Episode 4 | ENGAGEMENT: We're not afraid to get our hands dirty and our hearts broken

from This is The Refuge: 20th Anniversary Limited Podcast Series · host The Refuge

What does true engagement look like? Join Dr. Decibel in conversation with Katie Hinshaw and Savannah Smith, coordinators of Refuge Reads—a free community tutoring program serving students ages 5 to 65. Discover the transformative power of showing up fully: from advocating for an abused student, to teaching a grandmother to read her Bible, to the profound connection between literacy and justice. Katie and Savannah share what it means to step in rather than step back, building community through presence, courage, and authentic connection. This is engagement—hands dirty, hearts open, lives changed. Hosted by: Dr. Decibel Featuring: Katie Hinshaw and Savannah Smith, Refuge Reads Coordinators Produced by Dr. Decibel Productions Learn more at therefugeonline.org

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