You're now listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Experience with Chico, Simon, Kumar, and your host, Matt Floyd. Welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Experience. My name is Matt Floyd, joined as always by Kumar. Welcome to the party.
And Simon. Hello. You're such a piece of garbage. Well, we do hear is very simple.
The three of us have listened to every episode of the Joe Rogan Experience this week. We're going to rate each episode as well as the week on a scale of one to five Jamie Vernon's. We're then going to talk about each guest. The talk points give our opinions of this that in the next.
Simon's favorite part. Kumar. I don't think we have any new patrons. I don't know if you guys missed them last week.
It's going to be back. I didn't call them. I got them. I got them.
One more time flowers for Alan. I was all the patrons have joined and I don't know what to say about you guys that don't join. Maybe they don't understand sweeps. I'm better than that.
We should explain sweeps, I think. Like and subscribe. Leave a comment. If you don't know what sweeps is.
Every October. I guess my other problem is it was to supplement the sober October, which we used to do where we'd be doing this. Right. We deserved extra because we had to endure the sober October.
That makes sense. Which is a real demonstration of lack of conviction. I mean, I'll be at Joe's gun fully sober now. And like all the COVID regulations, it just doesn't go back once they take it.
They don't. They don't want to do long. So sweeps continues. We should probably wish ourselves a happy seven year.
October 19th. October 17th. Really? It's been seven years.
Seven years. 25 and 45. Seven years. Yeah.
That's how long POTS been legal. That was when we reported the first. I just dawned on me right now. I knew it was coming up.
But I totally forgotten. Well, we're committed like that. Congratulations to us. I can't think of anything else I've done for seven years.
Thank you. Ever what? I've been far and ever longer than sweeps. Oh, yeah.
I've been with Mary Lauren and seven years. Sure. Too much for too little. Yeah.
I just found out the other day, how long Keef and his girlfriend had been together. She's like, this is fucking bonkers. This was never a place for that. We're 10 years, eh?
It was 14 for that. My team. Dog years. Oh, that's horrible.
Oh, yeah. It's been a trip. Luckily, we have our friends. Listen.
And it's brutal to actually be able to. I mean, we've grown. This is just a humble show in Matt's basement. It's a humble show in Matt's basement.
But we got a baby. It's not for nothing. That's very true. We did add a dog too.
We didn't have Chico when we started. Really? Yeah. Chico came in.
We've had in December, we will have had Chico for seven years. Wow. Time is just a fucking thing that ticks for. Well, I was comedy.
It's just a little crack and I've been around for five years. That makes sense. Okay. No, I thought I think it was the last year.
I think my point would be the two years of the pandemic. Yes. Three years. It totally fucked up time.
Oh, I agree with that. I can't say how. Yeah. No, no, you don't have to say how.
I agree. 100% something happened. But I am a firm believer now that in this whole CERN. Time.
Yeah. Yeah. And that's probably where all the like it was. Yeah.
And now it's what Mandela did. Yeah, you got all that shit happened. And it's just and that would totally make sense because like there's such minor things. It wasn't a massive time or a dimension jump.
According to what I always talk about it being. It's a small little. That are very close together varying degrees of weirdness. We just switched to the next slide and it's close, but a little more weird.
And this one we get fucking Trump and we get fucking you on Trump or you on Musk. But it's every single thing is like. This every single thing is like every dimension is a slide. Whatever decision.
Maybe within every dimension is a slides within slides. You just have a kid's place. All right. Sorry about that.
No worries. Simon. Thank you for listening. We love you.
Just in case we forget. Let's talk about. Hold on. Okay.
Sure. He was going to go over the guests. We were going to read. Let's talk about Joe's new sponsor.
Oh, yeah. I mean, we'll get to that. It's not going to come up. Joe for last week until I fell ill to the COVID.
What's it called? No. Simon perplexity will come up. I will bring up.
Oh, wow. Yeah. I got to say AI is so much more into the mix than this wave. Do you know what I mean?
No. We're not. We're not praising. We're talking about AI is coming and going to be evolved in everything it is.
Oh, yeah. No, but this is about how Joe is just blatantly plugging his new his agent. Yes. Yes.
It's probably like the CIA. Even the perplexity as Chad GPT as many came to him and said, Jamie's doing this. Would you like to use? What does GPT stand for?
End of the world. General prompt. Oh, you were there. Yeah.
Then I lost it. We're not everyone can do it. Now you can start your whole thing. Okay.
Yeah. 2393. Brian Callan back in the house. Not controversial.
I thought he wasn't going to be asked back after their little tiff on the. No, Joe said we're friends. That's how we talk. I get on.
He'd been on 2394. One of the good billionaires. 2394 Palmer. Lucky.
I think it's a layer. Okay. Followed by 2395. The Whitney web of National Geographic.
Maryana. Zeller. And then to everyone's surprise on 2396. Angie Shells dropped on a Saturday to address a bunch of issues that were going on.
And obviously it's probably just in town. But shaved. Shaded. Bosses were driven.
With your own. GPT stands for generative pre-trained transformer. Not even close. Not even close.
Did I get general right now? You had me at prompt. I'll give the week a three. But not for the reasons you might think.
Three. I give it a zero. A zero. That's what my first reaction was to do that.
And we'll get to why. What was the first episode? It was Brian Kelly. And the second episode was.
Oh, lucky Palmer. Oh, and then the third episode. Maryana Van Zeller. Maryana.
And then Shells. Oh my God. I can't give it a zero. Give it a one.
Let's get to two. Down the line. So solid two. And then he loses a point because where somebody on to knock out Epstein.
So it's a one. There you go. Pick more fired up. 2394.
Palmer. Lucky. I feel. Joe is a constant like sloppy seconds guy.
He's just in the training room. Everyone else can see. Palmer did that 60 minutes. As well.
Can I just say something? Can I just say something like we're out of place where. And I don't know if Joe realizes it. Because he might just be that useful idiot.
Like maybe it's just because I'm seeing things differently now. But this is an arms dealer. Yeah. Okay.
Sure. What he's doing though. This whole like. Oh, this guy made Oculus.
It's like, yeah, he did. You're right. But now he is. I don't know.
This just seemed gross. Oh, so this is a billionaire. You don't like as well. This guy is like the guy who's making wars happen.
Yeah, he just makes it seem fun. I think he says. He also makes cool toys. It's like.
But ultimately for their his country's best interest. We don't know that. Did he say that? Who knows the fuck he's selling arms to?
The arms are going to Israel. They may be. It's a good point. I mean, listen.
Face value. Just listening to what he was saying. Like, I get it. It all made sense.
Everything he was saying. Like, oh, we're going to make it so that you can make this in any factory. But just stop for a second. Just back up and think about like what Joe Rogan has become.
This is Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly. Like, just kidding. This is not an anti-war approach. You're saying.
This is a hundred percent. Like Joe having on the military industrial complex and him preparing everyone. Like, war is going to be fun. You're going to have a headset and you and your friends.
He said at one point, your buddy, your friends are there and they're going to be shooting another guy too. And it's like, dude, I don't know. It's still war. He wants all this to end wars.
No, I didn't know that. But that's the evil of it. But it's also funny because Trump people are like, Trump has ended all these wars. It's like, yeah, okay.
Sure. I guess. But he also changed the name of Department of Defense to the Department of War. And I don't know.
They don't seem like they are anti-war at all. But maybe that's just me. So the frustration is, it is inevitable or seems inevitable that there's going to be a war with China. There will not be a war with China.
War just has to happen. And because this guy, you know what I mean? There is a way though. Like, most times I would agree there wouldn't be.
There's this like loophole that remains for America to have the moral high ground to actually go to war with China. Maybe stupid too. The guy said it. They have that fucking bomb.
Game over. I just don't. I think the US knows that they can't go to war with China. It'll end quickly because China controls the whole flow of goods, all the guns, all the parts.
One of the things I heard was that, and take this for what it is, because I heard it through one of my vines, that the whole drone thing in New Jersey, those were Chinese drones. And pretty much what it was, was like they were showing off their anti-gravidial capabilities and saying, like, checkmate bitch. And that's why America could never come out and tell you what it was, because they know that they had to shut the fuck up about it, because they know they were beat. And China's advantage is, in fact, their one government system.
Yeah. They can build a trade station faster. They can get stuff done faster. They can build, like he was talking about procurement and the red tape, new weapons and whatnot.
What was that? Yeah, Andrew, shall say, in any event. Go on. War is going to happen.
What's happening? It's happening. Yeah. And this guy would be working for China otherwise.
I don't care really what this guy does. Like I do, but I also don't like, I didn't sign up to listen to billionaire, let alone billionaire arms dealers, give me their like viewpoint on whatever the fuck, like, when did this be, he's right? This is like, just if you're the right demographic for Joe, it doesn't fucking matter that you're like the guy who should be the enemy to him. Yeah.
This is not, listen, 10 years ago, you absolutely never would have gotten this guy on Joe. If he had just, if he was just the inventor of Oculus, I'm fine with him coming on, I understand completely. I don't know. This, again, Joe has at this point a list of billionaire assholes that he has on all the time.
And it's the same reason why you now are like, I think we should get rid of regulation altogether. It's because slowly your brain, because of Joe has this like, yeah, you know what, billionaires are right and they should make more money because they actually are the ones making all the jobs and everything. And it's like, dude, fuck these guys. Fuck this guy.
If Joe offered a pushback question, like, do you give it to your money? Do you dodge taxes or something like that? But if you become a billionaire at 19, he sort of have his mind said that you're right. Then anything is possible.
This guy's, if he was up to no good, would he not want to be interviewed at all? No, I think these guys want to show off. Otherwise you'd never know. I had no idea who the fuck Lucky Palmer was.
I don't know. This guy looks like a South Park character. Oh my God. Is it like Angie Schull said?
What? Go on. He said that there's a guy named Carlos Slim that said some guys know how to have a million dollars. Some guys are new to a million dollars.
The guys who knew a million dollars sometimes have to do something because they want people to know who they are. Yeah. I mean, again, like I. This guy has no sorry, man.
No, I was going to say, come on. I know you're going to say like, you know, we're all different than this guy for sure. I never was even close to inventing Oculus when I was 19, but like, most 19 year olds when they get a billion dollars aren't automatically like, imagine if I started selling arms to governments. I don't know.
And tell me. This isn't like the perfect. This is, you're going to look, we're going to look back on this 20 years from now and see that this was like another CIA gave him Oculus gets him started, creates this arms dealer like, but doesn't this feel like Top Gun, come on where it's like, we can't get enough people in the army right now. Maybe we just get this guy, this new arms, this young guy, this guy feels like he saw stuff like what was that movie, load survivor or Black Hawk down or just some of these war movies where the guys if technology helped them when he was 16, he would have seen these movies.
So that I'm just looking at this guy's motivation because he doesn't seem like a bad guy. That's my problem. All billionaires are bad guys. I thought we were going to come in and this is one of the good guys.
I feel like all billionaires are bad guys and just to make that much money, I think you're like swimming with sharks and you're not going to get to that level if you're not a predatory fish. Let's use Joe Rogan as the perfect example. Okay. Joe signs his first big massive deal, not to say he wasn't rich before that, but he gets like the bag.
We think it was like $250 million, right? And then what happens? He immediately gets invited to Peter Thiel's house for lunch. Like it's goes to what Simon's saying, like you're swimming with the sharks, like the second you hit sort of this realm of like this echelon, all of a sudden it's like, oh well, you should probably go have a bunch of Peter Thiel's and like, just so we can get it.
Like you just got a tour of the SpaceX factory, you know, with your buddy Elon Musk, like fuck off. Just fuck right off. Well, again, it's funny because Joe is like CNN is just a propaganda wing at this point. It's like, dude, you two are your own propaganda wing.
You just feel like because you're independent, it's not propaganda, but like again, Joe would not have had this guy. They would have been a joke for Joe to have this guy on 10 years ago. No, I would argue that this guy is on the cutting edge. I mean, it wasn't just you know, you know, he was someone talking to animals.
He was not what other people doing that was a competition where they were where all the people were competing to do like the craziest thing he wanted to do, but he wanted to look for aliens once he retired from what he was going to be when you're a billionaire, you don't you're already retired. Do you know what I mean? I know it's funny. If you don't have to do anything you don't want to.
Maybe this is the, you know, his opus oculus offering and then he's out in his copper coat. Yeah, in his copper coat, exactly, trying to convince us that copper coats are fucking cool. If you want a Faraday cage in your jacket, just make the pocket copper. Why do you have to have the whole fucking suit be copper?
Great idea. Great idea. Yeah, you just make the pocket. The Faraday pocket.
Okay, we're out. Even better car. It's a removable pocket. So it's a wallet?
Well, sure. But like the point is it fits most pockets, right? So you just, you don't need to buy one pair of pants. That's the idea.
It's like any pair of pants you wear. You just slide the pocket in. That's actually not a bad idea. You make removable pockets that are like fuzzy.
So your jeans can have like nice soft pockets instead of. I mean, the problem at this point is like why carry a phone around if you're like, you know, what I mean? If you're what? Well, if you're worried about having a Faraday cage in your pocket, what are you doing with a cell phone?
Yeah. Yeah. They're following privacy. Yeah.
Also, I've said some unfavorable things about Israel. I should probably never have another electronic near my crock or dick ever again. Well, definitely don't buy a pager. Like drug game.
I just want to put it in the window. That's part of history. Well, everything's part. No, but it's everything that's happened up till now.
They sold them pagers overnight. Like it's a year in advance. Yeah, it wasn't a movie. This all wrote.
Come on. If I saw that in a movie, I would say this is the most far fetched. This is too much. Never seen.
No way. It is what happened. Yeah. That's props, but it's the wrong side.
They did it. And it's also the wrong side. I did it. I'm not saying that.
Nope. I'm just saying it's the idea is on October 7th. How much started a war? Yeah.
Well, yeah. Yeah. Before. No, the pagers.
Oh, you're saying they sent them the pagers before. I never hold on. Was that always a thing we're going to do? Or if they get out of control?
Does that timeline line up? Well, it's done before. But before. They had been that's again because they've been doing a gear, right?
It was precautionary. But they're just like, well, I was sort of fuck with you. Anyways, that's where the whole thing's a jumble. That's all I say.
And I'm not saying inside. But again, there is nobody. This guy's position. Who you guys would like?
Well, it would be better at least is if a billionaire came on and he had zero relationships with weapons building, but both Joe's guys who have come on, well, I guess, um, Elon and. Andreessen. Oh, and Andreessen. They all have like this military connection.
Do it again. Give us a billionaire who's on there for being a billionaire for fighting. I believe this guy was more of a leftist billionaire. I don't care what side of the aisle he's on.
Okay. And I don't know if you can call yourself a leftist billionaire if you own a weapons factory. Like, come on. Here's my thing.
Like left this point of view is supposed to be against war. I'll say it again. Come on. If this guy had come on and was like, I created Oculus at 19 and I'm still working to make, like, better VR.
Yeah, sure. Whatever. And what I do in my spare time is I get sloppy toppy from a bunch of beautiful women. Oh, I can relate to this guy.
This guy is the every man. This is what I would do. This is what everyone would do. Like he's also a Christian.
But I know he care about the religious. No, but this is everybody who goes on Joe is Christian. I can't even remember the last Jew we had on. Interesting.
He probably read that article that I read about how all the- And everybody makes sure to drop it. Like, even Shulls today, not to jump ahead, but like, had to tell us about his church experience. This is a right-wing Christian show. Slightly right.
It's like a circle square. I wonder. Do you remember Circle Square? Yes.
The game show? No, no, no. It was a Sunday morning church show with kids on it. They used to have these things called the Circle Square Ranches, which were like real life things.
Like we had them in a version of them in Ontario, even, where it was like a camp that you could go stay at. And it was like a church thing. Do you think the- I mean, someone else talked about it, but it's a couple episodes nostalgia. This sort of thing that you look at, because you don't realize nostalgia as much.
I guess you do. You just read nostalgia there. Okay. Do you remember Circle Square?
Of course. We only have four channels. And Sunday mornings. Like I was always up early.
I would wake up at like 5.36 o'clock. And it was the only thing on Circle Square. Circle Square. Circle Square.
And it was so bad. They would like these kids who would act out these scenes to teach you a lesson. But just think of like the worst production value on this. Now that I think about it, it's so like Epstein.
They were on this like ranch. It was a Canadian show. It was a Canadian show. I don't know.
I feel like it was American, but. No, no, no. That was around here. It was around here.
Because we had certain branches. There were camps. Maybe. There were multiple ones.
I think this is what I mean. It sounds like a cult. It's sounding that way. Yeah.
Sounds like you're regressing to talking about it. Well, you were involved by being subjugated to the screen. Yeah. And they'd all sit around and have a problem.
And so say, you know, that reminds me of a song, Lord. They saw on their faces and they looked so smiley. But on the other hand, as I've said ad nauseam, we had, you can't do that on television. Yeah.
Which is ground zero for trash television. Like, I can't. Like I said. It's my point being heard.
Like from Nickelodeon, all this stuff. Like I would say married with children. Was that a show? Yes.
No, it's Mandela. It never happened. But did that trash. Roseanne, I mean we had the first show.
When the kids were trashy, they are right now. I'm not sure we're on the same page. So you can't do that on television. It was like the linchpin for our movement in adocracy, especially with entertainment.
It's like you can't do that on television. Direct line to Jerry Springer. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what we're saying.
Anyway, luck or luck. This guy. Yeah. I don't know.
We've trashed them a lot now. So come on, give us some points of some interesting things this guy talked about. Yeah, sure. Well, again, the intelligence of animals.
I mean, it just feels like what he said. He want to do is go to any paranormal stuff. If that is his intention and he's going to write off the sunset, you guys are already having enough to do that. But maybe we don't know what sunset money is these days.
We could talk to animals and they all were just so salty. You're ruining this. Well, they probably would. Imagine if you lived in the ocean, like the whales and the dolphins must fucking hate us.
Oh, yeah. But that's what I was going to say. Their language, which we can understand that idea that and I think they did explore this in that Star Trek movie where they have to save the whales. Is that like the whales, they've been around so long that they know about the aliens more than we know about the aliens, whether they call them the same things we do.
But it's a cool idea. You know, so if we could talk to the whales, maybe they could explain our past to us. Maybe they're talking in the alien language. Like if you think they're underwater, maybe they're talking in the alien language.
Maybe that's the language. So there's this thing called the boogosphere. Have you heard about it? Is this thing moving around the ocean?
Oh, this is a, they found this boogosphere. It's this sphere that has like this crazy writing on it and they finally dated it and it dates back like 12,000 years, but it's made of metals that like can't be found on earth and they used AI. And so hold on, I'll come back to the boogosphere, but they were explaining, they were explaining like how quantum computing works, giving an example of it, where like imagine you're looking for a grain of sand on a beach. The way it worked before quantum computing was that whatever the machine was, the computer would like go through looking at every single grain of sand until it found the grain of sand it was looking for.
But quantum computing becomes the beach and then just knows instantly what's great. Yeah, like it's so far beyond it's like a billion compared to a million, you know. Anyways, back to this boogosphere. So they decoded the boogosphere using quantum computing or whatever.
And it turns out that it's a proto Sanskrit language, the Sanskrit being the oldest. Record language, I guess, and this is before that, or some version of that. And it's all like a mathematical equations or something, because that's like the language of the universe. The language of the universe, exactly.
So there's, you know, what's that spiral that's everywhere? The Fibonacci sequence. Anyways, it's very interesting. I thought they had an interesting discussion about whether the AI will destroy us.
I think one way or another, it destroys us is just whether it becomes sentient to do it, or if just left to our own devices, it does it, you know? No, it turns into the Terminator. Well, let's say we were already on a path to destroy ourselves. AI is probably just going to speed that up.
This is what I'm saying. So one way or another, it destroys us, it's just whether it's us doing it with the aid of AI or AI becoming sentient, like Kumar's talking about and, you know, actually destroying us. Well, I sort of agree with you guys that when he's talking about making every shoe story, but it could be possible, it seems like getting pages ready, just in case someone decides to think so. But again, I think this guy thinks he's going into streamline, doge, if you will, the military industrial complex, which would free up money for Americans, other social programs and make it more efficient.
Yeah, I love the mental gymnastics these people do, like, don't worry, I'm doing all this good over here, but over here, I'm making the weapon that's going to negate all the good that could possibly be done. Like, it seems odd too. Think about it. It seems odd that, like, you're 19, you've sold your company for multiple billions of dollars, and now you want to go up against, like, I don't know, a conglomerate of people that'll just have you killed.
It doesn't seem like it seems odd to be, like, I'm going to uproot the military industrial complex. Anyone else picking up on that? Like, doesn't that seem like they might find this guy, like, suicided with two shotgun shells in his chest? I would love to know.
That'd be a great question. If you're being a disruptor. What sort of security? I mean, amongst a copper suit, and he pulled up into something like a suitcase and walks away.
I don't know. One thing he said and maybe he was just saying it to sound good was it's crazy how they've let the apps and they, you know, get more gold coins for two dollars and meant for kids and, like, off, off track slot worlds where there is no even payout where, at least, I guess he knows he can get a thing and that's just, it's so like the product, they'll pay actually for the product and, and, um, cars giving you features for, oh my God, the cars, that, like, why would you ever buy that car? There isn't a car I could, like, enough. It's so funny because there's enough people that get all the options anyways.
You have to be a real rich bitch, eh, to fucking, like, not even notice the, I'm pretty sure Tesla invented that for the car model, the whole, like, upgrade. They started it. Yeah. Well, that totally makes sense.
Well, keep in mind too, and Tesla's not, I'm not trying to point the finger deal in Moscow. If you want to be honest. I think price club and Costco are the reason that we have this world. Why?
Because they were the first, for a long time, dude, their stock was like so sought after because just think about it like this, year after year, on January 1st, you have a hundred million people giving you $65, $110, whatever it is, right? Yeah. So no matter what, you haven't even sold a fucking single, you haven't moved a single item yet and you've just taken this influx of cash. It's a one time payment.
And so every company after that, for, for years, because again, it's all about your stock in your shareholders. That's what subscribers. And so that's it. Power.
So every company after that said, okay, how do we get subscribers? How do we, and then Adobe? Adobe also is very guilty of this. Microsoft would do it all the time.
Well, no, Adobe's worse. Adobe has a product that you should be able to buy for $150. You should just be able to buy any one of them, name it, Photoshop, Lightroom, Final Cut. And you have to license it, right?
Or whatever. It's the one I have is 15 bucks a month. The whole suite is like a hundred bucks a month and Adobe just collects and they do it under the guise of like, well, you know, we update it all the time. And they do.
That's not wrong. Like Photoshop is much better now than it was, but the thing is this, let's say you had to buy a new Photoshop every five years. Let's say they made a new one every year and every five years you were like, there's enough shit. And a hundred times less than you did on the subscription to Photoshop every month.
But what about the shareholder? Yeah, exactly. They have ruined. Video games are ruined.
Clearly. No, that is. Or like as I've prophesied the GTA, whatever, six, that'll be the low key. Because that's where you're spending money inside the game, you know, you're making money the game and the growth of what they're saying of the social media within that game, the disaster already up here.
Actually, he was the one who said it may get to a point where, and it sort of is who talked about it. In case you and I set it, but with all the Sora stuff coming out, have you seen any of that? Yeah. And you got to get an invite code.
The Sora. Sora. One of many. Sora is like a video.
You can be in anything you want already. Your character could be movies or whatever. And some of those are really real. And some of it is just mine is drivel, but it is what TikTok's made of.
Dude, I saw this thing Bert Kreischer was doing, where they hook you up to this like hand glider and then you're virtually hand gliding, but it actually makes you weightless. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you feel like you're flying.
You're perpendicular. You're watching through the screen. It looked insane. Just the beginning.
I mean, that's weird. Stop that. I don't want to stop that. Well, no, because there's no risk of dying.
What are we doing here? Well, I'm just you get all the thrill without the risk. I love it. I that's exactly.
I want to go. Simon's doing flight simulator, but he's just taking a flight from New York to LA. Just sitting in coach uncomfortably. That's probably how people actually it is, my dad, because he deals with people's stress.
Yeah, they would have this. This was like many years back, but they had a program where you could go and it felt like you were going on a plane. That's interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. Virtual layout. Amazing. Oh, another sparrows.
I think more has to be looked into is what Chinese people do. The exact same thing as we do. I've been watching a lot of videos because he was saying they're you get a good car for $5,000. I had that conversation a couple weeks ago, and that combined with the idea.
If you've seen our videos, you've seen the dark factories. There's no lights because it's just robots, and I mean, there's a big deal here company just said they're taking a bunch of 3000 jobs from Canada, moving them to manufacture cars, but those jobs are on the chop a block as well as they're moving down there for 30 years of prosperity. So everyone knows it's going to happen. And it's trying to so far has so many more people, how they manage activities and interests and whatever you do.
It seems like we'll just play video games and how you play video games. There won't be any electricity. You won't be able to pay for the house. You won't be able to pay for your apartment to play video.
You live in your box. I've been watching some of the like poorer cities in China, not like the really like the farmer fields, you know what I mean, but like not these super modern ones, you know what they're like. Ottawa. Yeah.
They're like here. Yeah. Okay. All across the United States.
But it's dirty. You know what I mean? But you can get it still cleaner than here. You can get there on a 300 to club an hour train.
That's the biting that's the most. Well, we're getting one of those. So why don't the Mars point is we should have had one 20 years ago, like the the corridor between Montreal and Toronto is one of the busiest stretches of of road on earth and 20 years ago, they had those trains as my other if our country had had the type of economic boost that theirs did when America decided to use them as the maker of all things cheap for that country. We would have fast trains here already to give Rashi rice.
I do. Well, I'm going to I want to put my money on. Lucky Palmer. Okay.
I think he's one of the good guys. I think what you're up there. You can't even have the thoughts you guys are thinking of. What am I doing?
What is this? It's just not your your so far ahead because you've eliminated so many worries of everyday life. Well, this is what's interesting to me. Okay.
So he, this guy, you love so much. I don't love it. Just thought he was a good. He sold his first company, the Oculus Rift for how much money?
I think it was multiple billions. So like he would have been cool to stop there or to go and invest in stuff. But what did he do? I do.
I think of his peer pressure group. What did he just say? There's all these guys who are billionaires who are trying to do this, trying to start that. Like, and you're just in your queen.
You don't need to think about retiring. He could know where we are in our lives. You're not listening. He could have focused on longevity.
He could have focused on further AI to like that. What did he decide to focus on weapons? No, this is the fact with all these billionaires. I think all of them is to make a billion dollars, you have to have the best customer possible and the best customer possible is governments, governments or militaries or whatever.
I'm not saying he can't start governments. Well, I don't know. I just wonder. It's just weird that you're like, I think this guy's one of the good guys.
Yeah. His whole game is like, well, now I'm going to make weapons and weapons. But they all, all of them are evil. And none of them have any business on Jersey.
Or so that they're making an app that's getting money to your kid. Or they're making an app that extracts data from you. But we don't care about that. We had this guy on, but he can't have Whitney Webb on.
He doesn't care about exposing anything else. I, you know, I listen to this with like, ask this guy if he was ever on Epstein Island. Well, too young, but he's like, I would have been for sure. He wasn't too young.
He's like 23 years old. Oh, he now he's like 30 something. Okay. I still think.