Episode 18 – Jenny Campbell, Chief Executive of the Resilience Dynamic, speaks to us about resilience in Leadership and systemic resilience.

In this compelling episode we speak to Jenny Campbell, chief executive of the Resilience Dynamic, who explores the importance of resilience in modern organisations. Drawing from her extensive research, Jenny Campbell challenges traditional productivity models by introducing the 65/35 rule – suggesting that 65% focused work and 35% intentional unfocused time creates optimal performance. She emphasizes the need for psychological safety, collective attention, and purpose-driven leadership, particularly in a world experiencing increasing complexity and uncertainty. Jenny examines how organisations often prioritise targets over human potential, highlighting the disconnect between leadership experiences and employee well-being. Her insights reveal that true resilience isn’t about constant doing, but about creating space for systemic thinking, listening, and adaptive capacity. With a particular focus on emerging generations like Gen Z and Gen Alpha, she calls for a more holistic approach to workplace culture that recognises the whole person and creates meaningful, supportive environments that allow individuals and teams to thrive. Disclaimer Emily & Johnny own the copyright in and to all content in and transcripts of the Awakening Conscious Leadership podcasts, with all rights reserved, as well as their right of publicity. All opinions expressed by the Podcast Guests & Participants are solely their current opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Emily & Johnny. The Podcast Guest and Participant opinions are based upon information they consider reliable, but neither Emily, Johnny nor the companies with which such guests & participants are affiliated, warrant its completeness or accuracy, and it should not be relied upon as such. Nothing in the Awakening Conscious Leadership podcast constitutes advice on which you should rely. It is provided for general information purposes only. No one is authorized to copy any portion of the podcast content or use Emily’s or Johnny’s name, image or likeness for any commercial purpose or use, including without limitation inclusion in any books, e-books, book summaries or synopses, or on a commercial website or social media site (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.) that offers or promotes your or another’s products or services.