayed on freedom.” We remember to remember how the history and continuing legacy of the Black freedom movement and our Civil Rights Heritage Sites have transformed communities and changed the world!The views and opinions expressed are those of the podcast hosts, guests and participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Alabama African American Civil Rights Heritage Sites Consortium.GIVE TODAY!⁠https://secure.qgiv.com/for/aaacrhsc/Explore the podcast

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