Episode 27 - It's OK to have "childish" hobbies

Is it immature for adults to love fantasy, anime, video games, or tabletop games—or is that a shallow view of maturity? In this episode of the Circle Dwellers podcast, Matt and Tim Krell respond directly to Matt Walsh’s claim that grown men should abandon “childish” hobbies like Warhammer, Star Wars, or video games and pursue only “serious” adult interests. Drawing from C.S. Lewis’s famous line—“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up”—the brothers explain why Christianity affirms imagination, storytelling, play, and creative hobbies. They unpack the difference between being childlike and childish, why hobbies do not define your identity, and how art and fantasy can point us toward truth, beauty, and God. If you’ve ever felt shamed for liking “geeky” hobbies or wondered whether Christians should feel guilty for enjoying games, this thoughtful conversation offers a freeing, biblical perspective—and a gentle rebuttal to Matt Walsh.